Linux-Misc Digest #66, Volume #20 Wed, 5 May 99 02:13:11 EDT
Contents:
Re: newbie linux questions (Albert Goins)
Re: Help can't delete file .... (Jerry Lynn Kreps)
Re: MS Exchange and Linux (Ken Williams)
X86EMU: Project Leadership Change! (Kendall Bennett)
Re: MS Exchange and Linux (Mike)
Re: /etc/profile, xdm and a .xsession file (Josh Stern)
tell me linux---? ("Patrik")
Re: multiple X sessions (Christopher B. Browne)
Re: viewing Linux Xserver Xfree86 on NT ? (Robin Jackson)
Re: NT Loader w/Linux--Help ("Guanmin Feng")
Re: Downloading and installing Linux. ("George Georgakis")
PPP problems
Re: GNU reeks of Communism
Star office on glibc 2.1? (Ken Williams)
Re: CLI app: *.jpg -> thumbnail-*.jpg (jason)
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From: Albert Goins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: newbie linux questions
Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 20:16:30 -0500
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mist wrote:
> Albert Goins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribed to us that -
> >I have installed Red Hat 5.1 on my new machine after not having a
> >machine to put Linux on for 3 years. A lot has changed in that time and
> >I have a few questions I am having trouble finding answers to.
> >
> >1. Why doesn't LILO work?
>
> <snip> Most likely because the windows 98 partition is formatted as
> FAT32 and the two are incompatible. (Lilo and FAT32).
>
So there is no way to have LILO on a Win98 system?
>
> >
>
> <snip>
>
> >
> >3. Why won't my windows 98 drive mount to /win98 like I told it to?
>
> I've no idea. How are you trying to mount it? What's the error?
>
> >How do I do this other than using disk Druid in the Red Hat install?
> >What about my cdrom (IDE)?
>
> What about it?
>
> --
> Mist.
how do I mount my cdrom and how do I mount my win98 partition?
Can Linux handle mounting a Win98 Fat32 partition?
Thanks :)
--
Albert Goins
University of Minnesota Twin Cities
Computer Science
Lab Consultant EE/Csci 4-204, MechE 308
ICQ# 31412664
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.itlabs.umn.edu/~goin0004
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mist wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>Albert Goins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribed
to us that -
<BR>>I have installed Red Hat 5.1 on my new machine after not having a
<BR>>machine to put Linux on for 3 years. A lot has changed in that
time and
<BR>>I have a few questions I am having trouble finding answers to.
<BR>>
<BR>>1. Why doesn't LILO work?
<P><snip> Most likely because the windows 98 partition is formatted
as
<BR>FAT32 and the two are incompatible. (Lilo and FAT32).
<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE>
So there is no way to have LILO on a Win98 system?
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>
<BR>>
<P><snip>
<P>>
<BR>>3. Why won't my windows 98 drive mount to /win98 like I told
it to?
<P>I've no idea. How are you trying to mount it? What's the
error?
<P>>How do I do this other than using disk Druid in the Red Hat install?
<BR>>What about my cdrom (IDE)?</BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>
<BR>What about it?
<P>--
<BR>Mist.</BLOCKQUOTE>
how do I mount my cdrom and how do I mount my win98 partition?
<BR>Can Linux handle mounting a Win98 Fat32 partition?
<P>Thanks :)
<PRE>--
Albert
Goins
University of Minnesota Twin Cities
Computer Science
Lab Consultant EE/Csci 4-204, MechE 308
ICQ# 31412664
<A HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A>
<A
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From: Jerry Lynn Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help can't delete file ....
Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 19:29:18 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I have accidentally createed a large file named "-C" (w/out the quotes).
> Now I can not do an rm or mv it. Any ideas ?
Open a console and execute mc (Midnight Commander). Right-click on the
file name and press F8.
--
JLK
Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is
right.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ken Williams)
Subject: Re: MS Exchange and Linux
Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 05:29:22 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jeff Koch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Does anyone know if someone is working on a Linux client for MS=20
>Exchange? My company is going to Exchange in the near future and I=20
>would really like to divorce myself permanently from Windows...
There isn't anything like Exchange for Linux, but its just a pop client, so
you can use anything. You won't be able see ms post office messages with
another client though, but the post office is waste because of E-mail now.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kendall Bennett)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.alpha,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.powerpc
Subject: X86EMU: Project Leadership Change!
Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 17:45:11 -0500
Hi All,
Some of you may be familiar with the x86emu project, which is GPL'ed x86
real mode emulator that can be compiled and used with the Linux MILO
loader for DEC Alpha systems. The emulator that is included in the
current MILO sources, and what I have found on the internet (x86emu-
0.0.tar.gz) appears to be lacking in functionality in some areas,
specifically in the support for 32-bit instructions from real mode code
(which many modern VGA BIOS'es use). MILO itself does not use this
emulator by default, but rather uses the DEC provided binary only
emulator.
Since the emulator has a lot of uses on both x86 systems as well as non-
x86 systems, we have started work on updating the emulator to support the
latest Intel instruction sets. I have contacted the original author of
the x86emu project (David Mosberger-Tang), and although David is still
interested in the project, he has not had the time to continue to
maintain it for quite a while. Hence I have now become the new official
maintainer for this project.
This new emulator has a number of uses on both x86 systems and non-x86
systems. For x86 systems, it can be used to bring up multi-head graphics
controller configurations via the BIOS as well as provide the Linux
kernel with the ability to call the VESA BIOS safely at runtime from
within the fbcon device drivers. For non-x86 systems this can be used to
initialise any PCI/AGP graphics controller via the real mode BIOS, and it
could also be used to bring up any other controller that has a BIOS on it
(such as SCSI adapters and the like).
If anyone is interested, perhaps we should set up a new mailing lists
specifically dedicated to the x86emu project?
Regards,
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike)
Subject: Re: MS Exchange and Linux
Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 05:21:41 GMT
If there is I'd love to hear about it. If you can talk your Exchange
admin into enabling imap or pop3 support you shouldn't have any
problems as these clients already exist for linux. If they insist on
mapi and nothing else, you're hosed. Needless to say, I'm hosed at
work. :(
mike
On Tue, 04 May 1999 20:06:19 GMT, Jeff Koch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Does anyone know if someone is working on a Linux client for MS
>Exchange? My company is going to Exchange in the near future and I
>would really like to divorce myself permanently from Windows...
>
>Thanks,
>Jeff
>
>
>
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Crossposted-To: aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: /etc/profile, xdm and a .xsession file
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Josh Stern)
Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 05:40:19 GMT
Brent A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm using debian slink 2.1 and am having trouble with getting linux to read
>in the settings from /etc/profile when someone logs in. It only seems to not
>work if the user logs in using xdm, and a .xsession file. Seems to work fine
>when the user has no .xsession file, or logs in through the one of the
>consoles. Does anyone have any idea what could be causing this?
I think you are correctly describing the way it is supposed to work.
The /etc/profile is for a sh compatible login shell, initiating
a session. In the case of xdm, it is xdm itself that initiates
the login session. You might want to have the global Xsession
script source the /etc/profile.
- Josh
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From: "Patrik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: tell me linux---?
Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 13:37:10 +0800
Hello, i'm a Linux Newbie, just started Xwindows in Red hat 5.1.
Please tell me more about the OS's capabilities, and good
text to refer to.
thanks
patrik
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher B. Browne)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: multiple X sessions
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 05:37:27 GMT
On Tue, 04 May 1999 23:53:55 -0500, Duane A. Bielling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted:
>Christopher Browne wrote:
>>
>> Many (most?) window managers offer the ability to switch between
>> virtual desktops in one manner or another. Tell us about your
>> favorite window manager, and we may be able to tell you how to
>> accomplish that which you want...
>
>I've read about running multiple instances of X in "Running Linux." I
>found out that by pressing the Alt+F1 through Alt+F6 keys I can get as
>many shells running concurrently. But once I start an X session in one
>of them I can't seem to figure out how to get back to one of the other
>sessions to invoke a second X session.
You probably don't want to invoke a second X session. That would
consume memory for the second X server instance, and might even demand
a second video card.
Far better to simply use multiple "panes" in the terms you use below.
By the way, the way to get back to the console is probably to try
(control)(alt)-F1 (all pressed at the same time). There seems to be a
logic to this; I can't articulate the precise reasoning for adding the
(control) to the mix.
You can get back to the X session by going to the virtual console that
comes "after the last one attached to a login." That is commonly
going to be (alt)-F7.
>Just an observation from a newbie.
>
>Oh, I've discovered that in the AfterStep interface that came with RH5.1
>I can have four 'panes' per "Desk" and a total of four "Desks." That
>gives me 16 different places to store (hide?) stuff. Anything more and
>I think I might lose myself. ;-)
The number of "panes" is usually configurable, so you may modify that
as needed. I think that what you're running there is likely FVWM2,
with a bunch of configuration that simulates the AfterStep window
manager.
>One last thing. As a help to fellow newbies I would like to recommend
>two books. Running Linux, 2d ed. (O'Reilly) and Linux in a Nutshell
>(O'Reilly). The former is a primer for doing stuff in Linux from
>installation to using vi to getting X installed. The latter is a
>desktop reference that complements the man pages quite well, IMO.
Running Linux is an excellent source to browse through to find "cool
stuff to try."
>A third book which I have yet to purchase (will be doing so shortly) is
>entitled Volume 3: X Window System User's Guide Standard Edition
>(O'Reilly). I've been told that O'Reilly is the defacto standard for
>publishing quality Linux manuals. IMO they are two for two.
When I was last shopping for detailed X guides, it was Volume 3 that I
got. It has a goodly mixture of lots of useful info on configuring
and using X.
There are two editions: one directed at users of Motif, and one
directed at those using "not Motif." Given choice, I'd suggest the
"not Motif" portion of the series.
--
Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
-- Henry Spencer <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - "What have you contributed to free software today?..."
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robin Jackson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: viewing Linux Xserver Xfree86 on NT ?
Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 05:39:38 +0000
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
gus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Robin, I post this for two reasons, the first is that I think I know the
>answer, and the second is that, if I do, then it helps you, if not, then
>I learn something new ...
>
>... so, verify I am correct before trusting this as accurate.
>
>startx will always start an X window manager on the Linux machine.
>Remember, the X server *always* operates on the *client* machine. So, if
>you want an X window session on an NT box, then the X server must run on
>the NT box. The Application server is the Linux box. MI/X *is* the X
>server. If you are at the Linux console, then Xfree is the X server. The
>trick is that you can tell any X aware app which server to display
>itself on. So, the DISPLAY environment variable indicates to the
>application which X server to communicate with. It will default to the
>linux machine, but this can be changed by setting the DISPLAY variable.
>
>So, From your NT box, start MIX. Then telnet to the Linux box and log
>in. Set the DISPLAY variable to "export DISPLAY=<NT-IPAddress>:0.0
>
>Then, do something like "xterm &".
>
>At no point have you said "startx". There is no need.
>
>My only concern is that IIRC, MIX does not support the "qt" libraries or
>something, so KDE does not run correctly.
Hi
All the above work son my Mac (not NT).
The problem is I don't just want an xterm I want the same type of desktop,
startbar, control panel that I see on my Linux box.
I have it partially sorted by doing an exec fvmw2 (or something like that)
but it is not working perfectly.
Robin
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From: "Guanmin Feng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: NT Loader w/Linux--Help
Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 21:36:29 -0400
The point here is that Ronnie followed the mini-HOWTO (I guess) but it
didn't work. I did exactly the same thing but it works fine. I'd like to see
some response that hits the nail at head.
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From: "George Georgakis" <hotmail.com@hurro>
Subject: Re: Downloading and installing Linux.
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.linux.slakware,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.caldera,alt.os.linux.dial-up,alt.os.linux.redhat,alt.os.linux.slackware,at.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 01:04:46 GMT
Wrong newsgroup. Who cares?
George
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Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 01:44:04 -0400
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PPP problems
I have problem with my dialup connection.
I'm using LinuxPPC 4.1 on a G3 Series Powerbook with
an external wireless Ricochet modem, and using
kppp to connect to my ISP. After dialing-up, the kppp
panel shows that I'm connected at 57600, however
when I try to telnet to a host it hangs. This is as
far as it goes;
# telnet mail.his.com
Trying 205.177.25.9...
Connected to mail.his.com
Escape character is '^]'.
it then hangs at this point. Netscape also hangs
when I enter a URL. The message at the bottom shows;
Connect: Host www.his.com contacted. Waiting for reply...
it then never retrieves the web page. I can ping my ISP's
DNS server and ping my dialup host, but can't seem to
reach any telnet connections. Any ideas on what to try
would be appreciated.
--Greg
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism
Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 18:30:56 -0700
On Tue, 04 May 1999 17:37:28 -0700, Andrew Carol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> It's already displacing for-profit software.
>
>Yes it is. But that is not evidence that it will displace most/all
>for-profit software. There is no reason for us to argue. You and I
>don't control this, the people who decide which software they want to
>use do. You seem to confuse what you think would be best if happened
>with what is likely to happen.
Not in this instance. The pool of available liberated
source will only grow, not shrink. Human greed being
what it is will always encourage people to seek out
something for less or even something for nothing. The
apparent marginal worthlessness of software in general
will also aggravate this situation as will the current
vogue business model in proprietary software circles
of repeatedly 'asking' the consumer to buy the same
thing again.
Part of what propelled DOS will do the same for OSS.
[deletia]
--
Microsoft subjected the world to DOS until 1995. |||
A little spite is more than justified. / | \
In search of sane PPP Docs? Try http://penguin.lvcm.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ken Williams)
Subject: Star office on glibc 2.1?
Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 01:51:02 GMT
So what does one have to do to actually use Star Office on 2.1? If its not
possible, is there a mini-howto that explains in detail how to downgrade to
2.0.7? Can I run both? Why is this so difficult?
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From: jason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CLI app: *.jpg -> thumbnail-*.jpg
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 03:31:33 -0400
Beverley Eyre wrote:
>
> Can't you do this w/ xv? Just keep reducing the size and then save as a new file.
>
I thought the same thing (also gimp and zgv), but I noticed the subject read,
"CLI app", i.e. command-line interface app. I don't know of any off the top
of my head. Maybe 'man -k pnm' will turn up something useful?
-jason
(to reply via email, make the appropriate substitution in my email address)
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