Linux-Misc Digest #66, Volume #25 Fri, 7 Jul 00 14:13:03 EDT
Contents:
Re: Writing to CD-RW (Joachim Feise)
Re: NTP trouble... (Stuart Rauh)
Re: files I don't understand (Bill Hyden)
Re: Clearing MBR (Leonard Evens)
Re: Compiling individual kernel modules from the kernel source tree (Dave Brown)
Re: Need a small C program (mike burrell)
No software can bind to my host! Please help! (Steve)
Re: Who's got the Best Documentation? (Manfred Jainz)
Re: is there a port to windows media player? (Jaime Davila)
Re: why make clean before making kernel? ("Eric Potter")
Re: Getting Redhat on 12 MB ("Mark Langsdorf")
Re: -- MARK -- (Vilmos Soti)
Re: Uncompressing Linux...: crc error! (Dave Brown)
Re: Imteresting video mode - newbie question (David Efflandt)
sndconfig error (Bob Chapman)
Re: I want to give free web hosting and email (David Efflandt)
Re: kudzu,pcmcia and sound (David Efflandt)
Re: (JOB) Seeking Unix Engineers for Migration/Porting ("Andrew N. McGuire ")
X display garbled - SiS 5597/5598 - any fix? ([EMAIL PROTECTED] (Avinash
Chopde; ))
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From: Joachim Feise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Writing to CD-RW
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 09:09:40 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Is Linux capable of writing to rewritable CDs (CD-RW) ? I could only
> > > find tools for burning CD-R's.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Wroot
> > >
> > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > > Before you buy.
> >
> > You will be able to use them, as the other posters already mentioned,
> > but you cannot use the UDF filesystem yet as far as I know. So if you
> > don't care to make an iso9660 FS on the CD-RW's you're OK. There is
> read
> > support for the UDF filesystem, but for writing there's no support
> yet.
> >
> > Eric
> >
>
> Are you saying I can't do incremental writing to CD-RW? So whenever I
> want to add a file to my CD-RW, I will have to write the whole disk?
> iso9660 is the CD-R standard, isn't it?
Sure you can do incremental writing, i.e., multi-session. cdrecord
supports that just fine.
-Joe
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From: Stuart Rauh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: NTP trouble...
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 16:11:00 GMT
I ran "ntpq rv" and got the following:
status=c011 sync_alarm, sync_unspec, 1 event, event_restart
system="Linux", leap=11, stratum=16, rootdelay=0.00,
rootdispersion=0.00, peer=0, refid=0.0.0.0,
reftime=00000000.00000000 Thu, Feb 7 2036 0:28:16.000, poll=4,
clock=bd107d18.e7cce000 Fri, Jul 7 2000 11:00:24.905, phase=0.000,
freq=0.00, error=0.00
As you can see xntp is running but having troubles. My ntp.conf is as
follows...
server clock.psu.edu
Concerned about my IP masqerading led me to try an ntp client on a Win98
box connected through the Linux box in question to the net. Win98 syncs
to clock.psu.edu just fine! I think that says my masqerading setup is
ok???
I'm running user profiles through samba. I need to have the windows
machines on my internal network time sync to the Linux machine while the
Linux machine syncs to external time. As I understand it this is to
maintain the integrity of the user profiles. Syncing my internal
machines to Linux is working fine. The trouble is the time on all the
machines drifts because I can't get xntpd working properly on Linux!
I appreciate your help on this!!!
--
Stuart Rauh
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Bill Hyden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: files I don't understand
Date: 07 Jul 2000 11:27:37 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Hoffmann) writes:
> On Thu, 06 Jul 2000 02:01:03 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I'm using 'bash.' Every time I make a new file with 'emacs' a second
> >file appears with the same name, only with an extra character on the
> >end... '~' What are these files for, and why do they keep appearing?
> >EX: I make something called 'work' using emacs, and something pops up
> >called 'work~' after I'm done. Any clues?
>
> The files suffixed with the ~ are backup files. Files pre- and
> post-pended with # (i.e., #filename#) are autosave files.
Add the following to .emacs file to turn off this behaviour...
(set 'auto-save-default nil)
(set 'version-control 'never)
(set 'make-backup-files nil)
bill
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Clearing MBR
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 11:08:08 -0500
jkauffman wrote:
>
> I tried fdisk /mbr. I have a win98 machine that i connected
> the new hard drive to and used the fdisk program from win98
> on the new drive. This appeared to have no effect
> whatsoever. I do now though have a successful install of
> Mandrake 7.1 on the machine (still no NT). Is there a way of
> uninstalling linux, clearing the mbr and starting again from
> within linux?
>
> * Sent from AltaVista http://www.altavista.com Where you can also find related Web
>Pages, Images, Audios, Videos, News, and Shopping. Smart is Beautiful
When lilo is first run, it makes a copy of the MBR as it finds
it. It does not overwrite that copy on subsequent runs.
The command
/sbin/lilo -u
should restore the MBR. If for some reason that doesn't
work, or you want to completely blank the MBR and start all
over,
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1
should do it. Be careful when you use the dd command because
it can easily overwrite segments of the disk you don't want to
lose. But of course in this case, it wouldn't make much difference.
I usually make a copy of the MBR on a floppy disk whenever I
anticipate something out of the ordinary. This can be done under
Linux with
dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/fd0 bs=512 count=1
--
Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Subject: Re: Compiling individual kernel modules from the kernel source tree
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 7 Jul 2000 11:49:13 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Nicholas Murison wrote:
>Dances With Crows wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 06 Jul 2000 14:45:37 +0200, Nicholas Murison
>> <<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>> >Is there a way of compiling individual kernel modules from the kernel
>> >source tree (i.e. modules that are contained in linux-2.x.xx.tar.gz)
>> >without having to do make menuconfig ; make modules ; make
>> >modules-install? The reason I ask is I've compiled kernel 2.2.16 with
>> >...
>> How so? If you haven't done "make clean" between the first time you tried
>> this and this time, the "make modules" process will be very very fast as
>> only the module that you add will be compiled--the other modules have
>> already been compiled, so make will see that and not compile them again.
>> That's what make was designed to do, after all.
>
>So, make menuconfig - modularise the relevant driver - make modules -
>make modules-install should do it? I'll have a go :)
>...
But I thought you still had to re-compile the kernel, so it would have
the proper hooks for the module you're about to provide. I really
don't understand much about symbol-tables, etc.
For that matter, wouldn't you have to redo a "make dep" if you pick
a section of code (i.e., choose a module) which hadn't been selected
in the previous configuration.
It's been a long time since I read the kernel HOWTO, but I don't think
things like this are delved into. (Sorry about ending with a preposition.)
--
Dave Brown Austin, TX
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From: mike burrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need a small C program
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.networking
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 16:53:06 GMT
In comp.os.linux.help Timothy A. DeWees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > : In comp.os.linux.help Gerald J. Puhl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > : > I am in need of a C program Windows 95/NT4.0 that will simply open
>> > : > socket and connect to another machine on a port number.
> I dont thnk so. He needs a Windows program that will help him perform
> Linux tasks. This is a very common thing in the industry (writting bloated
> programs for a piss poor OS to help it interface with a superior OS)
opening a socket is not a "linux task" by any stretch of the imagination.
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From: Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: No software can bind to my host! Please help!
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 12:53:43 -0400
God I hope someone here can help as I'm at the end of my rope here.
Recently went back to using Redhat. Things were going fine, but now I have a
problem which I can't really explain. The error messages from Junkbuster
will
hopefully tip someone off so they can help.
/usr/sbin/junkbuster: can't bind 127.0.0.1:8000: Cannot assign requested
address
There may be another junkbuster or/usr/sbin/junkbuster:
There are no other proxies of any description running on port 8000. I
changed
ports and it still didn't work. 127.0.0.1 is most definitely setup as my
host
address. Also, Applixware Office and Nessus both fail too. I have a feeling
this is all connected but I am at a TOTAL loss as to what the problem is.
Please help me!
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From: Manfred Jainz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Who's got the Best Documentation?
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 18:49:58 +0200
scavenger wrote:
>
> Howdy. Who is the Linux Guru of the published world? I had seen some
> posts some time back about who's books to get for overall system setup
> etc, but I know I lost those references. What text's does everybody
> rely upon or suggest? Who's the Mark Minasi or David James Clark of
> the Linux world?
>
> thanks,
>
> scav
Although confined to Red Hat, I would recommend
Bob Rankin : The no B.S. Guide to Red Hat Linux.
Easy to read with a splendid overview.
It does not provide all details but has lots of hints where to look for
information when you do encounter problems.
Cheers,
Manfred Jainz.
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From: Jaime Davila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: is there a port to windows media player?
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 17:02:10 GMT
Lew Pitcher wrote:
>
> Short answer: No, there is no port of "Windows Media Player".
> Microsoft has not (and probably will not) port this commercial product
> to the Linux environment.
>
> However, there are Linux packages that provide similar or identical
> functionality. You have been referred to some of them.
>
>
??
That part of the thread I must have missed. By identical functionality,
do you mean "can handle streaming audio?" Certainly xmms can do it with
mp3, and real can do it with .ram's. But, do you mean 'can handle .asp
files? THAT would be news! :-)
--
******************************************************
Jaime J. Davila
Assistant Professor of Computer Science
School of Cognitive Science
Hampshire College
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://helios.hampshire.edu/jdavila
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From: "Eric Potter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: why make clean before making kernel?
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 17:07:47 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Lonni J. Friedman"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Its not standard procedure. Wherever did you read that you should use
> make clean? You *should* be using 'make mrproper' before 'make xconfig'
> which servers a similar purpose, only it clears out additional stuff.
>
Do not follow this advice. If you "make mrproper" you will lose your
.config file, which you will want as a starting point when you configure
the kernel again.
> root wrote:
>>
>> To build a new kernel I do something like this:
>>
>> make xconfig && make dep && make clean && make && make zImage && \ make
>> modules && make modules_install
>>
>> As far as I know this is standard procedure. But why the make clean?
>> Isn't that missing the whole point of makefiles?
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From: "Mark Langsdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Getting Redhat on 12 MB
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 12:06:10 -0500
"the fat heffer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> HI
> Does anyone know whether its possible to get redhat on to a 12mb disk
> I have heard you can recompile the kernal or something
The kernel is not the problem. The problem is glibc, which can be
upwards
of 10-15 megs all by itself.
Look for an embedded Linux distribution. Everyone and his brother is
releasing one these days. Lineo's Embedix is a good example - based on
Caldera OpenLinux 2.3. An absolute minimal configuration can be under
3 megs with Embedix.
-Mark Langsdorf
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Subject: Re: -- MARK --
From: Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 17:14:51 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>> What is the meaning of -- MARK -- in messages log?
>
> It's just put there by the syslog daemon to let you know it's still running
> when nothing else is being logged.
And is also a way to figure out if syslogd has been restarted.
Vilmos
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Subject: Re: Uncompressing Linux...: crc error!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 7 Jul 2000 12:16:16 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Fabian Gebhardt wrote:
>Vilmos Soti wrote:
>...
>No, I copyed it to /boot/vmlinuz.new and changed my lilo.conf to
>'image=/boot/vmlinuz.new'.
>The strangest thing is, that my old kernels still run without problems.
>
>>
>> in your lilo.conf. If you still get the same error then the newly
>> compiled kernel is broken and you might need to recompile her.
>
>I think I have to do this. :(
Can you do an fsck on the partition?
I just encountered the same problem. In my case, I booted up in a
"rescue mode" and did an fsck of the partition, and there were numerous
errors. (This machine recently acquired a new motherboard and 400 Mhz
CPU.) I reformatted the partition, restored from a backup, and everything
was hunky-dory... for a whole day. Next day, when I booted up, same
problem, and again, numerous errors when doing an fsck.
Meanwhile, I have another partition on the machine, with a different
distro installed in it, and it still seems rock-solid.
But I do suspect a hardware problem.
--
Dave Brown Austin, TX
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Imteresting video mode - newbie question
Date: 7 Jul 2000 17:18:02 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 6 Jul 2000 22:40:39 +0300, Justas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I've just finished with installation of RH 6.2, and I've found very
>interesting video mode.
>
>Viewing screen is moved to the right, monitor doesn't tell me about refresh
>rates in video mode it uses.
>
>Where can I fix this ?
Assuming you are talking about X, see 'man xvidtune' and find settings
that will center your screen if you don't have a monitor that can save
different settings for different modes. Then you plug those figures into
XF85Config.
If you are talking about the console, that is typically standard VGA
unless you are setting a different mode. For that you can set mode
settings similar to those used for XF86Config in /etc/vga/libvga.config.
--
David Efflandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.de-srv.com/
http://www.autox.chicago.il.us/ http://www.berniesfloral.net/
http://hammer.prohosting.com/~cgi-wiz/ http://cgi-help.virtualave.net/
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From: Bob Chapman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: sndconfig error
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 09:52:01 -0700
Hi,
I just bought Redhat 6.2 and did a clean install and all my hardware is
supported by the operating system.
But during automatic and manual sound configuration I get a message that
says, "The following error occurred running the ISAPNP program:
/etc/isapnp.conf: 203--Fatal -IO range check attempted while device
activated." This error shows up during the sound test and therefore, I
am
unable to configure the Yamaha OPL3-SAx sound card. Any suggestions
would help.
Thanks
Bob
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: Re: I want to give free web hosting and email
Date: 7 Jul 2000 17:35:18 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 6 Jul 2000 22:43:52 +0300, �enol Y�lmaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I haven't done it before. I want users to open their accounts on web, they
>will have an email like [EMAIL PROTECTED] and web page like user.website.com
>What shall I do for better performance. Somebody said PHP+MySql shall be
>used and somebody said it can be done with Perl. Anyway I will need help, I
>can pay you little but I'm not a rich man
>
>Any help, paid or free will be very appreciated.
>Thank you.
You can improve performance by having a fast network connection and plenty
of RAM. I don't see how PHP could possibly improve performance since it
adds overhead and uses resources, but I have never used it, so I don't
know if it is better than a combination of CGI and SSI. Someone I do work
for briefly had PHP on his server and it required files totalling 150 MB.
If you offer free webhosting, be ready to be swamped with requests for
websites. For example look at virtualave.net which has 402,964 member
sites climbing daily (on multiple boxes of course). They run Apache
(suexec) on FreeBSD. They don't do PHP and I doubt if they have MySql.
--
David Efflandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.de-srv.com/
http://www.autox.chicago.il.us/ http://www.berniesfloral.net/
http://hammer.prohosting.com/~cgi-wiz/ http://cgi-help.virtualave.net/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: kudzu,pcmcia and sound
Date: 7 Jul 2000 17:54:42 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 7 Jul 2000, Darren Christie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have Redhat 6.1 installed on a Toshiba Tecra 8100, however when
>booting kudzu has decided not to detect new hardware. After doing some
>digging around I found that hwconf was corrupted. So I copied this from
>an identical configured system. Rebooted and still the same results. So
>I am lost at what to do next to resolve this, so any suggestions would
>be greatly received.
What kind of hardware are you adding inside of a laptop? Kudzu is not
going to pay any attention to pcmcia. I doubt if it would pay attention
to USB, but I don't have any USB devices. Normal drives are automatically
recognized by the kernel when you boot, but I don't know about hot
swappable drives.
>The other problem I have is configuring sound on the above laptop,
>I managed to get sound to work using alsa 0.5.8, and promptly on
>rebooting to test, pcmcia wouldn't start up, but I had sound.
>Now for some reason pcmcia is back, but now sound won't work! I get
>that the device is busy. I thought it might be a conflict between pcmcia
>and the sound hardware (ymfpci) but I can use both together no problem
>under Windoze98. So please could you help on this as well?
You might want to get alsa 0.5.8b or latest version because ymfpci has
been updated since the initial 0.5.8 came out. The only problem I had
with 0.5.8b is that playmidi does not work, but I do not know if I need
some sort of alias in /etc/conf.modules to tell it to use opl3 for that.
Also if you have not updated pcmcia-cs from the version that come with
your Linux, you may want to. The versions that came with RH 6.1 and
Mandrake 7.0 would not properly set a modem irq.
I did notice that when I had my laptop (Sony F450) set up with the Alsa
driver, that pcmcia would only double beep for cards that were in during
boot. If I added or ejected a card after that, there was no beep, but the
card still worked.
Everything works fine (and somewhat simpler) with the opensound.com
drivers (with Yamaha YMF option) that I got before Alsa had ymfpci.
>If you could copy answers to my e-mail, as the work newsgroup feed only
>picks up once a day.
>
>Thanks
>
>Darren
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http://www.autox.chicago.il.us/ http://www.berniesfloral.net/
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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.solaris,comp.sys.hp.hpux,comp.sys.dec
From: "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: (JOB) Seeking Unix Engineers for Migration/Porting
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 12:53:05 -0500
On 7 Jul 2000, Michael Kraemer quoth:
[] In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Andrew
N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[] > On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Kevin Galloway quoth:
[] >
[] > [] Unix Engineers
[] > [] ============
[] > [] We have a need for high grade Unix people with 5+ years C/C++ programming
[] > [] experience under AIX, Solaris, HP-UX, Tru64 or Linux.
[] >
[] > First, 'UNIX' ne 'Linux'.
[]
[] Huh ? IMHO Linux is just another flavor of UNIX.
And you certainly are entitled to your opinion.. However although
Linux is UNIX-like, there are some major differences.
[] The only difference I see is that it still lags behind the "commercial" versions
[] in certain areas ( JFS, LVM, smit, HACMP, ... ).
These are all being actively worked on to my knowledge.
anm
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Subject: X display garbled - SiS 5597/5598 - any fix?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Avinash Chopde; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Avinash Chopde)
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 18:05:21 GMT
I have a PC with onboard SiS display - using the 5597/5598 chips.
According to Xfree86 3.3.6 documentation, this chips is supported
by that release, but when I try anything, I get a screen with some
graphics looking correct, but text is all sold black rectangles.
The mouse also does not work - could not even make gpm work in
linux shell mode.
Before I give up on this and wipe out my Linux partitions and
give them back to Windows - does anyone have anything else I can try?
The mouse and display (in 16bit color, 1024x768 mode) does work
in Windows 98, so it must just be a matter of driver support or absence
of driver support in Linux...?
--
Avinash Chopde
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
home page: http://www.aczone.com/
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