Linux-Misc Digest #913, Volume #19 Tue, 20 Apr 99 20:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Re: PDF file sharing and updating (Hans Koch)
Re: Linux Book Recommendations please?? (Michael Powe)
Re: Linux Book Recommendations please?? (Michael Powe)
Re: Can Someone Please Explain To Me... (Kent Perrier)
Re: Newbie in need of help w/ gnome (Matthias Warkus)
Re: Zipslack (jik-)
problems w/ tar (Dave)
Re: Changing virtual window manager in RH5.2 (El Capitan)
fvwm ("MandM")
Re: problems with minicom? (thinks i am already online?) (Jukka Lahtinen)
Re: USB for linux??? ("Jerome PAYS")
Re: The Best Linux distribution? (was Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux) (William Burrow)
Re: Vfat and Redhat 5.2 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
gcc/g++ error - too many symbolic links (Brad Mills)
linux & win98: one hard drive or two? (Steve Beresh)
Re: Yggdrasil or Trinux Linux? (Stuart Lynne)
Re: Shift-PgUp (Mark Nielsen)
Re: cgi script (Mark Nielsen)
Re: Can't read JPEG files sometimes (Gavin McCord)
Re: Oracle8i for Linux: Anyone recieved their CD yet? ("Don Macpherson")
Re: Wanted: Linux replacements for VAJ and Quicken (Hans Koch)
Re: Applixware Office vs StarOffice (Jerry Lynn Kreps)
Re: Images (Paul)
Linux history (Jakub Szczepanski)
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From: Hans Koch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PDF file sharing and updating
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 14:51:48 -0500
>I have a linux server that has a directory of PDF formated documents.
users
>can browse open and read the documents just fine, here comes the BUT.
These
>documents are updated daily some times more than once and if a users
has a
>document open it can't be updated. And updates can't wait til at night
when
>users are not logged in, users have to see the data as it changes. any
>suggestions for updating PDF documents that are open by a user ?
You can always "mv foo.pdf oldfoo.pdf"
and write the new version to foo.pdf
while a user looks at foo.pdf (now oldfoo.pdf).
To see the changes, the user will have to reload
the document. But maybe this is not what you want.
- Hans
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From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: aus.computers.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Linux Book Recommendations please??
Date: 20 Apr 1999 12:23:48 -0700
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>>>>> "spblunt" == <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Dang! And to think since last Fall I've been compiling kernels
>> on Slack 3.5 & using them without any problem ... Good thing
>> you came along to let me know I haven't really been using my
>> box 'cause my kernels are all messed up.
>> Where does this DISinformation come from, anyway?
spblunt> The realm of widely known and accepted facts.
In this household, it's a "widely known and accepted fact" that I've
compiled several kernels on this Slack 3.5 box, up to and including
2.2.0 -- and I've done some of them more than once, to add/subtract
options. I've had no problems.
(Linux 2.2.0) [/home/michael/source]
35 --> uname -a
Linux trollope 2.2.0 #1 Wed Jan 27 03:05:18 PST 1999 i586 unknown
So, I just think you're spreading FUD.
spblunt> The ecgs and pgcc FAQs would be a good place to start.
Actually doing it to see what actually happens would be a good place
for you to start.
mp
powered by GNU/linux since Sept 1997
- --
Michael Powe Portland, Oregon USA
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.trollope.org
"Would John the Baptist have lost his head if his name was Steve?"
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From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: aus.computers.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Linux Book Recommendations please??
Date: 20 Apr 1999 12:49:41 -0700
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>>>>> "spblunt" == <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
spblunt> The Slackware people have some bizarre reason for
spblunt> beleiving that glibc2 (aka libc6) isn't ready for a
spblunt> production system. Slackware 4 when it comes out is will
I don't find it particularly bizarre. I started using Slack after I
"upgraded" from Really Horrible 4.2 to 5.1 and the "upgrade"
completely destroyed my system. After I formatted & installed 5.1, I
could compile almost nothing -- even emacs would not compile. I wiped
that crap off my drive & went to Slackware. In practically no time at
all I was up and running, able to compile without problems --
including the KERNEL. AFAIAC, the blame for Really Horrible's failure
lies squarely with libc6.
As far as usability is concerned, the fact that Slackware uses libc5
instead of libc6 is an asset. It's fine for people who want to be on
the `cutting edge' to screw around with updating the libs; they can
affort to spend a lot of time hacking and patching to keep things
working correctly. I just want something that works. I've got it.
mp
powered by GNU/linux since Sept 1997
- --
Michael Powe Portland, Oregon USA
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.trollope.org
"Would John the Baptist have lost his head if his name was Steve?"
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From: Kent Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can Someone Please Explain To Me...
Date: 19 Apr 1999 15:47:22 -0500
K Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> What wrappers are? I know that there are different kinds of it, for eg.,
> the X wrapper, the tcp wrapper and so on and I also know that it's used
> for security reasons, but can someone please explain to me exactly how it
> works? Thank you very much in advance.
Read the Source, Luke.....
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Subject: Re: Newbie in need of help w/ gnome
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 21:01:36 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the Tue, 20 Apr 1999 07:37:26 -0500...
..and El Capitan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I want get gnome off my system. How do I do that?
I haven't got my crystal ball ready. Tell me what kind of installation
you have made. Why do you want do uninstall it, anyway?
mawa
--
..Roxanne falls in love with Christian, a cavileer in Cyrano's
regiment who hasn't got the brains god gave an eclair...
-- reviewer on NPR
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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:44:41 -0700
From: jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Zipslack
Krusty the Clown wrote:
>
> I am currently trying Linux for about the fourth time and have found one
> that i LIKE. Zip slack.
Uses umsdos right? I don't know, but I think using umsdos for the root
fs is kinda weak. Linux belongs on an ext2 filesystem and in its own
partition. I have heard that the umsdos system is slow,...and I know it
uses more disk space then native systems do because it uses hidden files
to do what it does.
> Any thoughts about this distribution?
Sure
Strengths?
It's Slackware.
It's Slackware.
umm It's Slackware
In other words, its slackware and that makes it good....the other
distros suck my dog's fleas.
Weakeness?
Its on the umsdos filesystem.
umsdos is nice to use for the dos partition to share space and still get
the permissions and everything, but to have it running on root
well...icky.
Slackware itself installs onto its own partition...zipslack seems to me
to be sort of an intro deal to get you started easily.
> What is the best x server to run on it that will run Enlightenment?
The one that runs on your hardware. Enlightenment developers do not
support anything but redhat so if you have troubles count them out on
helping...I know, I tried....and I had lots of troubles.
> Wj\hat is the best way to download an X server.
With an ftp client.
I get confused on all the
> different files that I need. Can anyone simplify and tell me only the bar
> minimum of what I need?
1 server and the runtime libraries....also some of the programs that
come with are absolutely necissary. For a first timer I recomend just
getting the whole thing and then later when you know what you need you
can decide for yourself what to and not to download. Once you know what
server you need and have it running,..go ahead and delete the rest of
the servers...they start with XF86_
> Also. What version of Xfree86 3.3.3.1 should I use? The one for glibc or for
> libc5?
libc5, don't know if the libc6 version would work or not,...slack has
the runtime support,...but I just don't know.
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From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: problems w/ tar
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 05:31:20 -0500
I got a file that has the extension tar.gz. So i ungzipped it but every
time I try to get the files out of the archive (tar -x foo.tar .) it
just sits there. Can somebody help?
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From: El Capitan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Changing virtual window manager in RH5.2
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 05:37:00 -0500
Russell S. DiPesa wrote:
> Right-clicking gives you a speed menu, but not one for changing the window
> manager.
>
> Russ
go to the exit on the menu. You get an option there to change managers.,
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From: "MandM" <M&[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: fvwm
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 21:38:37 GMT
i just got xfree86 going how can i reconfigure fvwm??
please reply to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]
thanks
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From: Jukka Lahtinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: problems with minicom? (thinks i am already online?)
Date: 19 Apr 1999 23:59:04 +0300
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>to my school shell account with minicom no problem but i tried this time and
>it told me "you are already online!" well i had tried to dial up one time
Sounds like you have the carrier signal always on.
Either configure your modem to show the carrier correctly or tell minicom
to ignore it.
With many modems, AT &C1 probably helps (add &C1 in your init string or
save it in the nvram settins on your modem, but first check your modem's
manual).
If you can't get your modem to work right, the other choice is to make
minicom ignore the carrier signal. ("Modem and dialing" menu, "Modem has
DCD line")
--
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! Jukka Lahtinen ! walker at clinet dot fi !
! [EMAIL PROTECTED] and abuse@localhost is where to send spam !
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From: "Jerome PAYS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: USB for linux???
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 00:04:38 +0200
There is still no USB support in the latest kernel release (2.2.6)
But they say this should be done soon...
Spacce
Peter Lee a �crit dans le message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Hi,
>
>I am thinking to buy a zip drive. Does Linux support Iomega USB zip
>drive yet?? How about Iomega 250 zip drive???
>Thanks in advance!
>
>Peter
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Burrow)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: The Best Linux distribution? (was Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux)
Date: 20 Apr 1999 17:25:56 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 19 Apr 1999 22:29:58 -0700,
Leahy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Under linux, a serial mouse that is on com 1 under windows should be on
>either cua0 (for 2.0.3x kernel) and ttyS0 (for 2.2.x kernel)
There is nothing magical about the cuaN and ttySn devices and the kernel
version. Both devices point to the same resource.
No matter what your kernel version is, you should abandon cuaN devices
where possible and only use ttySn devices.
Of course, you may want to know what the difference between the two
devices is. This should be documented somewhere, but the architecture
of separate callout (cuaN) and dialin (ttySn) ports was for ancient
gettys. Modern gettys (eg mgetty) don't require this architecture.
Essentially, using the cuaN port blocked the corresponding ttySn port
at the kernel level. It has since been decided to standardize on the
ttySn devices.
>ln -s ttyS0 mouse (if you have a 2.2.x kernel)
You can use this no matter the kernel.
--
William Burrow -- New Brunswick, Canada o
Copyright 1999 William Burrow ~ /\
~ ()>()
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Vfat and Redhat 5.2
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 19:26:13 GMT
Yep it does support VFAT;
mount -t vfat /dev/hdXX /mount_point
This works great on my machine, I also edited the fstab so that it gets
mounted a boot time!
Mike
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Sherwin) wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:07:49 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jerry Brown)
> wrote:
>
> >I just got done installing Redhat 5.2 and am having problems mounting
> >a Fat32 partition.
> >
> I'm pretty sure the kernel which comes with RH5.2 (2.0.36?) doesn't
> support FAT32. You'll need a more recent kernel. It is actually pretty
> easy to compile a kernel.
>
> Best regards, Paul
>
> Paul Sherwin Consulting 22 Monmouth Road, Oxford OX1 4TD, UK
> Phone +44 (0)1865 721438 http://www.telinco.co.uk/psherwin/index.htm
> Fax +44 (0)1865 434331 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brad Mills)
Subject: gcc/g++ error - too many symbolic links
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 21:05:24 GMT
Trying to compile a mass of C++ code, I get "Too many symbolic links"
as header files get included. Funny thing is, not one symbolic link
is in my include path. All header files are in the same directory,
at the same directory level. I think the error is actually that
I have too many levels of include - one header includes another
which includes another, etc.
How would I fix this short of restructuring the code? It looks to
me like a compiler deficiency...
Brad
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Beresh)
Subject: linux & win98: one hard drive or two?
Date: 20 Apr 1999 15:52:34 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I will be purchasing/building a dual-boot linux/Win98 system soon, and
want to know if it's better to put both OS's on different drives, or if
it doesn't really matter much. Two 4.5 GB drives isn't much more
expensive than one 9 GB drive (I think), so if there are clear
advantages to using two drives it might be worth it. If I have two
drives, are the boot problems still present since the boot sector is
still located on the master drive and must be apppropriately shared? Or
am I way out of touch with the cutting edge now? (It's been a couple of
years since I was an active computer geek.)
Also, how big does a drive have to be before the 1024 cylinder
limitations causes trouble?
--Steve
--
Steve Beresh *
Dept of Aerospace Engineering * "I hate quotations."
University of Texas at Austin * --Ralph Waldo Emerson
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stuart Lynne)
Subject: Re: Yggdrasil or Trinux Linux?
Date: 19 Apr 1999 18:49:39 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Daniel Beer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> I am looking for a version of Linux that runs entirely off of RAM
>> without any HD installation.
>>
>> I have narrowed the candidates down to either Yggdrasil Linux or Trinux.
>> The version will be implemented on a stand-alone (no NIC) Windows based
>> PC.
>>
>> Any input from users as to the pro's and con's of either of these
>> distributions would be great.
>
>One that I use occaisionally is called Tomsrtbt. It's pretty good. It
>gets installed on a 1.44MB boot disk, which when booted, expands the root
>and user filesystems off the disk and into a RAM-disk. This means that
>you don't need the disk after it's booted.
See http://www.thinlinux.org for a generic small linux distribution.
It is designed to boot from small media (floppy disk) and run from a RAM
disk.
For an example of using thinlinux for building an application see
http://edge.fireplug.net. That is a masquerading firewall suitable for
a cable modem network connection.
--
Stuart Lynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 604-461-7532 <http://edge.fireplug.net>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Nielsen)
Subject: Re: Shift-PgUp
Date: 19 Apr 1999 16:52:36 -0400
Isn't that with an environment variable in bash or tcsh?
If it is an xterm, then it is a variable you can call when you start the
xterm .
Mark
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, gus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On my SuSE6.0 system, I have a query ...
>
>How does one increase the number of lines available when you scroll up
>on the command line with <Shift>PgUp.
>
>With my text mode at 132x50, I find that I have the current page, and
>the previous page, which gives me 100 lines of "history". I would like
>to increase this to about 400 (I gave 192M, so that should not be an
>issue ...). How would this be done?
>
>gus
--
Mark Nielsen "Where 98 has no meaning."
www.tcu-inc.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Computer Underground, Inc. 614-485-0506
computers, programming, networking, Perl, PHP, SQL, HTMl, Linux, Unix
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Nielsen)
Subject: Re: cgi script
Date: 19 Apr 1999 16:57:53 -0400
Did you read the Virtual howto?
Also, did you check out linuxconf?
I don't remember if it has it off the top of my head.
Otherwise, you would probably have to pay someone to do it.
I cannot imagine it isn't incoporated into some webpage already.
In article <7ffjsk$7la$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Dominik Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I am in need of a cgi-script with which I can add mail accounts to
>virtual domains.
>We host some virtual domains and want that our customers
>can add, change and delete E-mail accounts from their virtual domain.
>I hope someone can help me find such a script.
>
>so long
>Dominik Meyer
>
>
>
>
--
Mark Nielsen "Where 98 has no meaning."
www.tcu-inc.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Computer Underground, Inc. 614-485-0506
computers, programming, networking, Perl, PHP, SQL, HTMl, Linux, Unix
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From: Gavin McCord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can't read JPEG files sometimes
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 00:30:55 +0100
Markus Wandel wrote:
<SNIP>
I've had this problem on Slackware a few times. Does it
tell you which version of the library it needs. Maybe you need
an updated jpeg lib.
"I'm Keyser Soze. No, I'm Keyser Soze. I'm Keyser Soze and so's
my wife..."
-Monty Python plays The Usual Suspects
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From: "Don Macpherson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.databases,linux.redhat.misc,alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.databases.oracle.misc,comp.databases.oracle.server,comp.database.oracle
Subject: Re: Oracle8i for Linux: Anyone recieved their CD yet?
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:40:50 -0400
Steve Bowen wrote in message ...
>In article <7fg0sh$gck$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>says...
>
>> How do I obtain this?
>> Would I have to pay for it? Or is this a trial version?
>
>I downloaded a trial version from the Oracle site.
>
>Once I decided to go with Oracle on Linux instead of my previously
>planned SQL Server on NT I spoke with our corporate Oracle Rep. We were
>able to get full credit for what we had already spent on SQL Server 7
>towards the purchase of Oracle. I believe Oracle calls this their "Safe
>Switch Program".
How much more expensive was Oracle? (20%, 50, 100%, ?) Your post seems to
suggest that the refund on SQL Server only covered part of the cost of the
Oracle solution.
Don Macpherson
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From: Hans Koch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Wanted: Linux replacements for VAJ and Quicken
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 14:19:08 -0500
>After moving to linux I now only use Windoze NT for two applications:
>1) IBM VisualAge for Java
>2) Quicken (On-Line account management using TOnline/BTX)
>
>Can anyone recommend very good (or just plain good) replacements which
will
>work on Linux ? Not EMACS, I mean a real IDE.
>
>Help me finally get off of the M$ band waggon.
>
>Bill.
I am using xacc at home
(see http://www.cs.hmc.edu/~rclark/xacc/)
and it does what I expect it to do.
I think that xacc can read Quicken files,
but I have never seen/used Quicken and don't care.
BTW, I found out about xacc from
http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/financelinux.html
(unfortunately only after having installed
a number of other programs, including cbb)
Hope some of this helps ...
- Hans
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From: Jerry Lynn Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Applixware Office vs StarOffice
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 17:37:32 -0500
Ed Hurst wrote:
>
> Mihaly is right on the memory usage. I am currently using both, on an
> i586/133 with 64MB RAM and a separate 120MB swap drive, along side a huge
> 6.4GB main. Star Office 5.0 is kinda slow on my machine. and the files are
> huge. On the other hand, I can't reacall any features in MS Office that
> aren't duplicated (more or less) by Star Office. Further, Star Office adds
> drag-n-drop file management.
> The reason I still use Applix is that it is simpler, faster, and best
> of all: it allows you to open multiple windows and move them to other
> parts of your virtual desktop. It compares favorably with MS Works, for
> the most part.
I run a P166 with 64MB of RAM and a 127MB swap file. I purchased all
three: corel, applix and staroffice. I like them all. I gave SO to my
son for his RedHat box, and I keep Corel and Applix on my box. I prefer
Applix for the same reasons you mention, and I like it's appearance
better than Corel. However, I write a lot of documents containing
calculus symbolics and I prefer Corel's technique over Applix's. If I
were forced to choose just one, however, I would go with Applix.
> There are several projects in or near beta release that promise to
> give both good competition. While Corel promises to release the rest of
> their Corel Office (Paradox and Quattro, perhaps Draw), they appear to
> have done a very shoddy job of porting Word Perfect to Linux. Most of the
> people I've talked to don't trust Corel to have good intentions.
--
JLK
Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is
right.
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From: Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Images
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 19:34:31 -0400
Gerald Willmann wrote:
>
> On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Paul wrote:
>
> > How do I view Jpeg images.
> > I was told told to use something called xv but I can't find it in
> > usr/x11r6/bin.
>
> maybe you need to install xv (or xview - sorry I use xvscan so I can't
> check). Otherwise netscape displays jpegs just fine but is admittedly
> overkill.
>
> > Also how do I make it work so that it opens up my files when double
> > clicked.
>
> you have to tell us what windowmanager and desktop you use. Under tkdesk
> xv is the default when you double click on a jpeg - still need it
> installed to work, of course
> Gerald
--
Hey Gerald thanks..
I am using KDE, and so my desk top is the same.
Idon't have xv, so I will look into the ones you mentioned.
Netscape, for get it, runs like a snail.
Man. Getting to know linux is a job.
Paul
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jakub Szczepanski)
Subject: Linux history
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 20:57:00 GMT
Hey!
I'm looking for web ressources and literature about the history of
linux. Does any of you know good publications about it?
Thanks is advance!
JaKuB
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