Linux-Misc Digest #72, Volume #20                 Wed, 5 May 99 15:13:08 EDT

Contents:
  Re: How to switch VTs wben X is running? (Przem Kowalczyk)
  Re: ess sound card (Przem Kowalczyk)
  Re: Red Hat Linux - can't login. Pls HELP!! (Dinesh Nair)
  Re: MS Exchange and Linux (Jeff Koch)
  Re: Red Hat Linux - can't login. Pls HELP!! (Shellfer)
  Re: The Best Linux distribution? (was Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux) (david parsons)
  I'd like to run another x-windows on F8. (behapy)
  PPP Dial on Demand Query ("jas.")
  Re: Colors ("brian l")
  Re: How to switch VTs wben X is running? (Mark Tranchant)
  Re: GNU reeks of Communism (Andrew Carol)
  Re: Tape backups w/ SCSI inteface in Linux (Markus Wandel)
  Re: Linux damaging hardware through kernel patch???? (Lew Pitcher)
  Re: glibc 2.1 + downgrade + staroffice (Mark Shinwell)
  Re: GNU reeks of Communism (Marco Anglesio)
  RH5.2, kernel 2.0.36 : network printing problems ("Sunil P. Khatri")
  3c905b-tx fast etherlink xl pci ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  suse linux 6.1? (out but not out?) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: The Best Linux distribution? (was Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux) (Leslie Mikesell)
  Re: line filter utility? (Edward Vigmond)
  Re: CD-R as backup device ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: viewing Linux Xserver Xfree86 on NT ? (Charles Mulks)
  Re: GNU reeks of Communism (Andrew Carol)
  Re: Linux to HP connectivity question (Jeff Koch)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Przem Kowalczyk)
Subject: Re: How to switch VTs wben X is running?
Date: 5 May 1999 10:39:26 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Przem Kowalczyk in comp.os.linux.misc wrote:
>Mars in comp.os.linux.misc wrote:
>>It fails to switch back to X.
>
>It  means  you  have  no  VT  running.  To  correct  this you should change
>/etc/inittab:
>
>------------ a pice of inittab --------------
># Run gettys in standard runlevels
>1:12345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty1
>2:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty2
>3:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty3
>4:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty4
>5:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty5
>6:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty6
>---------------------------------------------
>
>The second filed indicates in which runlevels should each VT run. Xdm (Kdm)
>usually runs in 5. So you have to add 5 to each line (as showed above).
>
>You can edit it from X and then type (in xterminal) 'init q' it orders init
>to reread it's configuration.
>

Sorry, I haven't read your post carefully enought. I though you can't swich
to normal VT.

Przem


-- 
I didn't wear glasses cause I thought it might rain.
now I can't see anything.
                                                        R.E.M

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Przem Kowalczyk)
Subject: Re: ess sound card
Date: 5 May 1999 11:01:04 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

John Garrison in comp.os.linux.misc wrote:
>I have an ess 1868 audiodrive.  I have used sndconfig to set it up
>properly, but sound does still not work.  (it does work for CD audio
>though, just not in programs)
>Any suggestions?  This card appears to be supported by Linux, am I doing
>something wrong?

In  fact you haven't wrote what you're doing. The best solution is to do it
manully, with modprobe. Try:

#modprobe sound io=0x220 irq=5 dma=1 dma2=5        
(use your values)
And check the output. If it says wrong io, dma, or irq simply change it and
try once more.

You  can  also  use  ALSA  sound  driver  ( http://alsa.jcu.cz ), which has
dedicated modules to your sound card. (snd-es18xx)

Przem

-- 
The information nation took their clues from all the sound-bite gluttons.
                                                        R.E.M

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From: Dinesh Nair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,alt.os.linux,jaring.os.linux
Subject: Re: Red Hat Linux - can't login. Pls HELP!!
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 00:25:29 +0800

Shellfer wrote:
> Yes I can. But I don't know what to do after that! It said something
> like the new password is ok. And it just stays there, like waiting for

hit ctrl-D to log out of single user mode or just reboot. 

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From: Jeff Koch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MS Exchange and Linux
Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 13:54:31 GMT



>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

On 5/4/99, 4:14:23 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy J.=20
Lee) wrote regarding Re: MS Exchange and Linux:


> Jeff Koch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> |Does anyone know if someone is working on a Linux client for MS=3D20
> |Exchange? My company is going to Exchange in the near future and I=3D=
20
> |would really like to divorce myself permanently from Windows...

> Mention to them (especially accounting) that Microsoft Exchange
> is a much more expensive mail server than Linux/BSD/whatever with
> sendmail/qmail/postfix/whatever and IMAP/POP.

> If they are really intent on wasting money on Microsoft Exchange
> for mail, then at least get them to turn on IMAP and POP so you
> can get at the mail there with any IMAP or POP client like
> pine, xfmail, or Netscape Communicator.

I tried that approach, presenting the case that an IMAP/LDAP solution=20
would be much cheaper and wouldn't tie the user to any particular=20
email client. Unfortunately, people tend to stick within their comfort=20
zone, and since most of our IT department has little to no experince=20
with Linux/UNIX....

I was just hoping that someone had written, or was working on, a=20
program that could talk to Exchange in it's native format. After all,=20
the growth of the WINE project suggests someone could write the MAPI=20
equivalent for Linux...now if only I could trade in my years in=20
networking for programming experience.







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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shellfer)
Crossposted-To: alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,alt.os.linux,jaring.os.linux
Subject: Re: Red Hat Linux - can't login. Pls HELP!!
Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 14:39:33 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

>Hamka Hj Suleiman wrote:
>> best advice just install it back again and when it says install or
>> upgrade choose upgrade...  should be quite fast...  hope this helps.
>
>could you just boot single user and change the password with the passwd
>command ?

Yes I can. But I don't know what to do after that! It said something
like the new password is ok. And it just stays there, like waiting for
me to enter a command or something. Anyway I just rebooted, (pressed
CTRL-ALT-DEL) then at the login I typed "root" again, then the new
password, but still can't work! :(

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From: o r c @ p e l l . p o r t l a n d . o r . u s  (david parsons)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: The Best Linux distribution? (was Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux)
Date: 5 May 1999 10:19:27 -0700

In article <7gov4f$b3$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>  Ken Deboy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>  Wah wah wah... and FreeBSD doesn't install everything I want by
>> default either... and when I do get it to install what I want, it
>> insists on doing stupid things like installing not putting bash
>> in /usr/bin but instead insisting on /usr/local/bin...
>
>"Stupid things"?  Like installing software where it wants to be installed? 
>It's not FreeBSD that puts bash and perl [I bet that one gets you, too, huh?]
>into /usr/local/bin, it's the developers themselves.  Read the INSTALL file
>in the bash2.02 tarball straight from the FSF: -- By default, `make install'
>will install into `/usr/local/bin', `/usr/local/man', etc.  You can specify
>an installation prefix other than `/usr/local' by giving `configure' the
>option `--prefix=PATH'. --
>
>The fact that Linux installs everything in the world into /usr/bin is just
>plain _wrong_.

     No it isn't;  it's following the logic that if the software ships
     with the system it goes into /usr/bin, leaving /usr/local for,
     umm, locally installed software.

>When Linux installs do that, they are ignoring the defaults
>set down by the developers of those applications.

     Which asssume that they're being dumped onto a pre-existing Unix
     system instead of being built as part of the distribution.  Now, it
     might just be me, but an application that REQUIRES that it go into
     /usr/local/bin instead of letting me install it in /usr/bin, /opt,
     or /var/spool/mqueue (as my whimsy may take me) is simply broken,
     as is an operating system that has similar requirements.

>Want to talk about an OS that does "stupid" things by default?  Some
>distributions of Linux come with the Berkeley Packet Filter turned on by
>default.

     And some don't.  And some _don't even have the bpf_.   What's your
     point?  That tape recorders should be sold with the microphone
     disabled because they might be able to be used illegally?


     Look, there are many MANY things wrong in the Linux world, from a
     naive belief that stable interfaces really don't matter to the
     traditional Unix belief that if things were easy they wouldn't be
     real Unix.   The fact that, quelle horror, Linux isn't FreeBSD
     is NOT one of the things that's wrong with it.

                   ____
     david parsons \bi/ Sheesh.  You're giving c.u.b.f.m the charm and appeal
                    \/                           of c.o.l.a on a slashdot day.

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From: behapy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: I'd like to run another x-windows on F8.
Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 23:39:03 +0900

Hi,

I useually login by init5 runlevel.  So kde starts automatical at F7 by
user behapy.  And I'd like to startx at F3 by user guest.  Pushing
ctrl+alt+F3, login by guest.  and startx could not be run.  I have heard
about the command like this "startx --0:1", but I'm not sure.  And it
does not work.  How do I make this work?

thanks all
Jingun


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From: "jas." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PPP Dial on Demand Query
Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 22:05:42 +0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Howdy,

I'm running PPP 2.3.7 with the DEMAND and HOLDOFF options set.

I have HOLDOFF set to 600 seconds but the system redials before 600
seconds expires.

Is this a bug or am I missing something.

jas

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From: "brian l" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Colors
Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 15:52:43 +0100


D. Vrabel wrote in message ...
>Hello,
>
>> I was just wondering if one could change the bpp depth from within X and
if
>> so, how?
>You can't while X is running.  You can only change color depth on starting
X.

** This isn't true.  If you configure X to use several different resolutions
and bpp settings (in the XFree86 config file - use a configuration program)
you can then cycle through them by pressing Ctrl-Alt-+
So there. :-p


You can however start two X servers (each one on a different VT) with
>different color depths.
>
>David
>--
>David Vrabel
>Engineering Undergraduate at University of Cambridge, UK.
>



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From: Mark Tranchant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to switch VTs wben X is running?
Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 15:35:40 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> >>It fails to switch back to X.

OK - X "takes over" a virtual console, usually the next available one.
If, on boot, you get console mode and have to start X, the usual
situation is that you have VTs on F1 to F6, and X runs on F7 once you
start it. Use Ctrl-Alt-Fn to jump between them (or just Alt-Fn when in
console mode).

If you still can't find X, what happens? Black screen? Login prompt?

Mark.

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From: Andrew Carol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism
Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 08:00:49 -0700

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Michael Powe
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> >>>>> "Andrew" == Andrew Carol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>     Andrew> I don't see us going to dongles so much as Intel
>     Andrew> developing a hardware "uber dongle" which will live on the
>     Andrew> PC board or even in the CPU.  It would hold licence
>     Andrew> information etc.
> 
> Don't buy Intel.

Of course.

But most people won't care, and AMD might have to come on board if the
word gets out that their CPU's won't be able to run the next generation
of software.  Which CPU vender would not join the effort so that they
can share the pie?

--- Andrew

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Markus Wandel)
Subject: Re: Tape backups w/ SCSI inteface in Linux
Date: 5 May 1999 15:04:27 GMT

In article <7gphib$feb$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I've been looking for a stutable 10gb+ backup solution for
>usage on a Linux box. I've come across several Tape/DAT
>backups that use the SCSI inteface.
>
>I wasn't even aware that SCSI could be used for streaming media.
>
>My question is; will these backups typically work in Linux?
>I.e., can I use tar paramters > /dev/sdXXX?

Who ever told you that SCSI can't be used for streaming media?
Sheesh, this PC world is strange.

A streaming medium merely demands that you feed it data at a 
constant rate.  Old-fashioned tape drives wrote blocks with gaps
inbetween and could fully stop and re-accelerate the tape in the
space of such a gap.  So you could read or write a block whenever
you felt like it.

Modern tape drives are optimized for continuous transfer.  When
there is a gap in the continuous transfer they either have to 
brake, backspace, and accelerate back to speed to continue, or
(when writing) perhaps write an inefficiently large gap on the
tape.

A tape drive has a certain amount of internal buffering so if it
needs, for example, 250 kilobytes/sec you can feed it in short
bursts at 2M bytes/sec and do something else between them, as long
as the buffer never underflows you're OK.

A plain old SCSI-1 asynchronous SCSI bus (the simplest kind there
is) can move data at 2M bytes/sec which is plenty fast for any tape
drive I'm aware of.  More over it supports disconnect and reconnect,
so you can tell the tape drive "write 100M bytes all in one go" and
it will call you back when it needs data, meanwhile the bus is
available for other stuff, e.g. fetching the data from a disk.
It works great.  Watch the SCSI bus activity LED on an Adaptec 154x
or on the tape drive, if it has one, to see this in action.

SCSI is _the_ interface for tape.  Everything else is a kludge.
ATAPI is just pseudo-SCSI done over the EIDE connectors in order
to save the cost of a connector.  Yes, a connector, that's the most
expensive part nowadays.  If someone is telling you that SCSI is 
not as good as whatever other protocol for streaming tape, they
are trying to sell you something.  But the PC world is full of
weirdness, perhaps there is a bad SCSI host adapter in common use
that really doesn't work well with streaming tape.

My Adaptec 1540CF works just fine with an Archive Python DDS1-DC 
(compressing DAT) and an Exabyte 8500 (non-compressing 8mm) tape
drive.  This includes writing highly compressable data on the 
DAT where _far_ more data needs to be transferred on the SCSI bus
than actually ends up on tape.  It still streams.

What doesn't stream, for some bizarre reason, is a QIC-150 tape
drive.  Endless backspaces.  But it's so obsolete I only use it 
once in a blue moon to read "legacy data" anyway.

Markus


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lew Pitcher)
Subject: Re: Linux damaging hardware through kernel patch????
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 17:26:06 GMT

Further addendum.....

On Mon, 03 May 1999 23:19:25 +0200, Shaun Schembri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
>--------------77BEBF54C6830FDD873CCCEF
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
[lotsa erronious stuff snipped]
>I am a computer technician with quite some years of experience and I am
>not new to software development but I cannot figure out any method that
>can be used to induce RF in almost purely digital hardware through a
>software algorithm.  Here are my questions....
[shaun's questions snipped]

Actually, this isn't too farfetched. 
Does anyone remember the PC Jr. ?

There was a question posed to Steve Ciacarda in Byte Magazine early after
the PC Jr. hit the stores. It seems that someone purchased a PC Jr. (which
was *supposed* to be a PC to challange the Apple (II, I believe)), and ran
a PC DOS game on it. At some point during the game, his monitor blew out,
with a dime-sized hole in the screen. The question to Steve C. was what
could have caused the problem.

Steve's answer was that the PC's video controller chip could be programmed
for a range of brightnesses, with values ranging in the high end of the
scale. However, the PC Jr.'s video controller chip would provide the same
brightness with a much lower programmed value. It was dangerous to program
the PC Jr.'s video controller using values normally used on the PC, and the
game (having programmed the video controller as if it were a PC), caused the
video circuitry to generate an over-voltage on the electron gun of the monitor.
The electron gun either scanned a weak spot in the tube, or was focussed on a
single spot for too long, and the heightened voltage on the electron stream
turned the electron gun into a *real* electron gun, burning a hole in the screen.

The PC Jr. came with copious warnings not to run PC games on it, and the speculation
at the time was that this video controller incompatability was a factor in this
warning.

Imagine if I fed the video controller chip selected values for brightness at selected
itervals (say, at the end of every scan line). I could cause some amount of EM flux
which (if varied correctly) would cause RF inteference. The only farfetched part of
my facetious post was that this RF inteference would be powerfull enough to cause
a short in some other component.




Lew Pitcher
System Consultant, Integration Solutions Architecture
Toronto Dominion Bank

([EMAIL PROTECTED])


(Opinions expressed are my own, not my employer's.)

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From: Mark Shinwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: glibc 2.1 + downgrade + staroffice
Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 19:21:05 +0100

Jeremy Weinberger wrote:
> 
> Does anybody know what is going on with glibc 2.1?

Good question.  In my opinion the authors need to adopt some decent
engineering practice and produce some software which doesn't exhibit
"political difficulties" as described on the FTP site, and which is
fully backwards compatible.  There is no excuse for the system C
library.

> 
> Can somebody please provide some advice on the appropriate method for
> downgrading to glibc 2.0? Is it as simple as rebuilding libc-2.0.so and
> relinking libc.so.6 to it? Is there anything that actually requires 2.1
> or runs better using the newer library? Why in the heck isn't it
> completely backwards-compatible? Because I can boot and run all my other
> software, I'm assuming that other things linked against glibc 2.0 were
> not broken. What's different about staroffice that it breaks?

Goodness knows; it could be a reliance on an internal library call/piece
of data which it shouldn't be using (and which shouldn't be of public
visibility anyway, but that's another matter...), or maybe it is that
the semantics of a particular library call have changed.  Which they
shouldn't have.

If anyone does find out how to get things going with glibc 2.1 I would
also be interested to hear!

-- 

==================================================================
Mark Shinwell            Queens' College, Cambridge University, UK
Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]             WWW: http://mrs30.quns.cam.ac.uk
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco Anglesio)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 15:24:14 GMT

On Wed, 05 May 1999 08:12:15 -0700, Andrew Carol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Perhaps MS might just pay the "development" costs of such a system to
>the CPU manufactures.  No other hardware companies would have to play. 
>If you bought a CPU from Intel or AMD you are already opted in.

Would Intel or AMD buy into a hardware-software encryption scheme that
they can just as easily be driven out of? Consider whether it is to their
benefit to implement encryption in hardware; I don't think that they'd be
terribly fond of the idea with such a large potential downside without
some very significant guarantees and concessions.

Furthermore, would the US Department of Justice, already at the end of the
rope with MS, look kindly upon such a thing? I would think that as soon as
the plan became feasible there would be a court case seeking an injunction
to prevent it.

marco

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From: "Sunil P. Khatri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: RH5.2, kernel 2.0.36 : network printing problems
Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 15:32:15 GMT

I am running RH5.2 and a 2.0.36 kernel on a Thinkpad 770X. The machine
is networked using a 3Com 3c589D ethernet card.
 
After I boot the machine and try to print to my networked printer, I
get the message
 
   lpr: connect: No such file or directory
   jobs queued, but cannot start daemon.
 
Now, if I run "lpc restart all" as root, I get the message
 
   lps20b:
         no daemon to abort
   lps20b:
   lpc: connect: No such file or directory
         couldn't start daemon
 
But if I re-run "lpc restart all" as root, I then get:
 
   lps20b:
         no daemon to abort
   lps20b:
         daemon started

Now the queued job prints, and subsequent print jobs proceed without
any error messages.
 
Any idea how I can avoid running "lpc restart all" twice manually?

Thanks in advance,
Sunil

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: 3c905b-tx fast etherlink xl pci
Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 17:31:27 GMT

has anyone out there got this board to work with slackware 3.5?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: suse linux 6.1? (out but not out?)
Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 14:41:27 GMT

 Hi, i was just wondering if anyone knew where i can d/l suse 6.1.  I was
told it came out the 3rd but i can't seem to find it, am i missing something
or just being too impatient? (the later would not be unlike me).  thank you.


                                       -Gaiko

Gaikokujin Kyofusho
Student Extraordinare & UN*X Guru Wannbe

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: The Best Linux distribution? (was Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux)
Date: 5 May 1999 12:36:09 -0500

In article <7gov4f$b3$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>The fact that Linux installs everything in the world into /usr/bin is just
>plain _wrong_. When Linux installs do that, they are ignoring the defaults
>set down by the developers of those applications.  Is it really that
>troublesome to have to type "make --prefix=/usr/bin install" rather than
>"make install"?

The scheme isn't wrong, it is just different.  Linux distributions
put things that are part of the distribution into /usr/bin.  You
put things you add yourself into /usr/local/bin (or wherever you
like).  It isn't horrible once you understand that you can have
'your' version and the stock version at the same time without
much pain.
>
>Notice the part about _legal_ _consequences_?  Having a BPF enabled on a box
>sitting on a cable modem (or other shared line, such as some college dorm
>LANs) is the legal equivalent of putting a wiretap on your neighbor's phone.
 
No, it is equivalent to having a wire-punchdown tool in your toolbox.
Having the BPF enabled doesn't mean you have put the card in promiscuous
mode or have anything listening on it.

  Les Mikesell
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Edward Vigmond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: line filter utility?
Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 15:39:46 GMT

Ron Bergeron wrote:
> 
> How about:
> 
> head -10 filename | tail -8

or

tail +3 filename | head -8 

-- 
Ed Vigmond
Institut de Genie Biomedical, Universite de Montreal
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: CD-R as backup device
Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 18:05:58 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,  I wrote:
>In article <7gnpnt$ba$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Does anyone know how to use a CD-R drive as a backup device
   ...<snip>...
>I'll put all the stuff I want to backup.  Then I'll create an image
>with mkisofs:
>
>mkisofs -R -o iso.raw first_dir  /* This is for the 1st write to a CD */
>
>/* Below is for later writes, the 'multi' in 'multi-session' */
>mkisofs -o iso.raw -R  -C `cdrecord -msinfo dev=6,0` -M /dev/scd0  first_dir
>
        I forgot to mention that mkisofs loses files with tildes '~' in
the names.  This isn't usually a problem for me because what I have in
first_dir for backups are files with names like xxx.tgz.
        Also, supposedly you can write straight to the recorder without
creating an intermediate iso.raw file system.  It seems that for the teac
this doesn't work because it needs to know the size of the file in advance.
My copy of the cdrecord manual says you can find this out with a -print-size
option, but my version of cdrecord doesn't recognize that option so I'm
left with creating the intermediate files (called iso.raw in my example.)
        I saw some message somewhere about the CD record documentation being
about to be rewritten.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charles Mulks)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: viewing Linux Xserver Xfree86 on NT ?
Date: 5 May 1999 15:36:01 GMT

In article <7gn0k6$cg6$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>
>Use Xwin32

yup

check out http://www.msu.edu/~mulksc/LinuxHints/win95xserv.html

>
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Matt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Is it possible to view Linux Xwindows on a NT box. using an equiv app
>> to Hummingbirds Exceed but for free. Maybe SuperX.
>> 
>> Linux box arch = Martox Mill G200 Video Card using SuSE.
>> NT box = Savage 3D Video Card.
>> 
>> Connection via DEC Ethernet card 10/100
>> 
>> Many thanks
>> 
>> Matt
>
>
>
>


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From: Andrew Carol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism
Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 08:03:41 -0700

In article <7gono6$hso$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Scott MacDonald
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Andrew Carol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...

> > 3 - CPU provides ID of CPU to vender.
> 
> Give vender $20 bucks for that very same ID.  The code is broken.

Why?  First the ID of the CPU could even be public knowledge.  The
problem is that you also need to know the private key which matches
that public ID.  My ID will do _your_ CPU no good.

Intel will return a 'key' which is encrypted with the CPU's public key. 
Only that CPU can decode it and use it.

--- Andrew

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From: Jeff Koch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux to HP connectivity question
Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 18:58:27 GMT



>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

On 5/5/99, 1:46:59 PM, Bob Hauck <b o b h @ w a s a t c h . c o m> wrote=
=20
regarding Re: Linux to HP connectivity question:


> Jeff Koch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > Currently, I'm using "Reflections for HP with NS/VT" on my Windows
> > box to connect to our HP to access inventory/sales and other
> > information. Does anyone know of a way to emulate HP's terminal so I=

> > can access it from Linux?

> Have you tried telnet?  Last I used Reflections it was just a telnet
> with extra terminal emulations.  Unless your app uses special keys=20
that
> are only on the HP terminal you should be fine.

The Reflections program is actually connecting through something=20
called VT-MGR, so telnet is immediately rejected.

> --
>  12:45:01 up 71 days,  2:06,  2 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.02, 0.00=





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