Linux-Misc Digest #960, Volume #19 Tue, 27 Apr 99 03:13:21 EDT
Contents:
Re: need help with RPM 3.0 install ("Ron")
Re: want fvwm back, now it is kde when I type startx (Bob Martin)
Re: Need Bmptogif or Bmptopng Converter (brian moore)
Re: Sharing files with the serial port (Scott Lanning)
Re: LS-120 ("D. C. & M. V. Sessions")
Re: *.doc viewer (Jim Richardson)
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (Jim Richardson)
Re: Criminally Insane Programmers Are Attracted To Open Source Code (Maciej
Stachowiak)
Re: HTACCESS HELP! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Epson Stylus Color II printer and Samba 2.0.3 and NT Workstation 4.0 (SP4) == NO
GO :~< ("Bleh")
Re: strange problem with modules (Adam Mitchell)
Re: Oracle8i for Linux: Anyone recieved their CD yet? (Christopher Browne)
Re: Newbie: Learning Linux And Databases (Christopher Browne)
Re: ppp through rs 232 ports (digs)
Re: INN: nntpget (is there a better way to do this?) (Danny Aldham)
Re: X Windows with Afterstep Interface (Christopher Mahmood)
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (Christopher Mahmood)
Re: Opinions on KDE? ("Barry Kauler")
Re: echo \xnnn (Charles Mulks)
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From: "Ron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: need help with RPM 3.0 install
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 17:25:21 -0700
Ron wrote in message <7g2st1$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I installed the new version of RPM in redhat 5.2 with:
>rpm -Uvh rpm 3_0-6_0_i386.rpm
>the next time I tied to use RPM It could not not open the package.rpm and
>said to use --rebuilddb
>Apparently I need to rebuild a database somewhere and possibly point to the
>new rpm executable. Can someone describe how to use this so I can set this
>up properly.
>TIA
After running:
#rpm --rebuilddb
the new RPM 3.0 seems to be running correctly EXCEPT that while in the
Xwindow GUI I cannot launch the package management utility from the control
panel button. I see there are a couple of options for this command [--rcfile
<file>] [--dbpath <dir>] but I'm not sure how to use them (I'm new to linux,
obviously). Anyone know how to fix this?
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Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 20:16:51 -0500
From: Bob Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: want fvwm back, now it is kde when I type startx
if you are using RH edit the file .wm_style in your home directory to
control which window manager is started by startx.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have installed KDE. Now when I type startx, KDE is launched. I don't
> want that. I want to use fvwm. Typing startx fvwm doesn't help. How do I
> get fvwm back?
> Please reply to my email address.
>
> -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------
> http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Subject: Re: Need Bmptogif or Bmptopng Converter
Date: 27 Apr 1999 01:19:49 GMT
On 27 Apr 1999 00:37:05 GMT,
Jason White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <7efnl3$fro$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Gregoire Diehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb in Nachricht ...
> >>Gregoire Diehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> For this i need a program that convert it to gif or png file
> >>
> >>xv and probably any other popular image viewer can do this.
> >
> >I need a programm that convert the file on the commandline,
> >like
> >
> >bmptogif -inputfile -outputfile
>
> Check out the 'convert' program, which is part of the ImageMagick
> package at http://www.wizards.dupont.com/cristy/ImageMagick.html.
>
> The convert program will convert between many image formats as easily as:
>
> convert bmp:myfile.bmp gif:myfile.gif
>
> and allows you to manipulate the image in many ways on the fly.
Easier that that: convert will recognize file types from the extension,
so just: 'convert myfile.bmp myfile.gif' will work.
(And, yes, I use convert to annoy people, since it's amazingly cool and
supports a huge variety of formats. People with multithousand dollar
video machines and they get stuck when given a jpeg. :))
--
Brian Moore | "The Zen nature of a spammer resembles
Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | a cockroach, except that the cockroach
Usenet Vandal | is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
Netscum, Bane of Elves. Peter Olson, Delphi Postmaster
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Lanning)
Subject: Re: Sharing files with the serial port
Date: 27 Apr 1999 01:33:53 GMT
Jason White ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
: Chet Douglas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: >Hello,
: >I have two Linux boxes connected via a null modem cable on the serial
: >ports (no modem involved). What applications or commands will allow me
: >to copy/share files between the two (i.e. a cheap LAN)??? I think Lap
: >Link makes a product to do this but surely there must be some shareware
: >out there that will allow me to do the same!?!??!
: You could set up ppp between the two machines using a couple of reserved
: IP addresses. Then you could use NFS or rcp to copy files between the
: machines.
Here is what I did exactly.
On one machine--call it the server--I typed
pppd -detach crtscts lock 10.0.0.1:10.0.0.2 /dev/cua1 38400 local &
That assumes you have pppd, which probably you do. The local (server)
IP address is 10.0.0.1, and the remote IP address is 10.0.0.2.
These are within the allowable range for LANs. Check out 'man pppd'
for detailed info on the options. (Also note: maybe you should use
/dev/ttyS1 instead, but that's how I got it to work on mine.)
You can check if pppd is running by typing 'ps' on the server
machine. Then you'll see it among the other processes.
Next, on the other machine--call it the client--you type
pppd -detach crtscts lock /dev/cua1 38400 local &
That is, the same thing minus the IP addresses. The client machine
can now just ask the server machine for the addresses, so they
both know who's who. Again, check on the client machine with 'ps'
to see if it's up and running (maybe check the server again, too,
just in case..). That's it! Now, from the client machine,
ftp 10.0.0.1
You need to have a username on the server, though. Probably can't
immediately login as root (though that can be arranged). Then
the rest is like normal ftp. Woohoo! :) --Scott
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From: "D. C. & M. V. Sessions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: LS-120
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:54:40 -0700
Aaron Ginn wrote:
>
> I've seen several posts indicating that the LS-120 works well under
> Linux, but I have not been able to get it to work for me. In reading
> some of the documentation, I gathered that I need to compile the kernel
> to support parallel port devices and parallel port ATAPI disk drives in
> particular. I have rebuilt the kernel (1) with these options built in,
> and (2) as modules. Neither case yielded the desired results. I've
> scoured dejanews, and I haven't found a good answer.
>
> When I boot Linux (I'm currently running 2.2.6), the kernel detects my
> LS-120 (which it sees as /dev/hdd) as an ATAPI device, but tags it as
> unrecognized. Whenever I try to mount the device, I get the "not a
> block device" error. I've tried everything I can think of, but I must
> be missing something. If anyone out there has had success getting this
> drive to work, I'd sincerely appreciate some hints.
This works for us (/etc/fstab)
/dev/hdb /floppy auto user,exec,dev,suid,rw,noauto 0 0
--
Windows: "We can get available on some NT servers up to 99.5% !!!!"
*nix: "Our server availability is 99.99937%.
We're working on the problem."
D. C. & M. V. Sessions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson)
Subject: Re: *.doc viewer
Date: 27 Apr 1999 01:38:36 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 25 Apr 1999 17:28:36 +0000,
Peter Englmaier, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
brought forth the following words...:
>The Dude wrote:
>>
>> Hi I have many *.doc files on my machine (ms - word documents). How do I
>> view them form my linux os? is there an application designed form that? --
>> Regards The Dude
>Yes there is a word reader, but I do not recall its name. Try
>rufus.w3.org
>to find it. You can use 'staroffice' to read/write all word, excel and
>other formats.
mswordview will convert word docs to html.
--
Jim Richardson
www.eskimo.com/~warlock
All hail Eris
"Linux, where do you want to go tomorrow?"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson)
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism
Date: 27 Apr 1999 01:38:38 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 25 Apr 1999 17:43:50 -0400,
hellraiser, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
brought forth the following words...:
>and this is supposed to be a bad thing?? communism is a good system,
>except when the stupid ass dictators use it out in the far- and
>middle-east. i guess they used 'communism', not communism. communism
>has never existed in its pure and true form, it has just been abused.
>karl marx was pretty smart talking about how a class-based society sucks
>(which it DOES). down with capitalism!!!
Karl Marx also began the labour camps that killed millions of Russians, and
the agricultural policies that starved millions more.
A real saint was ol' Karl
--
Jim Richardson
www.eskimo.com/~warlock
All hail Eris
"Linux, where do you want to go tomorrow?"
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From: Maciej Stachowiak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Criminally Insane Programmers Are Attracted To Open Source Code
Date: 26 Apr 1999 18:37:07 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donal K. Fellows) writes:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Joshua E. Rodd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The opposite also occasionally happens; an XY child can be under
> > certain conditions in the mother which prevent the androgens from
> > performing their function properly which results in a female child,
> > developing as a normal female (only diff. would be the
> > aforementioned sex-linked genetic disorders).
>
> There is one other difference - a higher rate of miscarriage since YY
> is not genetically viable IIRC. This might not be noticeable though,
> since I think the failure would happen at a very early stage.
>
> Sex has pretty much nothing to do with X and Y chromosomes - that's
> just where some of the relevant genes are located.
>
You can be XY and appear physically female, or XX and appear
physically male, in fact, there are a number of disorders that can
cause this, but in either case you will be infertile.
- Maciej Stachowiak
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: HTACCESS HELP!
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 02:02:58 GMT
http://www.apacheweek.com/features/userauth
This should help You out!
In article <7fqmnm$j4c$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am trying to setup a secure web server with RH5.1, Apache 1.2 and RH Secure
> Web Server module. Also utilizing HTACCESS for directory security. After
> implementing RH Secure Web Server module, htaccess stops working. Some how,
> httpsd disable htaccess on my web server.
>
> Any suggestion on this problem would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for
> reading.
>
> Michael
>
> -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------
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>
============= Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ============
http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
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From: "Bleh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Epson Stylus Color II printer and Samba 2.0.3 and NT Workstation 4.0
(SP4) == NO GO :~<
Crossposted-To:
comp.protocols.smb,linux.samba,linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.hardware,alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.misc,microsoft.public.windowsnt.misc
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 02:10:34 GMT
> Alternatively, you can setup a "raw" queue on Linux and direct the
> NT's Stylus driver at that.
How do I setup a "raw" queue on Linux? I am running Redhat 6.0, and the
'printtool' dowsn't show "RAW" in the list of available printer drivers.
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From: Adam Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: strange problem with modules
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 02:20:44 GMT
When you switch kernels are you recompiling the module? Maybe you're
linking the printk function from 2.2.5 and trying to run it on a 2.2.1
kernel.
--AM
On Mon, 26 Apr 1999, Nicolas Lorrain wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> I coded the most simple program for a module under Linux :
>
> #define MODULE
> #include <linux/module.h>
> #include <linux/kernel.h>
>
> int init_module (void) { printk (KERN_INFO "Hello World\n"); return 0; }
> void cleanup_module (void) { printk (KERN_INFO "Ciao\n"); }
>
> This program compile without problems, but some strange things appear
> according to the version
> of the Linux kernel.
> When I load it on Linux 2.2.5, no problem.
> When I load it on Linux 2.2.1 this error message is printed :
> simple.o: unresolved symbol printk
>
> To load it, I use the command : insmod simple.o (name of my module)
> To compile my program, I used egcs-2.90.29 980515 (egcs-1.0.3
> release)
>
> Does someone know what's wrong ??
>
> Thanks
>
> Bye
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Crossposted-To: comp.databases,linux.redhat.misc,alt.linux
Subject: Re: Oracle8i for Linux: Anyone recieved their CD yet?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 02:20:56 GMT
On Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:31:31 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 24 Apr 1999 00:12:33 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tony
>Smolar) wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 23 Apr 1999 03:40:23 GMT, Mark A. Scarton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>I took _major_ umbrage with one of their speaker's indication that Oracle was
>>>now in charge of the technical direction of Linux,
>>
>>Wow! In what context was that remark made?
>
>In the context of Orable being ignorant, arrogant suppliers of crap
>"database software" that runs best on a 35mm slide projector.
Thank you for your useful comments. (Not.)
At ALS, the implications that Miner made in his keynote presentation
was that Oracle developers were going to be contributing significant
improvements particularly to filesystem support to do things like
"really raw" partitions.
It is not evident that this has been followed up by actual patches
that have gone into the kernel, and there seems to be little evidence
of any contributions other than the release of Oracle's own
proprietary software.
--
Babbage's Rule: "No man's cipher is worth looking at unless the inventor
has himself solved a very difficult cipher" (The Codebreakers by Kahn,
2nd ed, pg 765)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/rdbms.html>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Newbie: Learning Linux And Databases
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 02:21:00 GMT
On Mon, 26 Apr 1999 13:54:34 +0000, Robert Wuest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Rupinder wrote:
>> ***** This is the scenario:
>> I'm a student... I can afford Linux :)
>> And I know there are some good free and cheap databases out there for
>> Linux.
>
>[snip]
>> What would be the best way to learn everything I need to know about
>> Linux to administer this box - QUICKLY. I need to learn FAST... any
>> suggestion for good ADVANCED books?>
>
>If you really want to learn Linux well and learn it fast. Get a PC and
>a copy of slackware. Do not sleep until it is up and running. Then, do
>it again.
>
>Robert - who learned more from installing Slackware
> 10 times in 2 days than in the 5 years since.
This is an interesting and fairly valuable approach.
Add to this:
- Install the system.
- Do stuff that has the potential to stress the system to the point of
breaking. This includes things like:
- Upgrading LIBC from 5.2.26 (or similar) to GLIBC 2.1
- Upgrading GCC from 2.7.2 (or similar) to a "bleeding edge" EGCS
(which is very soon to become officially GCC)
- Sysadmin stuff like configuring printers, mounting disks via NFS,
...
Try to make sure the system works reasonably well after these
upgrades, but be willing to have it break totally to the point of
requiring reinstallation.
- Make sure you've got some separate partitions for things like /home
and /usr/local so that you can reinstall without being forced to
disturb "your stuff." The process of reinstalling will highlight this
issue.
This process of 'testing to the point of destruction' can allow you to
learn quite a lot quite quickly.
(Or, if it's too much for you, it may be extremely frustrating... If
that proves the case, this may at least establish some boundaries of
what you should and should not try to do...)
--
`I am convinced that interactive systems will never displace batch
systems for many applications.' - Brooks, _The Mythical Man-Month_ (And
this does indeed seem true. MVS/CICS systems have *NOT* gone away...)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (digs)
Subject: Re: ppp through rs 232 ports
Date: 27 Apr 1999 02:20:36 GMT
Reply-To: nts-online.net
Scott-
what goes around comes around,eh?
you did good..
>Ha, I couldn't've asked for a better setup! Here is my posting
--
later on,
digs
:wq
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Danny Aldham)
Subject: Re: INN: nntpget (is there a better way to do this?)
Date: 27 Apr 1999 01:36:46 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2]
Lloyd Weehuizen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
-> Hmm well suck works very nicely, but now i've hit the next stumbling block ;)
->
-> My ISP won't accept the IHAVE command from my innxmit proggie, so now I need a
-> program that will take the news queue and send each article with a POST
-> command, does anyone know of such a thing?
I had the same problem. The script below works for me.
#!/usr/bin/perl -w
# script to post news to smartt , since we are denied on ihave <id>
$|=1;
require News::NNTPClient ;
$c = new News::NNTPClient("news.smartt.com","nntp","0") || die "Network down\n" ;
open(LIST,"/usr/local/news/spool/outgoing/smartt") || die "Nothing to post" ;
while (<LIST>) {
@article="" ;
print "Posting $_ ";
@article_id = split(/ /,$_) ;
# print "Article is $article_id[0] \n";
# open(ARTICLE,"</var//spool/news/$article_id[0]") || die "open $! \n";
open(ARTICLE,"</usr/local/news/spool/articles/$article_id[0]") || warn "open $! \n";
while(<ARTICLE>) {
push(@article,$_) ;
}
close(ARTICLE);
# print @article ;
# $c->post(@host,@article) || print "Cannot post article $! \n";
# Needs work. I jumppoint down, try later. If a duplicate, skip.
# $c->post(@article) || die "Cannot post article $! \n";
if( $c->post(@article)) {
print "Article transfered";
} else {
$result=$c->message ;
print "Article rejected: ", $result,"\n" ;
@result=split(/ /,$result) ;
print "Result 0 is : $result[0] \n";
#unless ($result[0] eq "435") { die "$result" };
unless ($result[0] eq "435" or "205" or "441") { die "$result" };
# { die "Cannot post article $! \n";}
}
}
system("cp /dev/null /usr/local/news/spool/outgoing/smartt");
system("chmod 664 /usr/local/news/spool/outgoing/smartt"); # fix permissions..
system("chown news /usr/local/news/spool/outgoing/smartt");# if run by root
system("chgrp news /usr/local/news/spool/outgoing/smartt");
--
Danny Aldham Postino Dotcom E-mail for Business
www.postino.com Virtual Servers, Mail Lists, Web Databases, SQL & Perl
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From: Christopher Mahmood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: X Windows with Afterstep Interface
Date: 26 Apr 1999 09:22:45 -0700
you mean ~/GNUstep/Library/AfterStep? yes, it's there in a file called
wharf. for example,
*Wharf Applications FileFolders.xpm,4_dots.xpm Folders
*Wharf Xemacs Clipboard.xpm Exec "-" xemacs &
*Wharf Applix applix.xpm Exec "-" /opt/applix/applix&
*Wharf Mathematica mathematica.xpm Exec "-" mathematica &
*Wharf ~Folders
creates a folder with xemacs, applix and mathematica in it.
-ckm
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From: Christopher Mahmood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism
Date: 26 Apr 1999 09:25:19 -0700
Karl Marx started labor camps in Russia??? Where'd you learn that one?
come on man, Soviet Russia had about as much to do w/ Marx as the U.S.
does with democracy.
-ckm
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From: "Barry Kauler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Opinions on KDE?
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 10:39:53 +0800
Leslie,
I moved the top taskbar to the bottom, and I hid the bottom
toolbar (or whatever it's called). When you hide the toolbar,
some icons such as the "K" transfer to the taskbar.
Also select small-size, and auto-hide for the taskbar.
Bingo you have one tiny bar along the bottom, which
hardly ever gets in the way.
I think two bars top and bottom is messy, and the KDE
developers should rethink it.
Regards,
Barry Kauler
P.S. KDE is fantastic. Corel has chosen it for their suite, and I
reckon it will become THE Linux standard.
>Speaking of KDE, I like the task bar across the top but I keep having
>windows get their title bars underneath it and then I can't
>reposition them. Am I doing something wrong? Setting the task
>bar to auto-hide lets me sneak up and grab them when they are
>uncovered, but it seems kind of strange to do it that way.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charles Mulks)
Subject: Re: echo \xnnn
Date: 27 Apr 1999 02:42:24 GMT
In article <7fuv4n$85o$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>
>Hello,
>I want to echo the ascii chars with echo \xnnn where nnn is the octet.
>It does not work (it echos the same thing). I tried echo $\xnnn without
>anymore success.
>How can I have any char from its octal or hexadecimal code ?
>
>Thanks
>
>Fred ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>
>
>
echo -e "\101\n\102"
A
B
(man echo)
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