Linux-Misc Digest #935, Volume #19 Fri, 23 Apr 99 19:13:08 EDT
Contents:
Re: CD-R filesystems (Rod Smith)
Re: epson stylus 600 printer driver ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: HP CD-Writer on NT ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: fetchpop 1.9: Error getting LASt status of read mail (William Burrow)
Re: problems with modules under linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Remote root access (jason)
Netscape Plug-In To Display MS-Word (DOC) Files? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Remote root access (Matt Denton)
Re: [HELP] Savage 3D/PCI 10/100mbps card/SBLive 128 card (asokabuddha)
AFBACKUP: full_backup not working w/ftape (Frank Miles)
Re: Opinions on KDE? (Kun Li)
threads under linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
What would you recommend? (kunnip)
CD With Windows Joliet extensions (Sjoerd)
problems with installing newer library ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Backspace going nuts under X?!? (Paul Kimoto)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: CD-R filesystems
Date: 23 Apr 1999 14:53:55 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Posted and mailed]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore) writes:
> On Thu, 22 Apr 1999 19:46:52 -0700,
> jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > FWIW, if you use mkhybrid rather than mkisofs, it's also possible to
>> > create a CD that includes Joliet, Rock Ridge, and MacOS's HFS, all in one.
>> > This can be very handy sometimes.
>>
>> Oh, so these filesystems can all coexist on the same CD in the same
>> space,...talking about the same files? Is there anything that would
>> make this unreadable on other operating systems?
>
> That's why I used the terms I did: Joliet does not write a new
> filesystem, per se. It merely writes an alternative index to the same
> filesystem.
Sometimes true, sometimes not. All the CD-R burning packages I've seen do
it this way, but Joliet *IS* a complete filesystem in itself, and it can
point to files that aren't seen by any other filesystem on the disc. As I
mentioned in my earlier post, there ARE commercial CDs that have only a
README file when viewed as ISO-9660, but that contain a completely
different set of files when viewed using Joliet.
> If you have, say, 600M worth of files to write to a CD, this can be an
> important distinction. If you use mkisofs's option to build both
> Joliet and Rockridge extensions, the media will be readable as iso9660
> (though expect some interesting filenames if the filenames are similar
> since they'll be mashed a bit), Rockridge and Joliet. The only thing
> that is different is that Joliet and Rockridge add alternative indexes
> to the same files.
Correct, but Joliet doesn't depend on the ISO-9660 indexes or disc
structure. It's an independent filesystem, though its indexes point to
the same files as do the ISO-9660 indexes. This is in contrast to Rock
Ridge, which is a set of extensions to ISO-9660. If you're familiar with
FAT/VFAT, Rock Ridge is sort of like the VFAT extensions to FAT, at least
conceptually (the details are COMPLETELY different, though).
> HFS is a different beast altogether:
No it's not, though it's often USED differently....
> it's not an extension to iso9660,
> but a replacement for it. So to put 600M worth of files in both iso9660
> (which would include Rockridge/Joliet) and HFS would take two CDs.
Nope. If you use the mkhybrid program, you can get a single CD that
contains the same files in all three filesystems (ISO-9660, Joliet, and
HFS). Each file is present on the disc only once, indexed by three
distinct sets of filesystem indexes, so you can have 600MB worth of files
accessible from all three filesystems. Some other programs (like the
Windows program Nero) will burn entirely split filesystems, as you
describe.
Let's see if I can manage some ASCII "art." You'll need a monospaced font
to view this properly:
=========================================================================
| H | 9660 | Joliet | HFS | Data files |
=========================================================================
The above represents a CD layout as created by mkhybrid. "H" represents
header information needed by any CD. This information also notifies the
OS of what filesystems are on the CD, and where to go to find them.
"9660" is the ISO-9660 filesystem structures -- the directories,
filenames, etc. "Joliet" is the same for the Joliet filesystem. "HFS"
is the same for the HFS filesystem. "Data files" are the data on the
CD. Each of the 9660, HFS, and Joliet areas points to these data files,
and each of these systems just indicates that the space occupied by the
other filesystems is empty. (I don't know if the actual ordering of data
is precisely as I've laid out here; it may or may not be.)
Here's a hypothetical triple-filesystem CD as laid out by another software
package:
==========================================================================
| H | 9660 | 9660 Data | Shared Data | Joliet | J. Data | HFS | HFS Data |
==========================================================================
Again, I don't claim that the exact layout is what any package would
produce. We've got the same "9660," "Joliet," and "HFS" filesystem
structure areas here, but three data areas. "Shared Data" contains data
files used by some combination of ISO-9660, Joliet, and HFS filesystems,
while "9660 Data," "Joliet Data," and "HFS Data" contain data pointed to
only by those filesystems. This sort of layout is theoretically
possible, but I'm not sure if discs like this actually exist. I know
that discs like this, but minus the HFS sections, or like this but using
shared data for Joliet and ISO-9660 with entirely separate HFS structures
and data files, do exist.
In all of these cases, Rock Ridge can be added. I don't know whether the
Rock Ridge data exists inside the ISO-9660 filesystem structure area or
inside the ISO-9660-accessible data area, or both. Rock Ridge is tied to
ISO-9660 either way, though, while neither Joliet nor HFS necessarily is.
This is why I call both Joliet and HFS separate filesystems, while Rock
Ridge is not.
In practice, most commercial dual HFS/ISO-9660 CDs do it the way you
describe. I don't know how most Mac CD-R programs do it, but if they do
it the same way, I'm sure that combination is why you believe HFS and
Joliet are necessarily different in this respect. They aren't. They're
precisely the same conceptually, in this context. (HFS is also a
read/write disk filesystem, of course, whereas Joliet is a read-only CD
filesystem, and naturally they're completely different internally, but
none of this is particularly relevant for this discussion.)
--
Rod Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.channel1.com/users/rodsmith
NOTE: Remove the "uce" word from my address to mail me
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: epson stylus 600 printer driver
Date: 23 Apr 1999 07:41:18 -0400
The Graphical Gnome <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Second, get Alladin's GhostScript 5.10. It will translate from
> >postscript or PDF to printer's language, and there are options as
> >resolution,
> >etc. I use this one. The drawback is that you have to translate anything
> >you
> >printf (except ASCII) to postscript; at least here this is no big deal, as
> >95% of my printings are in ps.
>
> The bigest drawback is dat it only has a res of 360x360.
>
> How can I go to 720 or even 1440.
Uh? With the uniprint driver, you can do that. I normally don't go
higher than 720x720, think you need glossy paper for higher. I have
5.10, read the doc for the UNI driver.
--
Tom Evans
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: HP CD-Writer on NT
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 15:55:53 GMT
This is the VERY long and drawn out way. Mount it as vfat instead of
dos, and it will work. I had this same probelm with mounting my win9*
partition at first. I told mount it was a fat system, and it loded it
as fat 16. Vfat has support for both the actuall vfat windows95
virtual fat32, and for the actuall fat32 that comes with 98 and NT.
Hope this helps! Go ahead and burn thouse cds!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Burrow)
Subject: Re: fetchpop 1.9: Error getting LASt status of read mail
Date: 23 Apr 1999 16:39:55 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:31:57 GMT,
Anthony Borla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I recently installed fetchpop-1.9-2.i386.rpm on my RedHat 5.2 system.
>
>Installation was a breeze. I checked the $HOME/.fetchhost file that was
>produced, and it contains the correct entry for my ISP's mail server.
...
>fetchpop 1.9pl1 release, by Seung-Hong Oh.
>using mailbox folder /var/spool/mail/root
>[-Error-] Getting status of LAST read mail. Disconnecting from the pop
>server.
>
>As well, checking $? indicates a return code of 6.
...
>Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Get fetchmail. Fetchpop has not been maintained in a long time and
contains bugs. It might be worthwhile to update it, but most everyone
just picked up fetchmail instead.
--
William Burrow -- New Brunswick, Canada o
Copyright 1999 William Burrow ~ /\
~ ()>()
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: problems with modules under linux
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 14:34:48 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Michael J. Parmeley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Make sure "depmod -a" is run in one of your startup scripts (I am not
> sure were OpenLinux keeps them).
> If it is use "modprobe" instead of insmod. By using modprobe you can
> probably disregard those unresolved symbol messages you get. modprobe
> takes care of module dependacies.
I finally figured out how to properly use modules. The [real] problem was my
ignorance of how modules work. Not anymore.. Thanks!
---
Dustin Puryear
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From: jason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Remote root access
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 14:39:12 -0400
What did you put in your /etc/securetty? Lines like:
ttyp1
ttyp2
ttyp3
...
should work. As a (better) workaround, just log in as a normal user, and 'su'
to root.
As for ftp, look in your /etc/ftpusers file. Anyone in there can NOT ftp in
to the machine, so remove (or comment out) users, e.g. root, for whom you wish
to allow ftp access.
-jason
(to reply via email, make the appropriate substitution in my email address)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Netscape Plug-In To Display MS-Word (DOC) Files?
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 18:46:06 GMT
I often get people emailing me MS-Word documents. Is anyone selling a
plug-in for MS-Word that can display these emails in the Netscape
Communicator mail window (or at least allow me to see the document after
double-clicking on them, without requiring additional clicks to go through
menus, etc)? It would be even better if it gave me an ASCII version to use
in drafting responses...
/ivo welch
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matt Denton)
Subject: Re: Remote root access
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 12:20:57 -0700
In article <7fqd8e$a1h$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I need the correct setup to allow remote root login to my RH5.1 Linux system.
> A coworker using Digital UNIX said to add ptys to the /etc/securettys file.
> My /etc/securetty file had tty1-tty8 in it, so I added ptys to the bottom, but
> it did not work. I need remote access for ftp and telnet.
You need to comment out the CONSOLE=/dev/console line in
/etc/defaults/login to allow remote login.
--
Matt Denton
San Francisco, USA
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From: asokabuddha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: [HELP] Savage 3D/PCI 10/100mbps card/SBLive 128 card
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 00:21:28 +0800
At present, the official Xfree86 X-server not support Savage 3D. But
you can find
an unofficial X-server at s3.nextmill.com or upgrade to kernel 2.2 and
then upgrade to VESA 2.0, this is the way to make Voodoo Banshee, Trio3D
work.
Matt wrote:
> Help...
>
> Does Linux support the Savage 3D 8Mb graphics card ?
>
> The Soundblaster Live 128 also ?
>
> And a PCI EN9113TDX 10/100TX STP Pnp, full duplex, DEC network card ?
>
> Many thanks
>
> Matt
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank Miles)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,linux.debian.user,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: AFBACKUP: full_backup not working w/ftape
Date: 23 Apr 1999 20:04:59 GMT
full_backup ... properly loads the right device driver modules,
and the tape driver _starts_ to run. It soon halts, though,
and nothing has been written to tape.
cartis 1 and label_tape (think that's the right name) ran
seemingly successfully.
Once halted after 10 to 15 minutes of waiting, afbackup e-mails
me a message that it was unable to operate the tape drive
(sorry, forget exact wording). full_backup is being run by
root, so permissions should not be an issue.
The ftape home page says that afbackup is supposed to work with
the ftape driver.
'tob' works, but afbackup seems more appropriate for my nascent
home-network.
Any thoughts as to what might be wrong -- would be much appreciated.
I've tried both the current Debian/slink version as well as
downloading & compiling the original source.
-frank
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From: Kun Li <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Opinions on KDE?
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 20:07:10 GMT
On my machine, sometimes when KDE starts, a process (maudio) runs wild and
takes all the CPU time it can use. After killing it, KDE runs fine on my K6-
233/128MB/4MB.
For resolution, did you try Xconfigurator or XF86Setup?
Kun
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
James Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've just installed KDE/Linux today on Dell 333 with 128 meg Ram and 8meg
video.
> I'm
> wondering why everything runs extremely sluggish (windows and browser scroll
in
> particular); Also, is there any way to change the resolution. I've got a 21
inch
> monitor
> and I'm not sure what the resolution is set on (I had to fudge a little
loading
> OpenLinux)
> something in the realm of 1280x1084 or so. At any rate, I can barely read the
> font and
> the web browser looks like a credit card (exaggeration slight).
> Many thanks,
>
> james
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: threads under linux
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 18:14:11 GMT
I am attempting to compile OpenLDAP under OpenLinux 1.3. The configure script
is throwing me out when it checks for the threads library. I installed pthread
with my distribution (/usr/lib/libpthreads.so). What do I need to do in order
to get OpenLDAP working? Anyone had this problem?
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From: kunnip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: What would you recommend?
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 18:24:44 GMT
Hi,
I'd like to set up Linux on my desktop and it'd be my first try. The
whole purpose is to get a feel of Linux and to compare its performance
with Windows. I'm a totally novice for Linux, but very interested in
the OS.
I'm looking for a very friendly-user app that serves basic functions
like Word, Spreedsheet, Internet access, email, etc.. I've heard a lot
about Caldera OpenLinux 2.2. Is it really recommended? What are the
other options?
Thanks!
Thanks!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sjoerd)
Subject: CD With Windows Joliet extensions
Date: 23 Apr 1999 18:19:16 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Haai there,
A colleague off mine downloaded a fresh slackware distribution and burned
it on a CD for me.
This CD is with Windows Joliet extensions and all files are shown in
capitals, so the setup script won't see the distribution.
Abyone an idea how to mount the CD so that the setup script will work?
I allready tried to mount the CD with the option check=r, but it only
displays the files in lowercase and still the setup script won't run.
Thanks in advance
Greetings,
Sjoerd
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: problems with installing newer library
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 22:29:15 GMT
I use redhat 5.1 (kernel 2.2.5) I need to install the package libjpeg version
6b-5. I have on my system libjpeg 6b-3. I tried the following command: rpm
-Uvh <filename> That didn't succeed, I got the following error: libjpeg.so.6
is needed by .... libjpeg.so.6 is needed by etc.
How do I get rid off libjepg 6b-3 and how do I install libjpeg 6b-5?
Just taking it away with package management in the control panel doesn't work.
Please email me your answer, thank you!
Bert
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: Backspace going nuts under X?!?
Date: 23 Apr 1999 14:55:12 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <PR1U2.3802$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, test wrote:
> I just
> installed RH5.2/KDE on a new machine at the office... and the backspace key
> works for SOME applications and not others. On the applications that it
> doesn't work for, I have to use the arrow key to back up and then use the
> Delete key (which is driving me NUTS!!!).
Warning -- I don't use KDE, and the situation might be different there.
However:
Usually programs like Netscape pay attention to Motif's "osfDelete" and
"osfBackSpace" keysyms, which apparently perform "delete character under
cursor" and "destructive backspace". (Garden variety programs like bash,
xterm, emacs, seem to pay attention to the "Delete" and "BackSpace"
keysyms.)
I like the key marked "BackSpace" to perform the "destructive backspace"
function, and the key marked "Delete" to generate control-h for the
purposes of emacs and the like, so I put something like this in .xinitrc:
xmodmap -e "keycode 22 = Delete osfBackSpace"
# "keycode 22" is the key labelled "BackSpace"
xmodmap -e "keycode 107 = BackSpace"
# "keycode 107" is the key labelled "Delete"
(and I do "stty erase ^?").
See also:
Keyboard and Console HOWTO
http://www.cc.gatech.edu/linux/LDP/HOWTO/Keyboard-and-Console-HOWTO.html
(and other mirrors)
XKeyCaps home page
http://www.jwz.org/xkeycaps/
--
Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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