Linux-Misc Digest #960, Volume #24 Wed, 28 Jun 00 03:13:04 EDT
Contents:
gcc --version ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
changing monitor settings ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Gnome vs KDE ("David Johnson")
Re: getting software (Prasanth A. Kumar)
Re: apropos nothing (Prasanth A. Kumar)
Re: changing monitor settings (Sam Wun)
Need clarification: what really is 'MBR' and what is 'BOOT SECTOR'? ("Charlie Root")
what is jre and arch?? (Sam Wun)
Re: Gnome vs KDE (Matthew Matchura)
Still getting used to permissions...!!!<sigh> (Hendrix)
Re: getting software ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: insmod failed? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
dynamic IP & mail server ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: database benchmarks (Koos Pol)
Re: changing monitor settings ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: getting software ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: apropos nothing ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Still getting used to permissions...!!!<sigh> ("Lonni J. Friedman")
linux swap partition? ("Keith")
ISA nic cards? ("Keith")
Re: linux swap partition? (Andrew Williams)
Re: ISA nic cards? (Andrew Williams)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: gcc --version
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 04:55:12 GMT
Hi,
How come gcc that comes with RH6.2 is "egcs-2.91.66", while an older
distro, Mandrake7.0 comes with "gcc-2.95" ?
(I remember that when I was using Mandrake7.0, RH6.2 wasn't out yet)
Wroot
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: changing monitor settings
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 04:59:23 GMT
Hi,
How can I change the monitor resolution and other settings AFTER
installation of Linux? (Through GUI, if at all possible)
Wroot
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From: "David Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Gnome vs KDE
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 15:16:04 +1000
You can chop and change between window managers as easily as you could
change clothes. But it doesn't stop there, if you choose say gnome over
kde, you arent restricted to gnome tools. I personally prefer the gnome
desktop, but there are a few kde tools I prefer to use, rather than the
gnome equivalent.
Remember, Linux, and everything that comes with it(well just about anyway),
is opensystem, with emphasis on the "Open", which only has a little to do
with copylefting and licence agreements. This basically means that there is
minimal, if any restrictions on whose tools you use, and that greater choice
is made available to you.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message <8jb552$v9g$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Hi,
>
>Should I spend time getting used to KDE or Gnome? I tried both and I
>can't say I developed definite preference. Which desktop most people
>use? I've heard KDE is considered to be more promising (with KDE2 to be
>released soon). How come Gnome is RedHat's default desktop?
>
>Thanks
>
>Wroot
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.
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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: getting software
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Prasanth A. Kumar)
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 05:18:34 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Hi,
>
> How do Linux (RedHat specifically) users usually get software? For
> example, I want Xemacs and Pine. Obviously, I can't search the web with
> altavista and then download rpm's from random sites, as they can be
> trojaned. Is there any standard procedure for getting Linux software
> that I'm not aware of?
>
> Thanks a bunch
>
> Wroot
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
If you have the rpmfind package installed, you can type
rpmfind --apropos xemacs
and it will find packages suitable for your distribution and version
if possible. It works of the database at http://rufus.w3.org. In your
particular case, pine is part of the standard RedHat distribution cd
and Xemacs is part of their supplementary 'powertools' collection.
--
Prasanth Kumar
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: apropos nothing
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Prasanth A. Kumar)
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 05:20:02 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Hi,
>
> After installing RH6.2 I found that "apropos" never returns anything.
> What is wrong? Should I create some sort of index/database or something?
> How?
<snip>
Yes, you need to run '/etc/cron.daily/makewhatis.cron' as root once to
create a index.
--
Prasanth Kumar
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From: Sam Wun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: changing monitor settings
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 15:26:40 +1000
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi,
>
> How can I change the monitor resolution and other settings AFTER
> installation of Linux? (Through GUI, if at all possible)
>
> Wroot
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
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<p>How can I change the monitor resolution and other settings AFTER
<br>installation of Linux? (Through GUI, if at all possible)
<p>Wroot
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<br>Before you buy.</blockquote>
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From: "Charlie Root" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: microsoft.public.windowsnt.misc,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Need clarification: what really is 'MBR' and what is 'BOOT SECTOR'?
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 05:25:55 GMT
While lurking at microsoft.public.windowsnt.misc there was a question by a
lady, "how to uninstall NT but retain 98 because NT bloating her HD?" One
NT guy said 10-minutes to do. I said back up your data and reload 98 at
first drive's primary partition. Two guys insisting their NT/95/98 do MBR
not that I know of. I found
http://www.ntfaq.com/ntfaq/filesystems46.html#filesystems46 explaining it
wrong, no wonder.
See this simple explanation by a Linux geek at
http://www.linux.ps.pl/doc/LDP/LDP/sag-0.5/node36.html
about MBR, boot sectors and partition table and
http://www.linux.ps.pl/doc/LDP/LDP/sag-0.5/node37.html
"figure 4.2: A sample hard disk partitioning." Notice 'boot sector' are
both present in primary and extended partition.
Some years ago I couldn't figure how to multiple boot NT, Linux, 95 and WFW
3.11 in one Intel box using NT OS boot loader so I bought a System Commander
installed it in my primary hard drive's first partition. I reformatted the
hard drive afterwards and reinstalled all OS all over but some d*rn message
kept popping. Surely I whacked the NT boot sector and System Commander
files with just 'format C:\ /U' but why still this weird pop up message
after POST? I was pissed, actually returned the System Commander the V-Com
tech support e-mail reply came too late with 'fdisk /mbr' explaining what is
MBR from boot sector. Some stuff I didn't learn in the university.
I don't have hard time explaining MBR and boot sector to newbies but NT
folks sez MBR is also boot sector. Can you fellah Linux folks explain to
the NT people what is MBR from boot sector? Btw, this is not advocacy
group, so no ranting please.
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From: Sam Wun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: what is jre and arch??
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 15:29:47 +1000
[oracle@swun linux]$ ./runIns.sh\
>
/usr/local/jre/bin/jre: arch: command not found
/usr/local/jre/bin/../bin/checkVersions: arch: command not found
I am not quite understand the above error.
can anyone enlighten me?
Thanks
SAm.
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From: Matthew Matchura <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Gnome vs KDE
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 22:29:23 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Should I spend time getting used to KDE or Gnome? I tried both and I
> can't say I developed definite preference. Which desktop most people
> use? I've heard KDE is considered to be more promising (with KDE2 to be
> released soon). How come Gnome is RedHat's default desktop?
>
> Thanks
>
> Wroot
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
Red Hat wanted to use entirely GNU based software. This includes teh
underlying libs.
KDE is QT based, proprietory/commercial.
GNOME is GTK based, entirely GNU.
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From: Hendrix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Still getting used to permissions...!!!<sigh>
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 02:51:46 -0230
Another couple of questions...*s*
1. How can I set permissions so that other users, besides root, can
execute a certain given program...??? I thought about making a group,
probably called pppusers (or something equivalent)... And making that
group own the pppd file, but I don't see how that would be any different
from setting rwx access for everyone on the pppd program itself...???
If I set the "other" permission on the pppd program, and all scripts
used to access this daemon, to read,write, and execute, then shouldn't
they be able to execute the pppd script...????
2. Is there a method for keeping a user from copying the "/etc/passwd"
file..?? I recently discovered that I have no idea how to stop read
access to this file...??? Well, read access yes, but copying no... I
was hoping that linux would treat copying the same as it would treat the
reading of a file....????
Thanks guys,
Seeya...
Trevor...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: getting software
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 05:43:50 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Prasanth A. Kumar) wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > How do Linux (RedHat specifically) users usually get software? For
> > example, I want Xemacs and Pine. Obviously, I can't search the web
with
> > altavista and then download rpm's from random sites, as they can be
> > trojaned. Is there any standard procedure for getting Linux software
> > that I'm not aware of?
> >
> > Thanks a bunch
> >
> > Wroot
> >
> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Before you buy.
>
> If you have the rpmfind package installed, you can type
>
> rpmfind --apropos xemacs
>
> and it will find packages suitable for your distribution and version
> if possible. It works of the database at http://rufus.w3.org. In your
> particular case, pine is part of the standard RedHat distribution cd
> and Xemacs is part of their supplementary 'powertools' collection.
Surprisingly, Pine isn't part of my RH6.2 (I downloaded CD image) -
"whereis" doesn't find Pine (but finds emacs, e.g.)
Wroot
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: insmod failed?
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Date: 28 Jun 2000 01:54:45 -0400
In comp.os.linux.questions Devon Harding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It's actually enabled at boot up, but fails at 'insmod 3c509'. After the
> system has comeup, I can then manually do 'insmod 3c509' then 'ifconfig eth1
> 192.168.0.1' insmod seems to timeout on boot.
Isn't there an "after" and "before" directive one can use in modules.conf
(I am completely new to Unix, so am not sure of the name)? You may want to
force one of the drivers to wait until the other driver has installed by
using that.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: dynamic IP & mail server
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 05:54:46 GMT
Hi,
I have a DSL service with dynamic IP address, how do I setup
a mail server in my linux. Thank you.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Koos Pol)
Subject: Re: database benchmarks
Date: 28 Jun 2000 06:04:32 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 27 Jun 2000 19:47:50 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
|
|
| Anyone know where I can find some tpc (www.tpc.org) benchmarks for
| databases which run under linux, eg. oracle, sybase, mysql,...?
| Speed and cost comparisons is what I'm looking for.
|
| I couldn't find any linux benchmarks at www.tcp.org
| I'm very curious to see just how these dbms' stack up on linux
| versus other operating systems, eg. windows, solaris, etc.
Considering the fact that dbms's on Linux use regular files i.s.o. raw disks,
I think the outcome will be no surprise. Linux will get a (very) low
ranking...
Koos Pol
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: changing monitor settings
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 23:11:46 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi,
> How can I change the monitor resolution and other settings AFTER
> installation of Linux? (Through GUI, if at all possible)
What specific settings do you want to change?
What distribution of Linux are you running?
You can always edit the /etc/X11/XF86Config file manually, toward the
bottom of it you should have some lines which look like those below.
You can append other resolution settings (provided you've got the
modelines for them) such as 640x480, 800x600, 1024x768, 1280x1024, etc.
Better yet, you can run a utility (XF86Setup is my preferred tool) which
lets you configure X. You may have to install this as it's not standard
with most RedHat and RPM-based Linuxes.
Section "Screen"
Driver "Accel"
Device "Primary Card"
Monitor "Primary Monitor"
DefaultColorDepth 32
SubSection "Display"
Depth 8
Modes "1152x864"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes "1152x864"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1152x864"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 32
Modes "1152x864"
EndSubSection
EndSection
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Evangelist, Opensales, Inc. http://www.opensales.org
What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? Debian GNU/Linux rocks!
http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ K5: http://www.kuro5hin.org
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: getting software
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 23:17:17 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi,
> How do Linux (RedHat specifically) users usually get software? For
> example, I want Xemacs and Pine. Obviously, I can't search the web with
> altavista and then download rpm's from random sites, as they can be
> trojaned. Is there any standard procedure for getting Linux software
> that I'm not aware of?
RedHat users install Debian, then run
$ apt-get install xemacs pine
Debian users skip the installation process <g>.
If you don't care to walk on over to the side of the white hats quite yet,
vendors tend to have download packages on their websites, or mirrors.
ftp://ftp.varesearch.com/pub/mirrors is a good start.
Freshmeat (http://www.freshmeat.net/) is another good general index.
--
Karsten M. Self <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.netcom.com/~kmself
Evangelist, Opensales, Inc. http://www.opensales.org
What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? Debian GNU/Linux rocks!
http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ K5: http://www.kuro5hin.org
GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: apropos nothing
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 23:13:31 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi,
> After installing RH6.2 I found that "apropos" never returns anything.
> What is wrong? Should I create some sort of index/database or something?
> How?
$ echo "nice updatedb" | at now
...as root also works.
--
Karsten M. Self <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.netcom.com/~kmself
Evangelist, Opensales, Inc. http://www.opensales.org
What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? Debian GNU/Linux rocks!
http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ K5: http://www.kuro5hin.org
GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0
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From: "Lonni J. Friedman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Still getting used to permissions...!!!<sigh>
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 02:09:55 -0400
Hendrix wrote:
> Another couple of questions...*s*
> 1. How can I set permissions so that other users, besides root, can
> execute a certain given program...??? I thought about making a group,
> probably called pppusers (or something equivalent)... And making that
> group own the pppd file, but I don't see how that would be any different
> from setting rwx access for everyone on the pppd program itself...???
> If I set the "other" permission on the pppd program, and all scripts
> used to access this daemon, to read,write, and execute, then shouldn't
> they be able to execute the pppd script...????
So that all users can read, write, & execute:
chmod 777 <filename>
>
> 2. Is there a method for keeping a user from copying the "/etc/passwd"
> file..?? I recently discovered that I have no idea how to stop read
> access to this file...??? Well, read access yes, but copying no... I
> was hoping that linux would treat copying the same as it would treat the
> reading of a file....????
If you're using shadow passwords then this is a non issue. Most modern
distro's use shadow passwords, which do not allow any user to read the
file.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TSC - ECR - Pittsburgh
5-232-6850
United Parcel Service
"On the side of the software box, in the 'System Requirements' section,
it said 'Requires Windows 95 or better'. So I installed Linux."
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From: "Keith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux
Subject: linux swap partition?
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 02:46:09 -0400
Hi, I'm thinking of installing linux and I had a question about the linux
swap partition. Is it absolutely necessary to have a 2nd linux partition on
your hard drive just for virtual memory. I have 128MB of RAM in my PC--what
would happen if I installed linux without this swap partition. If it matters
any, I've pretty much narrowed down my linux choices to either CorelLinux or
Mandrake (suggestions?). BTW, I can only install linux using that "linux
ext2 file format," right? I think I read somewhere that linux can recognize
the FAT or FAT32 file format--is this true?--Does this mean that I can also
install linux to a partition using FAT32? Help would be appreciated. Thanks.
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From: "Keith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux
Subject: ISA nic cards?
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 02:47:21 -0400
One more question: Would linux have any problems recognizing an ISA NIC?
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From: Andrew Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: linux swap partition?
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 08:56:09 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have a server with 512MB of memory and still have a (small) swap partition.
The mere existence of a swap file/partition will make things run faster (the
technical explanation can be left to others). This partition does not need to
be a primary partition.
You can use FAT (or maybe even FAT32) for your Linux partition - this is the
'umsdos' stuff, but why should you want to? If you have a partition dedicated
to Linux then it makes sense for it to be EXT2.
Keith wrote:
> Hi, I'm thinking of installing linux and I had a question about the linux
> swap partition. Is it absolutely necessary to have a 2nd linux partition on
> your hard drive just for virtual memory. I have 128MB of RAM in my PC--what
> would happen if I installed linux without this swap partition. If it matters
> any, I've pretty much narrowed down my linux choices to either CorelLinux or
> Mandrake (suggestions?). BTW, I can only install linux using that "linux
> ext2 file format," right? I think I read somewhere that linux can recognize
> the FAT or FAT32 file format--is this true?--Does this mean that I can also
> install linux to a partition using FAT32? Help would be appreciated. Thanks.
>
> --
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> ICQ: 66068365
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From: Andrew Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: ISA nic cards?
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 08:57:07 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Not all of these cards are supported, most of them are.
Keith wrote:
> One more question: Would linux have any problems recognizing an ISA NIC?
>
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