Linux-Misc Digest #90, Volume #20 Thu, 6 May 99 23:13:13 EDT
Contents:
Re: Installing KDE - newbie ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (Kenneth P. Turvey)
Re: Help ISDN HISAX 16.3c install (Hans Dumbrajs)
Re: How to filter the list of the files by permissions? (Bill Unruh)
Re: Majordomo (FUJITA Yasushi)
How to install linux on large drives (Michael Wolf)
Re: mdrecoveryd ?? (nomad)
Re: Is Unix a single user operating system? (Kenneth P. Turvey)
Sound and Modem not working after upgrading to RH 6.0 ("Jeff Hudson")
Forum Package for Web Site ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Is Unix a single user operating system? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Compiling ("rob")
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (Andrew Carol)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Installing KDE - newbie
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 21:50:23 GMT
I might be completely misunderstanding what you are asking but I think what
you are trying to do is set up KDE as the default X GUI for your users. If
so it's dead easy.
cd /opt/kde/bin Then run a script called usekde followed by the username. So
for example if you want user Fred to use KDE you type:
usekde Fred
Hope this helps!!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stephen Drumm) wrote:
> "Judy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >I've spent the week-end installing RedHat 5.2 and getting X it to work with
> >my bro's dumb ATI Fury card (yes!!! it works!!) I'm currently trying to
> >install KDE, but I can't get through the *required* QT installation step.
> >I'm stuck where the INSTALL file says to :
> >
> >"Set some environment variables in the file .profile (or .login, depending
> >on your shell) in your home directory."
> >
> >Right, so what are these files? which one do I make (.profile or .login)?
> >and where do I place them? Should I log on as root, or another user?
>
> I recently went through the procedure that you are following.
> Environment variables are variables you can set up within your "shell"
> which is the command prompt environment when you log in. There are
> a variety of shells you can choose, to find out which one you are
> currently using, enter
>
> $ more /etc/passwd
>
> You will see a list of users, with the last column showing which shell
> each runs at login, e.g. /bin/csh is the "c-shell". I think on my Red
> Hat system the default shell was bash.
>
> Once you know the shell you are using you can read more about
> it (and a .profile file to declare environment variables) by
>
> $ man bash
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenneth P. Turvey)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism
Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 18:24:13 -0500
On Thu, 6 May 1999 19:29:00 GMT, PILCH Hartmut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>It would no longer cost $500 but $5, because there would be no piracy and
>not even a retail store, just paying e-cash while downloading.
Piracy has little or no effect on price despite what the MS propaganda
says. The people that pay will, for the most part, pay if the price is
doubled or halved. The people that don't, won't if the price is doubled
or halved.
This is a slight over simplification, but for the most part true.
Pricing is based on what the market will bear and this cannot
significantly change as long as there is a single source for most of the
software required by business.
>The reason software prices are high now is that it is sold only in a very
>few places where copyright can be enforced. If copyright was abolished and
Most people who pirate software would never buy it. They would simply
make due with lower quality software.
>instead a perfect CPU encryption scheme used, as suggested here, this
>condition would no longer be true, and binary software could only become
>cheaper than books. Remember: those books that are bought only by a few
>unfortunate libraries cost hundreds of dollars per copy.
--
Kenneth P. Turvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
One of the advantages of being disorderly is that one is constantly
making exciting discoveries.
-- A. A. Milne
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From: Hans Dumbrajs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Help ISDN HISAX 16.3c install
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 18:41:07 +0300
Csejtey Gabor Zoltan wrote:
> I use Debian 2.1. I would like to install
> an ISDN HIsax 16.3c card with ISA slot into a 486 machine.
> I used the following command:
>
> depmod type=14 protocol=2 irq=10 io=0x580 id=teles
>
> I got this message:
>
> Teles 16.3c: IRQ(10) getting no interrupts during init 1
> Teles 16.3c: IRQ(10) getting no interrupts during init 2
> Teles 16.3c: IRQ(10) getting no interrupts during init 3
> HiSax: Card Teles 16.3c not installed !
>
> ISDN unloaded
>
> Any help?
>
> Gabor Csejtey
check www.isdn4linux.de and subscribe to their mailing list.. The list
is pretty good, and they usually help out if something doesn't work.
The list is in german, but english questions and disscussion are
welcome..
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: How to filter the list of the files by permissions?
Date: 7 May 1999 01:58:45 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sergei Gnezdov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>If I want to see the list of the files which has some permissions, how
>can I do this?
>Let's say: I want to see only the files, which have write permission for
>the owner. Other permissions do not matter.
man find
find / -perm +200 -ls
will give what you asked for. (write permission for owner and other
stuff irrelevant).
-perm +n => n AND permission not equal zero
-perm n => permission = n
-perm -n => permission bits AND n = n
AND is the bit wise and.
(The above are for the Linux find. Solaris, Sun, etc may have a slighlty
different form)
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From: FUJITA Yasushi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 5col.comp.linux
Subject: Re: Majordomo
Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 10:42:06 +0900
Hi,
FML is an easy-configurable, rich-featured list server system.
It's the complete alternative for Majordomo.
See the URL http://www.sapporo.iij.ad.jp/staff/fukachan/fml/index-e.html
"Wm. Josiah Erikson" wrote:
>
> Is Majordomo available for Linux? Any pointers if I want to run a small
> list server on my Linux box?
> Please cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Thanks much,
> Josiah
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From: Michael Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How to install linux on large drives
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 20:56:57 -0500
I just bought a PC with a 9G drive and the first thing I tried to do was
install Linux (isn't that what everyone does?).
I defragged the C: drive, got a newer version of fips so it could handle
FAT32 drives, then partitioned the drive into 2, the first with 6G and
then next with 3G (the 3G is where I want Linux to go to).
I deleted the 2nd partition with DOS fdisk.
I rebooted with my RedHat CD to install Linux 2.0.32.
I went into the partition editor, added one primary partition, as number
2, for swap (64M) and one primary partition, as number 3, for Linux
(the remainder of the space.
Here is the problem. The fdisk with my RedHat distribution (RedHat
Linux Unleashed by SAMS verion 1.0) said the first available cylinder
was 964 and the highest was 1024.
After giving 64M to swap, this left only 390M.
I am assuming the fdisk with my distribution just can't handle drives
with more than 1024 cylinders.
Is there a version of Linux fdisk that doesn't have this problem and if
so, how can I install from the CD and use the newer version of fdisk?
Or is it that I will have to go out and get a newer RedHat distribution?
Just for information, my plan was to give winows 6G and Linux 3G,
putting Linux at the end fo the drive. This way I could shrink the
windows partition later and add another primary partition for Linux
without having gaps or having more than one windows partition.
All help is appreciated.
Thanks!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (nomad)
Subject: Re: mdrecoveryd ??
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 01:15:52 GMT
Never mind, got it.. : )
Gerard
On Fri, 07 May 1999 00:02:08 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Does anyone know what 'mdrecoveryd' is? I've been running searches on the web
>through different search engines, at teh redhat site, etc and I can't find
>anything on it.
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenneth P. Turvey)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Is Unix a single user operating system?
Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 19:18:47 -0500
On 06 May 1999 13:42:35 +0200, Rolf Marvin B�e Lindgren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>all of this convinced me that an operating system that does not support
>an OPERATOR concept is fundamentally single-user. there muse be a user
>midway between user and root.
Unix has other problems as well. The scheduler should really divide up
the cpu time between users instead of between processes.
Your concerns can be fixed with the use of an application like sudo or
super. It is a kludge, I agree.
The scheduler is a bit more difficult.
--
Kenneth P. Turvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Anyone who challenges the prevailing orthodoxy finds himself silenced
with surprising effectiveness. A genuinely unfashionable opinion is
almost never given a fair hearing. -- George Orwell
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From: "Jeff Hudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Sound and Modem not working after upgrading to RH 6.0
Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 16:22:50 -0500
I have recently upgradded to 6.0 After this upgrade my sound card and
modem stopped working. Also some funking things were showing up at boot
time as fail. I have included my Dmesg and most recent part of boot.log
below. They are giving me some errors but I don't know how to fix them.
They are both still working fine in Win98. Would appreciate any ideas on the
matter
**************This is my Dmesg file from /var/log******************
Linux version 2.2.5-15 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version
egcs-2.91.66 19990314/Linux (egcs-1.1.2 release)) #1 Mon Apr 19 22:21:09 EDT
1999
Console: colour VGA+ 80x25
Calibrating delay loop... 149.50 BogoMIPS
Memory: 30668k/32768k available (996k kernel code, 412k reserved, 632k data,
60k init)
Checking if this processor honours the WP bit even in supervisor mode... Ok.
VFS: Diskquotas version dquot_6.4.0 initialized
CPU: Cyrix 6x86L 2x Core/Bus Clock stepping 02
Checking 386/387 coupling... OK, FPU using exception 16 error reporting.
Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfb0e0
PCI: Using configuration type 1
PCI: Probing PCI hardware
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2
Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0 for Linux NET4.0.
NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP, IGMP
Initializing RT netlink socket
Starting kswapd v 1.5
Detected PS/2 Mouse Port.
Serial driver version 4.27 with MANY_PORTS MULTIPORT SHARE_IRQ enabled
ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
ttyS01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
ttyS02 at 0x03e8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
pty: 256 Unix98 ptys configured
apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x07 (Driver version 1.9)
Real Time Clock Driver v1.09
RAM disk driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 4096K size
SIS5513: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 09
SIS5513: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
ide0: BM-DMA at 0x4000-0x4007, BIOS settings: hda:pio, hdb:pio
ide1: BM-DMA at 0x4008-0x400f, BIOS settings: hdc:pio, hdd:pio
hda: ST52520A, ATA DISK drive
hdb: ST52520A, ATA DISK drive
hdc: CREATIVE CD1220E, ATAPI CDROM drive
ide2: ports already in use, skipping probe
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
hda: ST52520A, 2446MB w/112kB Cache, CHS=621/128/63
hdb: ST52520A, 2446MB w/112kB Cache, CHS=621/128/63
hdc: ATAPI 12X CD-ROM drive, 240kB Cache
Uniform CDROM driver Revision: 2.54
Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077
md driver 0.90.0 MAX_MD_DEVS=256, MAX_REAL=12
raid5: measuring checksumming speed
8regs : 243.459 MB/sec
32regs : 185.166 MB/sec
using fastest function: 8regs (243.459 MB/sec)
scsi : 0 hosts.
scsi : detected total.
md.c: sizeof(mdp_super_t) = 4096
Partition check:
hda: hda1 hda2 < hda5 hda6 >
hdb: hdb1 hdb2 < hdb5 >
autodetecting RAID arrays
autorun ...
... autorun DONE.
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
Freeing unused kernel memory: 60k freed
Adding Swap: 52380k swap-space (priority -1)
YM3812 and OPL-3 driver Copyright (C) by Hannu Savolainen, Rob Hooft
1993-1996
**************This is my Boot.log file******************
May 6 16:00:34 Atlantis atd: atd startup succeeded
May 6 16:00:26 Atlantis rc.sysinit: Setting clock : Thu May 6 16:00:26 CDT
1999 succeeded
May 6 16:00:26 Atlantis rc.sysinit: Enabling swap space succeeded
May 6 16:00:27 Atlantis apmd: apmd startup succeeded
May 6 16:00:30 Atlantis network: Bringing up interface lo succeeded
May 6 16:00:31 Atlantis network: Bringing up interface eth0 succeeded
May 6 16:00:31 Atlantis network: Bringing up interface ppp0 succeeded
May 6 16:00:31 Atlantis portmap: portmap startup succeeded
May 6 16:00:32 Atlantis mount: mount: backgrounding "pinkfloyd:/"
May 6 16:00:32 Atlantis mount: mount: RPC: Program not registered
May 6 16:00:32 Atlantis netfs: Mounting NFS filesystems succeeded
May 6 16:00:32 Atlantis mount: mount: backgrounding "pinkfloyd:/"
May 6 16:00:32 Atlantis mount: mount: RPC: Program not registered
May 6 16:00:32 Atlantis netfs: Mounting other filesystems succeeded
May 6 16:00:32 Atlantis random: Initializing random number generator
succeeded
May 6 16:00:35 Atlantis crond: crond startup succeeded
May 6 16:00:35 Atlantis rc: Starting pcmcia succeeded
May 6 16:00:35 Atlantis inet: inetd startup succeeded
May 6 16:00:36 Atlantis named: named startup succeeded
May 6 16:00:37 Atlantis lpd: lpd startup succeeded
May 6 16:00:38 Atlantis nfs: Starting NFS services: succeeded
May 6 16:00:39 Atlantis nfs: rpc.statd startup succeeded
May 6 16:00:40 Atlantis nfs: rpc.rquotad startup succeeded
May 6 16:00:40 Atlantis nfs: rpc.mountd startup succeeded
May 6 16:00:41 Atlantis nfs: rpc.nfsd startup succeeded
May 6 16:00:41 Atlantis keytable: Loading keymap:
May 6 16:00:41 Atlantis keytable: Loading
/usr/lib/kbd/keymaps/i386/qwerty/us.kmap.gz
May 6 16:00:41 Atlantis keytable: Loading system font:
May 6 16:00:41 Atlantis rc: Starting keytable succeeded
May 6 16:00:42 Atlantis sendmail: sendmail startup succeeded
May 6 16:00:43 Atlantis gpm: gpm startup succeeded
May 6 16:00:44 Atlantis httpd: httpd startup succeeded
May 6 16:00:44 Atlantis sound: Starting sound configuration: sound
May 6 16:00:44 Atlantis rc: Starting sound succeeded
May 6 16:00:46 Atlantis xfs: xfs startup succeeded
May 6 16:00:46 Atlantis linuxconf: Linuxconf final setup
May 6 16:00:47 Atlantis rc: Starting linuxconf succeeded
May 6 16:00:47 Atlantis rc: Starting local succeeded
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Forum Package for Web Site
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 22:19:58 GMT
I am looking for a perl, cgi, or java based package that will allow users to
post messages and see those messages in a threaded html page.
I have seen several listserv packages but no forum manager type of package.
Any suggestions on 'the best' or 'the easiest to use' forum package.
Thanks for your help...
Mike
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Is Unix a single user operating system?
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 22:18:03 GMT
Jesus Monroy, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>snip<
: In short, as I see it two (2) release will be needed to
: accomplish any type of 'marketing' success. Both releases
: must have the ablity to walk up to a machine and just
: use it NO password with NO su issues whatsoever.
fubar::0:0:Joe Fool:/root:/usr/local/bin/zsh
: One release will have the ability to login in remotely,
: but will have none the traditional services (ftp,www)
: installed. All services need to be configured (somehow),
: except telnet (remote login). (This version of course will
: requires a password to login remotely.)
:
: The other release will have the 'traditional' services
: installed and running, but have no login facilites built-in,
: EVEN in the kernel. The second method should garauntee that
: no machine had the capabilities to be infultrated (sp?).
And these two releases would be useful to who, exactly?
Telnetd without at least ftpd? Another with all services except
telnetd or even a getty on console? You're a bit late for April
1st.
: --
: If you have to read the docs, it's broken.
Hmm, this might apply:
"Lazy people never bother to actually read the manual. Instead they
(like kids) pick something with big, colorful buttons."
-- Eugene Tyurin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
--
-Zenin ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Yah, Emacs is a good OS, but I prefer FreeBSD.
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From: "rob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Compiling
Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 20:33:46 -0600
I suggest you buy a red hat cd and do a full installation.
rob.
Elliott Paiken wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>what appz or files do I need when compiling .tar files.. whenever I do
>./configure it never works and I think it's because I do not have any
>compilers on my system or something. If you know what files I need please
>let me know thanks
>
>
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From: Andrew Carol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 19:47:44 -0700
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jim Richardson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> if it is encrypted with intels public key, then I can encrypt the
> "fake" key with the same intel public key
You have no idea of the format of a real key. Because you don't know
their private key you can't ever see that. It could be designed to
have a known hash, etc. You spoof key would simply never be accepted
at their end.
> And this doesn't address
> the interception problem. At some point. THere is a call from software
> that can be intercepted and rewritten. F00F style.
I don't see that the programmers model can see _any_ of this. The
software will write what Intel gives it at an address. The hardware
will read that data into the CPU. In _hardware_ it will decode, and
start work. The software is strictly delivering a package. At no
point does it interpret, or receive an answer for what it does from the
hardware.
The software need not be trusted at _any_ level. It's just scrambled
bytes at every point outside the physical CPU.
> Man in the middle,
There are well understood protocols to prevent that.
> interception of api calls, (or whatever level the
> call is at.)
API's don't matter. We would already assume the software could be
uttery in the hands of the enemy. It simply passes bytes back and
forth. It is no different than the phone line when moving PGP messages
back and forth. Nothing of any interest happens outside of the
hardware of the CPU. None of that is under _any_ software control.
> bribery of an intel employee.
Even that can be made very, very hard. Multi person security, and
putting most of it into the hardware so that it can't be read even if
they want to.
How would a bank keep a private key secure today with billions floating
around to be stolen.
--- Andrew
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