Linux-Misc Digest #5, Volume #20 Sat, 1 May 99 07:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Re: Kernel 2.2.X rpm ("Jim Ross")
Re: Fdisk/df BUG. What should I do? (David Stanaway)
Re: Processes swapping between Processors (James Youngman)
[Help] X11/Intrinsic.h (James Chang)
Re: Xdm on startup? (Neil Rickert)
Re: Xdm on startup? (Tony Smolar)
Strip libc (Tony Smolar)
Good ISP that supports Linux ("Jet")
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522) (Prins Olivier)
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522) (Prins Olivier)
Computer virus threat to Linux? ("Matthew B. Kennedy")
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (Jim Richardson)
Re: How to upgrade Debian? (Benoit Goudreault-Emond)
Hosting recommendation wanted (Kati G�bler)
Re: CLI app: *.jpg -> thumbnail-*.jpg (Sitaram Chamarty)
Re: CTRL-S (John Thompson)
Re: Linux on WinChip? ("Matthew B. Kennedy")
Re: RH 6.0 For Sparc Hardware Requirements ? (William McBrine)
Re: Creating Linux/Dos shared partition? (John Finlayson)
Informix IDS and Kernel 2.2.x (Michael Greulich)
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From: "Jim Ross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Kernel 2.2.X rpm
Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 01:14:14 -0400
Neal Barney wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Dan Nguyen wrote:
>>
>> In comp.os.linux.setup Aaron Dershem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> : Any word on when Red Hat will release a 2.2.X kernel RPM? I downloaded
the
>> : source files from kernel.org, but I'd rather have a painless,
no-brainer
>> : upgrade.
>>
>> Why upgrade your kernel? Shouldn't it becuz you want your system to
>> run more effienciently. So compile your own kernel. Kernel RPMs are
dumb!!!!
>
> This actually, isn't too far from the truth. I just compiled the 2.2.7
>kernel on my machine two days ago. Before I was running standard
>RH5.2. I can't believe the speed increase. I figured it would improve,
>but I had no idea. Oh, and be careful with a kernel RPM. Don't use rpm
>-U {kernel rpm here} That doesn't work like you think it would. Trust
>me. :) I was a newbie once.
>--
>*----------------------------------------------*
>Neal J. Barney Phone: (435) 797-4340
>Space Dynamics Laboratory/USU
>Software Engineering and Networking Group
>*----------------------------------------------*
I thought it was because I compiled for Pentium II.
Much faster. I also like no having to worry about modules.
Kernel RPMS and Source RPMS do seem like a bad idea.
The benefits are too great for .gz, .bz files.
That is truely "open source."
No RPM to worry about.
BTW, if anyone is reading this how does one apply the Alan kernel patches
and also
how does one remove them since I hear you have to before you apply the next?
Thanks, Jim
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Stanaway)
Crossposted-To: aus.computers.linux
Subject: Re: Fdisk/df BUG. What should I do?
Date: 1 May 1999 03:26:57 GMT
Here are some extracts from dmesg:
Linux version 2.2.5 (root@buzz)
(gcc version egcs-2.91.63 19990224 (egcs-1.1.2 pre-release-3))
#1 Fri Apr 9 20:17:03 EST 1999
PIIX3: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 39
PIIX3: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
ide0: BM-DMA at 0xf000-0xf007, BIOS settings: hda:pio, hdb:pio
ide1: BM-DMA at 0xf008-0xf00f, BIOS settings: hdc:pio, hdd:pio
hda: QUANTUM TRB850A, ATA DISK drive
hdc: IBM-DTTA-350840, ATA DISK drive
hdd: NEC CD-ROM DRIVE:271, ATAPI CDROM drive
ide2: ports already in use, skipping probe
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
hda: QUANTUM TRB850A, 810MB w/96kB Cache, CHS=823/32/63, DMA
hdc: IBM-DTTA-350840, 8063MB w/467kB Cache, CHS=16383/16/63, (U)DMA
hdd: ATAPI 4X CD-ROM drive, 256kB Cache
Uniform CDROM driver Revision: 2.54
Partition check:
hda: hda1 hda2
hdc: [PTBL] [4095/64/63] hdc1 hdc2 hdc3
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
Adding Swap: 51404k swap-space (priority -1)
Adding Swap: 62460k swap-space (priority -2)
I have not tried mounting the drive off root yet, but I believe I had
the same problem when I was installing the new drive and the partions
were mounted on
/mnt/hdc2
/mnt/hdc3
I will try mounting hdc3 off / now.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Richard RUDEK wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Stanaway) wrote:
>>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Stanaway wrote:
>>>I have an unusual and distrubing bug here:
>>>Disk /dev/hdc: 64 heads, 63 sectors, 4095 cylinders
>>>
>>>Units = cylinders of 4032 * 512 bytes
>>>
>>> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
>>>/dev/hdc1 1 31 62464+ 82 Linux swap
>>>/dev/hdc2 32 793 1536192 83 Linux native
>>>/dev/hdc3 794 4095 6656832 83 Linux native
>>>
>>>Command (m for help): q
>>>buzz:~# df -h
>>>Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
>>>/dev/hdc3 1.4G 1.3G 30M 98% /usr/local
>>>/dev/hdc2 1.4G 1.3G 30M 98% /usr
>>>
>>>buzz:/usr/local# du -hs
>>>743M .
>>>buzz:/usr/local# cd ..
>>>buzz:/usr# du -hs
>>>1.3G .
>>>
>>>
>>>Why is df showing the combined used for /usr and /usr/local
>>>for both /usr and /usr/local
>>>and the other /usr/local stats match /usr when they shoudn't
>>>
>>>Should I be VERY concerned about this, or only mildly.
>>>Dist is Debian 2.1 (Well it is 2.2 now.. but I had the same prob with 2.1)
>>>The kernel is 2.2.5 but I had the same probe with 2.2.3 ans 2.0.36
>>>
>>>Df is from GNU filesys utils 4.0
>>>
>>>I dread to think what will hapen when the combined size of the two partions
>>>contents climbs above the capacity of the first partion.
>>>
>>
>>Please, my disks are now `full' when in reality one is half full and the other
>>is hardly being used.
>>
>>I have had no leads on this problem and would welcome any hunches that people
>>have.
>
>[snip]
>
>OK then,
>
>What happens if you mount hdc3 off the root directory ?
>
>Are they EXT2 Filesystems ?
>
>Are the Filesystems intact ?
>
>What capacity is the HDD - 8GB ?
>
>What EIDE chipset ?
>
>Other EIDE devices ?
> __ __ _______________________________
> //)) //)) | Richard RUDEK. MicroDek. | Hey, it's Friday night...
>//\\ //\\ | Chatswood, Sydney. Australia. | C:\WORK> CD \
> `-------------------------------'
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From: James Youngman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Processes swapping between Processors
Date: 27 Apr 1999 21:33:05 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (James V. Di Toro III) writes:
> I'm having a problem w/ a new SMP system.
>
> I purchased a Dual P3 500Mhz system to do some scientific processing.
> A normal process takes arround 100-300MB memory, and can take hours to
> days to process at 95% CPU even on a P2 400. So when I put two of
> these prcesses on the Dual P3 and I have a problem. It seems that
> the processes will flip flop between the CPUs, and there is an
> inordinate about of time being spent doing 'system' processing.
> Unfortunately I have no way to prove this is happening since you can't
> see what process is on what CPU when.
>
> The only evidince I have for this is watching 'xosview'. Both
> processors will be going along with a full load, mostly 'user' and
> then they will both drop off and be fully loaded w/ 'system'.
> Needless to say this makes the system incredibly slow. Any other
> activity at all takes forever, including the 'xosview' (or a top) to
> see what's going on.
"strace -c -p [pid]" at the appropriate time may help.
--
ACTUALLY reachable as @free-lunch.demon.(whitehouse)co.uk:james+usenet
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From: James Chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Help] X11/Intrinsic.h
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 04:02:05 +0800
Hi there
Can anybody tell me how to get the file?
Thanks in advance
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Neil Rickert)
Subject: Re: Xdm on startup?
Date: 30 Apr 1999 21:38:35 -0500
Giuseppe Milicia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>I know it's a stupid question... But how do I run Xdm on
>startup??
You edit '/etc/inittab', and change the 'initdefault' line
from '3' to '4'.
If you want to experiment before making the change, the (as root),
use:
telinit 4
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tony Smolar)
Subject: Re: Xdm on startup?
Date: 1 May 1999 02:35:04 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 01 May 1999 02:41:08 +0200, Giuseppe Milicia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I know it's a stupid question... But how do I run Xdm on
>startup??
There is no stupid question. (Except maybe "Where's the 'any' key?")
Starting xdm is slightly distribution dependant, but the answer should be in
the /etc/inittab file.
On Red Hat, for example, you will see the line:
id:3:initdefault
change it to
id:5:initdefault
The '3' and '5' are called "runlevels". initdefault is the default run
level that you boot into. Run level 5 means go into X.
Other distributions may number the runlevels different, but the /etc/inittab
should be commented enough that you can figure out what to do.
>Thanks,
>
>-- Giuseppe
--
Tony Smolar
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] home email
http://www.ultranet.com/~asmolar homepage
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tony Smolar)
Subject: Strip libc
Date: 1 May 1999 02:40:54 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I noticed that on RH5.2, glibc is about 3 megs and not stripped, and it can
be stripped back to 650K. Is there a good reason not to do this?
--
Tony Smolar
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] home email
http://www.ultranet.com/~asmolar homepage
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From: "Jet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Good ISP that supports Linux
Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 01:24:43 -0700
Can anyone suggest a good ISP that supports Linux? I am in the LA area and
would like unlimited access with no set up fee, a good news feed and a UNIX
shell account.
Thanks.
J
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From: Prins Olivier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522)
Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 10:18:42 +0200
Peter Seebach wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Prins Olivier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >What do you get for your tradeoff when using Windows???...
>
> Video games, support from a lot more vendors, and an arguably more convienent
> installer. (I personally don't think it's as flexible, but it *is* awfully
> convenient. When it works at all.)
>
> Windows has a much larger variety of application software out for it, this
> year. That's a trade-off. It's not one I generally want to make.
>
>
Yes you do get more video games, but that isn't a fair trade-off, if Linux would
be in the position Windows is in they would all be Linux games. And any video
game you play with Linux runs better, than it does under Windows, for which they
are made....
--
Running Windows on a PIII, is like driving a $200,000 Porsche only backwards.....
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From: Prins Olivier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522)
Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 10:33:25 +0200
Peter Seebach wrote:
>
> If you limit "capitalism" to "that subset of economic activities that were
> possible in a world where only physical products made sense", you can get any
> results you want.
>
> Free software is a significant change in the use of capital; it's still about
> using capital and labor to make more capital.
>
Hey. If a system uses capital it doesn't automatically mean that the system is
capitalism...
--
Running Windows on a PIII, is like driving a $200,000 Porsche only backwards.....
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From: "Matthew B. Kennedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Computer virus threat to Linux?
Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 19:16:29 +1000
Are there any threats to Linux systems from computer virii?
--
Matthew B. Kennedy
Research Centre in Speech, Audio and Video Technology
Queensland University of Technology
Australia
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson)
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism
Date: 1 May 1999 05:26:00 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 30 Apr 1999 00:59:15 -0700,
jik-, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
brought forth the following words...:
>> You are absolutely correct! I typed Karl Marx when I should have typed
>> Lenin (oops)
>>
>> Lenin did all these things. Marx was simply clueless.
>
>Actually, I think you are mistaken....your probably thinking of Stalin.
No, although Stalin "wins" in the death count, and "wins" by a country mile.
Lenin began the concentration camps, and the agricultural policies that
begat starvation.
>From Prof Caplan's FAQ on the history of Communism...
Slave labor camps, also known as "concentration camps," "forced
labor camps," and "re-education camps," have played a vital role
in Communist systems from the very beginning. Lenin's secret
police, the Cheka, began to set up concentration camps in 1918;
the first official admission appears to have been made by Leon
Trotsky, who threatened rebellious Czech forces with confinement
in concentration camps if they refused to join the Red Army. The
number confined during Lenin's reign was by later standards
modest, apparently no more than 100,000; but from the outset
concentration camps were set up in the unbearable climates of
Siberia and northern Russia, and used for extremely demanding
tasks such as canal digging, timber cutting, and mining. Such
conditions would have tested the endurance of anyone, but they
became deadly when combined with the small amounts of food and
inadequate clothing issued to prisoners: the annual death rate in
Lenin's slave labor camps generally ranged between 10-30% per
year. (Thus, the odds of surviving a five- year sentence ranged
from 20-60%). Moreover, the high death rate required continuous
large-scale arrests merely to keep the prison population stable.
--
Jim Richardson
www.eskimo.com/~warlock
All hail Eris
"Linux, where do you want to go tomorrow?"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Benoit Goudreault-Emond)
Subject: Re: How to upgrade Debian?
Date: 1 May 1999 05:55:03 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <7ge0cv$36p$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Benoit
Goudreault-Emond wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Scott Banwart wrote:
> > Would it be better for me to just compile and install from .tar.gz
> > archives into /usr/local, or should I look into creating my own .deb
> > packages from the
> > sources? I'm afraid of installing a program from .tar.gz and having
> > library conflicts,
> > or finding out that I don't like a particular program and having major
> > problems removing it from my system. Any help would be greatly
> > appreciated.
>
> WARNING WARNING WARNING
> I have used the following procedure with success, but it may fail miserably
> depending on changes in packages. It could successfully hose currently
> working versions and programs depending on some libraries without any
> warnings. BEWARE!
> WARNING WARNING WARNING
That said, you may want to compile directly. If you're worried about
de-installing stuff, use symlinks instead of make install, or change the
Makefile so symlinks are created. This way, you can delete your homegrown
stuff by killing the appropriate directory(ies) in /usr/local/src, and
you're left with dangling links which are easy to delete with judicious use
of find IIRC.
The procedure I gave works rather well with packages that don't have a lot
of packages depending on them. The other way may be... well... problematic,
especially when you want to upgrade.
I think there's a replacement for /sbin/install that logs what it does so
you can step back and uninstall. Check out freshmeat.net--that's where I
saw it.
Good luck!
--
Benoit Goudreault-Emond
CoFounder, KMS Group ; Student, B. Comp. Eng, Concordia University
``Being too close to a fireball can worry a man --- to death.''
-- Zeb Carter in "The Number of the Beast" by Robert A. Heinlein
Note: the "From:" address is not correct to protect myself against spam.
My actual e-mail address is: ``bgoudem AT axess DOT com''
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From: Kati G�bler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.questions
Subject: Hosting recommendation wanted
Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 12:28:21 +0200
Hello,
Can anyone recommend a good provider? I am looking for a hosting
provider to host about 10 domains/Web Sites.
It has to be Apache, and must run on UNIX, the service can be located
anywhere, but should have plenty bandwidth capacity to efficiently serve
web pages and CGI applications internationally.
I would appreciate any recommendations.
Thanks,
Kati
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sitaram Chamarty)
Subject: Re: CLI app: *.jpg -> thumbnail-*.jpg
Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 10:38:46 GMT
On Wed, 28 Apr 1999 21:57:38 GMT, Dav Coleman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm looking for something which will take a jpg file and create a thumbnail
>jpg version. pnmscale will do this with pnm files, but i'm not sure how to
>convert pnm<->jpg and although 'man pnmscale' mentions a 'pnm' proggie, i
>didn't get that installed from rpm along with pnmscale.
None of the answers mentioned ImageMagick (one did, actually, but
didnt give the "real" solution).
convert input.jpeg -geometry 40x40 output.jpeg
convert is part of the ImageMagick suite. The same program can be
used to - of course - convert! There are other programs in the
suite (display, combine, mogrify, animate, identify, import...)
In particular, combine and mogrify sound interesting...must
check..
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CTRL-S
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 17:18:02 -0600
Jonas wrote:
> Stu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > I've noticed that within a virtual console CTRL-S disables the keyboard.
> > I am sure this is not a bug, so what is its purpose. I can only think
> > that it could be to lock the console for whilst away from the keyboard,
> > but if so how do you unlock it ?
>
> I'm not sure exactly what the purpose of it is, but whilst messing
> around with it, I found that pressing CTRL-Q sends whatever you typed
> after CTRL-S to the console. Pressing CTRL-C after CTRL-S seems to
> cancel the CTRL-S situation and returns you to your normal prompt.
>
> Anybody know what this is for? Is it just for some sort of keyboard
> capture or delayed command entry?
As somebody else noted, these are the ascii representations
of various terminal controls: ctrl-x=XOFF ctrl-q=XON,
ctrl-c=BREAK
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: "Matthew B. Kennedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux on WinChip?
Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 20:48:28 +1000
What's a Winchip?
--
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:7gcsm5$70e$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Glenn, That was my concern as well when I installed Linux as my primary OS
> on my machine (by accident mind you, was trying to do a dual-boot and
chose
> "server" DOH!!! Lost all my files!), I have the Winchip 200mhz cpu in my
> linux box running with no problems at all, (maybe RedHat 5.2 has something
to
> do with it? not sure...).
>
> HTH
> -Sergio
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Glenn T. Jayaputera) wrote:
> > Would Linux works on WinChip based system?
> > or this CPU is only for stupid Windows?
> >
> > thanks
> > glenn
> >
> >
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William McBrine)
Subject: Re: RH 6.0 For Sparc Hardware Requirements ?
Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 10:46:36 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc Nick Boyce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: We currently run a web server on a Sun Sparcstation 20 using Redhat
: Linux 4.2 for Sparc. We believe this release is *not* Y2K compliant,
Why do you believe that?
--
William McBrine | http://www.clark.net/~wmcbrine/
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | ./\./\./\./\./\./\./\./\./\./\.
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From: John Finlayson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.list,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Creating Linux/Dos shared partition?
Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 10:46:50 GMT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
On 30/04/99, 19:05:24, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rob Lockhart)=20
wrote regarding Re: Creating Linux/Dos shared partition?:
<SNIP>
> : You can now read those files as anyone, and write to them as root.
> : (Since DOS does not have owners, linux has made the conservative
> : assumption that it should be root who owns those files.)
Is there any way to allow a user other than root to write to a dos=20
partition?
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From: Michael Greulich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Informix IDS and Kernel 2.2.x
Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 10:10:55 +0200
Hi there,
I know you've to apply a patch to kernel 2.0.36 if you want to run the
Informix Dynamic Server, but I didn't found a patch for the kernel 2.2.x
anywhere.
Does anybody have an idea where to get it??
--
later, .\\ichael
E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WWW: http://members.tripod.de/michag/
"/earth is 98% full ... please delete anyone you can."
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