Linux-Misc Digest #39, Volume #20 Mon, 3 May 99 12:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522) (Christopher
B. Browne)
Re: Netscape 4.5 ("m")
Re: question... (Robert Brownback)
Re: The GNU Fragrance of Sharing vs. the Stench of Greed (was: GNU reeks of
Communism (really) (Robert Krawitz)
Re: The GNU Fragrance of Sharing vs. the Stench of Greed (was: GNU reeks of
Communism (really) (Robert Krawitz)
Re: how do i detect if x is running? ("Cameron Spitzer")
minicom question ("Lee Parker")
Re: Upgrading RH5.2 -> RH6.0 (Erica Vogle)
Re: DVD movies on Linux ? (Kwan Lowe)
Re: [solved] Re: how do i detect if x is running? ("David Z. Maze")
Re: "locale not supported"-- what does it mean (Marc Mutz)
Re: hp692c with SuSE6.0/apsfiler gets no response when printing (Paul Kimoto)
Re: Question (Przem Kowalczyk)
Print Driver for Lexmark 2030 ("Robear")
Re: linux on floppy? (Timothy Dixon)
Re: The GNU Fragrance of Sharing vs. the Stench of Greed (was: GNU reeks of
Communism (really)^
Re: The GNU Fragrance of Sharing vs. the Stench of Greed (was: GNU reeks of
Communism (really)^
Re: The GNU Fragrance of Sharing vs. the Stench of Greed (was: GNU reeks of
Communism (really)^ (Johan Kullstam)
Building facility for Linux (Ean)
Re: yeh right (Re: SUID games? What is RedHat doing?) (Barry Margolin)
Linux's Last Chance ("Dave Tansley")
FS: LAPTOP 100Mhz Pentium ("ASH")
Re: glibc 2.1 and 2.0.7 same time? (Paul Kimoto)
Re: Linux Modem Recommendation? (William Burrow)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher B. Browne)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 12:36:42 GMT
On Mon, 03 May 1999 04:05:50 GMT, Peter Seebach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Christopher B. Browne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>It looks like they're charging $75/incident, which may feel outrageous
>>to home consumer, but isn't too bad from a commercial standpoint.
>
>You still get install support for N days, yes?
I would evaluate *that* support quite differently, as it has enough
caveats as to make it, if not *actually* worthless, *virtually* so.
With the repricing of the "supported" boxed sets from $50 to $80, this
may allow the Red Hat folk to have a *few* dollars added to their
coffers to allow them to actually deploy a little bit of service.
(Although the other possibility is "profit-taking," which is quite
believable...)
>>... And if you've sat on hold for 20 minutes on a Microsoft 1-900
>>line, it is probably cheaper :-).
>
>Xerox had MS support. I tried it once; took 45 minutes or so to get to
>someone who confirmed that, when they say "TIFF", they mean "TIFF as it
>was more than four years ago", and have no plans of upgrading. To this
>day, I believe Office is mis-reading some B&W TIFF6 files.
There are no silver bullets...
--
Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
-- Henry Spencer <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - "What have you contributed to free software today?..."
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From: "m" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape 4.5
Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 01:54:02 GMT
It -should- be as easy as finding the rpm that came with RH5.2 and
"erasing" it...
rpm -e netscape4.07.rpm or whatever it is... check the rpm man page for
more info on that.
If that doesn't work, you can just delete it from the HD (or overwrite it
with the 4.5 version [that what I did - I suppose that is less appealing]).
Steve McClay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in article
<7giot7$n4c$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> Hello ppl, I just downloaded Netscape 4.5 for Linux 2 and installed it
> successfully in R.h 5.2. Now the problem is that I don't know how to
> uninstall Netscape 4.07(standard with R.H 5.2). I installed this
version(4.5)
> with the unix-script rather than the rpm file provided with the package.
Any
> help would be appreciated. Thanks, Steve.
>
> -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------
> http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
>
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From: Robert Brownback <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: question...
Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 03:30:58 GMT
If you're wanting to do this from the command line, use 'touch'
(check the man page for more info)
hellraiser wrote:
>
> is there any way to manipulate or change the date a file was created?
> like, for example, if i had a file made on may 2, could i change the
> date to something else, like march 5?
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From: Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
talk.politics.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.activism,alt.society.liberalism
Subject: Re: The GNU Fragrance of Sharing vs. the Stench of Greed (was: GNU reeks of
Communism (really)
Date: 03 May 1999 09:40:44 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Costello) writes:
> It also makes it easier for a company to add its own
> proprietary code for its servers to it without worrying about
> having to make it free. I fail to see any problems in that.
That's a matter of taste. Some people would prefer that companies in
such a situation should either preserve the freedom of the code or not
use it.
--
Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.tiac.net/users/rlk/
Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2
Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works."
--Eric Crampton
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From: Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: talk.politics.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.activism
Subject: Re: The GNU Fragrance of Sharing vs. the Stench of Greed (was: GNU reeks of
Communism (really)
Date: 03 May 1999 09:42:06 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> The GPL is not inherenly bad for any great social reason. The real reason it
> doesn't work is because it encorages inefficient software engineering models
> which results in a lot of very bad software being not just written, but
> propegated.
Explain further how the GPL (as opposed to laziness) encourages this,
please?
--
Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.tiac.net/users/rlk/
Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2
Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works."
--Eric Crampton
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From: "Cameron Spitzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how do i detect if x is running?
Date: 3 May 1999 04:15:31 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jim Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 2 May 1999 01:05:27 -0500,
> Paul Kimoto, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> brought forth the following words...:
>
>>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, digs wrote:
>>> If at the console I'd like to use vim
>>> if using x11 then nedit
>
>>Anyway, you could try to run some program that requires that X be
>>available, for example
>>
>>if xrdb -query > /dev/null 2>&1 ; then
How about checking for the X server's socket?
test -S /tmp/.X11-unix/X0 && echo The X server is running.
Cameron
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From: "Lee Parker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: minicom question
Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 16:22:32 -0400
I'm new to Linux. When I run Minicom, it's very slow in responding to
keyboard input. It connects to my ISP ok, but takes 20-30 seconds to echo
anything to my screen. As a result, username times out every time and I
can't get on. Any Ideas?
Thanks,
--
Lee Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ UIN 2117831
http://www.Find-It-USA.com
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From: Erica Vogle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Upgrading RH5.2 -> RH6.0
Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 22:54:28 -0500
Has glibc 2.1 been officially released? I assume it has, since RH is including
it. I've been checking out www.gnu.org for 2.1 for a while now, and no where
on their site have I found a reference to the release of 2.1. In fact, all
I've found are notes stating they've pulled the pre-2.1 for political reasons.
Has anyone tried the NIS+ code in 2.1?
--Brian
Michael McConnell wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Apr 1999, Bob Angell wrote:
>
> > Can anyone point me to some documentation where it
> > lists what packages I need to go from RH5.2 -> 6.0?
>
> Everything. RH6 is based around glibc 2.1
>
> It has compatibility libs for glibc 2.0 and libc-5 so your old apps will
> (should!) continue to run.
>
> -- Michael "Soruk" McConnell [Red Hat 6.0 Available!]
> Eridani Star System -- The Most Up-to-Date Red Hat Linux CDROMs Available
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.amush.cx/linux/ Fax: +44-8701-600807
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From: Kwan Lowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: DVD movies on Linux ?
Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 13:49:56 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> This may be a little off topic and I don't want to start a flame war,
> but I am curious. Why would someone want to watch a movie on a desktop
> computer? I have never understood this. The comfort factor would be my
> biggest objection. Then again, if you have a 36 inch monitor and your
> desktop is a studio screening setup...
>
> Bob Brashear
Easy --- I have no space for a TV *and* a computer monitor is clearer
than most TVs.
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From: "David Z. Maze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [solved] Re: how do i detect if x is running?
Date: 03 May 1999 10:19:38 -0400
digs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
digs> example 3. ------------------------
digs> #note:this example /appears to be the most fail proof/
digs> #as -each- xterm is assigned a unqiue variable
digs> if [ $WINDOWID ] ;then
Fails if there's an ssh connection between the display and this test.
(That is, if X is running remotely.)
digs> example 4. ------------------------
digs> ps u |grep xinit
Fails if X is running remotely, or if X is running via xdm, or ...
Really, the best way to do this sort of test is to check $DISPLAY, and
don't set the environment variable if there isn't an X server you can
readily talk to. Both examples 1 and 2 test whether DISPLAY is set
correctly.
--
David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://donut.mit.edu/dmaze/
"Hey, Doug, do you mind if I push the Emergency Booth Self-Destruct Button?"
"Oh, sure, Dave, whatever...you _do_ know what that does, right?"
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Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 13:33:04 +0200
From: Marc Mutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: "locale not supported"-- what does it mean
Bill Unruh wrote:
>
> I have suddenly gotten the following error message from my system (I believe that I
>recently upgraded
> XFree, together with all of the other redhat upgrades for 5.1)
>
> Warning: locale not supported by C library, locale unchanged
>
> This comes when I run xterm from the command line.
> What does this error mean, and how can I get rid of it?
'locales' are somthing like TERMINFO's in that its something like a
database that can tell interested programs, what the UPPERCASE version
of some lowercase letter (and vice versa) and such things. Because its
use is somewhat limited, the error message isn't really a mean thing.
We're living happily with it every time we start up our emacs...
Marc Mutz
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: hp692c with SuSE6.0/apsfiler gets no response when printing
Date: 3 May 1999 00:32:38 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newsgroups trimmed]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, -eric- wrote:
> also i was reading suse documentation.. and it said something about
> modprobe lp .. it comes back and says no such module.. where can i get
> this module.. when i did a make menuconfig for the kernel.. i found
> nothing on printers
Look for the options with PARPORT in 'em. You can search in
/usr/src/linux/Documentation/Configure.help . Also you might
want to read /usr/src/linux/Documentation/parport.txt .
--
Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Przem Kowalczyk)
Subject: Re: Question
Date: 2 May 1999 22:34:25 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Rizwan Syed in comp.os.linux.misc wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Wueppelmann) writes:
{cut}
> Ok.. here's the actual question I had, I guess I'm going to have to be a
> little more specific. Is it possible to 'hide' a user so that other users
> don't know he exists? So that it doesn't show up under /home/ and doesn't
> show up under /var/spool/mail/ ??? I want those files to be hidden so that
> only root can see, but noone else can. Is that possible?
There is a way. You have to remove read permission to /home directory:
[root@peterpan d2]# ls -l
total 19
drwxrwxr-x 168 root trusted 5120 May 2 17:43 doc/
drwxr-x--x 11 root root 1024 Mar 23 22:58 home/
^
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 12288 Mar 7 22:19 lost+found/
drwxrwxr-x 2 root trusted 1024 Mar 22 21:27 src/
And then you've got:
[przemko@peterpan przemko]$ cd
[przemko@peterpan przemko]$ cd ..
[przemko@peterpan home]$ ls
ls: .: Permission denied
You can still change dir, but only if knew it's name.
(there could be a small problem with bash at logon)
Przem
--
I watched you fall
I think I pushed
R.E.M
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From: "Robear" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Print Driver for Lexmark 2030
Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 14:38:10 +1000
I use Redhat 5.2. Is there a print driver for the Lexmark 2030 that will
work with this OS?
Thanks,
Robert
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy Dixon)
Subject: Re: linux on floppy?
Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 14:27:25 GMT
On Tue, 27 Apr 1999 23:13:26 -0700, Erik Ryberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I have been unsuccessful in my search for linux on 3" floppy. Several
>web sites advertise that it is easily available but I have not found
>this to be so. Can anyone point me to a source? I cannot download to
>my computer and it has no cd drive.
>
>Thanks.
>Erik Ryberg
Debian can be installed from floppies.
www.debian.org
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Crossposted-To:
talk.politics.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.activism,alt.society.liberalism
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The GNU Fragrance of Sharing vs. the Stench of Greed (was: GNU reeks of
Communism (really)^
Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 14:45:36 GMT
>>>>> Bill Bonde writes:
Bill> mlw wrote:
>>
>> Chris Costello wrote:
>> >
>> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mark S. Bilk wrote:
>> > > >For each person, it depends on timescale or personal
>> > > >interest. Some systems elevate a "class" of individuals to take
>> > > >advantage of others ("practical communism" and GPL),
>> > >
>> > > Amazing! Exactly what "class of individuals" is enabled
>> > > to "take advantage of others" by means of the GPL? All of
>> > > humanity minus Bill Gates?
>> >
>> > The GPL is a crock. It forces openness. That's not freedom.
>> > You like walking outside sometimes, I would bet. Would you like
>> > being *FORCED* to walk outside all the time? That's the key
>> > problem with the GPL and many recognize it.
>> >
>>
>> One is always FREE not to use GPL, aren't they? I think GPL is quite
>> liberating. You are free to use GPL and free not too. Freedom of choice.
>>
Bill> But this is not really freedom, is it? You aren't free to use the code
Bill> as you see fit, are you?
Yes, you are free to use it as you see fit. However, if you
try to sell it, then you are forced to release the source code
along with your application.
I see no violation of freedom here, and I do see some of the best
code around.
All hail emacs.
ah
(Now reading Usenet in talk.politics.misc...)
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Crossposted-To:
talk.politics.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.activism,alt.society.liberalism
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The GNU Fragrance of Sharing vs. the Stench of Greed (was: GNU reeks of
Communism (really)^
Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 14:46:25 GMT
>>>>> Chris Costello writes:
Chris> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>> On Sun, 02 May 1999 18:58:47 -0700, Bill Bonde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >mlw wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Chris Costello wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mark S. Bilk wrote:
>> >> > > >For each person, it depends on timescale or personal
>> >> > > >interest. Some systems elevate a "class" of individuals to take
>> >> > > >advantage of others ("practical communism" and GPL),
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Amazing! Exactly what "class of individuals" is enabled
>> >> > > to "take advantage of others" by means of the GPL? All of
>> >> > > humanity minus Bill Gates?
>> >> >
>> >> > The GPL is a crock. It forces openness. That's not freedom.
>> >> > You like walking outside sometimes, I would bet. Would you like
>> >> > being *FORCED* to walk outside all the time? That's the key
>> >> > problem with the GPL and many recognize it.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> One is always FREE not to use GPL, aren't they? I think GPL is quite
>> >> liberating. You are free to use GPL and free not too. Freedom of choice.
>> >>
>> >But this is not really freedom, is it? You aren't free to use the code
>> >as you see fit, are you?
>>
>> Sure you are.
Chris> As the GPL sees fit anyway. As in "as long as everybody can
Chris> get your source code," sure.
If you sell it, sure. If not, you have no obligation to
reveal your enhancements.
ah
(Now reading Usenet in talk.politics.misc...)
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From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
talk.politics.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.activism,alt.society.liberalism
Subject: Re: The GNU Fragrance of Sharing vs. the Stench of Greed (was: GNU reeks of
Communism (really)^
Date: 03 May 1999 11:13:25 -0400
Bill Bonde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I thought it was claimed that we were being pro-choice and pro-freedom?
> Forgive me for being wrong.
one can be pro-freedom without being an *anarchist*. freedom is not
primary. *justice* is primary. freedom really only exists in the
context of a just society. how free are you if vandals can come by
and clean out your house with impunity? i am sure a thief feels that
his `freedom' to break into your house and rob you blind is being
violated by the police, court and penal system.
--
johan kullstam
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From: Ean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Building facility for Linux
Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 11:31:28 -0400
Hi,
I am recieving at my site new Linux PC's. These PC are for people
visiting my site and the head sheds want the PC's rebuilt after each
visitor leaves. For this reason I would like to produce some CD Image
of a system and to rebuild the system I just use the one CD.
Is there such a facility for Linux? I am aware of this facitlties for
Solaris and HP-UX.
If so where and how?
Thanks
Ean
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From: Barry Margolin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.security.unix
Subject: Re: yeh right (Re: SUID games? What is RedHat doing?)
Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 15:35:56 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
hvddukp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 3 May 1999 06:32:47 GMT, Bill Unruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 2. "Many people administering Unix machines ... do not even know how to
> find out whether or not they have suid root programs running."
>
> Uh, no. If you don't know that then you aren't "administering" a
> Unix machine, you are just using one.
If you're the owner of a personal computer running Unix, you're the de
facto system administrator.
My customer base is businesses who get their Internet connections through
GTEI, and I work in technical support. We get calls on a daily basis from
people who have been forced into the role of Unix system administrator,
despite having virtually no experience using, let alone administering, Unix
systems. These are typically Windows shops that have a single Unix system
as their mail gateway, firewall, or something like that.
I'm starting to think we need something like Underwriter's Laboratories for
computer systems. It would be illegal to have someone with no experience
redo the electrical wiring of the building, but there's nothing stopping
management from handing system/network administration duties to someone
totally unprepared for it.
--
Barry Margolin, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
GTE Internetworking, Powered by BBN, Burlington, MA
*** DON'T SEND TECHNICAL QUESTIONS DIRECTLY TO ME, post them to newsgroups.
Please DON'T copy followups to me -- I'll assume it wasn't posted to the group.
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From: "Dave Tansley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Linux's Last Chance
Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 16:26:39 +0100
Well, despite being won over by the sheer spangliness of Gnome, I have to
say that I'm about ready to throw in the towel with Linux....It's just too
much hassle, life is too short. The list of problems I've had is beginning
to read like a biblical text, and the number of problems actually solved is
depressingly sparse.
Unless!! Anyone can help....So please, read through this list of dilemmas,
malfunctions and irritations and see if you can save a soul from Big Bill's
Evil Empire.
The story so far: Plucky but likeable scoundrel, Dave has recently been
experimenting with Redhat Linux. This isnt his first time installing a Unix
variant, and he considers himself to be competent and reasonably savvy.
Hell, m68k on his trusty beige pal, the Amiga 1200 was no walk in the park.
So, despite a few teething troubles with 5.1, he manages to get it ticking
over, albeit without the use of his modem and soundcard, but hell, what do
you want? Then along comes Redhat 6.0, which Dave recognizes as a worthy
upgrade. One 9 hour iso image download, and a trip to Mr CDR's Portable
Laser Clinic, Dave emerges with a lovely green RH6.0 install CD. Pop's it
into his computer and duly, and succesully upgrades his linux
installation.....and everyone lived happily ever after.....
Woah! Okay, so the last bit never happened....here's whats up:
1) LILO just doesnt work. Not even the usual "gets to LI then hangs"
problem. Nope, this gives me the full "LILO" prompt, followed by a very
mocking "Loading Linux......" message. But after that, nothing, nada, zippo,
zilch. Deader than a night out in Leeds. No errors messages, no cryptic
numbers or witty panic statement. Just dead. The fact that it gets past
"Loading Linux....." seems to suggest to me that LILO has worked, but the
Kernel is at fault? Anyone help here? My motherboard is a crappy PC Chips
M572.
2) Okay, so this wouldnt be too much of a problem. In fact, it was the same
with 5.1, and I got around it with using Loadlin. And I figured that I'd use
this again. So I copied the vmlinuz kernel from the distribution CD and
proceeded to load Linux with Loadlin. Problems on bootup included: lack of
msdos filesystem in the kernel. Sooooo, I couldnt mount my windows
partitions to copy off the real kernel to my loadlin directory. Oh, did I
mention that trying to use floppies in with my computer causes a lock up?
But only in Linux.....
3) Right, no problem again I thought, just boot with the old kernel and
mount the partitions. Done and done, but when I rebooted and tried to run
loadlin with the new kernel (vmlinuz-2.2.5 from the /boot directory), it
succesfully loads and uncompresses the kernel, then spews out a page of
numbers before kealing over to die. Bugger. I dont remember the exact error
message, at this stage I was banging my head against my desk (the doctors
say with plastic surgery, I may one day regain use of my nose!)
[To all those who have stuck with me this far, please accept my heartfelt
thanks (and suprise). Hey, why not go have a cup of coffee, take ten minutes
off....It only gets more complicated from here on in]
4) Right, I'm nothing if not a glutton for punishment, so I decide that the
kernel must have some thing that disagrees with my system. Mmmmm, smells
like time for a kernel recompile folks. Reboot, reload with
non-ms-dos-vmlinuz kernel and try to recompile the kernel. I run the usual
config programs, run make dep etc, and try to compile the
kernel.....Successful? Ahem...sure.
For the first time ever, I get a segmentation fault about 5 minutes into
compiling.....*sob*
5) And while I'm here...I may as well tell you about this, as it's quite
interesting, if quite tragic. I have the evaluation copy of McAfee antivirus
installed on my machine, with the annnoying nag thing that crops up when you
reboot. Now, because of this nagging, I decided to uninstall the program
(and also because I didnt intend to buy it, natch. Piracy is theft kids!)
Anyway, now that the offending lines have been removed from my autoexec.bat,
I tried to reload linux with loadlin....Guess what? No way Jose. It seems
that the pressence of the McAfee "Scan.exe" program in my autoexec is
required before my system can boot linux. If anyone has ANY idea why this
might be, I would be genuinely grateful.....
Okay, just to recap....what have we got? can't boot from LILO, can't boot
from floppy (as this uses LILO), in fact, can't boot at all without Mr
McAfee's help. Also, can't boot with kernel, cant use kernel that works for
anything useful, cant recompile new kernel. Deep psychological scars that
mean I'm putting my therapist on danger money!
It sounds like a complete write off to me. Please, try to help me. And
please, dont reply to this message saying "I have no such problems,
everything works for me!" This is the Linux equivalent of approaching a
blind man and saying "So, you can't use your eyes? Strange, mine work fine."
(coming next week: Dave tries to configure modem, soundcard, joystick,
mouse....)
Thanks folks.
--
Dave
ICQ: 20806179
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From: "ASH" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat,misc.forsale.computers.workstation,stl.forsale
Subject: FS: LAPTOP 100Mhz Pentium
Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 15:56:20 GMT
For Sale
MACHINE IS IN GOOD WORKING ORDER AND APPERANCE!
Toshiba Satellite 115CS
Pentium 100Mhz
24 MB RAM
810 MB Disk (have 2nd 810 MB disk for spare or 2nd OS)
600X800 256 colors Dual Scan Color Matrix screen
supports external 1024X768 256 Colors monitor
BackPack CDROM with Sound
"Y cable" (use external keyboard and mouse)
3 batteries
carry case
*choose between *
3Com Ethernet/Modem card (modem 33.6k/ether 10MB)
or
Megahertz modem 28.8 W/ cellular phone connector
(can add external mouse, keyboard, monitor. state your Offer is for these
also or I'll assume its without)
Software: win95, office97,Works,WinFax,Juno(Free Email),
NET ZERO(Free Internet access),
and more... (will through in a copy of Debian GNU linux)
I am taking serious offers.
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
for more info go to www.toshiba.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: glibc 2.1 and 2.0.7 same time?
Date: 3 May 1999 11:36:50 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ken Williams wrote:
> How could I setup my system so Star Office 5 actually works?
By switching to a distribution that uses glibc-2.0.
> I'm running the
> latest stampede which uses glibc 2.1, and Star Office won't install cause its
> wants 2.0.7. What should I do in detail to make SO work while still maintain
> glibc 2.1 as my primary lib? Anyone? Is it doable?
Apparently this may be doable by setting up a chroot environment for
glibc-2.0, but if you have to ask ...
--
Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Burrow)
Subject: Re: Linux Modem Recommendation?
Date: 3 May 1999 15:11:17 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 02 May 1999 19:32:33 -0500,
Andy Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Mark Nielsen wrote:
>> In article <7eu9e7$st9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >I am going to be buying a new modem that will be used with Linux RH5.2 and
>> >Win98, what is the most compatible yet most reliable 56k modem to get?
>> >Hayes? Rockwell? USR? Any suggestions will be appreciated.
>
>DON'T BUY A HAYES MODEM. You may be able to find really good deals on
>them, but DON'T BUY ONE. Why? Hayes is _gone_, it went bankrupt
>again, and apparently this time for good. If you buy one and it
>breaks, tough luck.
Well, as long as you can take it back if it doesn't work, it probably
isn't a bad deal. How long are 56K modems going to be popular for?
xDSL is going for cheap and spreading.
OTOH, the ancient Practical Peripherals (made by Hayes) 28k8 I've got
is a piece of junk compared to the 14k4 Supra I used to use. Dunno if
Diamond is offering as good a product as Supra was before it was
bought.
>I like external modems; I rarely have problems with them; I almost
>always run into something stupid with an internal modem, regardless of
>operating system.
External all the way is the way to go. The extra dosh is worth it.
--
William Burrow
Copyright 1999 William Burrow
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