Linux-Misc Digest #29, Volume #27 Mon, 5 Feb 01 11:13:02 EST
Contents:
Re: Playstation port (Dirk Groeneveld)
Re: KDE dependencies... (Dirk Groeneveld)
Re: cant connect to sourceforge (Dirk Groeneveld)
Re: I am out of date --- USB floppy possible? Also LILO (John Gotts)
Depressed penquin. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Permissions on symbolic links (Michael Heiming)
Re: modprobe not working in 2.4 (Mark Bratcher)
Can't umount (Dedicated to all Manson Fans)
Re: Which Linux distribution is best? (John Hasler)
Re: TCP/IP question (claude)
Hi, asking for help (tony)
Re: Which Linux distribution is best? (John Hasler)
Disk space not marked as free? (Fritz)
honorindirect=1 in gdm.conf (Morris M M Law)
open_ssl question ("Tom Edelbrok")
Squid Proxy Server? (Eric Chow)
print screen (JM)
Re: Can't umount (Steen Suder)
Re: open_ssl question (Michael Heiming)
Re: Unable to access or mount hard drive/floppy drive from Rescue mode (Lee Allen)
Re: Squid Proxy Server? (Michael Heiming)
Re: print screen (Michael Heiming)
Re: cant connect to sourceforge ("Peter T. Breuer")
HELP: LILO on Deskstart 45 gig ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: RAM advice ("Xavier Houppertz")
Re: Which Linux distribution is best? (Harold Stevens ** PLEASE SEE SIG **)
2.4 Kernel compile... (Jeffrey Hood)
Question about Zsh (VANTASSLE CRAIG R)
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From: Dirk Groeneveld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Playstation port
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 14:57:29 +0100
[linux on ps1]
Patrick Glennon wrote:
> it would be cooler to port to Dreamcast, since the price on all the
> hardware has tanked with them no longer going to make them.....
There is, however, a NetBSD port for Dreamcast.
http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/dreamcast/
It seems to be quite real...
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From: Dirk Groeneveld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: KDE dependencies...
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 14:59:44 +0100
nybblex wrote:
[can't install kde2 with rpms]
If your problem is just version numbers, try source rpms or better yet
tarballs.
But be warned, it takes a while to build!
Dirk
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From: Dirk Groeneveld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: cant connect to sourceforge
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 15:33:00 +0100
Peter T. Breuer wrote:
> Dirk Groeneveld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I have no clue.
> Could be anything, if you don't give us one either!
> What do your logs show?
/var/log/messages sais nothing.
The console I left with startx shows something like this:
[proxy URL "" is malformed and therefore being ignored]*
KSSL initialize
SSL initialized
SSL about to connect
KSSL connect
KSSL connect FAILED
After that, everything goes down the drain and shows me the error message.
w3m just dies, waiting for a connection. When logged in as root, w3m shows
me an empty login.php instead of waiting.
> What happens when you try it with lynx or netscape?
I have neither of them installed.
> Do you have a http proxy set?
Yes, but I tried it without it and it doesn't work either.
The proxy is wwoffle, it is capable of ssl, it does work with windows.
*The proxy is set up in konqueror in Settings/Configure/Proxy. It works for
normal connections.
> Are you in DNS?
Nslookup sourceforge.net gives me the correct ip, if that's what you mean.
> Can you telnet to their port 80?
Yes, I can browse the whole page, logging in via SSL is what failes.
I just tried logging in to amazon, doesn't work either. I guess there's
something about my ssl.
> Is your identd running?
No.
> etc.
The troubled PC is connected to an ethernet, it's ip is 192.168.100.1. On
the very same ethernet there's the proxy server which is connected to the
internet using a ISDN line. It is set up for masquerading, the ipchains
table is as follows:
Chain input (policy ACCEPT):
target prot opt source destination ports
- all ------ 0.0.0.0/0 192.168.10.200 n/a
- all ------ 0.0.0.0/0 192.168.100.200 n/a
- all ------ 0.0.0.0/0 192.168.0.99 n/a
Chain forward (policy DENY):
target prot opt source destination ports
MASQ all ------ 192.168.10.0/24 0.0.0.0/0 n/a
MASQ all ------ 192.168.100.0/24 0.0.0.0/0 n/a
ACCEPT all ------ 192.168.10.0/24 192.168.100.0/24 n/a
ACCEPT all ------ 192.168.100.0/24 192.168.10.0/24 n/a
Chain output (policy ACCEPT):
target prot opt source destination ports
- all ------ 192.168.10.200 0.0.0.0/0 n/a
- all ------ 192.168.100.200 0.0.0.0/0 n/a
- all ------ 192.168.0.99 0.0.0.0/0 n/a
(I know, this ain't safe, once i have the time i'll work it out, but it
works for now.)
This setup is doing well, I can even connect to hosts on the internet with
ssh.
The logs on the server show nothing.
Dirk
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Gotts)
Subject: Re: I am out of date --- USB floppy possible? Also LILO
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 13:40:46 GMT
On Sun, 28 Jan 2001 02:48:11 GMT, J. Otto Tennant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Second, does Linux support USB floppy drives?
Yes, just enable the USB storage module and mount your floppy as /dev/sdb.
If you don't yet have USB configured on your system, take a look at the
following:
http://linuxsavvy.com/staff/jgotts/vaio-pcg-c1xs.html
John
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Depressed penquin.
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 13:41:07 GMT
The article says it all: (long URL)
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/World/Australasia/2001-02/penguin030201.shtml
--
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From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Permissions on symbolic links
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 14:59:40 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'm pretty new to Unix and Linux.
>
> Can a symbolic link have different permissions, owner, group,
> stickybit, suid flag, etc. to the file that it links to? If so, what
> are the rules regarding these permissions - I'm guessing that I can't
> create an executable symbolic link to a file that I don't have
> executable permission on, for instance.
>
> Sent via Deja.com
> http://www.deja.com/
Hello,
a symbolic has always this permission:
lrwxrwxrwx
As only the permission of its destination really counts.
Good luck
Michael Heiming
Sysadmin
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Confucius say: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Bratcher)
Subject: Re: modprobe not working in 2.4
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 13:57:18 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jeff Pierce wrote:
>I upgraded to 2.4 from 2.2.16 mainly for USB to play with.
>I build kernel, USB as modules, and so on.
>Get modutils-2.4.1, configure build and install.
>Now I boot 2.4, no problems except for can't locate modules ppp, slip.
>I try to modprobe usbcore which gives me the 'can't locate module'
>error. Huh, its there under /lib/modules/2.4/kernel/usb.
>Ok, I try insmod usbcore and it LOADS. A lsmod lists it.
>Ok, I do a which and find I am using /sbin/modprobe with the right date,
>which is a soft link to insmod. I rm modprobe, execute it and get the
>'no command found'. Good, no other modprobe. I then relink modprobe to
>insmod and it still FAILS!!!! ofcourse after rmmod usbcore.
>
>So what is the difference in running insmod, which works, and modprobe,
>which is a link to insmod, and it fails to locate the module?
>In fact, why is there a modprobe command if it is just insmod?
>
>--
>Jeff Pierce
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>http://pages.preferred.com/~piercej
>
Jeff,
I went through this, too. If you check the Changes.txt for 2.4,
you'll find that you also have to upgrade the ppp stuff.
--
Mark Bratcher
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Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 15:09:51 +0100
From: Dedicated to all Manson Fans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Can't umount
When I try try to umount /dev/hda5 (mount-point: /usr) Iget the error
message 'device is busy'. This happens anytime, on shutting down,
rebooting or manual umounting (mad sentence, sorry for my english).
Any Ideas...
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Which Linux distribution is best?
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 05:08:26 GMT
Arctic Storm writes:
> 32 MB RAM isn't going to cut it.
Linux will do fine in 32MB as long as you don't try to run any memory hogs
such as the KDE and Gnome desktops.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin
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From: claude <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: TCP/IP question
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 09:31:03 +0000
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> hi
>
> when i try to disconnect from certain servers on the internet, netstat
> reports the connection is in a "TIME_WAIT" state, and it just remains
> that way, it doesnt completely disconnect. eventually, the number of
> connections in "TIME_WAIT" increase to the point that i can't use the
> internet properly and i have to reboot to solve the problem. is there
> any other way to force the connection to close so i dont have to
> reboot??
>
> thanks
> ali
do a process listing (ps aux) ; identify the pid and then do a kill #pid
(that would kill your ppp process;what do you mean ,"when you try to
disconnect from certain servers" ?also ,you might want to set up
networking and ppp again ,amybe smth. is messed up there;oh , and if you
do netstat -p you get maybe better info than with ps aux command.hope it
was of any help
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From: tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Hi, asking for help
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 14:30:08 -0000
Hi I am experiencing quite alot problems with my pc such as the printer is
not working properly. I tried to see the printer port that are connected
to my pc and there are only 2 ports that can be fixed to my pc 1 is the
graphic card that is connected to the monitor and the other one is the
original port to the mother board. I am not having problems with the
software as I have set it up properly from the control panel.
Another thing that I am having problem is that the floppy disk fail (40)
is the number of the message error. I changed the floppy disk but no
changes I checked the pin connector and they are ok. I made sure that the
bios setup was correctly without making anymistakes or unnecesary
changes. For the floppy disk I think that I am having problems with the
windows setup, control panel and the system. But the beginnig of the
commputer displays the message error.
Please help
Thanks
--
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http://www.help.com/
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Which Linux distribution is best?
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 13:45:36 GMT
Arctic Storm writes:
> Sure, 32 MB is "sufficient" to run X, but as you multitask email, web,
> newsgroup, text editors, etc., the hard drive will crank away swaping
> memory.
Only if you insist on using memory-hogging "desktops", huge GUI WYSIWIG
word processors, etc. for simple tasks.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI
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From: Fritz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Disk space not marked as free?
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 15:37:02 +0100
Hi,
I got the following problem:
Having two Linux partitions, one at moutpoint '/' (hda9) and one at '/usr'
(hda13), it appears that my root partition was filled up to 87%, so I
decided to move the '/opt' directory (580mb) to a newly created partition.
I did it like this:
1. move /opt to a spare place
2. delete /opt
3. create new /opt (md)
4. add new partition to mountpoint /opt
5. copy back old /opt /... to new
I expected to have my disk usage for hda9 thus lowered by 580M, about 50%
of the partition, however df still shows 87% of usage. On the other hand, I
see 34% usage on hda12, the new partition.
I verified that /opt now resides on hda12 (it does) and counted up manually
the values given by du for hda9 (which now are really about 300M), so I am
suspecting that the disk usage for hda9 is not correct.
Can anybody advise me ? I am not an experienced Linux user and might have
done something wrong. How can I get rid of this? Are there any utilities
to map directories and free space to partitions?
Thanks alot, Fritz
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From: Morris M M Law <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: honorindirect=1 in gdm.conf
Date: 6 Feb 2001 06:35:42 GMT
Dear all X-terminal users,
We had got plenty of X-terminals connected with PC running RedHat. When
the PCs are running RedHat 6.2, once I changed the parameter in gdm.conf,
namely,
[xdmcp]
enable=1
honorindirect=1
The X-terminals can display the gnome login using xdm indirect from other
hosts.
When all in a sudden the PCs were upgrade to RedHat 7.0, with the same
configuration, the X-terminal cannot display gnome login anymore and the
X display only should a cross 'X' with gray screen. It seems that it is
waiting for X-terminal to display the login prompt.
What make the difference? Could anyone help to sort it out? Thanks.
--
Morris Law
Assistant Computer Officer Address : 224 Waterloo Road, KLN, Hong Kong
Science Faculty Tel : (852) 23395909 Fax : (852) 23395862
Hong Kong Baptist University WWW : http://www.sci.hkbu.edu.hk/~morris
Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ : 6380626
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From: "Tom Edelbrok" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: open_ssl question
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 06:57:13 -0800
I have just installed open_ssl on my Redhat 6.0 system. Everything goes OK.
But I don't really understand the background of SSL except that it gives
secure sockets. So I'm still wondering what certificates are and if they are
really required for just running SSH. My real purpose is to just run SSH so
I can tap into a Linux box securely over the internet.
QUESTIONS: If all I want is SSH do I have to fill in all of the certificate
items in openssl.cnf? For example there is [CA_default],
[reqdistinguished_name], [usr_cert], each section of which has many
settings. In addition there are many other individual settings in this
configuration file. Do these things get used when I am only running SSH, or
are they only used for more advanced things like e-commerce?
Any help appreciated,
Tom
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From: Eric Chow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Squid Proxy Server?
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 14:51:33 GMT
Hello,
I use my Linux to dialup to ISP. And I setup a Squid proxy server in
Linux, it can allow all other macahines in the LAN connect to the
Internet(if set using the proxy in the browser).
But, is it possible to allow those machines in the LAN using Telnet,
FTP or other socket ?
Best regards,
Eric
Sent via Deja.com
http://www.deja.com/
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From: JM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: print screen
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 16:00:06 +0100
Hi,
I need to make a document with snapshots of a linux screen.
But with my redhat 6.0, the "printscreen" button of my keyboard doesn't
seem to work (when i push "printscreen" and then choose "Paste" in The
Gimp, nothing happens!).
Can somebody tell me how to make snapshots of my screen??
Thanks
JM
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From: Steen Suder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Can't umount
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 16:08:53 +0100
Dedicated to all Manson Fans wrote:
>
> When I try try to umount /dev/hda5 (mount-point: /usr) Iget the error
> message 'device is busy'. This happens anytime, on shutting down,
> rebooting or manual umounting (mad sentence, sorry for my english).
> Any Ideas...
Before shutdown, bring the system to single user mode (init 1). Then use
lsof | grep /usr and try to deduce what files/progs has a lock in /usr.
This may help you to find out if theres a process hanging somewhere...
--
/Steen
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From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: open_ssl question
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 16:07:45 +0100
Tom Edelbrok wrote:
> I have just installed open_ssl on my Redhat 6.0 system. Everything goes OK.
>
> But I don't really understand the background of SSL except that it gives
> secure sockets. So I'm still wondering what certificates are and if they are
> really required for just running SSH. My real purpose is to just run SSH so
> I can tap into a Linux box securely over the internet.
>
> QUESTIONS: If all I want is SSH do I have to fill in all of the certificate
> items in openssl.cnf? For example there is [CA_default],
> [reqdistinguished_name], [usr_cert], each section of which has many
> settings. In addition there are many other individual settings in this
> configuration file. Do these things get used when I am only running SSH, or
> are they only used for more advanced things like e-commerce?
>
> Any help appreciated,
> Tom
Hello,
perhaps you made a mistake or you are mixing things up, SSL and SSH are two
different things
even if both are suited for secure connections, but you use SSL for secure http
(AKA https) which runs
normally on port 443 (That's where you need those certs & CA to sign it)
SSH is for remote login, normally run on port 22 (sshd), from what you write
this is what you need, download
the newest version from http://www.openssh.com/
Read the docs and configure/compile/install it for your needs, enable your
firewall that you just can connect where
you come from (your ISP), set sshd as strict as possible and you shouldn't have
to worry....:-)
Good luck
Michael Heiming
Sysadmin
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Confucius say: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lee Allen)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Unable to access or mount hard drive/floppy drive from Rescue mode
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 15:08:04 GMT
On Mon, 05 Feb 2001 02:01:00 GMT, "David J."
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
(SNIP)
>In fact, in the /dev
>directory, the /dev/hda1, /dev/hda3 and /dev/fd0 devices don't even exist.
(SNIP)
I also use the RedHat CD for Rescue operations. The problem really IS
as simple as the previous responses suggested: You need to create the
missing /dev/* files using the 'mknod' command. Get the syntax from
the mknod man page, and get the correct major & minor codes by doing
on a fully functional Linux system:
dir -l /dev/fd0 /dev/hda /dev/hda1 ...
-Lee Allen
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From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Squid Proxy Server?
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 16:13:56 +0100
Eric Chow wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I use my Linux to dialup to ISP. And I setup a Squid proxy server in
> Linux, it can allow all other macahines in the LAN connect to the
> Internet(if set using the proxy in the browser).
>
> But, is it possible to allow those machines in the LAN using Telnet,
> FTP or other socket ?
>
> Best regards,
> Eric
>
> Sent via Deja.com
> http://www.deja.com/
Hello,
proxying ftp should be no problem, if it's not working, adjust your
squid.conf and reload squid...
Telnet is another story, IMHO it's not possible with squid, you
shouldn't use telnet anyway, as it's unsecure
as hell!
Setup ip_masquerading, on your router and use ssh instead, which does
everything and more telnet can do, but it's
encrypted...:-)
Good luck
Michael Heiming
Sysadmin
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From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: print screen
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 16:17:41 +0100
JM wrote:
> Hi,
> I need to make a document with snapshots of a linux screen.
> But with my redhat 6.0, the "printscreen" button of my keyboard doesn't
> seem to work (when i push "printscreen" and then choose "Paste" in The
> Gimp, nothing happens!).
> Can somebody tell me how to make snapshots of my screen??
> Thanks
> JM
Hello,
I don't know which window manager you use, I use KDE that has a small
program Ksnapshot
that does what you want, look what your distro has or search freshmeat,
shouldn't be a problem...:-)
Good luck
Michael Heiming
Sysadmin
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: cant connect to sourceforge
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 16:05:43 +0100
Dirk Groeneveld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Peter T. Breuer wrote:
>> Dirk Groeneveld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > I have no clue.
>> Could be anything, if you don't give us one either!
>> What do your logs show?
> /var/log/messages sais nothing.
> The console I left with startx shows something like this:
> [proxy URL "" is malformed and therefore being ignored]*
so your proxy is entered wrong for whatever service taht
was related to.
> KSSL initialize
> SSL initialized
> SSL about to connect
> KSSL connect
> KSSL connect FAILED
Fair enough. Mind you, I have never heard of KSSL. Have they got a
broken ssl implementation? Is it even ready?
> w3m just dies, waiting for a connection. When logged in as root, w3m shows
> me an empty login.php instead of waiting.
>> What happens when you try it with lynx or netscape?
> I have neither of them installed.
Then install them, and try them.
>> Do you have a http proxy set?
> Yes, but I tried it without it and it doesn't work either.
> The proxy is wwoffle, it is capable of ssl, it does work with windows.
> *The proxy is set up in konqueror in Settings/Configure/Proxy. It works for
> normal connections.
Why are you using ssl? What happens without ssl?
>> Are you in DNS?
> Nslookup sourceforge.net gives me the correct ip, if that's what you mean.
>> Can you telnet to their port 80?
> Yes, I can browse the whole page, logging in via SSL is what failes.
> I just tried logging in to amazon, doesn't work either. I guess there's
> something about my ssl.
Perhaps you are running an incompatible or broken version.
>> Is your identd running?
> No.
That could be a killer under many circumstances. Usually inetd
launches identd when it has to. Try and ensure that it can when it has
to.
> The troubled PC is connected to an ethernet, it's ip is 192.168.100.1. On
That's not routable. You know, that, I suppose.
> the very same ethernet there's the proxy server which is connected to the
> internet using a ISDN line. It is set up for masquerading, the ipchains
> table is as follows:
> Chain forward (policy DENY):
> target prot opt source destination ports
> MASQ all ------ 192.168.10.0/24 0.0.0.0/0 n/a
> MASQ all ------ 192.168.100.0/24 0.0.0.0/0 n/a
> ACCEPT all ------ 192.168.10.0/24 192.168.100.0/24 n/a
> ACCEPT all ------ 192.168.100.0/24 192.168.10.0/24 n/a
Is that both ways?
> This setup is doing well, I can even connect to hosts on the internet with
> ssh.
> The logs on the server show nothing.
Not even a connect? Does netstat show a connect?
Peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: HELP: LILO on Deskstart 45 gig
Date: 5 Feb 2001 15:12:43 GMT
Hi,
I have a new IBM Deskstart 45 gig disk.
I am unable to install LILO. Whatever I do (use regular, linear, lba32,
install in MBR orin root partition's boot sector) LILO never gets loaded. I
always get, I'm paraphrasing "no operating system" message from MBR.
BTW, I do have my root partition within first 500,000 sectors. And the
cylinders has more than 1000 sectors so I do not have a cyl < 1024 problem.
Has anyone got success with installing LILO on this device? If yes what did
you do?
Post or e-mail (yavuz <aT> nortelnetworks <dOt> com) as you see fit.
Thanks in advance.
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From: "Xavier Houppertz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RAM advice
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 16:22:33 +0100
> > here is a vmstat 5
> >
> > procs memory swap io system cpu
> > r b w swpd free buff cache si so bi bo in cs us sy id
> > 0 0 0 8152 4540 5128 98936 5 0 3 2 0 0 2 0 5
> > 0 0 0 8152 4540 5128 98936 0 0 0 0 160 160 0 0 99
> > 0 0 0 8152 4540 5128 98936 0 0 0 2 174 161 0 1 99
> > 0 0 0 8152 4540 5128 98936 0 0 0 0 177 160 1 0 99
> > 0 0 0 8152 4540 5128 98936 0 0 0 1 168 159 0 0 99
> > 0 0 0 8152 4540 5128 98936 0 0 0 0 175 162 0 1 99
> us + sy + id = 100, that's what it should be...
It is not ! 2 + 0 + 5 = 7 ???
The manual says the first line is the averrage since last reboot ... So ?
> Try writing vmstat to file and let it run a few days, this way you should
see
> where bottleneck is...
>
Ok, i'll do that.
> I wrote this script to get some usefull data if the loadaverage gets to
high,
> you can run it from CRON
> every min.
>
> Adopt it for your needs (put in vmstat...)
>
> #!/bin/sh
> # [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> # test loadaverage
>
> uptime >> /var/log/load.average.txt
> LOAD=`cat /proc/loadavg | awk '{ print int($1)}'`
>
> #The point we start gathering more data?
> LWATCH=5
> if [ $LOAD -ge $LWATCH ]
> then
> echo "--------------------------------------------------" >>
> /var/log/load.average.txt
> top bn 1 >> /var/log/load.average.txt
> echo "--------------------------------------------------" >>
> /var/log/load.average.txt
> ps faux >> /var/log/load.average.txt && dmesg >>
> /var/log/load.average.txt
> echo "--------------------------------------------------" >>
> /var/log/load.average.txt
> fi
>
>
> > /dev/sda:
> > Timing buffered disk reads: 32 MB in 4.64 seconds = 6.90 MB/sec
> >
> > is that ok ?
> >
> > Xavier
>
> Puh..., rather slow (SCSI-II?), for a DB server I would use something
quite
> faster, SCSI-U2W could give
> you ~20 MB/sec and more...
>
It is a wide SCSI (IBM ultrastar 9ES DDRS34560W) So ? is it so bad ? any
special driver to install ? (i did nothing, it was recognised by redhat!
Thx for the script,
Xavier
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Harold Stevens ** PLEASE SEE SIG **)
Subject: Re: Which Linux distribution is best?
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 15:26:08 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Hasler: John Hasler:
|> Arctic Storm writes:
|> > 32 MB RAM isn't going to cut it.
|>
|> Linux will do fine in 32MB as long as you don't try to run any memory hogs
|> such as the KDE and Gnome desktops.
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Hasler:
|> Only if you insist on using memory-hogging "desktops", huge GUI WYSIWIG
|> word processors, etc. for simple tasks.
Amen. Comments like "RAM is cheap; accept buggy hogware" is what The Lords
of Redmond propose. I run olwm with Lynx as a browser and positively avoid
any sites that insist I have java/javascript and/or hogs like Netscape for
passing their muster. Call me a Luddite if you like, but they don't pay me
enough to put up with that aggravation.
RAM, like clean water, is a finite resource, and can tolerate only so much
pollution before it becomes unfit for anything but parasites.
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From: Jeffrey Hood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 2.4 Kernel compile...
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 15:47:46 GMT
I am relatively new to kernel compiling, and downloaded the 2.4 source
last week... as per the instructions that I found, I did the following:
make mrproper
make xconfig
make dep
make bzImage
make modules
make modules_install
I -tried- to select all of the appropriate options in xconfig, but seemed
to have missed some of them as the kernel ran fine (after a few tries...)
but was missing some modules... most notably the nic driver... I ran
insmod on the modules that compiled, and some seemed to install okay...
After playing around, and having some more success, I got everything
pretty much working, but now I want to put 2.4 on my "real" box, and
found an option "make oldconfig" and was wondering if that is what I
should use to get ALL of the old kernel configuration before I start to
change things (my Athelon 800 wasn't picked up right by RHat 6.2, and I
have to put a lilo switch... supposedly if I pick the Athelon in xconfig
that should be fixed...)
So mostly, my question is should I run the following sequence, and am I
missing anything in trying to compile on a box that has all of the
devices and modules working fine (don't want to loose anything...)
make mrproper
make oldconfig
make xconfig - set new settings - and how do I check to see if everything
came in fine...
make dep
...
What should I be running prior to all of this to get an accurate list of
what I need to check, and where are the kernel options that were used in
the install of RedHat 6.2 located...
Thanks in advance...
JH
--
Jeffrey Hood
HM Consulting, Inc.
jhood [you-know-why] at hmcon.com
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From: VANTASSLE CRAIG R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Question about Zsh
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 09:45:48 -0600
I was wondering if there was any documentation on the ZSH of Red Hat
7.0. I want to get some in-depth knowledge on this shell. If anyone
knows any ideas please let me know. thanks
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