Linux-Misc Digest #958, Volume #19 Mon, 26 Apr 99 23:13:10 EDT
Contents:
Re: Help choosing distribution (jik-)
Re: scanners (Ulrich Brachvogel)
Re: Linux Sucks as a Java Server, comments??? (jik-)
Re: x11amp ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Getting GIMP and StarOffice to coexist ("Jerome PAYS")
how to specify from: in pine ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
want fvwm back, now it is kde when I type startx ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Redhat 6.0... Coming tomorrow?? (Flyboy105)
Re: Compiled program seems too large (TurkBear)
how to dock apps with windowmaker ? ("marc*")
Re: Compiled program seems too large (NF Stevens)
Re: The little dual boot that didn't (Johan Kullstam)
Re: making linux go away ("Alma J. Wetzker")
Information required, please ("Antony Shepherd")
Re: *.doc viewer (Christopher Mahmood)
Re: TCL lib- installation (Christopher Mahmood)
Re: making linux go away (Christopher Mahmood)
Re: how people can reply to messages sent by pine (Christopher Mahmood)
Re: S.u.S.E news group (Christopher Mahmood)
Re: Netscape 4.51 --> Bus error !!! (Christopher Mahmood)
Re: Opinions on KDE? (Christopher Mahmood)
Re: Next Redhat Linux Release (Christopher Mahmood)
Re: lilo -v (Christopher Mahmood)
Re: Netscape: get flagged mail in newsgroup (Christopher Mahmood)
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Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 13:49:54 -0700
From: jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Help choosing distribution
Fuck it....I'll respond to the actual points you had.
Des Herriott wrote:
>
> On Fri, 23 Apr 1999 13:27:03 -0700, jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > First off, I know of no init setup that "lumps everything into one
> > file".
>
> Alright, everything for one runlevel into one file.
You don't know what your talking about do you....obviously since this is
an inacurate description of the Slackware rc.d directory layout.
>
> > It makes adding
> > > services easy,
> >
> > How so? You have to come up with a new script instead of simply adding
> > an entry in the apropriate location.
>
> You have to modify an existing file, rather than adding a new one.
Why thank you, thats one of the points I was trying to make I think.
> Interactively, not much of a problem, although an error when editing
> that file could affect *every* service, not just the service you're
> working on.
Anything is possible I guess, but I have never experienced what your
talking about....course the setup is so easy that its pretty hard to
fuck it up.
> Programmatically, it's a nightmare, and controlling the
> order in which your services start is nigh-on impossible.
They happen in the order which you tell them to, if you tell it to start
gpm before you tell it to start sendmail then THAT is exactly what
happens.
> Here's a scenario: you have 50 Linux boxes, and you need to install
> xfstt (a TrueType fontserver) on all of them.
Yeah, its pretty hard to use cp or cut and paste to edit a text file. I
am sure I could write some script that did what was needed without any
major problems on the slackware machines....if I needed such a service
which I don't....and I doubt that the person I WAS talking to does
either.
> How do you do this in Slackware? And how do you remove the service
> should it become unnecessary? How do you control which services get
> started before xfstt, and which ones get started after?
Ok, here is what I go through to change the services in my Slackware
box....also consider the fact that as an absolute newbie I was able to
figure out how to do this without reading one single piece of
documentation on the subject and it took me about 5 minutes to make at
least enough sence to be reasonably sure I wasn't going to break
something,...and I was rather unconfident for the first year or so.
Ill-Logic:~$ su
Password:
Ill-Logic:/home/jik-# cd /etc/rc.d
Ill-Logic:/home/jik-# cd /etc/rc.d
Ill-Logic:/etc/rc.d# ls (oops looks like I forgot to delete a backup)
rc.0 rc.K rc.cdrom rc.httpd~ rc.local
rc.4 rc.M rc.font rc.inet1 rc.modules
rc.6 rc.S rc.httpd rc.inet2 rc.serial
Ill-Logic:/etc/rc.d#
Ok, now that I _DO_ know what runlevels ARE (I didn't then), I can look
at that list and easily gather what I might find in each file. rc.0-6
are for halt, xdm, and reboot respectably. K, M, S = Kernel,
Multi-User, and System runlevels then the rest are named, some I have
looked at some I haven't...the name pretty much says everything but a
couple you may not know at first, like serial, as an absolute newbie.
Now, the objective is to add pnp initialization for my soundcard so I
can hear sound in Linux and not have to mess with it on the command
line. I need to run this program before the modules are modprobed or I
will have to manualy bring sound into the picture. The first time I did
this I had to look in the rc.M and rc.S files because I didn't know, and
look for something talking about modules.....
The first time I did this I saw this line....
if [ -x /sbin/kerneld ]; then
/sbin/kerneld
fi
and thought that just before that was the correct place....now I know
that it isn't the best especially since I don't use kerneld anymore.
bash$ joe rc.modules
were it says:
# Sound support:
# (The sound module included with Slackware is configured for a
SoundBlaster 16
# AWE32, or AWE64 at I/O 0x220 IRQ 5. If you have a different
configuration
# you'll need to compile your own module from the Linux kernel source)
/sbin/modprobe sound
I put the this line right before that.
/sbin/isapnp /etc/isapnp.conf
Now, I don't use kerneld anymore so I need to remove it from the init.
bash$ joe rc.S
keystrokes [ pgdn to kerneld execution, #, down left, #, down left #,
down left, #, cntrl-k x] and I am done....
I can also add my own run levels very easily, but I have never had the
need.
>
> > and it makes removing services easy.
> >
> > What is so hard about adding a # to the line you want to not do
> > anything? Unless your using a SySV runlevel editor, you WILL need to
> > open your text editor and edit a file.
>
> Again: programmatically, it's a nightmare.
Can't really comment on this since I have never had to "program" init.
However since the slackware pkgtool edits these files, I find it hard to
believe it is that hard.
>
> > It makes
> > > programmatic management of services easy and scriptable, and it makes
> > > interactive services management easy. Take a look at chkconfig,
> > > tksysv, kdesysv, for example, and tell me I'm wrong.
> >
> > Your wrong, I tried those interfaces,...sure I can shut services off and
> > turn them back on, but can I add a new one that never existed before?
> > No.
>
> Yes, you can. man chkconfig, and look at the --add option. ksysv picks
> up any scripts you've placed in /etc/rc.d/init.d. What's your problem?
Problem,...never once saw a document which stated that command. Like I
said, with slackware I didn't need to go hunting down documentation to
add or remove services. I was able to look at the files involved and
EASILY extract the information I needed.
Problem 2...in exactly 0 of the sysv editor interfaces did I find ANY
option to create new services, neither did I find that information in
the help or man files. Maybe it is just a simple case of bad
documentation....at any rate I did give up on the matter given the total
of all the things I didn't like about the system.....being able to use
some stupid GUI on something I change once in a blue moon does not
overweight the other points,...especially when I can't figure out how to
get it to do what I need and I can in the other system very easily.
>
> > > 10 times slower? When you can supply some empirical data to support
> > > that, I'll agree that your claim is not just pure hyperbole.
> >
> > Well, I can sit and watch the thing slowly boot,...10x maybe not, but
> > definately NOTICABLE slower....I for one do not need any "empirical
> > data" to support this claim as I can simply use my head and judge.
>
> Or make some wildly inaccurate claims. I'm glad to see you've backed
> down on this 10x nonsense.
Well, now your just bing stupid...I didn't back down on anything. 10x
was never meant as an official benchmark, you put that comment in my
mouth and now seem to get some value out of tearing it apart...well,
goody for you.
> Twice as long? What, it's suddenly become 5 times faster since the
> last time you posted? Wow.
Just nitpicking bulshit,...nothing really said here that was worth
anything.
> This also includes the time to run depmod, mount the disks (6GB in total,
> including one VFAT and one NTFS partition), and other one-time system
> initialisation tasks
Well, I wasn't counting those because I didn't notice any real
difference there. When I DID notice was when at the end the various
background processes are started, and when I halt,...the various
services which must be shut off.
> Which spaghetti code are we talking about here, exactly?
How bout you just list the files that are in one of the subdires of
rc.d,...for one of the services which must be started like gpm or
something. Multiply that count by the amount of services started and
you have a reasonably close count of all the files required in the
*other* scheme. The list above in this reply is the FULL list of every
file required besides inittab.
Oh, and a cat of one of those files would prove the point I am trying to
make. Also, You could do a tail on inittab and I will show you
mine....unless redhat inittab has changed this will show how overly
complicated the setup is.
>
> Ah. It *is* empty rhetoric. Go on, try again. You know you can come
> up with an actual reason if you try.
I can't say I know what you mean by "empty rhetoric", I have tried to
reply with the accurate account of what I see....I am going to stop now
though.
And yes I am new, I have only been using Linux for 3 years. I also have
not tried the Mandrake, Turbo Linux ,...and various other
distributions....I only know from the 6 distributions that I HAVE used
that I really have no use for any init setup besides slackware's....and
slackware seems to be the only distribution that really stands out as
any different then the rest.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ulrich Brachvogel)
Subject: Re: scanners
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 22:57:22 +0200
jik- wrote:
> I can't find a scanner howto, were do I get info on scanners?
Try to finfd something about sane(=scanner access now easy)
:=)>>
--
Mit frdl. Gruss
// <( )
// \______//
// \____/ Ulrich Brachvogel
// / \
// "Save The Curlew!"
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Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 14:10:35 -0700
From: jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Sucks as a Java Server, comments???
Oh, and I will also like to say....
The fast Java runtimes (never seen one myself) use compilation to get
that speed...not sure exactly how that works, but regardless they are
using extra tricks and wissles to get the speed they need to make Java
work competently. Perl uses a simple interpreter, it is not byte
compiled, and it is still faster.
So, if you are to compare the two languages you need to use the
interpreters for both, and not those JIT compiler/interpreters....or you
need to make one for Perl and use IT instead of perl to interpret the
script. Your comparison would then be more accurate because those JIT
interpreters add umph to whatever language they are built for,...look at
the diff between tcl/tk 7 and tcl/tk 8.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: x11amp
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 21:07:06 GMT
Yes, I got all that stuff late last week and got it to work. I didn't think
there would be so many requirements to make x11amp to run!
Anyway, all is well.
Thanks for all the help!
In article <7g1aba$tg9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
deyman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Go www.freshmeat.net or www.rpmfind.net/linux/RPMS and look for audiofile and
> esound. Those packages will meet the dependencies that are failing.
> However, audiofile requires GLIBC_2.1. Make sure you have that, then
you rpm
> -i the rest and that's it.
>
> deyman
>
> In article <7fbi4v$710$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I got the same thing, but after getting:
> >
> > glib-1.2.1-1.i386.rpm
> > gtk+-1.2.1-1.i386.rpm
> >
> > Most of those dependencies went away. However, I still get the following:
> >
> > failed dependencies:
> > libaudiofile.so.0 is needed by x11amp-0.9-beta1.1-1
> > libesd.so.0 is needed by x11amp-0.9-beta1.1-1
> >
> > What do those belong to?
> >
> > Also, when I installed the newer glib and gtk+, I initially tried using rpm
> > -Uvh to update current glib and gtk, but that failed. Instead, I used rpm
-i
> > which worked, but now I have the following gtk+ and glib+
> >
> > glib-1.0.6-3
> > glibc-debug-2.0.7-29
> > glibc-profile-2.0.7-29
> > glibc-2.0.7-29
> > glibc-devel-2.0.7-29
> > glib-1.2.1-1
> >
> > gtk+-1.0.6-3
> > gtk+-devel-1.0.6-3
> > gtk+-1.2.1-1
> >
> > (both the original and the new. Is that right?)
> >
> > Thanks in advance!
> >
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > Brandon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > hi, I downloaded X11amp in RPM format and this is what i get for error
> > > messags when i try to install. WHere do I go to check to see what
> > > versions of these I have?
> > >
> > > failed dependencies:
> > > gtk+ >= 1.2.0 is needed by x11amp-0.9-beta1-1
> > > libgdk-1.2.so.0 is needed by x11amp-0.9-beta1-1
> > > libglib-1.2.so.0 is needed by x11amp-0.9-beta1-1
> > > libgmodule-1.2.so.0 is needed by x11amp-0.9-beta1-1
> > > libgtk-1.2.so.0 is needed by x11amp-0.9-beta1-1
> > > libaudiofile.so.0 is needed by x11amp-0.9-beta1-1
> > > libesd.so.0 is needed by x11amp-0.9-beta1-1
> > >
> > > thanks
> > > Brandon
> > >
> > >
> >
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> >
>
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From: "Jerome PAYS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Getting GIMP and StarOffice to coexist
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 23:13:50 +0200
Create a subdirectory called 'lib' in the office directory and copy all the
old libraries in it, and set then environment variable LD_LIBRARY_PATH with
:
export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=<office directory>/lib
Then it should work fine
Karl Olson a �crit dans le message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>In order to install gimp 1.0.4 it was necessary to install glibc-2.1.1.
>Rather than upgrade, I did an 'rpm -ivh --force' on the new glibc-2.1.1
>so now when I 'rpm -qa |grep glibc' I see:
>
>glibc-devel-2.1.1-5
>glibc-profile-2.1.1-5
>glibc-debug-2.0.7-29
>glibc-profile-2.0.7-29
>glibc-2.1.1-5
>glibc-2.0.7-29
>glibc-devel-2.0.7-29
>
>My thought was that this way the old libraries would still be available
>for StarOffice, but no luck. StarOffice would not launch so I attempted
>to reinstall it which gave me the following (even though these files DO
>exist in /lib):
>
>ERROR: setup system check failed:
>
> ld-2.0.7.so library not found
> libBrokenLocale-2.0.7.so library not found
> libc-2.0.7.so library not found
> libcrypt-2.0.7.so library not found
> libdb-2.0.7.so library not found
> libdl-2.0.7.so library not found
> libm-2.0.7.so library not found
> libnsl-2.0.7.so library not found
> libnss_compat-2.0.7.so library not found
> libnss_db-2.0.7.so library not found
> libnss_dns-2.0.7.so library not found
> libnss_files-2.0.7.so library not found
> libnss_nis-2.0.7.so library not found
> libpthread-0.7.so library not found
> libresolv-2.0.7.so library not found
> libutil-2.0.7.so library not found
>
>============
>
>Any ideas on getting StarOffice to install?
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: how to specify from: in pine
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 21:14:07 GMT
How can I specify my email address in pine? I do not see an entry 'from:'
How can people reply when I send them a message.
I have filled in the following in the config option "customized-hdrs":
"From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Now it appears in my headers but only when I press CTRL+R and it still
stands between ""
When I take the "" away my email address is not there anymore when I press
CTRL+R.
I am getting totally nuts! Please help me or give a tip for a better email
program. I don't want to make use of programs for KDE of Gnome.
Please reply to my email address.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: want fvwm back, now it is kde when I type startx
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 21:13:14 GMT
I have installed KDE. Now when I type startx, KDE is launched. I don't
want that. I want to use fvwm. Typing startx fvwm doesn't help. How do I
get fvwm back?
Please reply to my email address.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Flyboy105)
Subject: Re: Redhat 6.0... Coming tomorrow??
Date: 26 Apr 1999 21:30:36 GMT
Well... its monday and I haven't seen anything on RH's site about RH 6.
>Well today Sunday when I went to the Redhat site and clicked on the 5.2
>box in the upper right corner.. I got a page saying comming monday and a
>white box... so 6.0 might be coming around the corner faster the most of
>us anticipated.
>
>/Jonte
====================================================
Kris Knigga
a.k.a The Great JoeBob
http://members.aol.com/Flyboy105
====================================================
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (TurkBear)
Subject: Re: Compiled program seems too large
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 21:44:58 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I compiled the exact code you posted and compiled with the same options :
the executable is @ 4K ( actually- 4149 bytes) ....
As to why....I am not enough of a programmer to know.....
Sorry...
Ben Hopkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Evan Wolenzik wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> When I compile the following code, my executable is 25k! Am I doing
>> something wrong?
>>
>> #include <stdio.h>
>>
>> int main(void)
>> {
>> printf("Hello World!\n");
>> return(0);
>> }
>>
>> I just use gcc -o hello hello.c . Using -O[2,3] makes no difference.
>
>Try using puts() instead of printf().
To reply by Email please remove the 'nospam' part of the address
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From: "marc*" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: how to dock apps with windowmaker ?
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 00:01:57 +0200
when i try to dock them they fly back at the bottom of the screen. when i
disable the automatic arrangement of icons, they don't dock either (they
remain where i drop them but not docked). i mean when you get this white
shadow
anybody help ?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NF Stevens)
Subject: Re: Compiled program seems too large
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 22:17:29 GMT
Evan Wolenzik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>When I compile the following code, my executable is 25k! Am I doing
>something wrong?
>
>#include <stdio.h>
>
>int main(void)
>{
> printf("Hello World!\n");
> return(0);
>}
>
>
>I just use gcc -o hello hello.c . Using -O[2,3] makes no difference.
Comparison of file sizes with gcc 2.7.2.3 and egcs 1.1.1 with and
without the -s (strip symbols) flag
without -s with -s
gcc 4241 2976
egcs 32838 6688
Go figure.
Norman
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From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.caldera,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: The little dual boot that didn't
Date: 26 Apr 1999 17:35:17 -0400
"Clifton T. Sharp Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 4603 wrote:
> > What the hell 5 crosspost!
>
> It is more blessed to crosspost one article to five newsgroups than to
> issue five separate copies of the same article, one to each newsgroup,
> as so many people do these days. In either case, five newsgroups get the
> article; but in the crosspost case, most news servers store only one copy
> of the article and link it to the five newsgroups.
>
> Somehow this little bit of knowledge has been lost over time, as the reason
> for not crossposting has been lost. Anyone who knew the reason for not
> crossposting would also know not to post individual copies to several
> newsgroups.
you are correct that cross posting is much less trouble than
multiposting the same thing. imho massive cross posting a difficult
or obscure question to reach a wide audience isn't so bad. just
remember to use Followup-To: to limit the response. newsreaders ought
to suggest using a followup-to in case of cross-posting.
--
johan kullstam
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From: "Alma J. Wetzker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: making linux go away
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 17:41:18 -0500
Use fdisk /mbr. That will rewrite your Master Boot Record with the old
DOS one. You can also install Win9x, which rewrites the boot record for
you without asking.
-- Alma
mike mathog wrote:
>
> I did an install of Red Hat at one point, and now I just want it gone.
>
> Using FDISK to blow away the partitions though doesn't seem to do the
> trick. The LILO boot still comes up. If I disconnect the drive and put
> another one there even, then the machine just keeps asking me to reboot
> over and over.
>
> How do I get rid of Linux in the boot sector (I guess that's where it
> is) once and for all?
>
> thanks,
> -mike
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From: "Antony Shepherd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Information required, please
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 23:38:13 +0100
I'm contemplating switching to a Linux system, but there are a few things
I'd like to know, so if anyone has any information of any of these, please
tell me, thanks.
1. I believe I can use my HP 420C colour inkjet with Ghostscript to print
stuff.
Anyone done this and can tell me about the results?
2. I know I can't use my Canon LBP460 - it's a windows printing system
thing. Still, it's over three years old so maybe it's time to buy a new
one:)
3. Does anyone know if it's possible to use a Plustek Optic Pro 4800 scanner
(parallel port) with Linux?
Ta.
--
--
Antony J. Shepherd ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
"And all I want is tea and some chocolate and a book"
-- Steve Wynn
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From: Christopher Mahmood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: *.doc viewer
Date: 26 Apr 1999 02:33:39 -0700
maybe that's it...it's all history now.
-ckm
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From: Christopher Mahmood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: TCL lib- installation
Date: 26 Apr 1999 03:03:38 -0700
$ cat incomprehensible-post | latte-swilling-genX'er-speak2english --
Hello,
I'm trying to install tcl and tk version xx on system and I am getting
an error which I don't understand when I try to compile. I read the
documentation that came with tcl/tk distribution but there's no
mention of this error. I also spent 10 minutes searching on dejanews.
Here are the details on my system:
platform, kernel version, libc ver xx, distribution.
Here is the error message:
' blah blah'.
Thank you in advance for any help you can offer,
Rick.
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From: Christopher Mahmood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: making linux go away
Date: 26 Apr 1999 02:53:32 -0700
you have to call microsoft support for that one...
-ckm
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From: Christopher Mahmood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how people can reply to messages sent by pine
Date: 26 Apr 1999 02:44:49 -0700
afaik, there's nothing you can do in pine except create the
custom headers like you did...well, you could a Dj$w.mydomain.org sort of
thing with sendmail, but that's ugly.
pine seems very inflexible when it comes to anything except undergrads
telneting from a windows to the big campus unix machine.
-ckm
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From: Christopher Mahmood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: S.u.S.E news group
Date: 26 Apr 1999 03:08:50 -0700
i imagine that a suse ng wouldn't do much good (for me) since most of the
traffic would be in Deutch.
I just installed it about a week ago after being a Caldera user for..., well
since pre 1.0--i think it absolutely kicks ass. The setup of the rc files,
yast, the five cd's...i wish I had this when i was starting out.
-ckm
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From: Christopher Mahmood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape 4.51 --> Bus error !!!
Date: 26 Apr 1999 03:15:58 -0700
i had exactly the same problem (same setup, no kde). A bus error usually
indicates an incompatible library. The reason i downloaded 4.5.1 was that
the 4.08 that SuSE came with was unusable. Oddly (or maybe not), 4.08
seems very stable on kernel 2.2.5...maybe you want to stay with that?
-ckm
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From: Christopher Mahmood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Opinions on KDE?
Date: 26 Apr 1999 03:30:33 -0700
change the approp. Xresource to reflect where you want the program to start.
for example, if you wanted xterm to always open at 100,200 -- the top left
corner at the point (100,200)-- then add 'xterm*geometry:+100+200' to
you .Xdefaults file. Many window manager can also handle this.
-ckm
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From: Christopher Mahmood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Next Redhat Linux Release
Date: 26 Apr 1999 02:45:48 -0700
/. reported that it's in the ftp archives already. good luck getting in.
-ckm
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From: Christopher Mahmood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: lilo -v
Date: 26 Apr 1999 02:39:29 -0700
well, it seems simple enough to find out....
-ckm
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From: Christopher Mahmood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape: get flagged mail in newsgroup
Date: 26 Apr 1999 02:38:46 -0700
are you talking about news or mail?
netscape is a pretty crappy newsreader...take the time to
setup a leafnode site and use a real news reader (gnus, trn,
even tin).
see the news leafsite mini-howto for more details.
-ckm
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