Linux-Misc Digest #913, Volume #23 Tue, 21 Mar 00 08:13:02 EST
Contents:
Re: Senile Netscape... (Thomas Zajic)
Re: Which one to pick (Anthony Campbell)
Re: Cant detect printer port ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Do you hate vi? (Roman Belenov)
Restoring LILO (Patrick Home)
Re: Do you hate vi? (Matt Chiglinsky)
Re: help with serial port settings ("Harry Overs")
Re: Do you hate vi? vi or vim? Deathmatch! ("Sameer Singh Chabungbam (till June
2000)")
Re: Win2000 trashed Lilo, of course. I GIVE UP!!! (Bernhard Mogens Ege)
TurboLinux Discussion Forum ("Chris Hills")
Re: User password required to reboot (Alan Burns)
Memory Not Recognized ("Buck Turgidson")
Re: rcp/rsh examples - *Solved* Thanks (Andy)
Re: Do you hate vi? vi or vim? Deathmatch! (Ralf Arens)
Re: linux web appliance ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Restoring LILO (Bjorn Beheydt)
How can I get files from my Win98 c: drive in Linux? ("ShiDeng")
Re: Restoring LILO (Brad)
Re: Restoring LILO (Brad)
Re: Memory Not Recognized ("Buck Turgidson")
Netscape woes: Bus error (kev)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Zajic)
Subject: Re: Senile Netscape...
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Zajic)
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 10:12:12 GMT
On Tue, 21 Mar 2000 03:55:31 +0000, Jon McLin wrote:
> Periodically (random intervals) Netscape 4.61 loses all references
> to news servers (and newsgroups) other than than my default news server.
> Platform is Mandrake 6.0
>
> Until Opera arrives for Linux (and I'm willing to pay Big Bucks for a
> Reliable Product...), any ideas on how to avoid this?
Use a newsreader instead of a web browser.
Thomas
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- Thomas "ZlatkO" Zajic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Linux-2.0.38/slrn-0.9.6.2 -
- "It is not easy to cut through a human head with a hacksaw." (M. C.) -
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anthony Campbell)
Subject: Re: Which one to pick
Date: 21 Mar 2000 10:19:27 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 21 Mar 2000 04:38:15 +0100, Albert Ulmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Andreas Kahari wrote:
>> > I know this will cause some debate - however I am a relatively
>> > compentent pc
>> > engineer and I want to have a look at linux
>
>Great!
>
>> I use the Debian GNU/Linux distribution of GNU/Linux, and I'm happy with
>> it.
>
>Yes, so am I. I used to use SuSE before I switched to Debian. IMHO
>Debian really is the best distribution for people who have profound
>computer knowledge.
I'd vote for Debian too. I started with Slackware several years ago but
almost gave up on Linux because I couldn't install new programs. I
switched to RedHat and found it a lot better, but many of the programs
had bugs and it was often difficult to know in advance if a package was
going to run correctly on my system. I moved to Debian about 18 months
ago and find it excellent. The .deb packages nearly always work as
advertised and if they don't I get helpful replies from the maintainers.
Upgrading the system is very easy and pretty well painless.
Anthony
--
Anthony Campbell - running Linux Debian 2.1 (Windows-free zone)
Book Reviews: http://www.pentelikon.freeserve.co.uk/bookreviews/
Skeptical articles: http://www.freethinker/uklinux.net/
"To be forced by desire into any unwarrantable belief is a calamity."
I.A. Richards
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Cant detect printer port
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 10:38:39 GMT
Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: There is a *known bug* in the RH 6.1 installer. It leaves out a needed
: line in /etc/conf.modules. Add the line:
: alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc
: to /etc/conf.modules and restart kerneld.
Cool, that worked, cheers.
: Your old HP printer is either one of the above OR it is a pure
: PostScript printer. If the latter, you don't need *any* 'drivers'.
Hey, that worked aswell! I just left the driver option empty and now it
works okay(ish)... Cool :-)
Mark
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From: Roman Belenov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,comp.editors,comp.unix.misc
Subject: Re: Do you hate vi?
Date: 21 Mar 2000 13:40:01 +0300
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Norb�ck) writes:
> Did I mention that I use vim to answer usenet posts?
Does vim have an internal newsreader ?
--
With regards, Roman.
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From: Patrick Home <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Restoring LILO
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 10:30:02 GMT
I have Linux (Redhat 5.2) in my PC which is also running Windows 98.
Recently, I had to format the DOS partition after it had crashed. After
formatting, I loaded Windows 98. Unfortunately, after formating the DOS
partition and reloading Win98, the LILO operating system selector
disappeared and now I cannot access Linux at all. I tried booting through
the Linux CD so that I can reload LILO but something has gone wrong with
the CD. The computer is not able to read the CD at all though CD looks ok
and clean. I dont even have a Linux boot floppy, because I never thought
that CDs also get spoiled with age.
How do I get to access the Linux again in my PC? How to get the LILO back?
Is it possible to load the LILO in the Windows environment and make it
operational on reboot?
--
Posted via CNET Help.com
http://www.help.com/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matt Chiglinsky)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,comp.editors,comp.unix.misc
Subject: Re: Do you hate vi?
Date: 21 Mar 2000 11:11:06 GMT
On 21 Mar 2000 13:40:01 +0300, Roman Belenov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Norb�ck) writes:
>
>> Did I mention that I use vim to answer usenet posts?
>
>Does vim have an internal newsreader ?
LOL. :) Don't you know you can use vim as a newsreader by definining
a macro that sends the output of rn to your buffer then saves it to a
file....then all you have to do is go here and do this and....
No seriously I use vi with trn myself. Trn actually calls vi this time
to edit temporary files that get posted.
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From: "Harry Overs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.help,linux.redhat,linux.redhat.misc,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: help with serial port settings
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 11:27:11 -0000
I tried stty eol 10
"Grant Edwards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <8ao4t1$rl4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Harry Overs wrote:
>
> > How do I set the serial port /dev/ttyS1 to so that it recognises the nl
> > newline ) character as the eol character. I have tried to use stty but
that
> > does not seem to work.
>
> Serial ports don't handle that, the tty driver does. To what do you refer
> when you say "the nl newline ) character"? By default the linefeed should
> be recognized as the eol character.
>
> In any case, stty should be able to do what you want. What exactly did you
> try, and what happened?
>
> --
> Grant Edwards grante Yow! UH-OH!! We're out
> at of AUTOMOBILE PARTS and
> visi.com RUBBER GOODS!
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From: "Sameer Singh Chabungbam (till June 2000)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,comp.editors,comp.unix.misc
Subject: Re: Do you hate vi? vi or vim? Deathmatch!
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 12:12:59 +0100
Dances With Crows wrote:
>
>> >How easy is it to put together a rescue disk?
>
> Not that hard. You need a kernel with RAM disk support, and you need a
> compressed filesystem image to be your initial RAMdisk, and you need to
> mutter the correct incantations to get everything to fit on a floppy.
<snip> <snip>
And I always thought you need a new disk if it ever crashed ;-)
- sameer.
--
main(int a,char*__,char*_){_&&main((++a<<a<<!!_)+!!_,"lm`*gcZe7YgYX_Rc",
0)&&putchar((a<<a)+a)||(--a&&putchar(*(--__+a++)+a)&&main(--a,++__,0));}
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Subject: Re: Win2000 trashed Lilo, of course. I GIVE UP!!!
From: Bernhard Mogens Ege <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 11:37:11 GMT
>>>>> "spike1" == spike1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> And verily, didst Bernhard Mogens Ege hastily scribble thusly:
>>>>>>> "Brad" == Brad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>> I have tried and tried. WHY IS THIS SO HARD???? I have spent hours and hours on
>>> this and i can't get lilo installed.
>>> Can anyone help me with this? It is getting very dull.
>>> Brad
>> Well, you could try loadlin.exe from DOS. This is what I always boot
>> my RedHat installation with.
> Win2000 doesn't have DOS.... does it?
I don't know. I don't care for Win2000. Doesn't matter that much
anyway.
Its is not difficult to create two floppy discs, one dos bootable and
the other contains the kernel. I am sure Brad knows somebody who has
access to a dos/win3x/win9x machine who can help him do create such a
floppy. Otherwise check http://www.bootdisk.com/ where boot images can
be downloaded and created using the rawwrite tool.
You (spike1) give up quite easily, dont you.
regards,
Bernhard
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From: "Chris Hills" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.powerpc,comp.os.linux.security,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: TurboLinux Discussion Forum
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 23:15:55 +1100
Reply-To: "Chris Hills" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
New discussion and chat forum at http://www.astimsit.com.au/forum.html for
TurboLinux and general Linux related issues and discussions.
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From: aburns@!SPAMTRAP.ebicom.net (Alan Burns)
Subject: Re: User password required to reboot
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 13:02:01 GMT
On Tue, 21 Mar 2000 04:57:44 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Herb Stein)
wrote:
>Normal users are not supposed to do that.
How do you know what his users are supposed to do?
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From: "Buck Turgidson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Memory Not Recognized
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 12:03:56 GMT
I installed RedHat 6.1 on an IBM PC 350, which counts all 80MB upon booting.
I also just upgraded the BIOS, and added append="mem=80M" to lilo.conf. But
it only sees 64 MB, no matter what I do.
Any thoughts as to what to try next?
free summary
===================
[root@lacalena /etc]# free
total used free shared buffers cached
Mem: 64136 34168 29968 25496 3284 20492
-/+ buffers/cache: 10392 53744
Swap: 116888 0 116888
lilo.conf
===========
[root@lacalena /etc]# cat lilo.conf
boot=/dev/hda
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
prompt
timeout=50
default=linux
append="mem=80M"
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.12-20
label=linux
initrd=/boot/initrd-2.2.12-20.img
read-only
root=/dev/hda8
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andy)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: rcp/rsh examples - *Solved* Thanks
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 12:19:47 GMT
Hello everyone,
got it working!
Thanks to everyone who responded, your comments and assistance were of
*great* help and it's appreciated.
Cheers,
Andy.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"You don't buy beer, you only rent it."
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ralf Arens)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,comp.editors,comp.unix.misc
Subject: Re: Do you hate vi? vi or vim? Deathmatch!
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 12:12:37 +0100
Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ralf Arens) wrote in
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>You can compile different versions of Vim. gvim is compiled with Gtk+
>>and Interpreters for Perl, Python and Tcl (and several other
>>features). vim is compiled without interpreters but with the other
>>features, e.g. syntax-highlighting, cindent, autocmd, viminfo.
> He showed vim, not gvim. Mine does syntax highlighting, no interpreters.
Oh, please forgive me that I was too lazy to compile a non-gui Vim
with interpreters.
Ciao,
Ralf
--
We all live under the same sky, but we don't all have the same horizon.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: linux web appliance
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 12:33:28 GMT
In article <8a8u19$vm7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Andreas Kahari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <8a8q1h$1v8$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "bill baumgarten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > iopener
>
> What's that?
-snip-
Lots of threads about this (search for iOpener in deja.com).
http://iopener.n3.net has a pile of links to related sites.
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: Bjorn Beheydt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Restoring LILO
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 12:43:36 GMT
Patrick Home wrote:
>
> I have Linux (Redhat 5.2) in my PC which is also running Windows 98.
> Recently, I had to format the DOS partition after it had crashed. After
> formatting, I loaded Windows 98. Unfortunately, after formating the DOS
> partition and reloading Win98, the LILO operating system selector
> disappeared and now I cannot access Linux at all. I tried booting through
> the Linux CD so that I can reload LILO but something has gone wrong with
> the CD. The computer is not able to read the CD at all though CD looks ok
> and clean. I dont even have a Linux boot floppy, because I never thought
> that CDs also get spoiled with age.
>
> How do I get to access the Linux again in my PC? How to get the LILO back?
> Is it possible to load the LILO in the Windows environment and make it
> operational on reboot?
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/
Go to www.toms.net and download toms root boot diskette... make a
diskette from it, and boot your system with it, now you can mount your
root partition, and run lilo.
--
==============================================================================
Bjorn Beheydt
New and Improved Homepage: http://www.linuxfreak.com/~borniet
Linux: because it separates the boys from the men.
==============================================================================
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Reply-To: "ShiDeng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "ShiDeng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How can I get files from my Win98 c: drive in Linux?
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 12:51:54 GMT
I have two operating systems installed on one hard drive. Windows 98 and
Linux. How can I get files from the c: drive of Windows 98 in Linux? I
tried to copy the files to a floppy disk and use "mount /mnt/floppy" as
root, but it gave me some error message. Can anyone help me for solving this
problem? Thanks!
Shi
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From: Brad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Restoring LILO
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 23:53:51 +1100
Patrick
I just went through LILO hell, so perhaps i can shed some wisdom on your
problem.
Firstly, although you cannot boot from you Linux cd, I assume you can still
read it from windows. (If you can't then stop reading here).
Make sure you have a blank floppy disk ready.
Go to windows and load a command prompt. (Make sure the linux cd is in the
drive.). Change to cdrom and have a look around. (dir). Is there an images
folder? This is good. In it you should see a file called 'boot.img'.
Now go back out of that directory and search the cd for a file called rawrite.
Could be in the dosutils folder.
Type...
rawrite -h
(This will show you the syntax that this command. Must learn this stuff)
Put you empty floppy in the a: drive.
Now type
rawrite -f d:\images\boot.img -d a: (assuming again the d: is you
cdrom drive.)
This command will take the disk image 'boot.img' and write it to to a: drive.
This disk is bootable. Leave it in the drive and restart the computer.
(Now, this is where my help might be incorrect as my LILO problem was with
Redhat 6.0 so perhaps the boot disk is different. I'm sure someone will
correct me if i'm wrong.)
Once you have booted off the floppy disk, is there a 'boot:' prompt at the
bottom of the screen? I hope so. At the prompt type...
linux single root=/dev/hdXXX initrd=
(thanks again bob)
...where XXX is the drive with your linux root drive. (Mind was hdb1)
This should boot up you linux drive.
Once your in, find lilo. Good chance it will be in the /sbin directory. cd to
it and type ./lilo
If all goes well, lilo will be reinstalled. You may then sing and dance. I
did.
I do hope thiis helps .
Brad
Patrick Home wrote:
> I have Linux (Redhat 5.2) in my PC which is also running Windows 98.
> Recently, I had to format the DOS partition after it had crashed. After
> formatting, I loaded Windows 98. Unfortunately, after formating the DOS
> partition and reloading Win98, the LILO operating system selector
> disappeared and now I cannot access Linux at all. I tried booting through
> the Linux CD so that I can reload LILO but something has gone wrong with
> the CD. The computer is not able to read the CD at all though CD looks ok
> and clean. I dont even have a Linux boot floppy, because I never thought
> that CDs also get spoiled with age.
>
> How do I get to access the Linux again in my PC? How to get the LILO back?
> Is it possible to load the LILO in the Windows environment and make it
> operational on reboot?
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/
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From: Brad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Restoring LILO
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 23:57:16 +1100
Of course, had I read your post properly I would have seen that you can't read
the cd at all. In that case I assume you can get the boot.img and the rawrite
executable from somwhere on the net. Maybe the Redhat site.
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From: "Buck Turgidson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Memory Not Recognized
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 13:01:58 GMT
I got it to recognize a total of 79348 by typing mem=80m at the lilo prompt.
However, it still doesn't recognize the command in lilo.conf. Is there
something syntactically incorrect about it?
Buck Turgidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:MyJB4.12960$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I installed RedHat 6.1 on an IBM PC 350, which counts all 80MB upon
booting.
> I also just upgraded the BIOS, and added append="mem=80M" to lilo.conf.
But
> it only sees 64 MB, no matter what I do.
>
> Any thoughts as to what to try next?
>
> free summary
> -------------------
>
> [root@lacalena /etc]# free
> total used free shared buffers cached
> Mem: 64136 34168 29968 25496 3284 20492
> -/+ buffers/cache: 10392 53744
> Swap: 116888 0 116888
>
>
> lilo.conf
> -----------
> [root@lacalena /etc]# cat lilo.conf
> boot=/dev/hda
> map=/boot/map
> install=/boot/boot.b
> prompt
> timeout=50
> default=linux
> append="mem=80M"
>
> image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.12-20
> label=linux
> initrd=/boot/initrd-2.2.12-20.img
> read-only
> root=/dev/hda8
>
>
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From: kev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Netscape woes: Bus error
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 13:03:14 +0000
Hi,
After keeling over and dying (nothing unusual there ;), I tried to start
Netscape up again, but it just died whenever I brought up a Messenger
window (browsing seemed OK). To find any error messages I tried starting
it from the command line with "netscape-communicator -messenger", and it
just died instantly with "Bus error". I was forced to reboot to make
Netscape work again :o(
How can I avoid this error?
thanks,
- Kev
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