Linux-Misc Digest #937, Volume #19               Sat, 24 Apr 99 01:13:15 EDT

Contents:
  Re: slrn/ircii from menus-fvwm (Andrew Comech)
  Re: zip drive only mountable once? (henk van der knaap)
  ... Some shell/perl questions ... (Kenny McCormack)
  boot/root disks (jik-)
  linux computers for sale (warlock)
  Re: CD-R filesystems (Rod Smith)
  Re: Opinions on KDE? (Philip Brown)
  Re: How to create ISO compatible ROM for linux (Rod Smith)
  Re: Email program wanted (Adrian Hands)
  Re: Newbie: Free disk space (jik-)
  Re: multiple X sessions ("JACK")
  Embedded Network Linux for 386, No HDD, 2M RAM ("Albert Putnam")
  Re: GNOME compliant window manager - not (Rurick Kellermann)
  Re: zip drive only mountable once? (Bogdan Bucicovschi)
  Re: Oracle8i for Linux:  Anyone recieved their CD yet? (Tony Smolar)
  Re: multiple X sessions ("Jimmy Navarro")
  zip drive only mountable once? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Oracle (Tony Smolar)
  Re: Unix 2 Linux (Tony Smolar)
  Re: which window manager? (Tony Smolar)
  Re: which window manager? (Tony Smolar)
  Re: Line Graphics Problem ("T.E.Dickey")
  Re: multiple X sessions (Rob Lahaye)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Comech)
Subject: Re: slrn/ircii from menus-fvwm
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 23 Apr 1999 21:43:07 -0500

On Fri, 23 Apr 1999 20:21:48 -0400, Rick wrote:
>Can someone tell me how to start slrm and/or ircii from a menu in fvwm.
>I have tried the Exec "  "  exec xxx line and nothing happens. As you
>can tell, I am quite a newbie with Linux.
>
>Any and all help appreciated.

Hi Rick,
just in case you are not getting enough answers --
in /etc/X11/fvwm2/main-menu-pre.hook
you could add something like

+ "slrn" Exec xterm -T "slrn@here" -e slrn

That is, you should get `xterm' window first, executing there
slrn or whatever.

Cheese,
Andrew
-- 
Looking for a Linux-compatible V.90 modem? See
http://www.math.sunysb.edu/~comech/tools/CheapBox.html#modem

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From: henk van der knaap <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: zip drive only mountable once?
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 14:16:50 +1200

On Sat, 24 Apr 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi
> 
> I have no problem to mount my zip drive once with
> 
> mount /dev/sda4 /zip
> 
> but when i do
> 
> umount /zip
> 
> and then change the disk in the drive and try to mount
> the drive again it, it tells me:
> 
> mount: /dev/sda4 is not a vaild block device
> 
> This is the same even if I insert the same disk again a second
> time.
> 
> Who can help?
> 
> 
> Rene
> 
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> 
> 

Dear Rene,

Debian does not have this problem. 

But try mount /dev/sda /zip, and if that does not work try /dev/sda4 /zip

again.

Regards

Henk

Henk van der Knaap,
92 Halswell Junction Road,
Christchurch, New Zealand.
Phone/fax 64 3 3229185

Operating system is Linux Debian 2.1
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenny McCormack)
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.perl.misc
Subject: ... Some shell/perl questions ...
Date: 23 Apr 1999 17:23:09 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Matthew Bafford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
....
>:  #!/usr/bin/perl
>:  sub handler {
>:      local($sig = $g) = $
>:      print "Caught a SIG$sig - shutting down\n";
>:      exit 0;
>:      }
>: 
>:  $SIG{'INT'}
>:  $SIG  = 'handler';
>:  system 'cat';
>:  print "Perl exiting...\n";
>: 
>: I would like my handler to be called when the user ^C's the cat program.
>: Is this possible?
>
....
>Because C<system()> and backticks block C<SIGINT> and C<SIGQUIT>, killing
>the program they're running doesn't actually interrupt your program.
><snip>
>
>So, manually do exactly what system does.

BUT...

According to the Camel book (page 192):

--- Cut Here ---
system

This function executes any program on the system for you.  It does
exactly the same thing as "exec LIST" except that a FORK is done first
and the script waits for the program it's running to complete.
--- Cut Here ---

This sounds to me like it literally does a fork()/exec()/wait(), rather than
calling system() [*].  Perhaps this assumption is wrong...

[*] Subject, of course, to the assumption that the command is simple
enough that it can be executed directly, w/o invoking /bin/sh.

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Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 19:32:28 -0700
From: jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: boot/root disks

How do you make a system were you boot from one floppy, it tells you to
remove it and put in the next?

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Subject: linux computers for sale
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (warlock)
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 01:35:10 GMT

I bought 2 for my office servers... great systems.


http://homestead.com/linux2000


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: CD-R filesystems
Date: 24 Apr 1999 03:11:12 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore) writes:
> On 23 Apr 1999 14:57:57 GMT, 
>  Rod Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>>      jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> >> FWIW, if you use mkhybrid rather than mkisofs, it's also possible to
>> >> create a CD that includes Joliet, Rock Ridge, and MacOS's HFS, all in one.
>> >> This can be very handy sometimes.
>> > 
>> > Oh, so these filesystems can all coexist on the same CD in the same
>> > space,...talking about the same files?  Is there anything that would
>> > make this unreadable on other operating systems?
>> 
>> Yes, they can all exist on one CD, pointing to the same files.  I've just
>> posted a more elaborate response to Brian Moore giving theoretical
>> details (he seems to have been under some mistaken impressions about
>> what's possible in mixing these filesystems).
> 
> Indeed, all sorts of things are possible: but irrelevant as mkisofs
> doesn't do it.

It's unclear what "it" you're talking about here, but the most likely
referent, particularly given the unquoted discussion to which I referred,
appears to be jik's query about all three filesystems coexisting on a
single CD and pointing to the same files.  If that's what you meant by
"it," then you're certainly correct about mkisofs, since mkisofs doesn't
support HFS, but it's NOT true about mkhybrid, which is what I was
talking about.

> You can abuse features of things like MS-DOS which displays only the
> first volume of a multi-session disk to have precisely the effect you
> describe of showing a completely different set of files than what you'd
> see on a Windows machine or a Unix machine for that matter.

I never said anything about multi-session discs.  I said that certain
COMMERCIAL CD-ROMs place references to different files in their ISO-9660
and Joliet disc structures.  Now, I don't know if these CDs are
technically breaking any specs in doing this.  It's conceivable that they
are, but they do it.

> The typical Joliet CD-ROM is quite readable on a non-Joliet System.
> (Just as my earlier example, a vfat disk with long filenames is very
> much readble on a plain-old-fat system, but with some name munging.)
>
> All that mkisofs does is write an alternative directory, which is what
> I said it did.

I think this is, in part, devolving into a pointless semantic debate.  To
me, although the Joliet and ISO-9660 directory structures TYPICALLY point
to the same files, they count as different filesystems because those
directory structures ARE INDEPENDENT.  Aside from using the ISO-9660 SVD
(Secondary Volume Descriptor) pointer to point to the Joliet directory
structures, Joliet doesn't rely upon the ISO-9660 directory structures --
or at least, that's my understanding of the matter.  You seem to be
calling them the same filesystem because they point to the same files on
the disc.  Fine.  By that reasoning, though, HFS on a mkhybrid-created CD
is the same filesystem as ISO-9660.

>> AFAIK, mixing all three filesystems won't make a CD unreadable by any OS,
>> so long as that OS can read at least one of the filesystems.  It wouldn't
>> surprise me if there were a buggy CD driver somewhere, for some OS, that
>> would run into problems with a triple-mode CD, however.  I've not
>> encountered this with DOS, Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows NT, OS/2,
>> MacOS, or Linux, however, so at least one driver set for each of those
>> OSes can cope well with such combination CDs.
> 
> You haven't deal with Mac files much, eh?

Sure I have.

> The Mac -must- mount the CD
> as HFS in order to get a program file off it.

Assuming that file isn't encoded in MacBinary, compressed with Stuffit, or
some such, yes.

> It can't read programs
> (and some data files) off a plain old iso9660 because information about
> the file is lost.  This is truly a new filesystem in that a whole set
> of extra attributes are included with files, as opposed to Joliet which
> just gives an alternative index much like vfat does for "long filename
> support".

Ah, I see what you're getting at.  But suppose you've got a combined
HFS/ISO-9660 CD that doesn't contain program files, or anything that needs
resource forks.  For instance, it might have only the files that comprise
web pages (HTML files, JPEG files, GIF files, and so on), or be a
collection of clip art or text files.  Then you're just back to the
"alternate index" thing, but the index is structured as an HFS index.  Is
this any less an HFS disk for lacking resource fork data?

> It's also very easy to confuse MS-DOS, since the stock MS-DOS
> implementation shows the first directory it finds instead of the last
> as mentioned earlier.  It would take some tweaking of mkisofs to do
> that, though.

I'm not sure what you're trying to say here.  The Joliet structures are
pointed to by the ISO-9660 SVD (Secondary Volume Descriptor), while the
ISO-9660 structures are held in the PVD (Primary Volume Descriptor).  I
presume that DOS will only look at the latter, and will ignore the
former.  I don't recall the exact details about how HFS coexists in all
this, but it's certainly not by taking over the PVD or anything else that
DOS looks for.  I'm quite certain that I've used ISO-9660/Joliet/HFS CDs
in DOS with no problems.

That said, I'm sure you could confuse DOS's CD drivers by some
shenanigans, but the same is true of any OS.  Whether any commonly-used
multi-filesystem standards would do it is another matter.

> Theoretical details are a fine thing, but completely pointless in this
> discussion regarding how mkisofs and mkhybrid work.

Not just these two, though.  In another post in this thread, I brought up
programs like Nero, in response to your claim that you couldn't fit 600MB
worth of files on both filesystems on a dual HFS/ISO-9660 CD.  That IS
true of the way such CDs are created with some programs (like Nero), but
it's NOT true of the way mkhybrid works.  I recall reading a particularly
lucid discussion of these issues somewhere or other once (I thought with
the mkhybrid documentation), but I can't seem to find it just now.

-- 
Rod Smith
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http://www.channel1.com/users/rodsmith
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philip Brown)
Subject: Re: Opinions on KDE?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 23 Apr 1999 23:08:21 GMT

On 23 Apr 1999 13:05:27 PDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>....
>The best thing I can do right now to increase performance under Linux or
>Windows is get a better video card with more memory.  Processing power isn't
>an issue for me yet.

Adding more memory to your VIDEO CARD will not improve the performance of
your display. If anything, it will encourage you to increase the colour depth,
which will SLOW YOU DOWN.

adding more system memory, or adding a better overall card, will probably
help.

>I have a P150 w/ 48MB, and an ATI mach 64 card with 2MB.

Hurmph. I have a P90 with the same card. you haven't seen slow :-)



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: How to create ISO compatible ROM for linux
Date: 23 Apr 1999 01:41:13 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Posted and mailed]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        "Tim Underwood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I have been trying to create a compatible CDROM for linux that supports long
> filenames.  (Testing with CDRW at the moment).
> 
> I am creating the ROM on a Win98 PC, and have tried the NTI CD Maker Pro
> 3.1.730 program that came with the unit, as well as Adaptec Easy CD Creator
> Deluxe 3.5b.
> 
> I have tried the Joliet format, as well as the ISO 9660.  While 95/98 can
> see long filenames with either format, as soon as I mount it on linux, I get
> 8.3 names.

Linux kernels newer than somewhere late in the 2.0.x series (2.0.33 or
2.0.35 or some such) can handle Joliet automatically, as can all 2.2.x
kernels (assuming they're compiled with this support active, of course). 
For general Unix/Linux compatibility, and to support Linux-style
permissions, links, and so on, you'll want to create a CD that uses Rock
Ridge instead of or in addition to Joliet.  You can do this from either
Linux or Windows using the mkisofs program (which is a Unix utility that's
been compiled for Win32, in addition to Linux).  I've got some links to it
on a web page about burning your own Linux CD from Windows:

http://www.channel1.com/users/rodsmith/rhjol.html

-- 
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From: Adrian Hands <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Email program wanted
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 19:23:15 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Is there an email program (rpm's preferred) that can check multiple POP3
> servers?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> TW
> 
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fetchmail can check multiple POP3s and forward them to your email so you
can read with any mail reader.

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Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 18:48:49 -0700
From: jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Newbie: Free disk space

Jeff Busch wrote:
> 
> I've had Rh 5.2 up and running for about five weeks.  Got all my
> hardware working (had to do some research and server upgrading).  But I
> cannot figure out how to check the amount of space left on my hard
> drive.  Is there a command like the DOS "dir" command that I can use.
> How is this basic function accomplished with Linux.
> 
> Jeff

man df

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From: "JACK" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: multiple X sessions
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 04:18:26 +0100

that is more or less what i was looking for....cheers...

howabout opening a session from a remote host...i have another linux box...i
can run remote Xsessions from this on a win95 machine ysing Xwin32...could i
open an remote xsession on a linux host all ready running it own local
xsession.?

j
jik- wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>JACK wrote:
>>
>> hello all...
>>      i remember reading "somewhere" that you can have two Xsessions
running
>> at the same time. i.e one on <alt>-f7 and another on <alt>-f8 ....or
>> similar.....
>> could any one tell me how to do this or at least point me in the right
>> direction.
>> btw...assuming that its possible..
>>
>> j
>
>startx -ws 1 -- :1 -bpp 16



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From: "Albert Putnam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Embedded Network Linux for 386, No HDD, 2M RAM
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 23:58:57 -0400

Looking for a hints on making a Linux that runs
on a 386 with 2M RAM and no HDD.

Networking with NE2000 and one other known type card.
 Can the drivers be compiled (hardwired) in to avoid the
 module loader?

Serial port to a terminal user interface would be fine
 (No kybd, VGA... - only laptop to COM1)
 How do you gut the VGA, kybd, mouse system?

Since I only have memory (and very tight)
 How do you gut the swapper out of the system?
 (It will all be real memory after all)

Albert Putnam
[EMAIL PROTECTED]






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From: Rurick Kellermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: GNOME compliant window manager - not
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 06:04:30 +1100

Hi Lisa,

I also had the same problem. I 'm also a newbie to Linux. The way i fixed was to
delete the .gnome directories under the root directory (have not had the chance to
create another userid besides root).  Once I deleted the .gnome directories, I
launched X again and the problem disappeared.

Rurick Kellermann
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


>


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From: Bogdan Bucicovschi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: zip drive only mountable once?
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 00:10:15 -0400

Do you have the zip disk inside the drive at the boot time?
Maybe that is the problem.
Try to boot without the disk inserted, and see what happens.
I think that the kernel thinks that the disk is nonremovable
if it appears at the boot time,
and gives you an error afterwards.
Bo

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Hi
> 
> I have no problem to mount my zip drive once with
> 
> mount /dev/sda4 /zip
> 
> but when i do
> 
> umount /zip
> 
> and then change the disk in the drive and try to mount
> the drive again it, it tells me:
> 
> mount: /dev/sda4 is not a vaild block device
> 
> This is the same even if I insert the same disk again a second
> time.
> 
> Who can help?
> 
> Rene
> 
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tony Smolar)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.databases,linux.redhat.misc,alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.databases.oracle.misc,comp.databases.oracle.server,comp.database.oracle
Subject: Re: Oracle8i for Linux:  Anyone recieved their CD yet?
Date: 24 Apr 1999 00:19:41 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:06:49 +0300, David Fenton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Nope! I ordered mine ages ago. I heard that they were shipping, but I still
>await.

I received the Solaris version.  

Originally when Oracle announced it, they
were only offering NT and Solaris.  I registered for Solaris right away.  A
few days later, they annouced the Linux version, I went and re-registered for
that one (the one that I really wanted).  I wonder if they'll send both.

>Lesser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:01be89ee$6008e510$24921e18@box1...
>> I haven't gotten mine yet.  I was wondering if anyone else has though.
>>
>
>


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From: "Jimmy Navarro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: multiple X sessions
Date: 24 Apr 1999 00:09:03 GMT

You can do multiple concurrent (at least 8) session with KDE depending to
your machine capability.  I use Window Maker and only use two sessions but
may be it can be more.  

If you do while within X Window Ctrll+Alt+F1 you'll be prompted for another
virtual login but opening another X  Window session is not permissible that
I know of.  You can Ctrl+Alt+F7 to go back to your previous X Window
session.  I'll give this to the credit of Brian Moore in his reply to my
earlier's similar question.  )=:

JACK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in article <QD7U2.413$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> hello all...
>      i remember reading "somewhere" that you can have two Xsessions
running
> at the same time. i.e one on <alt>-f7 and another on <alt>-f8 ....or
> similar.....
> could any one tell me how to do this or at least point me in the right
> direction.
> btw...assuming that its possible..
> 
> j
> 
>


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: zip drive only mountable once?
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 00:13:12 GMT

Hi

I have no problem to mount my zip drive once with

mount /dev/sda4 /zip

but when i do

umount /zip

and then change the disk in the drive and try to mount
the drive again it, it tells me:

mount: /dev/sda4 is not a vaild block device

This is the same even if I insert the same disk again a second
time.

Who can help?


Rene

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tony Smolar)
Subject: Re: Oracle
Date: 24 Apr 1999 00:17:16 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Fri, 23 Apr 1999 03:57:54 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:


>Again, I've just heard this and can't confirm it for myself as I am still in
>the process of trying to figure out how to configure my kernel parameters for
>the installation.

Ignore that.  I've installed it on at least three Linux boxes without
touching kernel parameters.  It won't mysteriously bomb out like the Solaris
version does if you forget to change the Kernel parameters.

This is a good question though, Do those parameters really apply to Linux,
or is it just a documentation holdover from the Unix versions?  If they do
apply to Linux, then how DO you set them?  There's no /etc/system file, and
no SAM-like tool like on HP/UX.

>Good luck.
>
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>     Does anyone know if the Linux version of Oracle 8 is free?  The FAQ
>> on their site has a statement along the lines of "we feel that people
>> would in fact be willing to pay for quality linux applications, blah,
>> blah..", but all you have to do is register with their mailing list crap
>> to get straight to the download section.  It's such a huge download
>> though, I wanted to see before I download it if anyone knows for a fact
>> that it's free (and not a time-limited trial or something).
>>
>>
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tony Smolar)
Subject: Re: Unix 2 Linux
Date: 24 Apr 1999 00:24:27 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 23 Apr 1999 09:02:29 -0400, Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Ed Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>>     A newbie dares to ask: I really enjoyed reading the postings
>> about Linux-to-Unix. I remember reading somewhere that Unix-to-Linux
>> is less difficult. Will old Unix software (commercially produced,
>> ie. Enable) run on Linux? The more options you give me, the better!
>
>i am not familiar with enable.  if all you have is a binary, you will
>probably need to use a similar processor to run it.  i.e., if enable
>is compiled for m68k, it'll be hard to run it on a i386 linux box.
>that said, there's some support for interoperability with unix flavors
>running on the same hardware.  i386 linux can run sco binaries with
>ibcs(?).  i wouldn't be surprised if sparc linux could do sunos4
>binaries &c.

Yes, SCO programs will work with iBCS, but you will probably need to steal a
few libraries from a working SCO box.  If I recall correctly, iBCS can also
run Solaris (x86) binaries, as well as Xenix.

Also, I believe Alpha Linux can run Digital Unix binaries.  I don't know
about any of the other ports though.

>i don't know if this helps any but there it is...
>
>-- 
>johan kullstam


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tony Smolar)
Subject: Re: which window manager?
Date: 24 Apr 1999 00:28:02 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Thu, 22 Apr 1999 20:13:14 +0100, D. Vrabel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Thu, 22 Apr 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I have a slow pc, a 486dx4-100 with 32mb and a 4mb s3 virge videocard. Which
>> window manger do you recommend? I am using fvwm now, but it is hard to
>> configure.
>I'd recommend FVWM 2.  And saying fvwm is hard to configure is doing
>injustice to its excellent man page.

FVWM is tedious to configure.  It's pretty easy to read the comments in the
sample config, but trying different options, restarting, trying more
options, restarting gets to be very tedious.

>David
>--
>David Vrabel
>Engineering Undergraduate at University of Cambridge, UK.
>


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tony Smolar)
Subject: Re: which window manager?
Date: 24 Apr 1999 00:26:31 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Fri, 23 Apr 1999 19:05:15 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>  Samuel Knapp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Have you considered blackbox?  It's small and not very resource heavy at
>> all.  It's pretty easy to configure, as far as I'm concerned.  Not many
>> frills, but a lot of reliability.
>
>That's pretty much my vote. For a window manager needing low resources either
>BlackBox or WindowMaker will do. I hear IceWM is slim also.

Unless I had a buggy version, I found WM to be a memory hog.  It was fast,
though.  BlackBox is probably a good choice.

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From: "T.E.Dickey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Line Graphics Problem
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 03:17:30 GMT

In comp.os.linux.misc edmo <[email protected]> wrote:
> I have 2 computers connected, (via telnet),  to an SCO server. One is
> RH4.2 and works fine. The other is RH5.2 and when I run the SCO
> application on this Linux  pc the line graphics do not display. Any
> ideas.

but what terminal type does the SCO box think you have?



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From: Rob Lahaye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: multiple X sessions
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 13:50:45 +0900

JACK wrote:
> 
> that is more or less what i was looking for....cheers...
> 
> howabout opening a session from a remote host...i have another linux box...i
> can run remote Xsessions from this on a win95 machine ysing Xwin32...could i
> open an remote xsession on a linux host all ready running it own local
> xsession.?

Type:

X :1 -query <tcp/ip_address_of_remote_machine> vt8 -bpp 16


Of course ":1", "vt8" and "-bpp 16" can be adjusted to your own needs.

Rob.

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