Linux-Misc Digest #935, Volume #20 Mon, 5 Jul 99 21:13:11 EDT
Contents:
ApplixWare ("AccessNet")
Re: Running another OS under Linux (Andy Backa)
Re: Help Netscape 3.0 needed for Linux (Sean Yamamoto)
Re: cable modems and os2 warp 4 and linux (Joe Ricci)
Re: Kernel compile: 'make dep' errors: .h files are not being found... ("H. Michael
Smith, Jr.")
Re: Lynx And Proxy Server (help) ("Brett R. Rosselle")
MagicSound 3D PCI Audio Accelerator ("Uncensor")
Anyone got SuSe 6.1 working with HP Laserjet 4L? (Tim Sanders)
Re: first/second/third world (Peter Seebach)
Re: Linux systems- Poor security (Germ)
Re: cable modems and os2 warp 4 and linux (Mark Klebanoff)
Re: open systems?!? Re: Why does Apple not cooperate with Be? (Odd H. Sandvik)
Re: Gnome and window manager (Charles M)
Re: Linux vs Solaris (Dave)
Re: logins (Johan Kullstam)
Re: sendmail hangs at boot ("m.nine.six")
Re: Executing Linux Commands from Perl (Marc Mutz)
Re: Help Netscape 3.0 needed for Linux (Marc Mutz)
Re: Recommended First Linux Books- online and off ("Ryan T. Rhea")
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From: "AccessNet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ApplixWare
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 19:15:55 -0400
Can anyone please tell me what is the latest version of Applixware Office
package?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andy Backa)
Subject: Re: Running another OS under Linux
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 23:04:21 GMT
In article <7lp8dk$j39$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Deryk
Barker) wrote:
> Michel Bardiaux ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> : "Christopher A. Gaul" wrote:
>:>
>:> The product is called VM-Ware. It allows you to run several OS's under
>:> Linux. Including Windows 95/98/NT, Solaris, BSD, and other Linux's. In fact,
>:> I am typing this message to you from Windows 98, running in a VM-Ware
>:> session under SuSE Linux.
>:>
>:> The company is VM-Ware and can be found at http://www.vmware.com/
>: What are the security implications of running VMWARE? (Since it runs a
>: normal version of whatever OS, which necessarily contains drivers and
>: other
>: privileged-mode code, I suspect the installation must open *some* hole
>: in the Linux kernel. I rather shudder at the idea of a security hole
>: with Microsnort stuff on the other side...) The FAQ on the vmware site
>: says nothing about security.
>:
>: If no part of VMWARE runs in kernel mode, than it must implement some
>: emulation, which is going to be slowwww... How *exactly* does it work?
>
> My understanding is that it provides a complete virtual x86, with the
> consequent overhead of intercepting and simulating kernel mode
> instructions. Like VM/370. (Except that wasn't an x86...)
>
> At least the user mode virtual machine is the same as the real one.
OK, but how flexible is the VM?
Here's my scenario: I want to run Linux as my primary OS, and using
VMWare/Win98 for Office apps (Office97, Visio, etc...). I also want to be
able to multi-boot into *pure* Win98 for games.
The big question: do I need to install Win98 once or twice? If I can get away
with installing it once, then life would be damn sweet. If twice, then I'm
going to have to do some number crunching to figure out the best way to
partition this sucker.
Any and all help would be appreciated. Thanks.
Andy Backa The only skills I have the patience to learn are
[EMAIL PROTECTED] those that have no real application in life.
- Calvin and Hobbes
Chewey Pages: http://home.istar.ca/~chewey
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From: Sean Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help Netscape 3.0 needed for Linux
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 15:44:31 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ftp://archive:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/archive/index.html
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joe Ricci)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.setup.misc,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: cable modems and os2 warp 4 and linux
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 23:28:36 GMT
I am using shaw at home
I simply bound TCPIP to the ethernet card attached to the cable modem
and added the TCPIP settings that shaw provided for addresses.,
Works great.
Most problems are the providers not mine
On Mon, 5 Jul 1999 15:16:22, "Steve Snyder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I had cable modem service installed about 6 weeks ago. The way I use it is
> to plug the 3Com CMX cable modem into a 2nd Ethernet card on our Linux
> server. The server then acts a gateway for the LAN's client Win98 and OS/2
> Warp machines. It works great.
>
> The service is through @Home, who told me on the front end that they only
> support Win9x, WinNT and MacOS. (When the installers arrived, I told them
> just to run the cable and leave the relevant information; I'd configure the
> Linux box myself. They had no problems with that.) The software that came
> with the service is Win32-specific and includes @Home-tweaked versions of
> Internet Explorer and Netscape Communicator.
>
> You do need that custom software to configure @Home services (additional
> mailboxes, order dial-up service, etc.), but I got around this by
> installing Win95, then the @Home software, on an unused 486 machine. I've
> only needed to use this machine on the 2 occasions when I needed to make
> changes to my service.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
>
> On Mon, 05 Jul 1999 14:17:41 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >hi there
> >
> > in 2 weeks we will be getting cable internet access around here, and i
> >was wondering if there are os2 compatible cable modems (also LINUX
> >compatible) that someone could recommend, i dont know yet what ones the
> >cable co lesaes /sells but i am willing to bet that they are probably
> >WINBLOWS modems.
> >
> >and since i dont use microsucks virus testing software i need to know
> >what modem should i buy?
> >
> >
> >
> >thanks
>
>
> ***** Steve Snyder *****
>
>
>
Joe Ricci
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From: "H. Michael Smith, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kernel compile: 'make dep' errors: .h files are not being found...
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 19:14:16 -0400
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Marc Mutz wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>There is somewhere a symlink to be done. I don't have it handy, but
it
>should be in the kernel HOWTO.
>
>Marc
Thanks for the reply!
/usr/inlclude/linux->/usr/src/linux/include/linux is there.
This is the only symlink that I can find mentioned in the Kernel
HOWTO. The author makes a reference to links mentioned in Linus'
README, but I do not see this mentioned in /usr/src/linux/README. If
there should be other links, or you know of something else that I can
check, please let know.
// Michael
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Reply-To: "Brett R. Rosselle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Brett R. Rosselle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Lynx And Proxy Server (help)
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 14:47:22 -0500
Found the answer. It's the proxy line in lynx.cfg.
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Brett R. Rosselle
Bertelsmann mediaSystems
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
+1.317.542.6886 Tel
+1.317.542.6550 Fax
Brett R. Rosselle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:2n5g3.45$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi all,
>
> I searched DejaNews and didn't come up with anything. Can someone tell me
> how to get Lynx to work through a proxy server?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Brett
>
> --
> Brett R. Rosselle
> Bertelsmann mediaSystems
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> +1.317.542.6886 Tel
> +1.317.542.6550 Fax
>
>
>
>
>
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From: "Uncensor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: MagicSound 3D PCI Audio Accelerator
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 19:15:11 -0400
Hi There,
I just purchased a MagicSound 3D PCI Audio Accelerator, today. If I don't
open the box, I can return to the store within 2 week without the 15%
restocking fee.
The question I have is if this MagicSound 3D PCI Audio Accelerator is fully
supported by Linux? Can anyone point me to the site that reviews the sound
cards for Linux?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Sanders)
Subject: Anyone got SuSe 6.1 working with HP Laserjet 4L?
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 00:34:30 +0100
I recently installed SuSe 6.1, but cannot get my HPLJ4L printer to work
properly? I am getting partial printouts (typically a randomly placed
column of text), with garbage sometimes added. I have a slightly non-
standard setup, in that I am using IRQ 5 on port 0x378 (IRQ 7 is used by
a second parallel port, with a parallel scanner. I don't declare this to
Linux as the scanner is not supported). I also have a Syquest EZ135
connected to my parallel port, and the HPLJ4L is chained to it. (I've
tried taking out the EZ135 and connecting the printer directly to the
computer - same problems persist). The EZ135 works OK, via the new paride
setup.
I have installed the printer with Yast and again with apsfilter setup -
same problem with both setups.
If you have a working HPLJ4L with SuSe 6.1, can you please tell me if you
had to overcome any particular problems to get it running. Also, show the
relevant part of /etc/printcap. I may well have overlooked something
elementary, or made some simple mistake, as I am still new to Linux.
NB. I was previously running SuSE 5.2 and the HPLJ4L worked perfectly
there.
Thanks in advance,
Tim Sanders
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: first/second/third world
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Seebach)
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 22:48:35 GMT
In article <7lq3b7$m5h$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Richard Kulisz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>What is the purpose of science? To come up with a theory that describes
>the whole of reality. And what do you think I mean by the 'size' of the
>description if not the information content of the theory; the number of
>assumptions is irrelevant since you can reduce them simply by conjunction.
In other words, "information complexity" means nothing to you.
-s
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From: Germ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux systems- Poor security
Date: 5 Jul 1999 23:30:51 GMT
Agreed. Sounds like your sysadmin is padding his job by telling the
brass that linux is insecure because he can't understand it. As a unix
consultant, I see it happen all the time and it can make for severe
hostilities. What we basically have happening here is a large percentage
of high paid computer professionals don't want to(and WILL NOT) admit
that GNU/Linux or free software in general is a viable solution because
that would mean that all their "training" (MCSEs, MCPs, NCEs) are all worth
dick.
Neil Helsley wrote:
> Neither Linux or NT comes out of the box secure. If your admins are
> thinking that NT is secure out of the box, then they are in for a world
of
> hurt. Both take time and knowledge to get them to a more secure state.
> Just as many bugs are found on a NT server as comes out with Linux. I
> Believe there have been about 4 devistating bugs found in IIS 4.0 in the
> last month or two. The difference seems to be that the Linux community
is
> more willing to share the fact that "hey we messed up" than MS will (who
> seems to be more forced into fixing the problem than dedicated to fixing
> the problem).
>
> I am basically repeating what everybody else has said, but security is
what
> you put into it. A admin's job is to keep the network secure. If they
> don't want to take the time to do this, then why bother having network
> administrators in the first place?
>
> Neil
>
> Tim Philip Williams wrote:
> > A while ago we had a security breach involving multiple linux boxes and
> > as a consequence, our IT staff will probably be implementing a ban of
> > the use of Linux! I use Linux as a development workstation (although
> > I'm not a UNIX expert) ... does anyone know why the security of Linux
is
> > so bad? I assume that not all distributions are bad, but the ones with
> > poor security give Linux a very bad name ... infact they give all free
> > software a bad name .. I doubt if the IT staff will let me install
> > FreeBSD instead of Linux.
> > A very annoyed Tim (who will probably be forced to use Windows NT)
>
>
> ------------------ Posted via SearchLinux ------------------
> http://www.searchlinux.com
================== Posted via SearchLinux ==================
http://www.searchlinux.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Klebanoff)
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.setup.misc
Subject: Re: cable modems and os2 warp 4 and linux
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 23:37:53 GMT
On Mon, 5 Jul 1999 22:17:45, Irv Spalten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Mark, it isn't the nic that is sometimes the problem. Here
> in Austin, Time Warner's Road Runner Cable Modem service
> REQUIRES you to login before you can get anything. This
> requirement comes and goes at random but when the login
> server is active, you can only PING and not much else.
>
> Irv Spalten
>
I realize that. My post wasn't well-written, but if there's a problem
it's with login scripts. Otherwise they tell me that cable internet
is plain old tcp/ip
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Odd H. Sandvik)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.be.misc,comp.unix.misc
Subject: Re: open systems?!? Re: Why does Apple not cooperate with Be?
Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 20:44:36 +0200
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> I think Apple cut a deal with Motorola and IBM to only promote Apple
> operating systems and Apple hardware for desktop PowerPC systems.
> Why else is there not PowerPC clone MB suppliers? Surely there are
> enough BeOS and Linux users that would purchase these MBs? They might
> end up being somewhat pricey, but there seem like there would be a
> market for them. I talked to a fellow demostrating BeOS at a computer
> show, and he said it was primarily Apple that killed BeOS on PowerPC.
> If this is true, it's just as bad as some of the things M$ has done.
I would say that you are right. Apple killed BeOS/PPC when they killed
the Mac-clones. Apple found out they couldn't compete with the clone-
makers superior AND cheaper hardware, so they pulled the plug. Those
Motorola StarMaxes would have smoked anything from Apple ATPIT.
But ofcourse, Motorola and IBM are to blame too. When Apple played their
stunt they just bent over, instead of playing hardball (You want PPCs ?
We want clones !) like they should have.
Unfortunately mad-man Steve Jobs took over, and his reality distortion
field generator works just as good as ever. As if Apple is as evil as
MS ? Sure, they're just as bad. Just read what stunts they are pulling
to stop others from delivering G4-enabled Macs before them:
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/9906/apple-g4.shtml
Every time I hear of Apple stock dropping, or their manufacturing
problems, there is a gleeful smile on my face. They'll get what's
coming to them, just you wait ! ;-D
--
Odd H. Sandvik
Email: hensandv(AT)online.no ( note: (AT) = @ )
*Adress in "From:" field is for the SPAM bots.*
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charles M)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Gnome and window manager
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 14:33:27 -0500
In article <01bec649$2a3ff760$9b73adc1@default>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> Hi,
>
> Is it possible to start Gnome with another window manager then
> enlightenment? If so, how do I change that. What file do I have to edit? I
> have looked around in Xclients, but there I can only change the window
> manager I prefer. But where can I change the window manager Gnome is using?
>
> Reactions by e-mail please: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Sure, However right now only Enlightenment is 100% Gnome compatible.
Under the Gnome configuration tool (the toolkit icon in the menu bar)
there is a tab that takes you to window manager selection. You can also
add your window manager to an .xinitrc file in you home directory. You
can even run Gnome and KDE together to at least some extent.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.solaris
Subject: Re: Linux vs Solaris
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 19:07:36 GMT
scalability?
mission-critical?
If (when) something bad happens, who do you want your manager, your
manager's manager, etc. etc. etc. to see you standing with for
technical support?
Sun Microsystems or USENET?
Ok Ok, I know that RedHat (and others) will support Linux (great os,
btw), but for scalability and mission critical systems, you've gotta
go with the folks who have the reputation, experience, full control of
the software AND hardware, and can get their butts sued off by you if
they don't deliver.
It's gotta be Solaris over Linux. Linux just isn't tested fully at
high-end scalability yet. I read an article last month where an NT
IIS 4.0 web server handily beat Linux running Apache (and later Zeus)
web servers in nearly every category. NT! (if you can believe it!)
hope this helps,
Dave
On Mon, 5 Jul 1999 07:45:07 +0100, "Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm building a mission-critical high throughput OLTP application which
> required considerable scalability. I'm trying to choose between Linux and
> Solaris for the operating system.
>
> Does anyone have any views on this matter?
>
> Any help or advice appreciated.
>
> Thanks
>
> Paul
>
>
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Subject: Re: logins
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 05 Jul 1999 19:50:36 -0400
goldrush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> i use a stand alone linux system. i set up a user name so i wouldnt have
> to use root to do my everyday stuff.
> everything was going fine with my username until couple of days ago.
> when i typed in my username and
> password, it just refreshed the screen and came back to the sign in
> screen. i could login as root though
> and had to create another user to do my everyday stuff. does anyone know
> why i cannot login using my
> old username. i am using Redhat 6.0.
hmm look at /etc/passwd. do you still have a home directory? has
your shell changed?
--
J o h a n K u l l s t a m
[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Don't Fear the Penguin!
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From: "m.nine.six" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: sendmail hangs at boot
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 23:34:08 +0200
i had that problem also here is the answer that i get:
[sendmailhang]: If sendmail is hanging during boot, let it continue
till you get in (about 5 mins) then put localhost.localdomain RIGHT
AFTER 127.0.0.1 and before localhost in /etc/hosts
have a nice day,
alias m.nine.six....
TwoSheds wrote:
>
> Every time I boot up Linux (Red Hat 6) sendmail hangs for about
> five minutes, but it doesn't fail.
>
> Can anyone tell me what might be wrong here?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kev
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Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 23:10:30 +0200
From: Marc Mutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Executing Linux Commands from Perl
man perlfaq{,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9}
Marc
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University of Bielefeld, Dep. of Mathematics / Dep. of Physics
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Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 22:16:03 +0200
From: Marc Mutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help Netscape 3.0 needed for Linux
Netscape product archives. It has to be done over http. Check
www.netscape.com and then click download in the top navigation bar.
Marc
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University of Bielefeld, Dep. of Mathematics / Dep. of Physics
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From: "Ryan T. Rhea" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Recommended First Linux Books- online and off
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 16:39:44 -0400
Graeme Fenwick wrote:
> Hi all...
> Simple question (though I doubt the answer will be):- Which is the best
> Linux book for a (near) beginner?
> I know... this has been asked countless times before (slap me with a wet
> fish if you're sick of seeing the same question ;-), but trawling the
> archives hasn't turned up a suitable answer. So I'll try to be as specific
> as I can....
>
> I recently installed Linux (Red Hat 5.2) on my PC, and I've been using
> Linux Installation and Getting Started to do just that. It's good, but
> clearly isn't meant to be comprehensive, so what I'm after now is a book to
> help me get "into" Linux- in other words, a quality, general-purpose book.
> What I don't want is something that's..... patronising, simplistic, or
> bloated. I don't expect coverage of every conceivable Linux obscurity at the
> expense of any depth either, just something that covers the core topics in
> reasonable detail, and credits me with more than two brain cells. I thought
> about Running Linux from O'Reilly Publishing, but it's a few years old now
> unfortunately.
>
> Online (free) documentation was quite a common suggestion. Much as I
> find this sort of stuff very useful (cheaper, and usually more up-to-date),
> I still prefer the dead tree variety for day-to-day learning and reference-
> *if* they justify the cost, that is..
> Something else that got said more than once was that there are very few
> good Linux books out there, (and some of those that are available are very
> similar to online books/docs anway). If this is so, would it be better to go
> for a (general) Unix book, using the online docs and HOWTOs for
> Linux-specific stuff?
>
> How many words did it take me to ask that "simple question"? 1, 2, 3, 4,...
> whatever. ;-)
> Any help appreciated, at any rate.
>
> --
> ======================================================================
> "What do you mean, spontaneous human combustion?! Dammit! I was
> promised they'd get that Halt and Catch Fire instruction removed
> before we went into production."
> "Good job it wasn't our flagship model, Sir."
> ======================================================================
>
> Graeme Fenwick
> - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> (Don't forget to remove "BYESPAM" filter if replying by mail)
I have bought 4 or 5 books, and have a cd-rom with 4 more. Out of all those, I
have two I can recommend.
The first and most highly recommended one is 'The Complete Idiot's Guide to
Linux' by Manuel Alberto Ricart (published by Que). I know the title is
patronizing, but it is also misleading. It is very useful in covering a wide
range of topics that are need for a good grasp of linux, including backups,
admin, and recompiling kernels. It comes with Caldera and StarOffice on CD.
The second is much larger and more comprehensive, but it almost includes too
many technical details, and as It is written by many authors it lacks a smooth
continuity. It is Red Hat Linux Unleashed, published by SAMS. It comes with
Red Hat 5.2
I really do recommend the first title, despite its unfortunate title.
Sincerely,
Ryan T. Rhea
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