Linux-Misc Digest #29, Volume #21 Wed, 14 Jul 99 02:13:14 EDT
Contents:
Re: Microsoft =?iso-8859-1?Q?FrontPage=AE?= 2000 Server Extensions for Linux...
(Alan Strassberg)
STB BlackMagic Voodoo2 (Timothy M Bryant)
Re: Linux+NT4+win98 ("Pirana Selvanandan")
"system too big".. for WHAT!
Re: Disappearing mail messages (Chris Pott)
Epson Color 600 and Debian 2.1 (Josh Morris)
Re: CIA assassinations (Generalissimo)
Oracle for Linux: downloaded file size ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Dev's won't work??? (Marc Mutz)
Re: CIA assassinations (Richard Kulisz)
Re: computer literacy (was 'Linux viruses' or something) (Paul Anderson)
Re: Passthrough zip drive through printer? ("Pirana Selvanandan")
Re: Linux+NT4+win98 (Jeff Goodman)
Re: Epson Color 600 and Debian 2.1 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Installing SuSE from HD (Jeff Goodman)
Re: dfe-530tx ethernet card these work in linux?????? (bono)
Re: Linux -> NT (Jeff Goodman)
Everything Will Be Redhat. ("Jake_Paws")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alan Strassberg)
Crossposted-To:
microsoft.public.frontpage.extensions.unix,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
Subject: Re: Microsoft =?iso-8859-1?Q?FrontPage=AE?= 2000 Server Extensions for
Linux...
Date: 13 Jul 1999 21:05:27 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jonathon Spaeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>The only real changes the patch makes to apache is that it adds an
>extra variable in the request_rec (I think) structure. This is to
>hold the execfilename target. Frontpage runs its own cgi that acts as
>sort of a suexec and stores the file that that cgi needs to run in the
[..]
There's a Frontpage clone in the works...
http://www.nimh.org/fpse.shtml
alan
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Timothy M Bryant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: STB BlackMagic Voodoo2
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 22:37:58 -0500
Greetings all. I have recently installed Mandrake 6.0 on my system and I can
not, for the life of me, get this card configured on my computer. I have
visited the STB homepage and gotten the neccessary files to install the
drivers. For starters, my computer does not recognize the command "Uvh". I
do not as well. Anybody got any suggestions?
--Tim
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From: "Pirana Selvanandan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux+NT4+win98
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 00:39:15 -0400
I created a 2.0 gig fat 16 partition and an extended 11 gig partition
(unpartitioned and unformatted). I then proceeded to install 98 and NT on
that Fat 16 partition. Then I installed Linux on a 1 gig partition with a
127 mb swap partition using red hat's disk druid which made that partition
in the extended. I also wrote the boot record to the HDA and not the MBR
and created the boot recovery disk. I then booted Linux with the Boot Disk
and typed the following:
1. dd if=/dev/hdaX of=/bootsect.lnx bs=512 count=1
(where X is the partition on the disk and you know the rest)
2. stuck in a fat 16 floppy and typed
mcopy /bootsect.lnx a:
Then i reboot and loaded up NT or 98, and
3. copied the bootsect.lnx file to C:\
4. attrib -s -r c:\boot.ini
or whatever you want to get rid of hide and read only off the file
and added
5. C:\bootsect.lnx="Linux"
to the end of the [Operating Systems] section
then save the file and boot again....
After this, I installed SP3 or higher for NT and partitioned the remaining
extended space via the DIsk Manager in the ADmin Tools and made two drives
(NTFS and Fat32).
Good Luck,
Have FUn (You'll need it)
--Pirana.S
liang wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I just got a new hardrive(13.6GB) and I want to install all
>three OSes available to me. Any suggestions about the
>partition, installation order etc?
>such as: which way is better, use PartitionMagic or fdisk
>or fips of Linux to partition the drive?
>
>thanks.
>
>
>
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install
Subject: "system too big".. for WHAT!
Date: 14 Jul 1999 04:31:02 GMT
First question: Is there a newsgroup devoted to kernel compilation
problems? I dont see anything in the list.
I just 'up'graded to redhat 6 & tried to recompile my kernel.
Upon 'make boot' I wind up with
System is 590 kB
System is too big. Try using bzImage or modules.
make[1]: *** [zImage] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.2.5/arch/i386/boot'
make: *** [boot] Error 2
Too big for what?? I've got 64MB of RAM & gobs of hdd space.
Most options are in modules & I've weeded out what I dont need.
I've recompiled my kernel before with no trouble. This looks
like an arbitrary limit. If it's too big for a floppy, I dont
care. I use LILO. make bzImage will work but the redhat manual
recommends make boot. I dont know the difference.
What's the workaround for this?
I tried the echo commands listed in the kernel howto. They
didn't work if they were supposed to fix this.
Frustrated,
Art.
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From: Chris Pott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Disappearing mail messages
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 20:54:10 -0700
In article
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Chris Pott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Arrgh!
>
> I'm finding that from time to time there is mail delivered to my
> linux server, but that never makes it into my spoolfile.
>
> I see entries for messages supposedly successfully delivered to me in
> /var/log/maillog, but they don't exist in my spoolfile (or pine, or
> Eudora downloading mail from the machine).
Ok, it seems that when my spoolfile has a lock from a POP session,
simultaneously with an incoming message, the incoming message gets
lost.
Is there some way I can tell the process trying to write to my spool
file to recognize when it fails, and re-try?
--
Chris Pott
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Josh Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Epson Color 600 and Debian 2.1
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 00:49:10 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Has anyone got this printer to work with Debian. I'm running Debian 2.1
with a 2.2.10 compiled kernel. I installed Ghostscript 5.10 per a site
recommended by the Ghostscript download page for Debian et al. distros.
However, I have absolutely no idea how to set up this printer under Debian.
I can do it under Red Hat quite easily, but unfortunately I haven't been
able to get the printer to work using Debian. Does someone know of a site
that goes through this step by step, or maybe if they can post or e-mail me
their printcap and corresponding filter file. It was easy with Red Hat
(kudos to them for that tool), and I'd like to explore Debian's strengths
and weaknesses. I've looked at magicfilter (which I couldn't find a entry
for this printer and the only one I could get working was monochrome and
flaky at that) and I've even tried copying over the files generated by Red
Hat (which obviously didn't work - wouldn't it be nice if all Linux
distributions played nicely together?). Any help is appreciated. Thanks!
Josh Morris
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Generalissimo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: CIA assassinations
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 00:54:17 -0700
Michel Catudal wrote:
> Capitalism is man exploiting man
> Communism and socialism are the opposite
Is it from the latest Stallman, or something <g>?
--
len
if you must email, reply to:
len bel at world net dot att dot net (no spaces, ats2@, dots2.)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Oracle for Linux: downloaded file size
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 17:06:42 GMT
Can anyone tell me whether the Oracle For Linux files I downloaded
individually have correct size? The Oracle download site only says 20
MB except the last one 805ship7.tar (19 MB). I suspect my files
especially ship2 and 6 were not downloaded completely:
07/02/99 04:43p 19,214,240 805ship7.tar
07/02/99 12:12p 17,882,244 805ship2.tar
07/02/99 01:45p 20,971,520 805ship3.tar
07/02/99 02:26p 20,971,520 805ship4.tar
07/02/99 03:37p 20,971,520 805ship5.tar
07/02/99 04:26p 16,424,068 805ship6.tar
07/02/99 11:51a 19,632,412 805ship1.tar
7 File(s) 136,067,524 bytes
BTW, anybody knows a tool to cut a big binary file into pieces? I can
have my friend download the one large file (145 MB) for me then I copy
it to my PC using 100MB Zip drive. Thanks.
Yong Huang
Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 19:13:49 +0200
From: Marc Mutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Dev's won't work???
key wrote:
>
<snip>
> You can try the command below, but you may need to have vesa mode enabled
> from within lilo.conf: (see fbdev mini-howto for more detail)
> mknod /dev/fb0 c 29 0
??? Why do you need fb to mknod a character device? - ah, I see: You
mistaked fb for _fd_...
Marc
--
Marc Mutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://marc.mutz.com/
University of Bielefeld, Dep. of Mathematics / Dep. of Physics
PGP-keyID's: 0xd46ce9ab (RSA), 0x7ae55b9e (DSS/DH)
key wrote:
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Kulisz)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: CIA assassinations
Date: 14 Jul 1999 05:02:59 GMT
In article <7mfl4p$4bo$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Joseph T. Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In comp.os.linux.advocacy Richard Kulisz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>: Don't be so sure. After all, we handle psychopathic murderers, don't we?
>
>You're still around, so I guess not.
I haven't murdered anyone yet, but then I've never met a Libertarian
face to face either. So that's *potential* psychopathic murderer to
you, buddy!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Anderson)
Subject: Re: computer literacy (was 'Linux viruses' or something)
Date: 13 Jul 1999 18:04:35 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (vybp eeru) writes:
>To be honest, I would love the have both, but if I would have to choose
>one, I think most people would choose the easy and intuitive way that is
>found on *every* microwave today. (with an emphisis)
>
Microwave's are a bad example, as computers are FAR more complex than a
microwave. Everyone is functioning under the moronic belief that computers
can be appliances. They can't. They are just too complex to be shoved in a
corner and treated like a microwave or dishwasher. It's a stupid, moronic
idea that has been perpetuated by microsoft. The problem lies in the fact
that there are hundreds and hundreds of so-called "experts" chattering a mile
a minute about using computers to increase productivity, internet 2, VRML, and
all this junk when in reality they have NO IDEA what they're talking about.
How productive are you when all your accounting records for the past 10 years
spontaneously disappear? How productive are you when, right in the middle of
taking an order, the stupid machine goes into an epileptic seizure? Paper
ledgers are still a smart idea for accounting, IMHO. People just have to grow
up and realize that groupware is total BS, that computers rarely improve
productivity, and that computers are too complex to be treated like
microwaves.
ANY effort to make them behave like a microwave is doomed to failure, and to
this date no one has ever been successful. TTYL!
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From: "Pirana Selvanandan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Passthrough zip drive through printer?
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 00:40:50 -0400
Plug in the Printer to the Zip Drive and the Zip to the parallel port and
print. MAKE sure that the Zip Drive is powered, otherwise no operating
system on earth can help you!
--Pirana.S
Kevin Breit wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I am trying to print on my HP printer that runs off of Parallel Port. The
>cable goes: computer -> zip drive -> printer. How do I set that up so it
will
>print?
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From: Jeff Goodman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux+NT4+win98
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 22:16:38 -0700
liang wrote:
>
> I just got a new hardrive(13.6GB) and I want to install all
> three OSes available to me. Any suggestions about the
> partition, installation order etc?
> such as: which way is better, use PartitionMagic or fdisk
> or fips of Linux to partition the drive?
>
> thanks.
If you've got $100 to spare (or just want to try it free for 30 days),
try VMWare. This thing is phenominal - it allows you to run NT (and I
presume Win98, though I have not tried) in a virtual machine under
Linux. So - NT runs in its own window along with any other X apps. If
you've got 128MB or so (it'll work with 64MB - just a bit slower) of RAM
and a fast processor, give it a try.
I'm not associated with VMWare (www.vmware.com) at all, BTW, but, as you
may be able to tell, I enthusiastic about their product!
Jeff
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Epson Color 600 and Debian 2.1
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 05:32:45 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Josh Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Has anyone got this printer to work with Debian. I'm running Debian 2.1
>with a 2.2.10 compiled kernel. I installed Ghostscript 5.10 per a site
>recommended by the Ghostscript download page for Debian et al. distros.
>However, I have absolutely no idea how to set up this printer under Debian.
>I can do it under Red Hat quite easily, but unfortunately I haven't been
>able to get the printer to work using Debian. Does someone know of a site
>that goes through this step by step, or maybe if they can post or e-mail me
>their printcap and corresponding filter file. It was easy with Red Hat
>(kudos to them for that tool), and I'd like to explore Debian's strengths
>and weaknesses. I've looked at magicfilter (which I couldn't find a entry
>for this printer and the only one I could get working was monochrome and
>flaky at that) and I've even tried copying over the files generated by Red
>Hat (which obviously didn't work - wouldn't it be nice if all Linux
>distributions played nicely together?). Any help is appreciated. Thanks!
>
>Josh Morris
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Did you get a binary of ghostscript or source and then compile it?
ghostscript can be compiled to support all or only a subset of available
printers. To find out which printers a particular binary supports, use
the command "gs -h" and it will give you a list of available devices.
You would need either stcolor or uniprint (or both). I use the uniprint
driver myself, though I used to use stcolor. My printcap has lines
like:
lp|lpl:lp=/dev/lp0:sd=/var/spool/lpd:sh:if=/var/spool/lpd/lp/lp0360:
lpm:lp=/dev/lp0:sd=/var/spool/lpd:sh:if=/var/spool/lpd/lp/lp0720:
lph:lp=/dev/lp0:sd=/var/spool/lpd:sh:if=/var/spool/lpd/lp/lp01440:
lpraw:lp=/dev/lp0:sd=/var/spool/lpd:sh:
where lp actually examines a file to see if it is postscript, and uses
low (360) resolution if it is, lpm is medium resolution, and lph is
high. lpraw is raw output. When I use GIMP to print a file, I tell
it to use lpraw because GIMP knows how to talk to an Epson 600.
My filters, located in /var/spool/lpd/lp, look like:
#!/bin/sh
# ps_or_text_filter.sh
# This is a "magic filter" based on one in the Linux Printing-HOWTO.
# Checks the incoming file for Postscript or text and handles accordingly
read first_line
first_two_chars=`expr "$first_line" : '\(..\)'`
if [ "$first_two_chars" = "%!" ] ; then # Looks like PostScript
#/usr/local/bin/gs -q -sDEVICE=stcolor -r360x360 -sDithering=fscmyk -sOutputFile=-
stcolor.ps -
/usr/bin/gs -q @stc600pl.upp -sOutputFile=- - -c quit
#touch /tmp/usingGS
#touch /tmp/lpLOW
else # It's plain text
#touch /tmp/NOTusingGS
echo $first_line # the stuff we grabbed before
cat # ... and the rest
echo -ne \\f # ... and a formfeed
fi
#gs @stc600pl.upp -sOutputFile=/tmp/mystcouput golfer.ps -c quit
Hope that helps.
--
Clear yourself to logodedaly and you cleave yourself from clarity
also: remove "UhUh" and "Spam" to get my real email address -----
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From: Jeff Goodman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Installing SuSE from HD
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 22:03:06 -0700
Daniel Forester wrote:
>
> Stewart Honsberger was talking... AGAIN...
> : Did you try /hdb1/6.0 ?
>
> Okay, so I'm a moron. It was on hdc... ;-) Anyways... I'm now having
> probs. getting the network up and running... I've messed around with
> HOSTNAME, resolv.conf, and a few others... anything that I might be
> missing? I can't even seem to get anything via IP address, so I
> dunno what it is. thanks y'all....
>
> --
> Daniel E. Forester
> Georgia Institute of Technology
> http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gte061f/
>
> Give a man a fire and he'll be warm for a night... Set him
> on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
Have you tried YAST? If not, su to root and give it shot. Select
"System Adminiistration" then "Network Configuration," then go through
the options.
If this doesn't bear fruit, try posting again with more details
regarding symptoms. Good luck.
Jeff
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From: bono <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: dfe-530tx ethernet card these work in linux??????
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 05:24:58 GMT
I got this card to work and thanks to someone helping me! (you rock! and
thanks again!)
So I will share with the experience
basically the steps are easy but first time doing it so puzzling...
1. do a modprobe via-rhine
2. run 'dmesg' to see if you see the messages starting with "via-rhine..."
follows by 2 lines starting "eth0:...."
up to this point at least you know your hardwares like the card
3. type "ifconfig eth0 <your IP> up
4. "route add default eth0"
if you want to shut it down type in
"ifconfig eth0 down"
5 type in ifconfig you should be able to see the eth0 card info
6 type in "route" and it will list out all the route setting
up to this point is I get helped on, but still my connection was not found...
up to this point you should have no problem ping your IP and gateway
then I went to network configuration and entered my own nameservers IP (2 of
them I got but I think one is fine) I also modify my domain and hostname to
be correct. Then at this moment you should have no problem pinging the
nameserver IP. I don't know if you really need to do this step but my
connection was not up until I did the steps above.
Hope this helps... btw you need to run step 3 and 4 everytime, I think I can
add into the rc.local file... I haven't tried it but along with the insmod -f
sblive that I need to force my sblive to work.
your httpd will say it fails when booting but I tried it and it seems to
work....
Bono
"Robert A. Ober" wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > hi there
> >
> > i am using SuSE 6.1 would this have the VIA Rhine driver? i am
> > reading the manuals soo ill eventually get it working, its just a bit
> > confusing at first
> >
>
> Compile it into the kernel. Haven't gotten mine working in RH6 yet.
> However, same card/machine combo doesnt run in win98 either so I may
> have bad something. Machine's mboard is several years old.
>
> Y,all have fun,
> --
> Robert A. Ober
> Please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Jeff Goodman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Linux -> NT
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 22:09:17 -0700
Leonard Evens wrote:
>
> Anders Buch wrote:
>
> > In article <7md1ni$a6f$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > Nova <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >Well, I removed all the partitions from my hardrive in order to install NT,
> > >Inserted the boot diskette for Nt and continued onward.... The install
> > >proceed smoothtly, until.....The restart, Upon the resteart the Letters LI
> > >appeared, a ghostlike reminder of the Linux (or rather LILO) that once
> > >lived on this machine, after the LI appears it freezes.....
> > >I reformatted the drive for Fat, and tried NTFS, I created one single
> > >partition for NT, yet the computer continues to give me the LI, and then a
> > >freeze...
> > >Can you help to alleviate this problem, All help is greatly appreciated,,,
> > >Thnx,
> >
> > Your "problem" is that LILO is still sitting on the master boot record (MBR)
> > of your hard disk. For some reason windoze products have the belief that
> > only their boot programs can reside there...
> >
> > If you have an old dos boot floppy, it might work to boot in dos from that
> > disk and then give the command
> >
> > fdisk /mbr
> >
> > This should overwrite the MBR program with Micro$oft's (old?) version, and
> > possibly you can continue from there.
> >
> > If it works, enjoy your New Troubles!
> >
> > --
> > Anders Skovsted Buch E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 2072 East Hall Phone: (734) 477-9052
> > 525 East University Ave
> > Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1109
>
> If I remember correctly, NT has a copy of fdisk somewhere. You can
> create an NT boot floppy and put fdisk on it and then run
> fdisk /mbr
> But I think any dos fdisk will do since the form of the master boot record
> is quite standard.
> Also, if I remember my experience with NT, I think you can choose
> during installation to reformat the disk, and then it takes care of
> the MBR.
>
> --
>
> Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
> Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
It may be too late but... After you do the fdisk /mbr, you should not
have to reeinstall NT from scratch. If you boot from the NT CDROM and
choose the "R" (Recover?) option (and snorkle through a few additional
screens), NT should rebuild the Master Boot Record.
Jeff
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From: "Jake_Paws" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Everything Will Be Redhat.
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 00:11:09 -0600
That is what I say. Everything will be Redhat linux. Now I know some of you
must think I'm crazy for saying this. It only comes down to one little
thing. Redhat markets. Does it well. I reverts back to this. You say linux.
They say Redhat. You say Redhat they say linux. This being the typical
customer. Other things ofcourse can fuel this. For example a red hat package
module. Sure you can download patches or fixes or programs or whatever you
want to call them. To install a rpm module. Then go out of your way to make
it work. The common customer and even system administrator. (AKA not much of
a administrator.) Wants something fast and simple. We all know we look for
the following.
1. Cost
2. Understanding install, setup and use.
3. support. (AKA #2 Install, setup and use.
4. Applications available.
5. What is out there. (AKA Advertising.)
I know that isn't all some look for more some look for less. But lets see.
1st. Cost: Well you can pretty much get all for free. So we won't bother
looking at this. I know for instance you can get redhat at officemax for
49.00 then they would have a special and plus a rebate. So you ended up just
paying the state tax.
2nd. Lets just say. If you can't install it. You can't use it. Thus in
english it sucks. I found Slackware for me best for setup out of Redhat and
Caldera. Please keep in mind. It won't be the same for you.
3rd. Depends how you look at tech support. I can't really touch this beacuse
only now is companies offer tech support for linux. For intance Redhat
offers 90 days e-mail I beleive and dell will even offer more support on
that is your purchase one of there machines.
4th. Applications depends how you look at it. This is were linux has one of
its ups and downs. For instance. If you want to say run a e-mail server. No
problem. However, If you want to scan or punch mp3's (Yes I know there is
software available. This is just a example.) You might have trouble finding
a company to support a product. Perhaps I should say. We want Microsoft
Office because everybody else uses it. Sure we can have Star Office. But
Microsoft doesn't make office for linux. (Yet that is.)
5th. Redhat defenetly clears #5. Along with Caldera, Slackeware. I also
have seen Suse at a local Sams Club. I know you are saying. Well this is
stupid. But there is alot of truth in it. To a standard computer user. If
somebody starts talking about a product. As in how good it is and how they
heard of it. Then that person / customer will want that product. All thanks
to Marketing.
Well I got a little more than what is in the subject. But comments are
welcome. I enjoyed all the comments last time. If you are wondering if I
comment on other messages posted in the news group. I don't. Unless you ask
me.
Thank You,
Jake_Paws
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