Linux-Misc Digest #39, Volume #28 Tue, 5 Jun 01 18:13:04 EDT
Contents:
Re: /dev on vfat partition (Agent Smiths)
Re: /dev on vfat partition (Agent Smiths)
rf receiver serial port (piet)
Re: A plea to those posting questions (Ian Northeast)
Re: Linux box hang every week ("kyi")
X-server access problem in RH 7.1 (Andrew)
Re: I need a really small distro for an old puter (Sunil Patel)
Re: A plea to those posting questions (Steve Lamb)
Re: seeking Windows & Linux compatible email client ("Matt O'Toole")
Re: I need a really small distro for an old puter ("Missy")
Re: X-server access problem in RH 7.1 (nordi)
Re: Mandrake 8: how to change timezone? (Dave Uhring)
Re: A plea to those posting questions ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: A plea to those posting questions (Larry Ebbitt)
Re: Please help me get WIN98 back!! (Svend Olaf Mikkelsen)
Re: Please help me get WIN98 back!! (Svend Olaf Mikkelsen)
Re: TUX (Larry Ebbitt)
rc.local file. ("Liverpool_fc")
Re: linux box cannot be seen in networkneighbourhood of win2000. ("Liverpool_fc")
Re: i386,i486,i586 ... (Bill Unruh)
Re: Replicating Linux computers ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: /dev on vfat partition ("Peter T. Breuer")
Linux Gaming Question ("Multi User")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Agent Smiths)
Subject: Re: /dev on vfat partition
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 18:45:03 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows) wrote:
>Agent Smiths said:
>>Just tried to move linux from ext2 to vfat partition.
>
>??! You can't do that. As you've found out, FAT filesystems lack a
>number of things that Unix-like systems need, including file
>permissions, device nodes, and links.
Others did it. Just cannot find them on inet.
>At least two reasons I can think of: There is no way to create a device
>node on a FAT filesystem, so no initial console.
initrd could (in theory) make one initctl for me on
on-the-fly generated ram-disk mounted to /dev or something
similar...
>There is no way to set
>permissions on a FAT filesystem, so /bin/login cannot be owned by root
>and SUID (and that program must be owned by root and SUID!)
I didn't know login is so picky. Is it possible to turn off
login procedure and jump directly to shell? I have null
passwords anyway.
>What exactly are you trying to do here? Are you trying to do a
>"partitionless" Linux installation on top of Lose9x? If so, you're
>going about it the wrong way. In order to do that, you need to make a
>very large file in the Lose9x partition, make an ext2 filesystem within
>that file, and have the kernel mount that filesystem on / via the
>loopback device. Mandrake and PhatLinux can do this sort of thing.
>It's really not recommended because mounting / via loopback is slow.
RH sucks more resources than windows. I am trying to save
disk space. Therefore your loopback solution won't work.
Also I don't like commercial distros (due to RH XP).
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Agent Smiths)
Subject: Re: /dev on vfat partition
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 18:45:08 GMT
"Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>As to umsdos not using the vfat long file names .. that certainly used
>to be the case, and used to be mended by applying the dmsdos patch. I
>don't know what the situation is nowadays. I imagine that it might
>use native vfat long filenames, if asked to.
I will look at umsdos/dmsdos then. Thanks.
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From: piet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: rf receiver serial port
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 20:22:45 GMT
are there any rf receivers (which connect to the serial port ) and
transmitter known to work with linux?
piet
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From: Ian Northeast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: redhat.general
Subject: Re: A plea to those posting questions
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 21:27:08 +0100
Leonard Evens wrote:
> At least half the time when I respond to a question, I get email
> asking for further details. It is often easier to help someone
> in this way than to try to communicated through the newsgroup.
I disagree. I dislike personal emails from people I have tried to help,
if the subject is still on topic. The whole point is to have the answers
on the public record so others don't have to ask the same questions, and
for the questions to be seen by many people surely. Just because I knew
the answer to someone's first question doesn't mean that I'm the best
person to answer their second (or that I am right:) I prefer my answers
to be subject to public scrutiny than have someone follow my advice and
fail because it is wrong.
> I understand the desire to avoid spam; I get my share. But I
> doubt if many spam creators use mailings to linux newsgroups
> as a source of e-mail addresses. I don't seem to notice an
> increase in spam as a result of my relatively frequent postings
> to such groups which don't have any no-spam inserts in my
> e-mail address.
Well I seem to get a load of spam, and I contribute only to Linux and
other Unix related groups, plus a very occasional post to alt.food.wine.
I can't see where else it comes from. I recently revived a dialup
account I used to use at work, so I could be a "third party" for email
testing, from which I only ever posted to comp.unix.aix, and got 60 odd
pieces of UCE the first time I dialled it up. That is a less likely spam
source than Linux groups IMO.
However, I do feel that anyone munging their address should put an
explanation in a .sig so humans can tell.
NB my address *is* genuine.
Regards, Ian
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From: "kyi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux box hang every week
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 13:29:44 -0700
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I would say at the very least try the latest kernel and see if that
helps. I don't know what is causing the error but this could have
possiably been an issue awhile back, since you are running a very old
kernel. Anyway try the new kernel and see if it helps.
- -Jayson
http://linux.microbsys.com
Frank Cheng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi, folks,
>
> We have a Compaq PC running Debian Linux with Kernal 2.0.38. It is
> a Pentium Box with 16MB RAM. This box is simply running two
> scripts which dial out to test some NAS. One Rocketmodem and one
> RocketmodemII are installed in the box.
>
> This box hang every week. I do top to see if short of resource. CPU
> is not overloaded. Mem is still 1.5MB free plus 130MB free swap.
>
> From the console, I captrued the following message.
>
> <<
>
> Rocketport sInitch(1,0,6) failed
> Rocketport sInitch(1,0,7) failed
> Call Trace: [<00125085>] [<0012c8c4>] [<0012c90b>] [<00125116>]
> [00123697>] [<001237af>] [<0010a941>]
> [<0017b9b4>}
> Code: 0f bf 42 0c 39 f0 75 18 0f bf 4a 0e 39 cb 7c 10 0f bf 42
> 10 Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address
> c181e454 Current -> tss.cr3=00218000, %cr3=00218000
> *pde=0009e067
> *ptc=00000000
> Oops: 0000
> CPU: 0
> EIP: 0010:[<00171f70>]
> EFLAGS: 00010206
> eax: 00000004 ebx: 00000000 ecx: 00ebcd00 edx: 0181e444
> esi: 00000004 edi: 00ebcd00 ebp: 001a46f0 esp: 0009af0c
> ds: 0018 es: 0018 fs: 002b gs: 002b ss: 0018
> Stack: 0019098b 00000004 00125085 00000400 ffffffed 006e87f8
> 00ebcd00 00000001 0012c8c4 00000000 00000902 0012c90b 00ebcd00
> 00125116 00000004 00000000 00000080 0019098d 001a46f0 00125437
> 00000004 00000000 006e87f8 00000000
>
> >>
>
> Thanks
>
> Frank
>
>
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From: Andrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: X-server access problem in RH 7.1
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 20:30:08 -0000
Hi all,
We have recently installed Red Hat 7.1 on on of our servers. We are
looking to access it remotely. We have a seperate DHCP server which is
working fine. We have Gnome installed, and everything works just great on
the local machine. Unfortunately, when we try to access the machine
remotely (from another machine on the same LAN), we cannot connect. We
have no problem pinging the 7.1 box, but when we try and access it with
telnet or a remote X-server... we cannot access it. Telnet is installed so
it should work from the local machine. There only error messages we
getare "connection failed". We think it might be a problem with available
UDP ports on the machine. How do we check this, and how do we change the
settings? If anyone has encountered similar problems, their advice would
be very appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Andrew
--
Posted via CNET Help.com
http://www.help.com/
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From: Sunil Patel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,aus.computers.linux
Subject: Re: I need a really small distro for an old puter
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 21:40:35 +0100
Matthew van de Werken wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Riffraff"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > The Martian wrote:
> >
> >> I actually got redhat 5 to run on a IBM PS/2 55sx, that things a
> >> 386-sx16, with 8mb and a 120MB disk.
> >>
> >> This was years ago, so excuse my memory :-)
> >>
> >> The install was a real pig to do, I had to do a custom install and
> >> select nothing, in the packages selection screen. Also needed was a
> >> kernel recompile, to remove almost everything. I did the kernel
> >> recompile on another machine as this thing had no space for the kernel
> >> source.
> >
> > I've got an old Gateway Nomad with 4MB. I suspect Linux on this one
> > would be damn near impossible, yes?
> >
> > Oh well, it's about worthless anyway... :-/
>
> No, not impossible, in fact, I'd suggest this would be a good learning
> project if you're interested.
>
> You might be interested in reading the Linux on a 4MB laptop HOWTO
>
> There's also a number of micro-distro's that could be useful; Tom's
> Root-Boot might be a place to start, also the Linux Router Project.
>
> Do a search on Freshmeat and sourceforge; also go to www.linuxrouter.org
> (?)
>
> Cheers,
> MvdW
===============================================
I've a friend who has a 486/DX at 33Mhz, with 2Mb RAM, 512Kb Video and
110Mb Harddisk and just a floppy drive - currently running Windows 3.1,
but could it run Linux?
I imagine it damm well could, but which distro?
Sunil
-->Linux Mandrake 8.0<--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Lamb)
Crossposted-To: redhat.general
Subject: Re: A plea to those posting questions
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 20:48:01 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 05 Jun 2001 21:27:08 +0100, Ian Northeast
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>However, I do feel that anyone munging their address should put an
>explanation in a .sig so humans can tell.
I'm of the opinion that anyone who can't figure out my address from the
information in the article or how to contact me outside of email/news from the
same has no business talking to me. Big hint is that my email address can be
deduced quite simply from any posting I make, just not the From like or the
Reply-To line since the former is a domain that NSI won't release even though
the bastards are in the wrong and the latter is clearly wrong. ;)
--
Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your
ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls.
===============================+=============================================
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From: "Matt O'Toole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: seeking Windows & Linux compatible email client
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 13:48:17 -0700
How about running a Windows mail client in Linux, using WINE?
Other than that, Helmut's solution seems pretty good.
I wonder, are there are any Java mail clients worth using?
Matt O.
"Doctor X" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Dear All,
>
> I enjoy a triple-boot environment on my laptop: Linux, Win2K, and
> Win98. I would like to have access to my offline email no matter which
> environment I boot to. I thought that Netscape 4.77 would be the
> answer, I thought I could just point each O/S's Netscape to the same set
> of mail files, and it works fine between the two versions of Windows,
> but apparently the Linux version stores mail differently because they
> mail folders do not show up properly and I can not access the emails
> inside them.
>
> Can anyone recommend an email client which I can use across these 3
> platforms on the SAME set of offline (downloaded) email folders?
>
> Thanks, and please note that my return address must be modified to work.
>
>
>
> JJ
>
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From: "Missy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,aus.computers.linux
Subject: Re: I need a really small distro for an old puter
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 20:51:54 GMT
Thanks for all the suggestions....I'm thinking about getting Debian since
it's s'posed to be that best anyway, even if I'm not an expert on Linux. My
problem at the moment installing a new hard drive onto this old puter of
mine! That's not a big deal, just got a wrong cable.
I'll go see about Tom's Root-Boot too, b/c that's also been mentioned
several times.
Missy
http://missy842.tripod.com/
"Matthew van de Werken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Riffraff"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > The Martian wrote:
> >
> >> I actually got redhat 5 to run on a IBM PS/2 55sx, that things a
> >> 386-sx16, with 8mb and a 120MB disk.
> >>
> >> This was years ago, so excuse my memory :-)
> >>
> >> The install was a real pig to do, I had to do a custom install and
> >> select nothing, in the packages selection screen. Also needed was a
> >> kernel recompile, to remove almost everything. I did the kernel
> >> recompile on another machine as this thing had no space for the kernel
> >> source.
> >
> > I've got an old Gateway Nomad with 4MB. I suspect Linux on this one
> > would be damn near impossible, yes?
> >
> > Oh well, it's about worthless anyway... :-/
>
> No, not impossible, in fact, I'd suggest this would be a good learning
> project if you're interested.
>
> You might be interested in reading the Linux on a 4MB laptop HOWTO
>
> There's also a number of micro-distro's that could be useful; Tom's
> Root-Boot might be a place to start, also the Linux Router Project.
>
> Do a search on Freshmeat and sourceforge; also go to www.linuxrouter.org
> (?)
>
> Cheers,
> MvdW
>
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From: nordi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: X-server access problem in RH 7.1
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 23:03:46 +0200
Andrew wrote:
> Telnet is installed so it should work from the local machine. There only
> error messages we get are "connection failed".
Is telnet installed or telnetd? In order to start a connection, you must
have telnetd installed _and_ it has to be running (see /etc/xinetd.conf on
RH systems). What about connecting via telnet from the Linux box to itself?
>We think it might be a problem with available UDP ports on the machine.
Surely not. Telnet doesn't use UDP, and your machine cannot run out of
ports (assuming you are not running >60,000 apps at once)
Do you have a firewall set up that might mess up things?
nordi
--
Linux - Less bugs for less bucks!
Visit http://private.addcom.de/nordi
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From: Dave Uhring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mandrake 8: how to change timezone?
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 16:06:09 -0500
Grant Edwards wrote:
> I can not figure out how to set the timezone in Mandrake 8.0.
>
> Changing it in linuxconf has no effect.
>
> There doesn't seem to be an /etc/localtime or
> /usr/share/zoneinfo/localtime file, and the TZ environment
> variable isn't set. Where does Mandrake store timezone
> settings?
>
man tzselect
man timeconfig
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: redhat.general
Subject: Re: A plea to those posting questions
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 23:06:26 +0200
Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 05 Jun 2001 21:27:08 +0100, Ian Northeast
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>However, I do feel that anyone munging their address should put an
>>explanation in a .sig so humans can tell.
> I'm of the opinion that anyone who can't figure out my address from the
> information in the article or how to contact me outside of email/news from the
> same has no business talking to me. Big hint is that my email address can be
No, you don't understand. When *I* reply to someone I don't look to see
if their email address is fake beforehand. When writing the mail I
can't see it. After I send the mail, I can't see it. The only notice I
get is a few minutes or half an hour later or 3 days later or whenever
the mail system returns me a bounce notice. Then I have to go through
the bounce, edit it, guess at what the real mail address may be (how? -
usually all clues have disappeared), and resend. Sometimes twice,
sometimes more.
DDDDDON'T MUNGE YOUR EMAIL ADDRESSS!!!! (screams).
> deduced quite simply from any posting I make, just not the From like or the
Idiot.
Peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Larry Ebbitt)
Subject: Re: A plea to those posting questions
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 5 Jun 2001 21:31:07 GMT
>
> How about just not mailing the response? Common theme on most newsgroups
> that if someone asks a question on the newsgroup they can return to read the
> replies there. If I ever ask a question I certainly am not going to undo my
> spam protection nor will I point out that I don't want an email. I never
> asked for the darned thing in the first place.
Rats. I agree with you and I was going to have some fun.
--
Larry Ebbitt - Linux + OS/2 - Atlanta
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Svend Olaf Mikkelsen)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Please help me get WIN98 back!!
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 21:22:30 GMT
"Somphong K" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>When I mentioned I could not boot from Wind98 recover diskette,
>I meant the PC read the floppy for a few seconds, then turn to
>read the C drive (/dev/hda) over and over. I could see the disk
>access indicator lit on and off. The only way to get out was to
>do ctrl-alt-del :-) It happened the same way with Win98 CD.
>
>I reshuffled boot device sequence a few times (floppy/HD/CDROM)
>but to no avail.
>
>Please find herewith the fdisk diskplay of both drives. I would
>really appreciate some advice how to fix the problem.
>
>Rgds somphong
>Disk /dev/hdb: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 2100 cylinders
>Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes
>
> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
>/dev/hdb1 * 1 3 24066 83 Linux
>/dev/hdb2 4 2100 16844152+ 5 Extended
>/dev/hdb5 4 1023 8193118+ 83 Linux
>/dev/hdb6 1024 1661 5124703+ 83 Linux
>/dev/hdb7 1662 1820 1277136 83 Linux
>/dev/hdb8 1821 1886 530113+ 83 Linux
>/dev/hdb9 1887 1952 530113+ 83 Linux
>/dev/hdb10 1953 2018 530113+ 82 Linux swap
>/dev/hdb11 2019 2084 530113+ 83 Linux
>/dev/hdb12 2085 2100 128488+ 83 Linux
You have cyclic partition tables (as I told you one week ago).
Change the ID of the extended partition on disk 2 (hdb2) from 05 to 85
using Linux fdisk.
--
Svend Olaf
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Svend Olaf Mikkelsen)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Please help me get WIN98 back!!
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 21:28:30 GMT
"Somphong K" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Disk /dev/hda: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 3736 cylinders
>Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes
>
> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
>/dev/hda1 * 1 2040 16386268+ b Win95 FAT32
Reply no. 2.
Well, there is one error more. The ID of the FAT32 partition on disk 1
(hda) must be 0C, not 0B, since the partition ends later than 1 based
cylinder 1024. If you leave it as 0B data loss will occur.
If more than about 8 GB of data has been written to the partition
damage may already have occurred.
--
Svend Olaf
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Larry Ebbitt)
Subject: Re: TUX
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 5 Jun 2001 21:39:10 GMT
>
>
> Documentation is one thing Linux has plenty of.
>
Yes, with major thanks to the LDP.
--
Larry Ebbitt - Linux + OS/2 - Atlanta
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From: "Liverpool_fc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: rc.local file.
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 17:26:05 -0400
hello,
it appears that in rh7.0 the rc.local file is the new autoexec.bat (dos)
equivalent.
however this file looks like a script. and i need to add a few services/
modules that start on boot.
example virtport (command) (options).
from my experience if you fiddle with a script your syntax needs to be
correct.
adding a command line like the example above will cause the script to give
errors.
any suggestions?
thank you.
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From: "Liverpool_fc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: linux box cannot be seen in networkneighbourhood of win2000.
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 17:31:49 -0400
thank you.
all the pc's and server are in the same subnet.
192.168.27.1 - 192.168.27.100
there are no wins, dhcp or dns servers.
simple lan with one rh6.2 box, 5 win98/95 boxes and one win2000 workstation.
only the win2000 cannot see the rh6.2 server in network neighbourhood.
thank you.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: i386,i486,i586 ...
Date: 5 Jun 2001 21:33:16 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hajo Drescher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
]I was wondering about the meaning of these
]numbers when I install for example Redhat 7.1.
]Ok, I know these are the generation of the processors.
]But, all RPMS are in a directory i386 - for Redhat,
]does it mean that these are compiled for a i386 ???
] why do they do so ???
So that the system can be installed on any computer from 386 on up.
]For Madrake I find a i586 directory, so is it more efficient
Actually I have read an argument that the 586 "optimisation" is the
worst of the whole lot, that it is slower than even 386. Have no idea if
that argument is valid or not.
]for Pentiums, and K6 and so on????
]I would appreciate if someone coud clarify this question
]or give me some reference
If you want you can recompile everything ( using the --rebuild command
to rpm) for whatever processor you want. This may give a small advantage
in some cases.
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Replicating Linux computers
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 23:16:18 +0200
Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
>>
>> Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > "Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Christopher Albert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> > Uri Van Creveld wrote:
>> >> >> I have 50 identical PC's on which I want to run Linux.
>> >> >> I don't want to run the installation on each one,
>> >> >> And I'm not so keen on using dd because it means opening them all up etc.
>> >>
>> >> dd if=/dev/hda1 bs=102400 | ssh other_machine dd of=/dev/hda1 bs=102400
>> >>
>> >> >> What is the best way to do it? Is ghost good for it? something else?
>> >>
>> >> or
>> >>
>> >> tar cvlpfC - /mnt/hda1 . | ssh other_machine tar xvlpfC - /mnt/hda1
>>
>> > You need some kind of rescue system CD/disk to boot, it has to contain
>>
>> Well of course. For "ghost" too! You can't do a copy without an
>> operating system.
> Agreed. But why even bother with using a hd in some workstations?
You don't need one (did I say you did?).
>> The only difference between ghost and tar or dd over ssh or rsh is
>> that ghost uses a broadcast protocol, so it's log(#machines) faster.
> I haven't used ghost, however from the ltsp homepage:
> Linux makes a great platform for deploying diskless workstations that
> boot from a network server. The LTSP is all about running thin client
> computers in a GNU/Linux environment."
Errr, diskless workstations have been around for twenty years.
The time I need advice on setting one up, or a howto on how. it'll
be time to feed me to the fishes! Do you really regard such as setup as
unusual? You need a bootp server and a network card with a prom, and
that's that. You can do without the prom if you use a floppy. In fact
you don't need the server if you use a floppy - which you need anyway -
since all you have to have on the floppy is a kernel, a mount
executable, a cp or tar executable, a mke2fs executable, a fdisk
executable, and THAT's that (you nfs mount the servers stuff on the
floppy and copy it to the hard disk partition of choice).
The point is that ghost does it via broadcast, so you can do 50 at
once. You'd need 50 helpers to do it at once the way I just described.
Mind you, you could race round the room with the floppy. I once wrote
the /etc/rc file to do all that while installing a room full of
clients. As I recall, it took me the first two rows (about 8 machines)
to get it right. The trouble is that one has to program in a reboot
in order that the kernel sees the new partition table .. either that or
you have to hope that all the bioses and all the disks are exactly
alike (they never are) and dd the whole disk (which is how ghost does
it, usually).
Peter
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: /dev on vfat partition
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 23:18:24 +0200
Agent Smiths <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows) wrote:
>>Agent Smiths said:
>>>Just tried to move linux from ext2 to vfat partition.
>>
>>??! You can't do that. As you've found out, FAT filesystems lack a
>>number of things that Unix-like systems need, including file
>>permissions, device nodes, and links.
> RH sucks more resources than windows. I am trying to save
> disk space. Therefore your loopback solution won't work.
You need about 8MB for a sensible working networked installed system
(stripped down debian, but you can strip down anything).
> Also I don't like commercial distros (due to RH XP).
XP?
Peter
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From: "Multi User" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.games.quake,alt.games.quake3
Subject: Linux Gaming Question
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 21:41:04 GMT
Hi,
Well, everyone's answers got me to where I installed a dedicated Quake 3
Arena server on my RHL 7.0 box. Eventually I want to host other Net players.
But right now, I'm just trying to play internally.
My Win98 machine cann see the Linux box, ping it, tracert it, FTP in and
out, and see HTTP content on it. But when I run the Q3A server, I can't see
it from inside the Quake Game on my Windows box.
Here's the output from the dedicated Q3A server on the Linux box. Note the
command line that specifies the desired IP.
[16:42:48][root][local]# /usr/local/games/q3demo/q3ded +set dedicated 2 +set
com_hunkmegs 16 +set net_ip 192.168.20.10
Q3 1.11 linux-i386 Dec 4 1999
===== FS_Startup =====
Current search path:
/root/.q3a/baseq3
/usr/local/games/q3demo/baseq3
======================
Running in restricted demo mode.
===== FS_Startup =====
Current search path:
/root/.q3a/demoq3
/usr/local/games/q3demo/demoq3/pak0.pk3 (1387 files)
/usr/local/games/q3demo/demoq3
======================
execing default.cfg
execing q3config.cfg
couldn't exec autoexec.cfg
--- Common Initialization Complete ---
Opening IP socket: 192.168.20.10:27960
Hostname: localhost.localdomain
Alias: localhost
IP: 127.0.0.1
dedicated is read only.
Hitch warning: 831 msec frame time
I go into Quake on the Win box and scan for servers but none come up. Same
problem when I specify the address to connect to.
Help!
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