Linux-Misc Digest #18, Volume #20 Sun, 2 May 99 08:13:08 EDT
Contents:
How old is the penguin mascot? (Joe Smith)
HylaFax: Success stories wanted ("Anja Swoboda")
Re: Blac icons in Netscape (Matthias Warkus)
Re: Computer virus threat to Linux? (Matthias Warkus)
Re: Kernel compilation fails couldn't connect to display ("Torsten Jenkner")
Re: A new video card (Alan Fang)
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522) (Prins Olivier)
i need a file (aamon)
Re: Idiot Seeks Help 5: Soundcards (Brad Mills)
Re: Creating Linux/Dos shared partition? (Przem Kowalczyk)
Re: Memory being limited to 16M (Przem Kowalczyk)
Re: Free US$5 for your gambling (Juz)
Re: Creating Linux/Dos shared partition? (John Finlayson)
Re: Email with Earthlink, Sendmail, exmh, mh, Linux libc5 (Andrew Gideon)
Re: Computer virus threat to Linux? (Tom Christiansen)
Re: RED HAT 5.. KERNEL PANIC! (Jon Martin Solaas)
Re: q3test video problems (Steven Carstensen)
Re: IP masquarade & IP forwarding ("Evan R. Battle")
building a custom linux inst. disk ("Jens Axelsen")
Q: What can I do when SVGALIB did not support my video card(chipset)??? (ei)
Re: Windows NT vs. Linux testing by mindcraft (Pascal Gienger)
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Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 03:54:31 -0700
From: Joe Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How old is the penguin mascot?
How old is Tux? I tried searching for the date of his inception on
http://www.isc.tamu.edu/~lewing/linux/ and
http://www.linux.org/info/penguin.html but had no luck.
-Joe
--
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UNIX and Tech Sup: TYMNET Network, Xstream Packet Services (Public X.25)
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2560 N 1st St, MS-5046/746, San Jose, CA 95131
Voice: 408-533-6220 = vnet 854-6220 Fax: 408-533-6702 = vnet 854-6702
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Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Anja Swoboda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: HylaFax: Success stories wanted
Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 11:52:03 +0200
Hi there,
I am just about to plan a Linux based fax server system and at the first
glance HylaFax looks very impressive.
Is anybody running HylaFax on Linux in a production environment
with success ? Especially I am looking for a reliable and robust fax
server solution.
Any alternatives to Hylafax ?
For those of who run it with success I would be most happy to hear about
your modem equipment and configuration.
Thanks,
Stefan Swoboda
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Subject: Re: Blac icons in Netscape
Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 14:02:03 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the Fri, 30 Apr 1999 19:49:25 +0100...
..and Gavin McCord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jakup Michaelsen wrote:
>
> <SNIP>
>
> Which video card do you have, and what colour depth do you run X in?
> I have an S3 Virge DX video card and it isn't well supported. It doesn't like
> 24bpp, and gives those black icons in Netscape. In 16bpp and 32bpp it's ok. It
> may be improved by upgrading to a newer version of X, I'm not sure. Also, use
> the SVGA server rather than the S3 one.
ITYM "a newer version of XFree86".
X's version is X11R6.3, soon to be X11R6.4, but normally it doesn't
change often.
mawa
--
"I'm often a little behind myself."
-- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Subject: Re: Computer virus threat to Linux?
Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 14:03:14 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the Sat, 1 May 1999 19:16:29 +1000...
..and Matthew B. Kennedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Are there any threats to Linux systems from computer virii?
Nearly zero. But security holes, worms and Trojan horses are a
problem, just like on any other Unix system. Remember, though, that
we've been living with security threats for more than twenty years and
thus, lots of holes have already been patched.
mawa
--
Lay me down, Carolina, lay me down, one more time, don't wanta wake me
up in the morning, no more. Sing me, one last old song, before they
close, the minstral show.
-- The Carter Family and Garrison Keilor, A Prairie Home Companion.
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From: "Torsten Jenkner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kernel compilation fails couldn't connect to display
Date: 2 May 1999 10:06:41 GMT
Hello, thanx for your answers, but i am not trying to compile from the
command line, but i am compiling with the menu command in the KDE1.0
(Compiling Kernel)
so what's wrong in that case?
Torsten Jenkner
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From: Alan Fang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A new video card
Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 03:32:40 -0700
Matt, is that you from rec.bikes?!?! wow.
Anyway, there are two rules of thumb (rule of thumbs?) in 2D:
1) 2D performance doesn't matter anymore anyways, so get some cheap
nappy card.
2) Get a Matrox card.
One I would suggest is Matrox Productiva G100 4MB. It runs very well
under windows, but seems to run not very fast under KDE (XFree86?).
(Anybody wanna help out here?...) But then again, I'm new at Linux. If
you plan to use this card in the future on a very hi res monitor, then
mebbe you should get the 8MB versoin.
Alan Fang (the guy with the Rock Shox Judy)
Note to usenet people: Don't reply to this email address as the account
is closing soon. But if you really wanna, change the jc in the email
address to js.
Matt O'Toole wrote:
>
> I need some video card recommendations. I now have an on-board ATI Mach 64
> w/ 2 MB, and I need more oomph to run Netscape and GIMP, preferably at
> 1024x768, and 24 or 16 bpp. I get a lot of color map errors at 800x600, and
> GIMP won't even run. Win 98 performance is important too, but I think X is
> the main concern, since it seems a bit more video-hungry. I'm not a gamer,
> so I don't really care about 3D (yet). I want to invest in a card that will
> last me awhile, so I can move it over to a new machine in the next year or
> so.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Matt O.
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From: Prins Olivier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522)
Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 12:39:42 +0200
Martin Ozolins wrote:
> brian moore wrote in message ...
> >On Sat, 01 May 1999 22:04:26 GMT,
> > Peter Seebach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >> brian moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >On Sat, 01 May 1999 18:13:47 GMT,
> >> > Peter Seebach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >There isn't a zero-cost word processor for Windows (unless you count
> >"NotePad") -- but Linux has many, including WP8 if your not in a
> >commercial setting, or LyX and AbiWord if you're at work. Add in
> >StarOffice and Applixware that are included with some distributions and
> >you've got a healthy choice of software that comes with the OS.
> >
> Not exactly, Write was included since Win 3.1 and Word pad is included since
> Win95's outset. Both will make letters and memo's etc fairly effiecently
> and save them in RTF. WordPad will open Word Doc's too.
>
Just a small comment here..i dont think you've ever tried to open a Word .doc
document with Wordpad, because you wouldn't have said it works if you had
tried....If you would have tried it you would have seen that it shows you a nice
big lot of garbage..
--
Running Windows on a PIII, is like driving a $200,000 Porsche only
backwards.....
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From: aamon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: i need a file
Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 20:47:03 +1000
i have installed libpng manyy times but it keeps asking for a file
called libpng.so.0
does any one have this or know how to fix it???
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brad Mills)
Subject: Re: Idiot Seeks Help 5: Soundcards
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 14:47:42 GMT
In article <7fv9u7$ea5$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Dave Tansley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>However, when I try to play any kind of sound whatsoever, no luck....X11AMP
>no longer reports "can't open audio device", but also doesnt actually
>produce any sound, suggesting that something is vaguely right, but still
>screwy. Rather than actually playing the file, it stays on 0:00 without
>progressing through it....does this mean that its not streaming data to the
>audio device?
To get sound working on my machine, I had to boot into DOS, run
the sound card setup program, and soft-boot linux via LOADLIN.
This is with a real C.L. Awe32.
Brad
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Przem Kowalczyk)
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.list,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Creating Linux/Dos shared partition?
Date: 1 May 1999 20:47:02 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
John Finlayson in comp.os.linux.misc wrote:
>
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
>
>On 30/04/99, 19:05:24, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rob Lockhart)
>wrote regarding Re: Creating Linux/Dos shared partition?:
>
>
><SNIP>
>
>> : You can now read those files as anyone, and write to them as root.
>> : (Since DOS does not have owners, linux has made the conservative
>> : assumption that it should be root who owns those files.)
>
>Is there any way to allow a user other than root to write to a dos
>partition?
Yes. You have to add the following keywords to mount options:
gid=xxx (to change group) or/and
uid=xxx (to change owner)
you can also add
umask=xxx (to set permissions)
Przem
--
It is cold in heaven.
but no-one's coming after me.
R.E.M
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Przem Kowalczyk)
Subject: Re: Memory being limited to 16M
Date: 1 May 1999 21:02:11 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Matthew R Ashe in comp.os.linux.misc wrote:
>I have RedHat 5.2 with the 2.2.7 kernel. I noticed X was taking an
>extremly long time to bring up Netscape, as well as a few other programs.
>When I checked the system info, X reported there was 13M being used and 3M
>free. I actually have 128M memory. The system definitely seems to be
>swapping out. If I append mem=128M to lilo.conf or enter it at bootup, I
>get various messages telling me somthing is wrong and the system freezes.
>Take the line out, all is well. I am not a long time Linux user, I've
>mainly used NT 3 and NT4, play a few games on 98. I would love to say
>goodbye to MS on a more or less permanent basis, but so far I can't master
>Linux enough to get the things I need done day to day. I am getting a LOT
>closer though, and my programming (3 years college, no real world
>experience) is getting better. I am miffed how to get this seemingly
>simple problem fixed(it is simple, right???. Any help would greatly be
>appreciated.
Perhaps you have got 'Memory hole at 15MB' in Bios turned on.
Przem
--
open the window
and lift into your dreams
R.E.M
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From: Juz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.m68k,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.powerpc
Subject: Re: Free US$5 for your gambling
Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 03:09:51 -0400
I wish I was god.
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From: John Finlayson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.list,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Creating Linux/Dos shared partition?
Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 12:20:58 +0000
Thanks Przem - as someone else pointed out to me, I should have spotted
that in the mount man!
Przem Kowalczyk wrote:
> John Finlayson in comp.os.linux.misc wrote:
> >
> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
> >
> >On 30/04/99, 19:05:24, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rob Lockhart)
> >wrote regarding Re: Creating Linux/Dos shared partition?:
> >
> >
> ><SNIP>
> >
> >> : You can now read those files as anyone, and write to them as root.
> >> : (Since DOS does not have owners, linux has made the conservative
> >> : assumption that it should be root who owns those files.)
> >
> >Is there any way to allow a user other than root to write to a dos
> >partition?
>
> Yes. You have to add the following keywords to mount options:
> gid=xxx (to change group) or/and
> uid=xxx (to change owner)
> you can also add
> umask=xxx (to set permissions)
>
> Przem
>
> --
> It is cold in heaven.
> but no-one's coming after me.
> R.E.M
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Gideon)
Crossposted-To:
comp.mail.sendmail,comp.mail.mh,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Email with Earthlink, Sendmail, exmh, mh, Linux libc5
Date: 18 Apr 1999 22:00:45 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jim Henderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>If I had to guess, I'd guess that these providers got tired of receiving
>spam from Earthlink and have denied access to the entire domain because
>Earthlink refuses to deal with spam appropriately.
>
>Just a guess...
>
It might be a variation of this, too.
For example, many places use either a public or private list of
IP addresses that are dialups. SMTP connections from these addresses
are disallowed. As was pointed out, this is a way that the problem
of junk email is being attacked.
Then, there are other possibilities.
The best best is to ask GULF.NET why specifically these messages
are being rejected. We get requests like this every so often
(although we try to keep this down with SMTP errors messages that
are more informative than "access denied"). GULF.NET is the proper
place to address your question because it is (judging from
your message) pompano.pcola.gulf.net that is rejecting the SMTP
traffic.
Most likely, they'll be happy to explain why (although you should
be ready for a suggestion that you change ISPs). If it does turn
out to be that GULF.NET rejects connections from dialups, then the
solution is to (as others have pointed out) pass all your SMTP
traffic via Earthlink's servers. This actually has other advantages
for you as well, so it's a good idea regardless of the problem
with GULF.NET.
- Andrew
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From: Tom Christiansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Computer virus threat to Linux?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Christiansen)
Date: 2 May 1999 04:54:53 -0700
[courtesy cc of this posting sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to via mail]
In comp.os.linux.misc, Mircea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
:Mind you, there's at least a couple dozen biology books that will tell
:you [THIS IS AN INCORRECT WRAP BY A CRAPPY NEWSREADER]
:wrong - the term "virii" exists well and strong, although its meaning
:was [THIS IS AN INCORRECT WRAP BY A CRAPPY NEWSREADER]
:distorted by the original poster. "Virus" is a collective term, it
:designates a population, or even a whole species. Its plural is
:"viruses", [THIS IS AN INCORRECT WRAP BY A CRAPPY NEWSREADER]
:referring to multiple species - exactly the relationship between
:"people" [THIS IS AN INCORRECT WRAP BY A CRAPPY NEWSREADER]
:and "peoples". "Virion" designates a single individual in the "virus"
:population, i.e. a single infectious particle, and its plural is
:"virii": [THIS IS AN INCORRECT WRAP BY A CRAPPY NEWSREADER]
:group of members of the same species.
Please give exact citations of these "couple of dozen" so-called biology
books that employ the non-word "virii". The first half-dozen or so should
suffice. Please make sure your citations are complete with title, date
and place of publication, page number, and several surrounding sentences
for context. Biology books only, please.
The OED has this to say about "virion":
Etymology: a. Fr. virion (A. Lwoff et al. 1959, in Ann. de l'Inst. Pasteur
XCVII. 286), f. vir-us virus + -i- + -on -on[1].
The complete, infective form that a virus has outside a host cell,
with a core and a capsid.
1959 Ann. de l'Inst. Pasteur XCVII. 288 - The viral infective system,
the virion, may be considered as a clathrate type of compound in
which the genetic component is enclosed in a coat or capsid formed
of subunits or capsomeres.
1967 K. M. Smith Insect Virol. i. v - The virion is, structurally
and physiologically, different from any cellular organelle and
from any microorganism.
1975 Sci. Amer. May 25/2 - An electron micrograph of the polio-virus
virion (the virus particle) reveals a sphere 17 nanometers
(millionths of a millimeter) in diameter... The virion consists
only of protein and the nucleic acid RNA.
You will note that unlike words like "criterion" and "ganglion" whose
indicated plurals clearly connote a rule of "-ion" => "-ia", in the case
of "virion" no such irregular plural has been specified, which means that
the normal "$" => "-s" rule for creating English plurals should
remain in effect for this word.
Further research indicates that this is indeed the case. Numerous
examples of this in reputable publications available upon request,
although I suspect that you can discover them on your own easily enough.
Try searching altavista for both "virion" and "virions" to see how
this works. By way of contrast, now try looking around for "virion"
and "virii" occurring together on the same page. Neither shall you
discover "viri" in any reputable publication either.
Here is the abbreviated form of what the OED says about "virus":
Etymology: a. L. virus slimy liquid, poison, offensive odour or
taste. Hence also Fr., Sp., Pg. virus.
1 Venom, such as is emitted by a poisonous animal. Also fig.
2 Path. a A morbid principle or poisonous substance produced in the
body as the result of some disease, esp. one capable of being
introduced into other persons or animals by inoculations or
otherwise and of developing the same disease in them. Now
superseded by the next sense.
b Pl. viruses. An infectious organism that is usu. submicroscopic, can
multiply only inside certain living host cells (in many cases
causing disease) and is now understood to be a non-cellular
structure lacking any intrinsic metabolism and usually
comprising a DNA or RNA core inside a protein coat (see also
quot. 1977). [ Formerly referred to as filterable viruses,
their first distinguishing characteristic being the ability to
pass through filters that retained bacteria. ]
c colloq. A virus infection.
3 fig. A moral or intellectual poison, or poisonous influence. Also in
weakened use, an infectious fear, anxiety, etc.
4 Violent animosity; virulence.
5 attrib. and Comb., as (sense 2 b) virus disease, infection,
particle; virus-carried, -containing, -free, -induced, -infected,
-like adjs.; virus pneumonia, pneumonia caused by a virus rather
than a bacterium.
Notice that it lists the plural as "viruses". Not "viri". Not "virii".
Just "viruses".
I have never heard of a "-ion" => "-ii" rule, be it in Greek or in
English, nor can I discover any exemplars in which this alleged rule
is active. Until such time as you prove otherwise, I shall continue to
consider "virii" nothing more than a perverse, analphabetic corruption.
Happy searching. It is a good day for enlightenment.
--tom
--
"Unix is the answer, but only if you phrase the question very carefully."
- Belinda Asbell
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Subject: Re: RED HAT 5.. KERNEL PANIC!
From: Jon Martin Solaas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 02 May 1999 13:42:42 +0200
"T.vanBarneveld" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> System used: 486DX2 66 /4 Mb mem / 2x ISA TCP/IP / 520Mb HD / 4x CDROM
>
> Installing from CD (RedHat 5) / Created the bootdisk & ramdisk disk
> /Fdisked and formatt my HD (one partition) and reset my system.
>
> Install menu starts up just fine, used standard install, it detects al
> my Hardware,initializes the ramdisks, finds the right partition, BUT
> THEN :
> TRYING TO MOUNT , COMPRESSED IMAGE FOUND AT BLOCK 0 , KERNEL PANIC!!!!
>
RedHat 5.X needs at least 8MB RAM to install, even if a minimal
installation will run in only 4MB afterwards. You should also get
yourself a swap-partition.
Try to install a more minimalistic distribution instead, for instance
the floopy-based one from the Linux Router Project.
--
Jon Martin Solaas
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Steven Carstensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: q3test video problems
Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 02:38:51 -0500
yep, it turned out that was indeed the problem. Plus, I had to
reconfigure X so that it knew I could run in 16 bit, 640 x 480 mode. The
README for q3test mentions the 16bpp thing, but gives the wrong command
line, and startx doesn't complain about options it ignores. Oh well,
it's all good and fixed now. Thanks, though.
STC
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From: "Evan R. Battle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: IP masquarade & IP forwarding
Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 07:51:00 -0400
Since you are using RedHat you can edit the /etc/sysconfig/network
so that FORWARD_IPV4=true
also, have you added the appropriate lines to your etc/rc.d/rc.local file
/sbin/depmod -a
/sbin/modprobe ip_masq_*
.
.
.
ipfwadm -F -p deny
ipwadm -F -a m -S 192.*.*.*/24 -D 0.0.0.0/0
.
.
.
Perhaps you may want to upgrade to the newer 2.2.x kernel and use ipchains.
I am using IP masq. just fine on several win98 boxes and 2 winnt boxes with
the above configurations.
Matthew Bafford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Fri, 30 Apr 1999 12:27:43 +0000, Bruce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> lucked upon a computer, and thus typed in the following:
> [snip] what looks like (on quick examination) to be the right steps,
> except for the missing:
>
> echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
>
> : Thanks
>
> HTH,
>
> : Bruce Corbett
>
> --Matthew
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From: "Jens Axelsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: building a custom linux inst. disk
Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 12:57:58 +0200
Hi guys!
This summer I'm going to a few netparties, and there I'll probably have to
install some linux systems.
But I don't want to answer all the questions in the RedHat installation
program each and every time I install a new linux system from my ftp server.
So how do I create a custom and somewhat automated installation disk for ftp
installs? I did some research on my own, and found out this:
1) Build a custom kernel (this is easy)
2) Copy it to /dev/fd0
3) - Now what? -
Do I have to install Lilo on the disk too? What else do I need?
Hope you can help me!
Kind regards
Jens Axelsen
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ei)
Subject: Q: What can I do when SVGALIB did not support my video card(chipset)???
Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 07:54:04 GMT
hi~~~
could anyone please tell me what i can do when SVGALIB not support my
Millennium II & G200 ?
Is there any solution to use graphics for console mode on liunx or
unix?
Thanks for your reply
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pascal Gienger)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Windows NT vs. Linux testing by mindcraft
Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 09:25:19 +0200
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Westerdale wrote:
>
>> I don't doubt this at all and I don't disagree. MS FUD is a
>> pernicious thing - implicit in this choice of words is that it cannot
>> be stopped - only met. We have to fight fire with fire, by hiring our
>> own whores.
>>
>
>Why not turn the table around (like MSFT does) and define what makes
>a computer usefull. Raw output/thruput is cool.... But certainly there
>are other reasons why computers rock. Imagine a stage cut in half. On
>one side there are 50 NT boxes simulating a NT centric environment.
>On the other there are 4 Linux Boxes doing the same tasks. Then look at
>all the NT technicians scrambling aroung! Now, compare the performance
>in a
Compare www/ftp.cdrom.com with www.microsoft.com. The first, one (!)
Pentium-Class-computer with a RAID disk system and FreeBSD (sure ;-) ).
The latter with 50 or 60 NT boxes and a local director plus DNS round
robin to handle the load...
>else seems a compromise. MSFT wanted SGI people to use IE off a solaris
>box.
And now SGI smelled the money of "NT" and stops producing good workstations.
All new SGIs come with NT...
Pascal
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