Linux-Misc Digest #913, Volume #24 Sat, 24 Jun 00 09:13:01 EDT
Contents:
Re: Cut and Paste in Linux/KDE.... (Raymond McLaughlin)
Re: Why can't I unmount....????? ("David ..")
Re: mknod...Anyone...???? (Jim Marshall)
Re: Cut and Paste in Linux/KDE.... (Jim Marshall)
Re: Linux Memory Monitor ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: New Roaring Penguin PPPoE Client (David Steuber)
Re: GNU/LINUX at city of Boston Public Library departments (Floyd Davidson)
Problem on SMTP for new user. ("Bob Yeo")
Re: mind hours in development Linux vs. Windows (John Hasler)
Re: telnet ("Gero H. Marten")
Re: Newbie: Screen Saver Problem (Andrew Purugganan)
Re: Setting up a shellaccount server (Philip)
Re: Trying to install gnuvoice (John)
hep with libqt (Oder Santos)
need guru's assistance: mail system (postfix) broken (Dr Teeth)
X server crashes with nvidia-driver ("FROZEN_Steam")
Re: hep with libqt (Thomas Zajic)
Re: Can't mount cdrom (Robert Hampf)
Re: X server crashes with nvidia-driver ("B. Joshua Rosen")
Re: X server crashes with nvidia-driver (Conan)
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From: Raymond McLaughlin <"driveray"@ix.netcom .com>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,nf.comp.linux
Subject: Re: Cut and Paste in Linux/KDE....
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 03:28:45 -0400
"Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
>
> The Almighty One <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : there are only 2 buttons - no center button ... for most users ... again - the
>
> Hit both buttons together.
>
> : ease of use of M$ global clipboarding ... would be a big thing if Linux GUI's
>
> You are confused. That ctrl or alt V/C/X thing is unweildy. It's
> far easier to swipe and click. It's the classical way. That MS fouled
> up by making up a different and more difficult way is their problem.
>
> Peter
Could you please elaborate on "swipe and click"? I take it that this is
something that will work for all applications that run in kde?
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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,nf.comp.linux
Subject: Re: Why can't I unmount....?????
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 02:19:15 -0500
Hendrix wrote:
>
> Hi guys,
>
> Why is it that unmounting doesn't always work...??? Sometimes I try to
> unmount a specific filesystem and the system will return a message
> saying that the device is busy, and cannot be unmounted... This message
> is persistant even after I use the 'sync' command... The filesystem
> doesn't seem to be busy... Sometimes the specifed mount is completely
> empty with no files on the filesystem at all...But yet, the busy message
> is still sent to the screen...
>
> Anyone...???
Does it help to "cd" then umount?
--
Registered with the Linux Counter. http://counter.li.org
ID # 123538
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Marshall)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,nf.comp.linux
Subject: Re: mknod...Anyone...????
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 00:28:22 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In alt.os.linux on Sat, 24 Jun 2000 03:15:06 -0230,
Hendrix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi guys,
>
>A friend of mine told me that it was possible to completely re-create
>the /dev directory by using the mknod command...!!! How is this
>done...???
Yes, it's possible. Not something you'd want to do manually, though.
>The same friend deleted the /dev directory on one of my systems... Any
>and all help will be appreciated... Thanks...
You'll want to use something like the MAKEDEV script. Slackware installs
this script in /dev, but the script itself appears to be maintained by
redhat. Search on freshmeat, the redhat site, or look through one of your
other systems and I bet you'll find it. If you can't find it, I can mail
you a copy.
--
Slackware 7.0 Linux
12:24am up 2:03, 3 users, load average: 0.05, 0.03, 0.00
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Marshall)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,nf.comp.linux
Subject: Re: Cut and Paste in Linux/KDE....
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 00:44:48 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In alt.os.linux on Sat, 24 Jun 2000 03:28:45 -0400,
Raymond McLaughlin <@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>"Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
>>
>> The Almighty One <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> : there are only 2 buttons - no center button ... for most users ... again - the
>>
>> Hit both buttons together.
>>
>> : ease of use of M$ global clipboarding ... would be a big thing if Linux GUI's
>>
>> You are confused. That ctrl or alt V/C/X thing is unweildy. It's
>> far easier to swipe and click. It's the classical way. That MS fouled
>> up by making up a different and more difficult way is their problem.
>>
>> Peter
>Could you please elaborate on "swipe and click"? I take it that this is
>something that will work for all applications that run in kde?
I believe he means the gpm-style of selection mentioned earlier in the
thread: text is automatically "copied" as you left-click and drag the
mouse to highlight it. It's then pasted with a center click (or right
click under gpm). The Windows way adds a step to this, in that you first
select, then copy via ctrl-c or the edit menu.
--
Slackware 7.0 Linux
12:39am up 2:18, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Linux Memory Monitor
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 07:46:12 GMT
Hi,
Sorry that has taken so long to get back to you with the answers to the
questions that you asked me !
1) I wish to monitor the RAM memory usage. Although it would be nice to
see how the swap area is being used as well.
2) The network is based on 100mtz hubs/switches with a 64K line linking
to a remote site, but I do not need to monitor anything on the other
side of that. The LAN has very little trafic on it other than Web
browsing and an NFS server (5 clients).
I hope this is of some use.
Peter
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: New Roaring Penguin PPPoE Client
Crossposted-To: comp.dcom.xdsl,comp.os.linux.networking
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 22:00:00 GMT
"Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
' what is "hoploholic" ??????????????
The last time I answered that question was in comp.text.tex. It
prompted a brief, but very off topic set of posts. If you don't mind,
please do a Deja search, or ask me in private e-mail. In spite of the
obvious spam filter nature of my From: header, it is a reall address
and I will be able to read your message provided you use a valid From:
and, if applicable, valid Sender: headers.
I think I should include this information on my website when I have a
new design up. This has become a FAQ.
--
David Steuber | Hi! My name is David Steuber, and I am
NRA Member | a hoploholic.
All bits are significant. Some bits are more significant than others.
-- Charles Babbage Orwell
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From: Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: GNU/LINUX at city of Boston Public Library departments
Crossposted-To: ne.internet.services
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 08:12:56 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charles Demas) wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Rich Braun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Floyd Davidson wrote:
>>
>>> Do you really think that the vi or emacs of today is the same
>>> one that was around in 1980????
>>
>>Well, it's *possible* that vi has changed since then. But I only use the
>>commands that I learned in 1978.
>
>FWIW, vim (a vi clone) is better, especially in that it has built in
>help capability. Learning vi is VERY painful.
>
>But vim may not be installed on all variants of unix, so using special
>stuff in vim may not be the best approach if you must work on many
>systems.
Y'all have heard the rumor (which I've never seen denied) that
has been going around for at least 10-12 years now, that Bill
Joy switched to Emacs?
Maybe that says something... ;-)
Floyd
--
Floyd L. Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)
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From: "Bob Yeo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.net,linux.news.groups,sg.linux,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Problem on SMTP for new user.
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 16:17:53 +0800
I'm a new user to Linux, and I manage to get my Linux Mail Server up and
able to send mail out to any internet users.
The problem is that I'm under to receive anymail sending to my domain name.
1.) I'm using a dial-up line to connect to the Internet.
2.) my domain name is under1sun.com and ip address is 216.34.13.231
3.) I have first set my Linux Box IP = 192.168.100.50, and having problem of
receive my email, so I
changed it to the same as my ISP assigned IP = 216.34.13.231, but still
having the same problem. Later I changed back to 192.168.100.50
4.) Can i set my Linux Box IP to 216.34.13.231, which is same as
under1sun.com? and my Linux server name is "mail.under1sun.com" and can I
set my Linux domain same as "under1sun.com"?
5.) My incoming POP3 from the ISP is "mail.namezero.com"
6.) My outgoing STMP from the ISP is "smtp.namezeo.com"
7.) I'm using Qpopper 3.0.2 version and I'm able to "Telnet
mail.under1sun.com 25" is will prompt the following:
Trying 192.168.100.50
Connected to mail.under1sun.com
Escape character is '^]'.
220 mail.under1sun.com ESMTP sendmail 8.9.3/8.8.7; Sat, 24 jun 2000 16:12.56
+0800
8.) Then if "Telnet mail.under1sun.com 110" is will prompt the following:
Trying 192.168.100.50
Connected to mail.under1sun.com
Escape character is '^]'.
+OK QPOP Modified by under1sun (version 3.0.2) at mail.under1sun.com
starting. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Please kindly advise.
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mind hours in development Linux vs. Windows
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 01:19:23 GMT
Joachim Feise writes:
> The commercial use of PGP requires a license,...
That's what I said: PGP is not free software.
> The current versions of PGP are not under GPL, though.
But gpg is (not that the GPL is the only free license).
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin
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From: "Gero H. Marten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: telnet
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 08:52:56 +0200
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> hi!
> i can;t telnet into my linux box, it says connection refused by host.
> form windows machine it says connection lost
> I have checked the inetd.conf file, it is ok
> what is the problem?
> thanks in advance
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
My car doesn't start anymore. Any ideas?
--
Gero H. Marten
<http://www.provi.de/gmarten/>
--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Purugganan)
Subject: Re: Newbie: Screen Saver Problem
Date: 24 Jun 2000 11:05:53 GMT
Marcus ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: I have just installed Redhat 6.2.
: I would like to set a screen saver in GNome X window,
: but most of them doesn't work, I can see the preview in "screen saver
: setup"
: but after setting the trigger time and clicking 'OK' button, then I wait
: for it.
: when time is up, the screen is blank, and NO screen saver (the graphic)
: is shown.
are you logged on as root? i think you have to tweak it to make it work
for root, but log on as a different user, and it works. I think it's set
up that way by default for security reasons. You can see the warning
messages when you quit X
...because if your PC ever falls into the wrong hands...
--
jazz annandy AT dc DOT seflin DOT org
Registered linux user no. 164098
Doesn't it bother you, that we have to search for intelligent life
--- OUT THERE??
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From: Philip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.security,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Setting up a shellaccount server
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 11:30:31 GMT
> >use another distrubution so don't tell me that I should use another one,
> OK, I won't.
thanks :)
> Why ? You'll need an enormous amount of HD space per user. You could
> also make a minimal fs under e.g. /shellusers and have all your
> shellusers chroot to that directory.
Ok, so not a chrooted system :). Are there other solutions to hide the
directory structure ? I don't see why my users should be abel to explore
the whole fs. And I think it makes it only more easy to find expoits.
Maybe a kernel patch ? hey look :) I know some C , but I am not going to
patch the kernel myself :) hmmm.. maybe in another year I will
> In a chrooted environment you'll need to install copies of the needed
> packages. I think you can set the rootdir when installing rpm's.
> Get the latest kernel as 2.2.15 has a security hole.
Indeed .. i've read about the security hole so now I will install kernel
2.2.16 with the openwall kernel patch.
> man ulimit, man quota. And have a close look at all the tools a user has
> at his disposal to start attacks *from* your box or take a lot of your
> bandwith.
Do you have url's or more information about these ? Man pages are great
when you already know a little bit about the subject :)
--
Philip van Hoof aka freax _/_/_/
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _/_/ _/ _/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/ _/
A real programmer might not _/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/
know his wifes name, he do _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/
however knows the entire _/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/
ASCII && EBCDIC codes table _/_/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John)
Subject: Re: Trying to install gnuvoice
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 11:52:48 GMT
Thank you David for the reply
I have all the libs need now (I think). I run configure then I run
make and I get the error back :
GtkView.C: In method 'GtkView::GtkView(classs GtkModel *)';
GtkView.C:334: virtual memor exhausted
make[1]: *** [GtkView.o] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory '/gnuvoice-1.0.1/src'
make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
It sounds like I ran out of memory, if so how do I fix it. My swap
area is 128 meg and ram is 64 meg, I highly doubt that it is disk
space.
On Thu, 22 Jun 2000 01:12:06 -0500, "David .."
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>John wrote:
>>
>> I had to install the gtk-- lib. gnuVoice is looking for the
>> gtkmm-config file. I installed it as an rpm, I also look for and
>> config file and found none that belonged to it. Where would I find
>> such a file or where would I get it.
>
>I would say the gtkmm-config file is in "gtkmm" or "gtkmm-devel"
>package.
>
>http://www.gnome.org/
>
>--
>Registered with the Linux Counter. http://counter.li.org
>ID # 123538
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From: Oder Santos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: hep with libqt
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 09:03:20 -0300
Does anyone know where can I find libqt.so.1? Thanks in advance, Oder.
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From: Dr Teeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: need guru's assistance: mail system (postfix) broken
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 11:53:53 GMT
Somehow my postfix (used for sending/recieving mail) setup got broken on
my Mandrake 7.1 (basically RedHat 6.2) box. I cannot send mail
internally (to other users on the box) or externally (to any email
addresses).
When I log in as root, I get the message "You have mail.", but when I
type 'mail', I get "No mail for root." This is the same for other
users.
I am an advanced unix/linux admin, and this has been racking my brain
for
weeks. Some of the things I have already investigated or tried are:
- Running 'mailq'. This reports "mail quene is empty", despite the fact
that I have sent numerous test messages, and despite the forementioned
login message about new mail. NOTE: At one very early point in this
investigation, I tried running 'mailq', and I got the message "mail
system down", followed by over 300+ message headers (still undelivered
and probably somewhere in the bermuda triangle). At this point I
quickly realized that postfix wasn't running, so I started it with
'/etc/rc.d/init.d/postfix start', and also enabled it for automatic
startup with the system using 'linuxconf'. I then did a 'postfix
flush', and the 'mailq' info vanished (and never delivered a single
message). My postfix does start up automatically now, but my test
messages get lost and 'mailq' is empty.
- Running 'postfix check'. This returns nothing.
- Uninstalling the postfix package (rpm), and reinstalling. No
difference at all.
- Examing '/etc/inetd.conf' to see if I had something vital commented
out. To my knowledge, this wouldn't make a difference for my local
messages anyway. Furthermore, there are no entries pertaining to
postfix... Apparently postfix uses its own daemons and agents.
- Checking to make sure postfix is up. Running
'/etc/rc.d/init.d/postfix status' ensures this and returns the PID.
Also, running 'ps -e' shows the agents 'postfix/master', 'qmgr', and
'pickup' running.
I am really out of ideas here. Any help is greatly appreciated. At
this point, email must be restored, and I am about to turn to a last
resort and backup and reinstall the entire system. That would suck, and
it is too reminiscant of Win NT/9x problems. I want to figure this
out...
Thanks in advance,
Dr Teeth
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: "FROZEN_Steam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.x,nl.comp.os.linux.overig,nl.comp.os.linux.x
Subject: X server crashes with nvidia-driver
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 14:05:19 +0200
Hello,
I've installed Nidia's driver for my tnt2 ultra card. When I attempt to
start X, the screen gets black and the system doesn't react to anything. The
only way to get out of this is by restarting with ctrl-alt-del...
I've already put 'char-major-195 NVdriver' in /etc/conf.modules, but it
still doesn't work.
Can anyone help?
thanx,
Floris
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Zajic)
Subject: Re: hep with libqt
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Zajic)
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 12:23:30 GMT
On Sat, 24 Jun 2000 09:03:20 -0300, Oder Santos wrote:
> Does anyone know where can I find libqt.so.1?
<ftp://ftp.troll.no/qt/source/>
HTH,
Thomas
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- Thomas "ZlatkO" Zajic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Linux-2.2.16/slrn-0.9.6.2+ -
- "It is not easy to cut through a human head with a hacksaw." (M. C.) -
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Hampf)
Subject: Re: Can't mount cdrom
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 15:36:34 +0300
John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> h�lt �essu fram:
:
: First; I did make dep not depmod but the kicker is that I was not
: putting the new kernel in the right place. Once I put it in the right
: place all but the cdrom and isofs symbols resolved. Any thoughts on
: these. Are they neede for the ide-scsi when mounting a ide cdrom as a
: scsi.
Have you tried not to use modules? To compile everything into the
kernel. It makes things a lot simplier.
rh
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From: "B. Joshua Rosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.x,nl.comp.os.linux.overig,nl.comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: X server crashes with nvidia-driver
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 08:56:27 -0400
You may be selecting a configuration that your monitor doesn't support.
Use Xconfigurator to do the setup, It allows you to try various
different combinations of settings, if a setting doesn't work it reverts
back to VGA so that you can try another.
FROZEN_Steam wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I've installed Nidia's driver for my tnt2 ultra card. When I attempt to
> start X, the screen gets black and the system doesn't react to anything. The
> only way to get out of this is by restarting with ctrl-alt-del...
>
> I've already put 'char-major-195 NVdriver' in /etc/conf.modules, but it
> still doesn't work.
>
> Can anyone help?
>
> thanx,
> Floris
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Conan)
Crossposted-To:
alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.x,nl.comp.os.linux.overig,nl.comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: X server crashes with nvidia-driver
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 13:06:34 GMT
Hi
I've got the same problem with my geforce card. After many e-mails
with [EMAIL PROTECTED], it turned out to be an IRQ conflict. With me
- it was the HISAX driver who could not share IRQ. Do a "cat
/proc/pci" and check out who shares resources.
On Sat, 24 Jun 2000 14:05:19 +0200, "FROZEN_Steam"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I've installed Nidia's driver for my tnt2 ultra card. When I attempt to
>start X, the screen gets black and the system doesn't react to anything. The
>only way to get out of this is by restarting with ctrl-alt-del...
>
>I've already put 'char-major-195 NVdriver' in /etc/conf.modules, but it
>still doesn't work.
>
>Can anyone help?
>
>thanx,
>Floris
>
>
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