Linux-Misc Digest #935, Volume #26               Sat, 27 Jan 01 05:13:03 EST

Contents:
  Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: how do I mount my tape drive? (Yves Bellefeuille)
  Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  help with error messages...and cable modem help (NoClue)
  Re: Protect yourself!  I got hacked by the Ramen worm (Andres Kuusk)
  Re: bash2 on Redhat6.2 (Faux_Pseudo)
  Re: Far too big image for my screen, PLEASE help (Jesper Petersen)
  Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Glitch)
  Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Glitch)
  Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Glitch)
  Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Glitch)

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 03:00:59 -0500

Grant Edwards wrote:
> 
> >> |> >> > Maybe there's a good reason for literacy tests after all.
> >> |> >>
> >> |> >> Perhaps.  But ill put my verbal SAT score up against yours or anyone
> >> |> >> elses, any time.
> >> |>
> >> |> > You mean  << I'll >> and  << else's >>?   ;)
> >> |>
> >> |> No, I meant exactly what I typed.  See dejanews for my multiple arguments
> >> |> for the granular use of capitals and contractions in informal prose.
> >
> >> Oh, that's *really* authoritative.  It's pretty sad how lazy people have become
> >> or ignorant of correct grammer when it comes to "prose".
> >
> >"grammar".
> 
> Now, if somebody would compare Bill Gates to Hitler, we can officially
> declare this thread deceased.

FUCK YOU and anybody else who invokes "Godwin's Law"


Hitler merely wanted to:
A) Seek revenge for the humiliating Treaty of Versailles (ended WW1, but
  placed the blame, and fiscal responsibility -- in war reparations to be
  payed to the allies in gold -- for a war which was:
  1) sparked by an assassination in the centuries old civil-war in what
     was most recently, Yugoslavia,
  and
  2) which became an international conflict when Russia entered the fray,
        thereby triggering a chain-reaction of mutual-defense treaties...
        which is to say...Germany was no more responsible for the war than
        England or France.
  by
  3) invading the most obnoxiously-behaving Versailles signatory countries
        (Poland and France), and annexing those lands with large Germanic
        populations (Czechloslovakia, Austria, etc.), culminating in

  4) A unified Europe under the rule of Berlin (The ultimate repayment for
        the insult of the Treaty of Versailles, which caused excruciating
        poverty in Germany in the 1920's)

[This may seem a little extreme, but reasonable, considering the how
outrageous a document the Treaty of Versailles is.   Basically, you'd
better not starve a nation for years AND demand that they pay you more
money than 10x the entire national treasury AND confiscate approx 1/3
of the nation's territory...as punishment for a war which they didn't start
...and expect that it's citizens won't grow to resent to the point of utter
hatred those countries which sat on the other side of the negotiations table.]

Basically, this aspect of WW2 most likely would have occurred no matter who
was in charge of Germany.

B) Eliminate Communism.  (Even a stopped clock is right twice per day).

C) Kill all who his twisted mind had deemed "genetically unfit" to live
   another day.

All of this was propelled by

D) Manufacturing a personality cult.

Hitler was quickly recognized as a threat in some sectors, but not widely
feared until the the Luftwaffe and Army started killing people.





Conversely, in a 1994 interview, Gates proclaimed that one of his goals is
to collect a surcharge for EVERY financial transaction on the planet.
Translation: he wants to pick everybody's pocket, even if it's
settling for one penny at a time.

To do this, Gates is employing the same strategy Hitler did:
        manufacturing a personality cult.

In light of this, Hitler was not nearly as dangerous, as he started killing
people BEFORE he had control outside of Germanic territory.

Conversely, Gates' is to get his tentacles into every last community
on the face of the earth.  At that point, what is to stop him from
becoming something like a character in the Book of Revelation?




> 
> --
> Grant Edwards                   grante             Yow!  I Know A Joke!!
>                                   at
>                                visi.com


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 03:08:56 -0500

John Hasler wrote:
> 
> Grant Edwards writes:
> > Now, if somebody would compare Bill Gates to Hitler, we can officially
> > declare this thread deceased.
> 
> Hitler was a much better public speaker than Bill Gates is.
> 

Bill Gates lies even more often Hitler did  (quite a feat, eh?)

Oh...and FUCK ANYBODY who tries to invoke "Godwin's (Shitheaded) Law".


> There.  I compared them.  Ok?
> --
> John Hasler
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Dancing Horse Hill
> Elmwood, Wisconsin


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yves Bellefeuille)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: how do I mount my tape drive?
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 03:12:52 -0500
Reply-To: Yves Bellefeuille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, "Darren and Marla Welson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> I am adding a tape drive to an existing AHA-1542 SCSI controller.  I 
> have one HD already configured and working, but I cannot figure out how 
> to access my tape drive.  I have tried:
>
> mount -t ext2 -r /dev/sdb /mnt/tape
> mount -t ext2 /dev/tape /mnt/tape

You can mount file systems, but not physical devices. A tape drive
doesn't have a file system on it, therefore you can't mount it. You have
to access it using "tar" or a similar program.

Posted in comp.os.linux.hardware and comp.os.linux.misc only -- don't
post in too many groups, please! Furthermore, comp.os.linux,
comp.os.linux.questions and comp.os.linux.redhat are "bogus"
newsgroups -- they're not on the "canonical" list of comp.* newsgroups.

-- 
Yves Bellefeuille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ottawa, Canada
Francais / English / Esperanto
Fight Spam! Join CAUCE cost-free: http://www.cauce.org/

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: 27 Jan 2001 00:22:53 -0800

John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Mark Bratcher writes:
> > So he _was_ indeed a native born American and didn't move out until his
> > post-doc years.
> 
> If the situation was reversed I'd say he was an American, so I'd say he is
> Dutch now.  Europeans will probably disagree.
> -- 
> John Hasler
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Dancing Horse Hill
> Elmwood, Wisconsin

So what's Linus Torvalds?  A Swedish speaking Finn or an American?
Or is this question a cousin to consistency?  Another hobgoblin for
small minds?
-- 
Replace ragwind.localdomain with rahul for a working email address

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: 27 Jan 2001 00:30:09 -0800

"Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
   ...<snip>...
> > 
> > Second, we've all heard stories about Stephen Foster and Edgar Allan
> > Poe, and more recently black musicians, getting ripped off for their
> > famous works.  Copyright law was written to protect.  It used to be
> > good for 17 years I think with the possibility of extension.  Now it's
> > been increased so much that the pendulum has swung the other way.
> > Mickey Mouse might have become public domain, or "Rhapsody In Blue".
> > There were people who were laboriously typing old encyclopedias into
> > machine readable form to become part of a public database who got
> 
> 
> Sounds pretty inefficient when you consider that a 300 dpi scanner
> and optical character recognition software can be obtained for US $150,
> speeding up the process by about 100x.
> 
> 

Hmm, I was going from memory and a bit careless.  They may have been
using scanners, though even that is laborious.  I know that there is
a project or maybe 2 to have sort of free open encyclopedia unencumbered,
it was mentioned in slashdot and advogato recently.  The Nupedia at
http://www.nupedia.com/, but I digress (which almost never happens on
usenet.)

-- 
Replace ragwind.localdomain with rahul for a working email address



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NoClue)
Subject: help with error messages...and cable modem help
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 08:32:37 GMT

newaliases: fatal: My hostname c123456-a is not a fully qualifiedname
- set 
myhostname or mydomain in /etc/postfix/main.cf 
Jan 27 00:32:18 c123456-a postfix: postmap: fatal: My hostname
c985883-a is
not a fully qualified name


 modprobe: Note: /etc/conf.modules is more recent than
/lib/modules/2.2.15-4mdk/modules.dep 

insmod: Note: /etc/conf.modules is more recent than
/lib/modules/2.2.15-4mdk/modules.dep
Jan 27 00:33:04 c123456-a insmod:
/lib/modules/2.2.15-4mdk/net/pcnet32.o:
invalid parameter parm_io 
Jan 27 00:33:04 c123456-a insmod:
/lib/modules/2.2.15-4mdk/net/pcnet32.o: insmod eth0 failed  

this happens when I type ifup eth0: Delaying eth0 initialization.


postmap: fatal: My hostname c123456-a is not a fully qualified name -
set
myhostname or mydomain in /etc/postfix/main.cf 

Ok whats going on here, i'm using mdk7.1

Yea cable modem wont connect yet...Tried about everything thrown from
under the sun at me...

thanks

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andres Kuusk)
Subject: Re: Protect yourself!  I got hacked by the Ramen worm
Date: 27 Jan 2001 08:42:45 GMT

"ne..." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

>><smart ass comment>
>>
>>Um... if you have to connect to the Internet to check for security
>>updates... how are you supposed check for security updates before
>>connecting to the Internet? :)
>>
>></smart ass comment>
> <smart ass reply with smiley>
> 
> Use windows
> 
> </smart ass reply with smiley>
> 

<smart ass reply with smiley>

And enjoy I_love_you etc etc etc

</smart ass reply with smiley>


Andres Kuusk
Tartu Observatory, Estonia, 
met last virus BL (before linux :)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Faux_Pseudo)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.redhat
Subject: Re: bash2 on Redhat6.2
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 09:11:32 GMT

--(Once apon a time, in alt.os.linux,)--
                --([EMAIL PROTECTED] said it like only they can.)--
>Hi,
>
>Redhat6.2 comes with two bash'es : /bin/bash and /bin/bash2
>/bin/bash is the default. Should I install a recent bash-2 RPM that will
>probably overwrite /bin/bash or will it disrupt the system?
>
well i dont deal with rpms any more so i dont know how it will react

the hard way
but if you compile bash2 the executable will be named bash
what i would do is compile bash2 from the tarball
once you have it compiled sucsefully rpm -e bash bash2
and then install the compiled one

the easy way
use linuxconfig
go into the user details and change bash to bash2 for each user.

the stupid way
f=/etc/passwd && sed 's,:/bin/bash,:/bin/bash2,' $f > $f~ \
&& cat $f~ > $f


-- 
--(UIN=66618055)--
--([EMAIL PROTECTED]:45_/home/faux)-- cat .sig
GUI's are for slackers.  ibpconf.sh 6 on freshmeat.net  
The easiest way to customize the command line.  By Faux_Pseudo

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From: Jesper Petersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Far too big image for my screen, PLEASE help
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 09:42:57 GMT

>Please be patient with those who are trying to help, but being extremely 
>impatient with you.  
>
>Trying to get linux to run on a laptop is probably the biggest challenge of 
>all.  If you go to the Linux Documentation Project (www.linuxdoc.org), you 
>will probably find Links to a number of resources, one being the Laptop 
>Volunteer Database, which may have your laptop listed, and what it took 
>for someone to set up Linux on it.
>
>What you're seeing now is what happens when X cannot find any resolutions 
>which the monitor/video chip hardware can use due to timing problems. So it 
>defaults to 320x200, or something like that.  Until you get the proper X 
>server configured, your installation is probably useless in the graphical 
>mode.  As far as things being "difficult to manipulate" in a text mode, 
>difficult is relative (and this is Unix, after all), you might spend a couple 
>of days learning "text mode operations", as it will come in handy in the 
>future.
>
>Perhaps another option is to simply set up XF86_VGA16, which is what the 
>graphical installer of RH uses--works on practically anything beyond a TV set.
>Unfortunately, I don't believe it goes beyond 640x480, and 16 colors is not 
>very "photogenic".
>
>As one of the responses stated, RH 6.0 is far too old to have support for 
>recent laptops.  You'd be best to start with RH 6.2.

Thanks for a very good answer. What I read out of this is that it wouldn't
help to edit the XF86Config file (is that correct?). For me it seems to be a
complicated task to get it up running once I've installed RH 6 instead I'll
try to find RH 7.

Thanks very much
Jesper


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Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 04:10:53 -0500
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else

Harlan Grove wrote:

> In article <94snje$ekf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.) wrote:
> ....
> 
>> Wasnt there something about a government BY the people and FOR the
>> people written down somewhere?
> 
> ....
> 
> The US is a republic not a democracy. Kindly read the Federalist Papers
> for the rationale behind not trusting the populace. It has a government
> of laws, and the laws in the state of Florida were fairly clear, and
> the polling stations had signs giving instructions that voters should
> make sure that their ballots were punched through and to remove hanging
> chads. And if they double-punched, they could ask for new ballot papers.
> 
> Maybe there's a good reason for literacy tests after all.
> 
> 

and lie detector tests---this past administration would have burnt the 
machines up after lying so much.


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Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 04:14:35 -0500
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else

. wrote:

> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Harlan Grove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> In article <94snje$ekf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>>  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.) wrote:
>> ...
>> 
>>> Wasnt there something about a government BY the people and FOR the
>>> people written down somewhere?
>> 
>> ...
> 
> 
>> The US is a republic not a democracy. Kindly read the Federalist Papers
>> for the rationale behind not trusting the populace. It has a government
>> of laws, and the laws in the state of Florida were fairly clear, and
>> the polling stations had signs giving instructions that voters should
>> make sure that their ballots were punched through and to remove hanging
>> chads. And if they double-punched, they could ask for new ballot papers.
> 
> 
> Ah, you dont have a very good understanding of what happened in florida.
> 
> You're one of those insane federalists who believes that his government
> is incapable of doing any sort of wrong, arent you?
> 
> I'll bet you believe in god too, dontcha?
> 
> Thats very sweet.
> 

yeah <sarcasm> what a horrid idea to actually believe in God huh? <sarcasm>

Considering the US was founded on Christian beliefs I find this normal 
and hopeful that people might actually have a set of morals not based on 
their own ideology (which would be inherently imperfect given we are human).


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Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 04:20:45 -0500
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else

. wrote:

> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Mark Bratcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> "." wrote:
>> 
>>> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Harlan Grove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> As for corrupt legislators, vote 'em out. "Oh but those nasty evil
>>>> corporations give so much money for TV ads." Tough. Go door to door if
>>>> you believe in something. Get others to do the same. Incite the
>>>> electorate. Don't bitch & moan. Tom Foley, then the Speaker of the US
>>>> House of Representatives, should have had a safe seat in congress, but
>>>> he was voted out in 1994 (not saying that was a good thing or not). It
>>>> can be done, but it does take work.
>>> 
>>> Bullshit.
>>> 
>>> As has been shown beyond the shadow of a doubt in the latest elections
>>> in the united states, your vote DOES NOT COUNT.
>>> 
>>> Happy dreamworld,
>>> 
>>> -----.
>> 
> 
>> Sour grapes? You sound like your guy didn't get in. ;-)
> 
> 
> I despise them both. :)
> 

why is having a guy as President that actually has a universal set of 
morals such a bad thing?  Some people view having a good moral 
background as more important than being able to supposedly invent the 
Internet or 'putting the economy back on track'. They are only his 
morals in the fact that he has embraced them, just like most other 
Christians in the world. You can't say he shouldn't share them b/c they 
are God's to share, not his. If Bush dies those morals still exist, even 
if a lot of people like making their own.


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Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 04:22:58 -0500
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else

. wrote:

> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
>> Certain countries (Norway comes to mind) are very friendly towards
>> choice and freedom, but not 'Europe' in general.
> 
> 
> Netherlands: all the freedom of norway with 1. half the taxes and 
> 2. more to do.
    ^^^^^^^^

red lights hurt my eyes :P


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