Linux-Misc Digest #29, Volume #20 Sun, 2 May 99 21:13:14 EDT
Contents:
Re: CTRL-S (Jim Cochrane)
Re: The GNU Fragrance of Sharing vs. the Stench of Greed (was: GNU reeks of
Communism (really) (Chris Costello)
Re: What happened to g++ ("Wolfgang Goettert")
Re: 'automount problem' (Tobias Vancura)
Re: The GNU Fragrance of Sharing vs. the Stench of Greed (was: GNU reeks of
Communism (really) ("D. Vrabel")
ppp problem with red hat 5.2 ("everett")
process manager (Thomas Freixanet)
Re: The GNU Fragrance of Sharing vs. the Stench of Greed (was: GNU reeks of
Communism (really) (Floyd Davidson)
Re: The GNU Fragrance of Sharing vs. the Stench of Greed (was: GNU reeks of
Communism (really)^
Re: The GNU Fragrance of Sharing vs. the Stench of Greed (was: GNU reeks of
Communism (really)^
Netscape 4.5 (Steve McClay)
Re: Xemacs cannot locate info directory (Paul Kimoto)
LINUX Kernel/Device Driver Expert, offsite-short term ("ELSID Software Systems LTD.")
Re: Where can I find libncurses.so.3.0 ? ("T.E.Dickey")
Re: 'screen' and dselect/lynx/mutt/slrn (terminfo?) ("T.E.Dickey")
Re: The GNU Fragrance of Sharing vs. the Stench of Greed (was: GNU reeks of
Communism (really)
Re: The GNU Fragrance of Sharing vs. the Stench of Greed (was: GNU reeks of
Communism (really) (mlw)
ftp question (monitoring progress) (Doug Sanderson)
Re: X boot problem - HELP Please!!! (Bill Fan)
Re: The GNU Fragrance of Sharing vs. the Stench of Greed (was: GNU reeks of
Communism (really) (Chris Costello)
Re: ftp question (monitoring progress) (Sean Yamamoto)
Re: ftp question (monitoring progress) (Matthew Bafford)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Cochrane)
Subject: Re: CTRL-S
Date: 2 May 1999 16:44:57 -0600
In article <HcGW2.6405$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
William Wueppelmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In our last episode (30 Apr 1999 15:36:53 +0100),
>the artist formerly known as Jonas said:
>>Stu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>>> I've noticed that within a virtual console CTRL-S disables the keyboard.
>>> I am sure this is not a bug, so what is its purpose. I can only think
>>> that it could be to lock the console for whilst away from the keyboard,
>>> but if so how do you unlock it ?
>>
>>I'm not sure exactly what the purpose of it is, but whilst messing
>>around with it, I found that pressing CTRL-Q sends whatever you typed
>>after CTRL-S to the console. Pressing CTRL-C after CTRL-S seems to
>>cancel the CTRL-S situation and returns you to your normal prompt.
>>
>>Anybody know what this is for? Is it just for some sort of keyboard
>>capture or delayed command entry?
>
>It suspends and resumes flow to the terminal. IIRC, whatever you type gets
>put in a queue, and the terminal reads from the queue. When you suspend
>flow, the terminal stops reading from the queue, but the server can still
>keep filling the queue up. When you resume flow, the terminal continues to
>read.
>
>I assume that it was probably done originally so that you could pause a
>free scrolling display so you could read it a page at a time. Sort of a
>hardware implementation of more(1). Presumably, it's outlived its
>usefulness, since the speed at which data is output or transmitted is far
>to great to read without some kind of software pager. But I seem to
It still comes in handy occasionally. A few days ago at work I was running
a script to test our application and was able to hit ^S to look at a piece
of information I needed from the debug output before it scrolled off the
screen.
>remember reading text over 300 and 1200 baud modem connections and using
>the same sort of pause feature, where you'd let a screenful of data appear
>on your screen (1200 baud is slow enough that it takes a few seconds to
>fill an entire screen), then turn the flow off, read what was there, turn
>the flow back on, and then let it continue with the next screenful. Or, if
>you were just skimming the text, at 1200 baud you could basically let it
>free scroll.
>
>Of course, that was a long time ago, and maybe I'm remembering things
>differently from what they really were.
>
>--
>It is pitch black.
>You are likely to be spammed by a grue.
--
Jim Cochrane
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Costello)
Crossposted-To:
talk.politics.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.activism,alt.society.liberalism
Subject: Re: The GNU Fragrance of Sharing vs. the Stench of Greed (was: GNU reeks of
Communism (really)
Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 23:59:50 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Sun, 02 May 1999 22:41:33 GMT, Chris Costello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >> On Sun, 02 May 1999 20:52:34 GMT, Chris Costello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mark S. Bilk wrote:
> >> >> >For each person, it depends on timescale or personal
> >> >> >interest. Some systems elevate a "class" of individuals to take
> >> >> >advantage of others ("practical communism" and GPL),
> >> >>
> >> >> Amazing! Exactly what "class of individuals" is enabled
> >> >> to "take advantage of others" by means of the GPL? All of
> >> >> humanity minus Bill Gates?
> >> >
> >> > The GPL is a crock. It forces openness. That's not freedom.
> >> >You like walking outside sometimes, I would bet. Would you like
> >> >being *FORCED* to walk outside all the time? That's the key
> >> >problem with the GPL and many recognize it.
> >>
> >> It's equally extreme as what it was meant to replace.
> >
> > Nonetheless, there are better licenses out there than the GPL,
> >such as the BSD-style license shipped with FreeBSD. I also have
> >nothing against the real BSD license.
>
> Whether or not it is 'better' is quite debateable. It
> certainly makes it far easier for a corporation to
> mooch off of shared intellectual capital.
It also makes it easier for a company to add its own
proprietary code for its servers to it without worrying about
having to make it free. I fail to see any problems in that.
>
> --
>
> Microsoft subjected the world to DOS until 1995. |||
> A little spite is more than justified. / | \
>
>
> In search of sane PPP Docs? Try http://penguin.lvcm.com
--
Chris Costello
Error 13: Illegal brain function. Process terminated.
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From: "Wolfgang Goettert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,linux.redhat.rpm,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: What happened to g++
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 16:42:43 +0100
Something is not correctly set up on your system. I am pretty sure that g++
is only supposed to be a symbolic link to gcc. Try it out. I can look it up
this evening on my system.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tobias Vancura)
Subject: Re: 'automount problem'
Reply-To: tvancura at solid.phys.ethz.ch
Date: 1 May 1999 21:11:49 +0100
Hi,
I guess you will have to compile your own kernel and include
autofs (That should be in the file systems section).
Compiling the kernel sounds more difficult than it is. Just
go into the directory /usr/src/linux, type "make config" and
there you can choose the options you want for your new
kernel.
Save the configuration and do a "make dep; make clean; make
zImage" and you will get the new kernel in the arch
directory. When installing it, don't overwrite the old
kernel, probably the most secure is to copy it to a diskette
and boot from there. There should be some HOWTO's around
which I would recommend reading before installing the kernel
and probably messing up everything. Be sure to have a
securitty boot diskette, just in case...
Yours, Tobias
On 26 Apr 1999 09:59:43 +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>i'm using redhat 5.1.
>
>i tried to use autofs/automount & my /etc/auto.misc contains
>
> floppy -fstype=auto :/dev/fd0
>
>
>however, i was told that the kernel does not support file system autofs.
>
>So, which rpm should i upgraded in order to have the autofs support.
>
>i did upgrade the kernerl form 2.0.34 to 2.0.36. the result is the same.
>
>is it related to the filesystem package ?
>
>
>Thx in advance.
>
>
>
--
*********************************************************************
Tobias Vancura Email: tvancura at solid.phys.ethz.ch
Solid State Physics Laboratory
ETH H�nggerberg
CH - 8093 Z�rich/Switzerland
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From: "D. Vrabel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
talk.politics.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.activism,alt.society.liberalism
Subject: Re: The GNU Fragrance of Sharing vs. the Stench of Greed (was: GNU reeks of
Communism (really)
Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 23:06:25 +0100
On Sun, 2 May 1999, Chris Costello wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mark S. Bilk wrote:
> > >For each person, it depends on timescale or personal
> > >interest. Some systems elevate a "class" of individuals to take
> > >advantage of others ("practical communism" and GPL),
> >
> > Amazing! Exactly what "class of individuals" is enabled
> > to "take advantage of others" by means of the GPL? All of
> > humanity minus Bill Gates?
>
> The GPL is a crock. It forces openness. That's not freedom.
> You like walking outside sometimes, I would bet. Would you like
> being *FORCED* to walk outside all the time? That's the key
> problem with the GPL and many recognize it.
Alas, your argument is wrong because your not forced to use the GPL or
to use GPL software.
David
--
David Vrabel
Engineering Undergraduate at University of Cambridge, UK.
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From: "everett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ppp problem with red hat 5.2
Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 03:07:20 +0800
HI
I have a problem with my RH 5.2, I am using US robotics modem. And still I
cannot connect to my ISP. They said I need to modified the chap and pap
secrets, well I did modified them.
Then I used the scripts that is shown in PPPhowto, but still I could not
connect. The message in /var/log/message was "Serial line looped back" then
I chaged the pppd option with nomagic. But still I could not connect it, the
message was "could not determine Remote IP". FYI the modem could not dial
the number.
Then I tried to use the network configuration in control panel in xwindow.
The modem could dial the number but I got disconnected for a while, the
message was "LCP: timeout sending config - request" what does it mean? I
once tried using kppp and I made the timeout quite longer than default
setting. But still I could not get through to my ISP. Why is that? is it
possible that my ISP is not compatible if I am using linux? Could anyone
help me to solve this problem?
Thank you... =)
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From: Thomas Freixanet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: process manager
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 15:59:39 +0200
Hi ,
I've recently upgraded the Linux kernel from 2.0.36 to 2.2.5-ac3 (I use
the Powerpack 5.3 distribution). All works fine (thanks to rpm) except
the process manager which doesn't start when I load it from the KDE
desktop (more precisely nothing happend when I click on it).
Must I upgrade it to a newer release ?
Thanks for your help.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Floyd Davidson)
Crossposted-To:
talk.politics.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.activism,alt.society.liberalism
Subject: Re: The GNU Fragrance of Sharing vs. the Stench of Greed (was: GNU reeks of
Communism (really)
Date: 2 May 1999 23:25:41 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Chris Costello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>Chris Costello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>Mark S. Bilk wrote:
>>>>>For each person, it depends on timescale or personal
>>>>>interest. Some systems elevate a "class" of individuals to take
>>>>>advantage of others ("practical communism" and GPL),
>>>>
>>>>Amazing! Exactly what "class of individuals" is enabled
>>>>to "take advantage of others" by means of the GPL? All of
>>>>humanity minus Bill Gates?
>>>
>>> The GPL is a crock. It forces openness. That's not freedom.
>>>You like walking outside sometimes, I would bet. Would you like
>>>being *FORCED* to walk outside all the time? That's the key
>>>problem with the GPL and many recognize it.
>>
>>It's equally extreme as what it was meant to replace.
>
>Nonetheless, there are better licenses out there than the GPL,
>such as the BSD-style license shipped with FreeBSD. I also have
>nothing against the real BSD license.
I fail to see where BSD is better than GPL. Allowing open software
to assist in the development of proprietary closed projects just is
not an advantage.
It is also absolutely false that GPL forces openness on anyone.
Nobody is *required* to use GPL's code. GPL _permits_ openness,
and we have all seen the effect that it has had over the past 15
years or so as the GNU project has developed into an exceedingly
significant force. Not to mention what Linux has become in the
past 6-7 years...
When a fellow like Torvalds (as opposed to Stallman) stands up
at Comdex and threatens to bury MicroSoft, it's pretty hard to
say that open software is a crock, or that the GPL hasn't been a
major enabling factor.
Floyd
--
Floyd L. Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
North Slope images: <http://www.ptialaska.net/~floyd>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To:
talk.politics.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.activism,alt.society.liberalism
Subject: Re: The GNU Fragrance of Sharing vs. the Stench of Greed (was: GNU reeks of
Communism (really)^
Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 17:29:33 -0700
On Sun, 02 May 1999 23:58:59 GMT, Chris Costello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Considering what the legal justifications are for allowing the
>> goverment (US at least) to exercise power in this regard, yes.
>
> Care to expand?
>
> Are you calling BSDI, Solaris, SunOS, SCO, etc. potentially
>illegal?
The 'abuse of power' which is the patent and copyright
system is justified by progress in the arts and sciences,
not making Bill obscenely rich. IP is not property.
--
Microsoft subjected the world to DOS until 1995. |||
A little spite is more than justified. / | \
In search of sane PPP Docs? Try http://penguin.lvcm.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To:
talk.politics.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.activism,alt.society.liberalism
Subject: Re: The GNU Fragrance of Sharing vs. the Stench of Greed (was: GNU reeks of
Communism (really)^
Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 17:27:55 -0700
On Sun, 02 May 1999 16:27:45 -0700, Bill Bonde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 02 May 1999 15:02:32 -0700, Bill Bonde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >Loren Petrich wrote:
>> >>
>> >> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> >> Chris Costello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mark S. Bilk wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >> Amazing! Exactly what "class of individuals" is enabled
>> >> >> to "take advantage of others" by means of the GPL? All of
>> >> >> humanity minus Bill Gates?
>> >>
>> >> > The GPL is a crock. It forces openness. That's not freedom.
>> >>
>> >> The way that anti-slavery laws make one not free to own slaves?
>> >>
>> >Is it wrong to keep software proprietary?
>>
>> Considering what the legal justifications are for allowing the
>> goverment (US at least) to exercise power in this regard, yes.
>>
>I'm not following. You are saying that Microsoft should be forced to
>release its proprietary code for all to see?
Yup. It's the toll for the federally granted monopoly.
(or rather should)
--
Microsoft subjected the world to DOS until 1995. |||
A little spite is more than justified. / | \
In search of sane PPP Docs? Try http://penguin.lvcm.com
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From: Steve McClay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Netscape 4.5
Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 23:59:36 GMT
Hello ppl, I just downloaded Netscape 4.5 for Linux 2 and installed it
successfully in R.h 5.2. Now the problem is that I don't know how to
uninstall Netscape 4.07(standard with R.H 5.2). I installed this version(4.5)
with the unix-script rather than the rpm file provided with the package. Any
help would be appreciated. Thanks, Steve.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: Xemacs cannot locate info directory
Date: 23 Apr 1999 15:18:10 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[posted and e-mailed]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Faheem Mitha wrote:
> I ran make install, having
> changed the default usr/local to be the same subdirectory xemacs-20.4/,
> that contained all the other xemacs stuff. I also ran make dist for good
> measure, though I am not sure if that was necessary. Everything seemed to
> compile OK, and Xemacs runs, but it complains that it cannot find the info
> directory, though it is there.
>
> This is a problem I have had with GNU Emacs as well, which came as part of
> my system (Linux Redhat 5.1) as an RPM. GNU Emacs also complains that it
> "cannot find info node".
You want to look at the value of "Info-default-directory-list"
(use "C-h v"). You could mess with its value in your .emacs
file.
If you just want to visit a particular info file, you can use
"C-u C-h i INFO_FILE_PATH".
--
Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: "ELSID Software Systems LTD." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: LINUX Kernel/Device Driver Expert, offsite-short term
Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 19:42:54 -0400
Sorry to post here but I just can't find any one to do this. What we
need
is a web page dedicated to Linux jobs :-).
===========================================
Short term contract for a Linux expert in device driver design and
implementation.
This is off site work but face to face meetings may be during the
project.
Submit resumes listing Linux experience to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please
include your per deim rate.
ELSID Software Systems LTD
Nepean, Ontario, Canada
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "T.E.Dickey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Where can I find libncurses.so.3.0 ?
Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 00:15:58 GMT
ms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> Where can I find the library libncurses.so.3.0 necessary to install
> isdn4k-utils-2.0-2.i386.rpm ?
> (I have a redHat 5.2 system)
> Thanks in advance.
that was probably ncurses 1.9.9e (look in redhat 5.1 or before)
--
Thomas E. Dickey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.clark.net/pub/dickey
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From: "T.E.Dickey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 'screen' and dselect/lynx/mutt/slrn (terminfo?)
Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 00:21:20 GMT
Peter Granroth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "T.E.Dickey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
...
>> I'd check on dselect, but haven't been able to find a tar file that
>> contains it (no, I'm _not_ downloading all of Debian to look for it ;-)
> dselect is in the dpkg package. sources are available at any debian
> mirror, e.g:
> ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/unstable/main/source/base/dpkg_1.4.1.1.tar.gz
thanks (no one responded before). now I can indulge my curiosity.
--
Thomas E. Dickey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.clark.net/pub/dickey
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To:
talk.politics.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.activism,alt.society.liberalism
Subject: Re: The GNU Fragrance of Sharing vs. the Stench of Greed (was: GNU reeks of
Communism (really)
Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 17:31:12 -0700
On Sun, 02 May 1999 23:59:50 GMT, Chris Costello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> On Sun, 02 May 1999 22:41:33 GMT, Chris Costello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> >> On Sun, 02 May 1999 20:52:34 GMT, Chris Costello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mark S. Bilk wrote:
>> >> >> >For each person, it depends on timescale or personal
>> >> >> >interest. Some systems elevate a "class" of individuals to take
>> >> >> >advantage of others ("practical communism" and GPL),
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Amazing! Exactly what "class of individuals" is enabled
>> >> >> to "take advantage of others" by means of the GPL? All of
>> >> >> humanity minus Bill Gates?
>> >> >
>> >> > The GPL is a crock. It forces openness. That's not freedom.
>> >> >You like walking outside sometimes, I would bet. Would you like
>> >> >being *FORCED* to walk outside all the time? That's the key
>> >> >problem with the GPL and many recognize it.
>> >>
>> >> It's equally extreme as what it was meant to replace.
>> >
>> > Nonetheless, there are better licenses out there than the GPL,
>> >such as the BSD-style license shipped with FreeBSD. I also have
>> >nothing against the real BSD license.
>>
>> Whether or not it is 'better' is quite debateable. It
>> certainly makes it far easier for a corporation to
>> mooch off of shared intellectual capital.
>
> It also makes it easier for a company to add its own
>proprietary code for its servers to it without worrying about
>having to make it free. I fail to see any problems in that.
As does LGPL. It just doesn't make it quite as easy
to make minor modifications and then crassly declare
the result to be your property. This kind of
shenanigan is what inspired creation of the GPL to
begin with.
--
Microsoft subjected the world to DOS until 1995. |||
A little spite is more than justified. / | \
In search of sane PPP Docs? Try http://penguin.lvcm.com
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From: mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
talk.politics.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.activism,alt.society.liberalism
Subject: Re: The GNU Fragrance of Sharing vs. the Stench of Greed (was: GNU reeks of
Communism (really)
Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 00:47:47 +0000
Chris Costello wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mark S. Bilk wrote:
> > >For each person, it depends on timescale or personal
> > >interest. Some systems elevate a "class" of individuals to take
> > >advantage of others ("practical communism" and GPL),
> >
> > Amazing! Exactly what "class of individuals" is enabled
> > to "take advantage of others" by means of the GPL? All of
> > humanity minus Bill Gates?
>
> The GPL is a crock. It forces openness. That's not freedom.
> You like walking outside sometimes, I would bet. Would you like
> being *FORCED* to walk outside all the time? That's the key
> problem with the GPL and many recognize it.
>
One is always FREE not to use GPL, aren't they? I think GPL is quite
liberating. You are free to use GPL and free not too. Freedom of choice.
--
Mohawk Software
Windows 95, Windows NT, UNIX, Linux. Applications, drivers, support.
Take the Mohawk Software Computer Survey at: www.mohawksoft.com
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From: Doug Sanderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ftp question (monitoring progress)
Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 16:28:37 -0700
Is there some way to monitor the progress of an ftp "put" command,
similar to
the microsoft dialog window that tells you how many bytes remain and how
much more time until the transfer is complete?
--
Doug Sanderson
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
homepage: http://www.halcyon.com/dcs
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From: Bill Fan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: X boot problem - HELP Please!!!
Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 16:18:53 -0700
Arik,
Take a look at /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/xdm-config file, which defines
all the resource files and lock file, the default is /var/run/xdm.pid.
delete it and try again. BTW, if you are already in X, the /sbin/telinit 5
won't take any action. quit X and try again. it should work. Good luck
Regards,
Bill Fan
Motorola,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Arik Solomon wrote:
> Hello! (this is a second post)
> My problem is as follows:
> I want to boot my REDHAT 5.2 linux into X, so I changed /etc/inittab
> to start the default runlevel with runlevel 5, but when I reboot,
> I get the normal command prompt login.
> When I first installed this box, last year, I was able to login into X,
> but for some reason I've changed it back to normal ,and I can't go back
> to GUI boot.
> When I type "init 5 " at the command prompt nothing happens, and when I
> type "/usr/X11/bin/xdm -nodaemon" (as written in /etc/inittab")
> I get an error message saying that it can not open display, because
> another xdm is
> running, but nothing really is running.
>
> Any help will be appreciated.
>
> Arik Solomon
> Israel
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Costello)
Crossposted-To:
talk.politics.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.activism,alt.society.liberalism
Subject: Re: The GNU Fragrance of Sharing vs. the Stench of Greed (was: GNU reeks of
Communism (really)
Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 00:51:59 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Sun, 02 May 1999 23:59:50 GMT, Chris Costello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >> On Sun, 02 May 1999 22:41:33 GMT, Chris Costello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >> >> On Sun, 02 May 1999 20:52:34 GMT, Chris Costello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
> >> >> >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mark S. Bilk wrote:
> >> >> >> >For each person, it depends on timescale or personal
> >> >> >> >interest. Some systems elevate a "class" of individuals to take
> >> >> >> >advantage of others ("practical communism" and GPL),
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Amazing! Exactly what "class of individuals" is enabled
> >> >> >> to "take advantage of others" by means of the GPL? All of
> >> >> >> humanity minus Bill Gates?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The GPL is a crock. It forces openness. That's not freedom.
> >> >> >You like walking outside sometimes, I would bet. Would you like
> >> >> >being *FORCED* to walk outside all the time? That's the key
> >> >> >problem with the GPL and many recognize it.
> >> >>
> >> >> It's equally extreme as what it was meant to replace.
> >> >
> >> > Nonetheless, there are better licenses out there than the GPL,
> >> >such as the BSD-style license shipped with FreeBSD. I also have
> >> >nothing against the real BSD license.
> >>
> >> Whether or not it is 'better' is quite debateable. It
> >> certainly makes it far easier for a corporation to
> >> mooch off of shared intellectual capital.
> >
> > It also makes it easier for a company to add its own
> >proprietary code for its servers to it without worrying about
> >having to make it free. I fail to see any problems in that.
>
> As does LGPL. It just doesn't make it quite as easy
> to make minor modifications and then crassly declare
> the result to be your property. This kind of
> shenanigan is what inspired creation of the GPL to
> begin with.
As seen in the BSD license:
* Copyright (c) [year] [your name]
* All rights reserved.
*
* Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without
* modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions
* are met:
* 1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright
* notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer.
* 2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright
* notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the
* documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution.
This prevents the same thing.
>
> --
>
> Microsoft subjected the world to DOS until 1995. |||
> A little spite is more than justified. / | \
>
>
> In search of sane PPP Docs? Try http://penguin.lvcm.com
--
Chris Costello
Beware of programmers who carry screwdrivers. - Leonard Brandwein
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From: Sean Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ftp question (monitoring progress)
Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 00:30:16 +0000
Doug Sanderson wrote:
>
> Is there some way to monitor the progress of an ftp "put"
> command, similar to the microsoft dialog window that tells
> you how many bytes remain and how much more time until the
> transfer is complete?
I use ncftp which does this automatically; it's a text-based
ftp client that you can find on your favorite ftp mirror site.
Many GUI-based ftp clients (e.g., gftp if you install GNOME)
have progress statistics.
S.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthew Bafford)
Subject: Re: ftp question (monitoring progress)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 00:37:00 GMT
On Sun, 02 May 1999 16:28:37 -0700, Doug Sanderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
lucked upon a computer, and thus typed in the following:
: Is there some way to monitor the progress of an ftp "put" command,
: similar to
: the microsoft dialog window that tells you how many bytes remain and how
:
: much more time until the transfer is complete?
Other than 'hash' (and that just tells you it's working), not really.
Try ncftp instead.
--Matthew
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