Linux-Misc Digest #937, Volume #24 Sun, 25 Jun 00 23:13:03 EDT
Contents:
Re: loadlin setup: win98 boots despite choosing linux in menu (Jonathan Chattin)
Re: Literary Criticism ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: start the friggin music...... ("Bill Piety")
Re: WordPerfect 8: icons mangled (Rod Smith)
Re: linux as a client :-( (Edward Lee)
Re: loadlin setup: win98 boots despite choosing linux in menu (Carl Fink)
Re: http://www.linux-journal.com/ stolen by domain pirates? (Carl Fink)
cp'ing files from Dos/Windows partition to Linux partition (Bruceh)
Re: cp'ing files from Dos/Windows partition to Linux partition (Dances With Crows)
Unable to print from remote box (MH)
Re: Athlon MB, disk (Was: Building a speedboat...) (Craig McCluskey)
Re: cp'ing files from Dos/Windows partition to Linux partition (Bruceh)
Re: Setting console fonts... ("Faux_Pseudo")
Re: tarring dos/windows files (Bruceh)
Help! Screen Saver Problem (Marcus)
Re: Any recommendations for distributions? (Dowe Keller)
Re: Sun Sparc faster then intel pentium: is this true???? (WORLOK)
Re: Stability of the Culture of Helpfulness ("Buggerboo")
Re: Setting console fonts... (Dowe Keller)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonathan Chattin)
Subject: Re: loadlin setup: win98 boots despite choosing linux in menu
Date: 25 Jun 2000 20:05:31 -0400
Ted ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Turley) uttered in comp.os.linux.misc:
: >On 25 Jun 2000 04:29:06 GMT, Ted apparently wrote:
: >
: >>
: >> When I boot the system, I get a menu, as desired. However, Win98
: >> boots even if I choose the Linux option. I have doublechecked every
: >> filename and all of the syntax can't seem to get this to work. I
: >> tried eliminating the bootopts.txt file and adding that information to
: >> config.sys, as directed by the loadlin manual pages. I know loadlin
: >> itself is not the problem - does anyone know what I can do? I suspect
: >> something is configured somewhere in Win98 that needs to be changed.
: >>
: >> Thank you,
: >> Ted Schuman
: >
: >Copy my example at http://www.binary.net/dturley/linux/easylinux.html
: >
: >
: Thanks for the idea, but this was essentially what I have been doing. I copied
: your file verbatim but again the computer boots into windows when I choose the
: Linux option.
: Ted Schuman
Try this:
If this line is missing from the [Options] section of c:\msdos.sys, add it:
BootGUI=0
FWIW, here are my autoexec.bat and config.sys files:
---autoexec.bat---
@echo off
goto %config%
:win
win
goto end;
:dos
SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 H5 P330 T6
SET CTSYN=C:\WINDOWS
C:\PROGRA~1\CREATIVE\SBLIVE\DOSDRV\SBEINIT.COM
LH C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\MSCDEX.EXE /S /D:MSCD001 /M:10 > NUL
LH C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\MOUSE.COM > NUL
goto end;
:linux
c:\loadlin\loadlin.exe c:\loadlin\vmlinuz root=/dev/hda5 ro mem=196608K
goto end;
:end
---autoexec.bat---
---config.sys---
[menu]
menuitem=win,Windows 95
menuitem=dos,MS-DOS
menuitem=linux,Slackware
MenuDefault win,4
MenuColor 15,1
[common]
[win]
DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS
DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\EMM386.EXE NOEMS HIGHSCAN
DOS=HIGH,UMB
LASTDRIVE=G
DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\RAMDRIVE.SYS 5120 512 1024 /E
[dos]
DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS
DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\EMM386.EXE NOEMS HIGHSCAN
DOS=HIGH,UMB
DEVICEHIGH C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\CDTECH.SYS /D:MSCD001 /UDMA2 /V
FILES=40
BUFFERS=30
LASTDRIVE=D
STACKS=12,128
[linux]
---config.sys---
Good luck,
Jon C.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Literary Criticism
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 00:54:27 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] did eloquently scribble:
> Where can I go to find literary criticism on the short story, "The Lottery"
> by Shirley Jackson?
Wouldn't an arts newsgroup be more appropriate for this?
> How can I compose my literary criticism information into a research paper
> on "The Lottery" by Shirley Jackson?
Use Tex or a wordprocessor? Seems pretty obvious to me.
I did my entire final year project report in Wordperfect 8.
(And a little bit in word to get it printed... *spit*)
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From: "Bill Piety" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: start the friggin music......
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 19:18:44 -0600
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, acepea
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I managed to configure the ESS688 sound card on my Toshiba
> 410CDT (or so i'd like to think)
> now i have two problems
> 1. it plays .wav files but when i start the cd player under kde,
> nothing, zilch, nada.... it shows the track, starts the counter as if it
> was playing the cd but there's no sound.
>
> 2. now i've shutdown kde and come back to the shell... there's a
> shrill whistle like sound coming out of the speaker till i reboot the
> machine.
>
> what am i doing wrong??
>
> thanks for ur help.
>
> -Sid
What happens when you run sndconfig outside X. If you haven't
tried it yet, as per above 'shutdown kde' and run it from your 'shell'.
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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: WordPerfect 8: icons mangled
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 00:43:02 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Rod Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
>> This problem is common with 24-bit displays, and occasionally with
>> 32-bit displays. Try switching X to use a 16-bit display and see if it
>> goes away. (BTW, several other programs, including Netscape, suffer from
>> the same problem.)
>
>> Rumor had it that XFree86 4.0 would include a workaround for this
>> problem.
>
> I don't think it's an X problem. I think it's an Motif problem (It can't
> handle 24 bit displays. Only 8, 16 and 32).
>
> Now that it's been opened, maybe someone'll fix the problem in Motif.
According to the XFree86 web site, it is a problem with programs that
make incorrect assumptions about the way the colors are handled. I don't
recall the details. I never meant to imply that it was an XFree86 bug.
There ARE workarounds possible in the X server, though. I've seen
reports that Accelerated-X does *NOT* suffer from these same problems at
24-bit color depth, for instance.
--
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux networking & multi-OS configuration
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From: Edward Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux as a client :-(
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 17:50:42 -0700
Vilmos Soti wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith) writes:
>
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > Edward Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >>
> >> RPM may be GPL, but many programs in RPM are not.
> >
> >> There are enough custom
> >> changes to stop them from running in non-RH systems.
>
> Please stop badmouthing RedHat. RPM uses pristine source. What they
> do is simply have patches which make it work better (or at all) on
> their system. BTW this is what BSD systems do with pkg_add. Almost
> every system has to make some customization for a program to run.
> This is what RedHat also does. This is not proprietarization but
> customization.
Sorry for using the wrong language. You just rephased my comments. RH has
enough customizations to make RPM packages useless on non-redhat systems. I
had a hard time installing Sybase (rpm only) on Debian some times ago.
> Do you know any program written by RedHat which is not free?
> Nobody stops anybody to use rpm. Many other companies use it.
Have you tried installing "standard" drivers on RH systems? I had to
install standard modules, then base modules and finally the entire kernel and
modules to make things work.
> > Sorry, your arguments don't make sense. You certainly have a right to
> > dislike Red Hat, and I'm not going to argue that Red Hat is without
> > flaws, but you're accusing Red Hat of things they do not -- and legally
> > may not -- do. Please be more precise in your arguments against Red Hat.
I am not accusing RH of anything. I am just stating my problems with driver
modules and RPM packages. You might not have any problem, but many (include
myself) have encountered them.
>
>
> Exactly.
>
> Vilmos
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Fink)
Subject: Re: loadlin setup: win98 boots despite choosing linux in menu
Date: 25 Jun 2000 22:49:10 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 25 Jun 2000 16:26:00 GMT Ted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>The problem is too much space, not too little. Linux resides past the
>1024th cylinder on my 20 gig hard drive, so the version of LILO that I have
>will not boot it.
Oh. Actually, I did that very thing on my previous computer. Sorry.
> . . . I decided it would be far easier just to use loadlin for the
>time being. I am not exactly sure how to install a partition at the
>beginning of a drive, since it was my understanding that fips does
>it at the end.
Well, you don't have to use fips, but yeah. There's nothing
whatsoever *wrong* with loadlin -- I like it a lot, actually. I just
didn't understand your comment.
--
Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I-Con's Science and Technology Programming
<http://www.iconsf.org/>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Fink)
Crossposted-To: no.it.os.unix.linux.diverse
Subject: Re: http://www.linux-journal.com/ stolen by domain pirates?
Date: 25 Jun 2000 22:52:19 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The LJ site is www.linuxjournal.com, no hyphen. Not piracy, at most
domain grabbing.
--
Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I-Con's Science and Technology Programming
<http://www.iconsf.org/>
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From: Bruceh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: cp'ing files from Dos/Windows partition to Linux partition
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 00:59:05 GMT
I copied files from my Dos/Windows partition to /tmp on my Linux partition.
I noticed that some of the files were not the same size. It seems as though
text files were changed removing the \r characters.
Is this a normal thing? If so, how do I supress this?
TIA
-bruceh-
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: cp'ing files from Dos/Windows partition to Linux partition
Date: 25 Jun 2000 21:12:35 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 26 Jun 2000 00:59:05 GMT, Bruceh
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>I copied files from my Dos/Windows partition to /tmp on my Linux partition.
>I noticed that some of the files were not the same size. It seems as though
>text files were changed removing the \r characters.
>
>Is this a normal thing? If so, how do I supress this?
No, this is not normal. Check your /etc/fstab and make sure that no
"conv=" strings are present in the line that specifies mount options for
the DOS partition. It should look like so:
/dev/hda1 /mnt/dos noexec,user,noauto 0 0
By default, no conversion is performed on DOS files, but you can get CRLF
-> LF translation on text files by specifying "conv=auto" in the fstab
options. Which distro is this, btw? Seems like a silly thing for them to
be doing....
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows /\ "Man could not stare too long at the face
\----[this space for rent]-----/ \ of the Computer or her children and still
\There is no Darkness in Eternity \ remain as Man." --David Zindell "So did
But only Light too dim for us to see\ they become Gods, or Usenetters?" --/me
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From: MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Unable to print from remote box
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 18:47:17 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
When I send a print job to my printserver, nothing happens. Jobs are
sent to the local spool but they are never forwarded to the printserver
for processing. I can print from the printserver. All other boxes are
configured to use the remote lpd and queue. Does my printserver need to
be running NFS server services?
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From: Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Athlon MB, disk (Was: Building a speedboat...)
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 20:48:43 -0500
Jerry McBride wrote:
> I'd like to use AMD's k7 on any reliable motherboard that sports at least 2
> ISA card slots. My choices are narrowed down to:
>
> - BIOSTAR M7MKA
> - GIGABYTE GA-7IX
> - MICROSTART MS6167
I'm running Red Hat 6.2 on a GA7IX. No problems, installed right away.
Have Elsa Erazor III (32 MB) AGP video card.
> Also... can someone clear up an old, confused mind? If a plain old IDE
> harddrive is plugged into one of the newer UDMA33 or UDMA66 controllers...
> will it still work correctly? Performance is not an issue, I just need to
> know if I'll be able to access the old iron on the new silicon.
In having some problems getting a modem at IRQ 5 to work, I substituted
the 530MB disk from our old 486 system for my WD-102BA (it has Win 3.1
with modem set for IRQ5) and it ran just fine. (Win 3.1 was noticably
faster that with the 486! :-) )
Craig
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From: Bruceh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: cp'ing files from Dos/Windows partition to Linux partition
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 01:56:49 GMT
Dances With Crows wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Jun 2000 00:59:05 GMT, Bruceh
> <<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
> >I copied files from my Dos/Windows partition to /tmp on my Linux partition.
> >I noticed that some of the files were not the same size. It seems as though
> >text files were changed removing the \r characters.
> >
> >Is this a normal thing? If so, how do I supress this?
>
> No, this is not normal. Check your /etc/fstab and make sure that no
> "conv=" strings are present in the line that specifies mount options for
> the DOS partition. It should look like so:
>
> /dev/hda1 /mnt/dos noexec,user,noauto 0 0
>
> By default, no conversion is performed on DOS files, but you can get CRLF
> -> LF translation on text files by specifying "conv=auto" in the fstab
> options. Which distro is this, btw? Seems like a silly thing for them to
> be doing....
Matt,
That was the problem. There was a "conv=auto" that I changed
to "conv=binary" (no conversion).
I am using a Mandrake.
Thanks!
-bruceh-
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From: "Faux_Pseudo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Setting console fonts...
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 01:57:10 GMT
well we have some answers but they are not all right
to use the vga=ask you can use a framebufferd kernel or a regular kernel
this will tape into your bios and give you about 6 options for the number of
lines you want
but on some chipsets ,espicialy notebook ones, this is not the best option
it may result in a margin around your screen that is just not that nice
and never chose the scan option
this may crash your box
the good news is that if you do scan your harddrive is still on read only
and you wont have to wait for fsick
the best way to use it is to recompile your kernel for frame buffer suport
or if you use mandrake just intsall the kernel-fb-xxxxx.rpm that came with
your cd
and then hope over to /usr/doc/HOWTO/ and some where in there or mini or
unmaintaied you will find
Vesafb-HOWTO
this has the charts for the screen ress and color depth codes that you will
append to
vga=xxx
if you do this its best to have each kernel on your box have two spots in
lilo. One with vga=ask and one with vga=xxx
the reason is that some programs like zgv* and quake* will not work in
framebuffer mode
and apps like fbi* will not work in vga ask mode
zgv = console based pic viewer . can be found a t freshmeat
fbi = framebuffer console based pic viewer . can be found a t freshmeat
quake = if you need to ask you need to put the computer back in the box and
send it back
if you are a dedicated console person also check out twin to maximise your
screen realestate
Hendrix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi guys,
>
> How can I set the font size for my console...!!! I used to do it in DOS
> with the 'mode' command... Any such command, utility, or setting to use
> for linux... Thanks,
>
> --
> Trevor Penney,
> A+, Network+ Certified
> ----------------------
> That's alright, I still got my guitar...
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From: Bruceh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: tarring dos/windows files
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 02:01:21 GMT
For anyone interested, my problem was due to my /etc/fstab
having a "conv=auto" on my dos partitions.
Thanks to Matt G / Dances With Crows for helping me resolve this.
The tar errors have now gone away and I can read the tar file
from Windows.
-bruceh-
Bruceh wrote:
> I am tarring files from my dos/Windows partition and am getting
> several errors:
> tar: File <xxx> shrunk by <#> bytes, padding with zeros
>
> When I read the tar file with
> tar -tvf
> it stops at the first <xxx> file during the tar -cvf. However
> adding a -i (ignore blocks of zeros in archive) I can get past
> the barrier.
>
> If I try to read the tar file in Windows using WinZip I do not
> have an equivalent -i method.
>
> What causes the error in the first place and is there a way
> I can overcome the problem?
>
> Thanks.
>
> -bruceh-
On Mon, 26 Jun 2000 00:59:05 GMT, Bruceh
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>I copied files from my Dos/Windows partition to /tmp on my Linux partition.
>I noticed that some of the files were not the same size. It seems as though
>text files were changed removing the \r characters.
>
>Is this a normal thing? If so, how do I supress this?
No, this is not normal. Check your /etc/fstab and make sure that no
"conv=" strings are present in the line that specifies mount options for
the DOS partition. It should look like so:
/dev/hda1 /mnt/dos noexec,user,noauto 0 0
By default, no conversion is performed on DOS files, but you can get CRLF
-> LF translation on text files by specifying "conv=auto" in the fstab
options. Which distro is this, btw? Seems like a silly thing for them to
be doing....
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows /\ "Man could not stare too long at the face
\----[this space for rent]-----/ \ of the Computer or her children and still
\There is no Darkness in Eternity \ remain as Man." --David Zindell "So did
But only Light too dim for us to see\ they become Gods, or Usenetters?" --/me
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From: Marcus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help! Screen Saver Problem
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 10:10:45 +0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dear all,
Please give some suggestion to me...
I have just installed Redhat 6.2 and using GNome display manager.
I would like to set a screen saver, I can see the preview in
"screen saver setup", so I set the trigger time and click 'OK'
button, then wait for it happen.
when time is up, the screen is blank, and NO screen saver (the graphic)
is shown.
why is that? how can I solve the problem? what should I check?
Thanks a lot,
Marcus
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dowe Keller)
Subject: Re: Any recommendations for distributions?
Date: 25 Jun 2000 19:36:21 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>There is a Hardware compatibility list out there somewhere, if that's what
>you want... Linux tends not to have "drivers" in the windows sense, instead
>it has Kernel modules....
>
>Can't remember where the list is though, sorry.
Two sites that may be helpful:
http://lhd.datapower.com/
http://metalab.unc.edu/mdw/HOWTO/Hardware-HOWTO.html
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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There are two major products that come out of Berkeley: LSD and UNIX.
We don't believe this to be a coincidence.
-- Jeremy S. Anderson
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From: WORLOK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: Sun Sparc faster then intel pentium: is this true????
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 02:15:44 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Rich Teer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>But Linux != UNIX. UNIX itself *is* standard, to a large degree. As
well as the previously mentioned SVR4 and POSIX standards,
there's also the UNIX '98 and UNIX 2000 standards (both of which
Solaris is compliant with). I agree that Linux has some work
to do in the
are of standards conformance (though Linux advocaters may diagree with
me here!).
>>-----worlok says:----------->
All I can say here is that although Linux != UNIX, it is a UNIX variant,
and for practical purposes - if it looks like UNIX and acts like
UNIX....
The bottom line is that it's fast, stable, can be very secure... and
it's giving Bill Gates nightmares, and anything that gives Billy Bob
nightmares is OK with me!
I LOVE my Linux boxes both at work and at home. I run Linux on my
workstation at work, and in order to interoperate with the rest of the
company I run W2K Pro and outlook (etc...) in a VMWARE vm. Works great,
and the machine doesn't have to be rebooted many times a day like when
it ran NT4. I F**king hate NT. Piece O' crap.
As for Intel vs Sparc, all I can say is that my Ultrasparcs at work eat
SETI@home work units like Pez, as compared to the Intel CPU's handling
of those work units. I wish I could afford a few Ultrasparcs for home
just to pump up my SET@home ranking, but then again my wife would throw
me out if I did that. Maybe someday >;-))
>>---worlok---->
--
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Before you buy.
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From: "Buggerboo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Stability of the Culture of Helpfulness
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 18:10:24 +0900
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dowe Keller)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Setting console fonts...
Date: 25 Jun 2000 20:18:12 -0700
On Sun, 25 Jun 2000 04:02:39 -0230, Hendrix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi guys,
>
>How can I set the font size for my console...!!! I used to do it in DOS
>with the 'mode' command... Any such command, utility, or setting to use
>for linux... Thanks,
type:
man SVGATextMode
for mutch information.
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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There are two major products that come out of Berkeley: LSD and UNIX.
We don't believe this to be a coincidence.
-- Jeremy S. Anderson
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