Linux-Misc Digest #90, Volume #21                Tue, 20 Jul 99 02:13:16 EDT

Contents:
  Re: CIA assassinations (Richard Kulisz)
  Re: Karl Marx was fat and hairy chap (Richard Kulisz)
  Re: Did you switch from Windows to Linux? (Christopher Pedersen)
  Re: Karl Marx was fat and hairy chap ("U. Art")
  LINUX:  Can't get ASUS P2B-DS to Recognize RAID for Redhat 6.0 install (Robert A. 
Hayden)
  Re: Marx vs. Nozick (Richard Kulisz)
  Re: DAT tape refuses to load - help? (Stuart R. Fuller)
  Re: Dial up to isp (Valentin Guillen)
  Re: Did you switch from Windows to Linux? (Christopher B. Browne)
  Re: Configure the Telnet Daemon in RH 6.0 Pentium III - 450Mhz (Adrian Hands)
  Re: Marx vs. Nozick (Richard Kulisz)
  Re: Cron Files (Stuart R. Fuller)
  Re: HP false advertising!!!! (Stuart R. Fuller)
  Re: Method to scan hard disks (Stuart R. Fuller)
  Re: newbie wants advice (Robert Schweikert)
  Re: Scrolling with a mouse wheel in Linux (Adrian Hands)
  anonymous ftp - permissions problem (Gerald Pollack)
  Re: VMware with SuSE 5.3 ("Chad Mulligan")
  Re: "system too big".. for WHAT! (Glenn Valenta)
  Re: Datestamp in /var/log/messages (Adrian Hands)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Kulisz)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: CIA assassinations
Date: 20 Jul 1999 04:18:14 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Anthony Ord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Michel Catudal wrote:
>>> Capitalism is man exploiting man
>>> Communism and socialism are the opposite

>Some people don't even get this one.

<groan> I do /now/.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Kulisz)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Karl Marx was fat and hairy chap
Date: 20 Jul 1999 04:13:55 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
U. Art <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>And why don't you concentrate on "working man" (as compared with 'ruling
>class')? What's so special about the 'working man'? An illiterate smelly
>ass he is.

What's special about working people is that they're the *only* group
to have never had a chance to rule in the whole history of the Earth.

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From: Christopher Pedersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Did you switch from Windows to Linux?
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 23:24:45 -0400


Speaking of word-processors...

No, I did not switch from Windows to Linux.  I installed SuSE 5.1 on my
machine a year ago, and thought it was very cool.  I loved the
command-line control, the multiple consoles, the unobtrusiveness of the
GUI, and the sheer configurability of it.  I still have it on my machine.
But i hardly ever use it.

Why?  Because I spend most of my time on the machine writing formal papers
that require neat formatting, endnotes or footnotes, multiple styles,
etc.; and I spend much of the rest of my time on the machine jotting notes
- or trying to find them.  And I have over the years become used to using
WordPerfect, as well as a few other tools, to do these jobs.  I had hoped
to be able to do the same thing in Linux - especially after I'd heard of
the the WP8 for Linux release.  But WP8 for Linux is about the worst
excuse for a word processor I've seen in years.  Mind you, it doesn't lack
for functionality; it's just plain *unreadable*.

I grew up with computers, starting with the early Apple II (actually, the
TRS-80), and I enjoyed messing around with the Linux OS.  I do really
believe that it is a better OS than Windows, for any number of reasons.
But for me, it doesn't have the apps yet.  Geeks and gurus can say what
they like about how great TeX and LATeX are - and I'm sure they are great
- but they don't have what I need and want, which is a well-designed
and *readable* GUI.  When Linux sports a really decent version of
WordPerfect, a database like Access, and some kind of graphical scripting
tool like Visual Basic that a non-engineer like me can easily master,
*then* I'll be among the first to run out and get it, believe me.

And please, don't scream at me to go out and get a 'free' copy of
StarOffice or Applix or whatever.  I have over 30 Megs of written material
here - of WordPerfect files - plus gad knows how many more of notes,
database entries, etc etc.  One just does not change to a brand new way of
doing things - with different file formats to boot (and notoriously
terrible conversion tools) - in midstream.

As a kind of side-note:  I run a 486dx33 -- pretty clunky by today's
standards.  but I like it, and it does everything I need it to.  Now, one
of the things I *really* like about Linux is that so many of the
graphical apps are based on console apps, or even built out of 'em.  That
means, I can access and edit my files in the console of an old 386 laptop,
with no GUI, as readily as I can in my desktop GUI.  I like that.


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From: "U. Art" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Karl Marx was fat and hairy chap
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 00:43:48 +0600

Richard Kulisz wrote:
> 
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> U. Art <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >And why do you concentrate on "working man" (as compared with 'ruling
> >class')? What's so special about the 'working man'? An illiterate smelly
> >ass he is.
> 
> What's special about working people is that they're the *only* group
> to have never had a chance to rule in the whole history of the Earth.
So maybe that's good...

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert A. Hayden)
Subject: LINUX:  Can't get ASUS P2B-DS to Recognize RAID for Redhat 6.0 install
Crossposted-To: 
alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.periphs.scsi
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 05:05:28 GMT

I am in the process of setting up a new Redhat 6.0 server and I am having
some problems getting it to properly boot from the hardware RAID array I
have.

SYSTEM SPECS:

Motherboard:    ASUS P2B-DS Dual PII mobo w/ on-board 
                Adaptec 7890 Ultra2 Controller Built in
Processors:     2 PII-400s
Memory:         256MB
DRIVE:          18GB RAID5 Array connected to a CMD external
                RAID controller (UltraWide)
                
The installation recognized the RAID disk just fine as ID:0:0 and is able
to install all the software.  However, when I boot the RAID disck, I end
up getting the following in LILO:

    "L 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20"

I do have a 100mb /boot partion as /dev/sda1.

I get the same results if I boot with a floppy.

I am assuming that the issue is related to limitations in LILO's ability
to address large hard drives and the way the 7890 controller addresses
these large drives.  However, Adaptec's support information stinks and I
haven't an clue where to go next.

FYI:  The motherboard is running the latest BIOS.

I would rather not add a stand-alone disk to boot off of, as IMHO that
defeats the purpose of the RAID.

Any thoughts on what to do next?


--
=-=-=-=-=-=
Robert Hayden                   [EMAIL PROTECTED]       UIN: 16570192

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Kulisz)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Marx vs. Nozick
Date: 20 Jul 1999 04:41:29 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Phillip Lord  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>thing. I would personally like to strengthen the right to property
>more than it is, because at the moment it serves only the rich and the
>powerful, which is not right. 

That's ludicrous; your prescription is what caused the disease!

>power of those who own the means of production (interestingly of
>course the "means of production" means people).

Good point, never realized it before.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stuart R. Fuller)
Subject: Re: DAT tape refuses to load - help?
Crossposted-To: redhat.general
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 05:00:03 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: I think this topic has been mentioned before but I cannot track down an
: answer in any of the newsgroups. Help would be appreciated.
: 
: When inserting a DDS3 tape into a HP surestore drive, it just goes in
: and then comes straight back out again. I did once manage to get a tape
: loaded, but all attempts since then have failed.
: It is connected to an Adaptec SCSI controller, and I am running RedHat
: 5.1

The obvious question is, is the HP Surestore drive a DDS3 drive?  I don't
know, and I would think that HP has many models of DAT drives in the
"Surestore" line, so you might want to include a model number.

        Stu

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From: Valentin Guillen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dial up to isp
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 02:04:24 +0000

Robert,

Is this in reference to accessing Mindspring ISP?   If this is the case, then
you don't need a script for access.

You do need to have PAP enabled for account authentication.  You can go to
this page

http://help.mindspring.com/support/browse/general_info/toc/d0119.htm

and link to the Linux or other OS pages for specific info on connecting to
Mndspring ISP.

I'm using the older RH 5.1 for connecting, and what was necessary was to use
  Network Configuration in X session to set the required info for enabling
the PPP session.  Then, using the    User Net utility to start or stop the
PPP session.  Mindspring does use the PAP protocol for authentication.  You
will NOT authenticate without useing it.  I don't  use a script of any kind.

I'm not sure what RH 6.x requires, but I'll send a couple of screen shots of
the required entries.  On the mindspring help pages for Linux, there are
files referenced.  I did go into those files to ensure that the correct
entries were there.  Using the GUI configuration utilities did put the
correct info there.

Best Regards
Valentin Guillen


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher B. Browne)
Crossposted-To:  comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Did you switch from Windows to Linux?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 04:29:21 GMT

On Mon, 19 Jul 1999 23:24:45 -0400, Christopher Pedersen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted:
>
>Speaking of word-processors...
>
>No, I did not switch from Windows to Linux.  I installed SuSE 5.1 on my
>machine a year ago, and thought it was very cool.  I loved the
>command-line control, the multiple consoles, the unobtrusiveness of the
>GUI, and the sheer configurability of it.  I still have it on my machine.
>But i hardly ever use it.
>
>Why?  Because I spend most of my time on the machine writing formal papers
>that require neat formatting, endnotes or footnotes, multiple styles,
>etc.; and I spend much of the rest of my time on the machine jotting notes
>- or trying to find them.  And I have over the years become used to using
>WordPerfect, as well as a few other tools, to do these jobs.  I had hoped
>to be able to do the same thing in Linux - especially after I'd heard of
>the the WP8 for Linux release.  But WP8 for Linux is about the worst
>excuse for a word processor I've seen in years.  Mind you, it doesn't lack
>for functionality; it's just plain *unreadable*.

I'm not enthralled with graphical applications; I have no great complaints
about WP8, but have not used it *really* seriously.  I will have to defer
to your judgement on it.

>I grew up with computers, starting with the early Apple II (actually, the
>TRS-80), and I enjoyed messing around with the Linux OS.  I do really
>believe that it is a better OS than Windows, for any number of reasons.
>But for me, it doesn't have the apps yet.  Geeks and gurus can say what
>they like about how great TeX and LATeX are - and I'm sure they are great
>- but they don't have what I need and want, which is a well-designed
>and *readable* GUI.  When Linux sports a really decent version of
>WordPerfect, a database like Access, and some kind of graphical scripting
>tool like Visual Basic that a non-engineer like me can easily master,
>*then* I'll be among the first to run out and get it, believe me.

WordPerfect 5.1 coped for many years without a GUI of any kind, and
provided good service to its users in that form.

If you are so heavily entrenched in the use of some particular version
of WordPerfect (Version 6 or 7, I presume?), then it would be *foolish*
for you to move to using Linux.

There are those of us that have done much the same thing that you have,
which is to figure out how to use our favorite document system to do
sophisticated things, which thereby means that to retrench from using
LaTeX would be as stupid for us as it would be for you to move from
your current software set.

>And please, don't scream at me to go out and get a 'free' copy of
>StarOffice or Applix or whatever.  I have over 30 Megs of written material
>here - of WordPerfect files - plus gad knows how many more of notes,
>database entries, etc etc.  One just does not change to a brand new way of
>doing things - with different file formats to boot (and notoriously
>terrible conversion tools) - in midstream.

No, I won't "scream" at you.

I will say that my documents of ten years ago produced using LaTeX are
still usable today, whereas you're eventually liable to be *forced* to
discard your present version of WordPerfect, and make a transition
to *something* else.

(Read the URL below for louder "ranting...")

>As a kind of side-note:  I run a 486dx33 -- pretty clunky by today's
>standards.  but I like it, and it does everything I need it to.  Now, one
>of the things I *really* like about Linux is that so many of the
>graphical apps are based on console apps, or even built out of 'em.  That
>means, I can access and edit my files in the console of an old 386 laptop,
>with no GUI, as readily as I can in my desktop GUI.  I like that.

This is certainly a Good Thing.
-- 
Rules of the Evil Overlord #71. "Before employing any captured
artifacts or machinery, I will carefully read the owner's manual." 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/wprant.html>

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From: Adrian Hands <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Configure the Telnet Daemon in RH 6.0 Pentium III - 450Mhz
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 21:01:09 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Nicola Taibi wrote:
> 
> Hi to all unix gurus,
> 
> well, I have installed RH 6.0 on my Pentium III - 450Mhz with
> successful result.
> 
> My network card is a 3Com Etherlink XL 3C900-Combo and i can ping from
> the client to my server and viceversa, but cannot telnet from the
> client.
> 
> I appreciate any help if someone can point me to how configure the
> Telnet Daemon in my system.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Nick
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

telnet is probably already configured, you just need to setup
/etc/hosts.allow.
Try adding this to the end of /etc/hosts.allow:

ALL: ALL

After you've got it working you might want to change it to something
more secure.

-Adrian

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Kulisz)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Marx vs. Nozick
Date: 20 Jul 1999 05:33:11 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Matthias Warkus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>It was the 19 Jul 1999 10:16:04 GMT...
>..and Ashley Penney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I was reading my local newspaper which told me that 40% of 11 year old's
>> are illiterate.  Statements like that mean we're failing.  Badly.
>
>That's not a genetics problem.

It's a problem with racist morons reading The Bell Curve.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stuart R. Fuller)
Subject: Re: Cron Files
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.redhat,linux.redhat.misc
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 05:00:03 GMT

Keven R. Pittsinger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: 
: I've been having some probs with my cron lately.  It's been spewing out
: email to the root user about every 10-15 minutes:
: 
: Return-Path: root 
: Return-Path: <root>
: Received: (from root@localhost)
:       by jamstar.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA00564
:       for root; Sat, 17 Jul 1999 10:30:00 -0400
: Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 10:30:00 -0400
: Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cron Daemon)
: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: Subject: Cron <root@jamstar> root  test -x /usr/lib/cron/run-crons && 
:/usr/lib/cron/run-crons 
: X-Cron-Env: <SHELL=/bin/sh>
: X-Cron-Env: <PATH=/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/lib/news/bin>
: X-Cron-Env: <MAILTO=root>
: X-Cron-Env: <HOME=/root>
: X-Cron-Env: <LOGNAME=root>
: 
: /bin/sh: root: command not found
: 
: I've gone through the files but can't find *anything* wrong.  It just
: started this this morning.
: 
: System here is an AMD k2/300 with 48 megs of RAM and SuSE 6.1 installed
: about 2 months ago.  Any clues for me?

First, things don't "just start" by themselves.  Have you made ANY changes to
your /etc/crontab or root's crontab?

The format for the /etc/crontab is just a little different than the
user-specific crontabs.  The entries in /etc/crontab also includes the
username under which the job is run.  As you can see in the "Subject:" line
above, the job was meant to be run by root. 

This cron job was likely fired off by root's crontab (/var/spool/cron/root
??), but was just copied from /etc/crontab.  Remember, the format is different
between the two types.

        Stu

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stuart R. Fuller)
Subject: Re: HP false advertising!!!!
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.sys.laptops,comp.sys.intel
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 05:00:04 GMT

David J. Topper ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Hey folks,
: 
: I've already posted once before about my lame experience with HP and
: their OMNIBOOK line.  Basically, they shipped me the wrong unit and took
: their sweet time about doing it (eg., no next day air).
: 
: Here's the kicker.  Check out the following web page:
: 
: http://www.hp.com/omnibook/
: 
: It says the machines are available with the new 400mhz processor.  Well
: that's a bold faced lie!  I was just told by an HP sales rep. that they
: ARE NOT available with the 400mhz processor.
: 
: Isn't that false advertising?  Isn't that illegal?  Do I (we) have a
: case?  What's the deal?

Calm down and get a life.  

        Stu

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stuart R. Fuller)
Subject: Re: Method to scan hard disks
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 05:00:03 GMT

Anthony ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: July 17, 1999
: 
: I am a new user in SuSe.
: 
: Please advise the method to scan hard disks.

I'm an old Redhat user.

Please advise what you mean by "scan hard disks".

        Stu

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From: Robert Schweikert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: newbie wants advice
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 19:09:08 -0400

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Ted,

I tthink the best way to get started is to get a book. This will help you
through the install process and once Linux is set up and running you will
be a converted.

Most software is free, if you care to down load it, or you can buy the
stuff at a decent price, a good place is http:\\www.linuxmall.com, check
it out and see for yourself. Windows tools are about 3 times more
expensive then stuff for Linux. As far as books are concerned
barnes&nobel, amazon or fatbrain have a good selection covering Linux.

Have fun and remember have the fun is learning something new while you go
through the set-up, and if you get stuck you generally get a quick answer
here.

Robert

Anon User wrote:

> Hi all -
>
> I am thinking of switching from Windows 98 to Linux, and am now in the
> "finding out" stage.  I have some questions.
> 1.  Is Linux really as stable as people say it is?
> 2.  Can I find a wide choice of applications that run on Linux?
> 3.  If so, are they affordable (compared to their Windows-based
> counterparts)?
> 4.  What are the disadvantages of using Linux?
> 5.  What is the minimum home PC for which linux is recommended?
> 6.  What else does someone like me need to know?
>
> Many thanks to all who answer.
>
> Ted Shoemaker
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Adrian Hands <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Scrolling with a mouse wheel in Linux
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 21:04:12 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Chris Doland wrote:
> 
> Is it produced my Microsoft?
> 
> On Mon, 19 Jul 1999 19:42:32 -0400, jb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Is it possible to setup my Linux system to use the wheel scroller on my
> >mouse while in X?
> >I am running RedHat 5.0?
> >If so, how can I do it?
> >
> >Thanks
> >J Burns
> >
> >

Produced by Microsoft ?  No, I'm pretty sure Microsoft doesn't produce
or distribute RedHat.

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From: Gerald Pollack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: anonymous ftp - permissions problem
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 05:00:57 GMT

I'm trying to get anonymous ftp working (RedHat 5.2). I have the
anonftp-2.5-1 package installed, and I can access the server and
download files from ~/ftp/pub with no problem. But I'm unable to upload;
I get a "permission denied" error. The permissions of ~/ftp/* are as
follows (set up according to the suggestions in the ftpd man page):

dr-xr-xr-x   2 root     root         1024 Oct 20  1998 bin
dr-xr-xr-x   2 root     root         1024 Jul 20 00:19 etc
drwxr-xr-x   2 root     root         1024 Oct 20  1998 lib
drwxrwxrwx   2 root     root         1024 Jul 20 00:41 pub


Can someone please tell me what's wrong? 

Thanks,

-- 
Gerald Pollack
Dept. of Biology, McGill University

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From: "Chad Mulligan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: VMware with SuSE 5.3
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 21:27:42 -0700


Steve wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I've only seen reviews of itbut supposedly it is like a full Windows
>install only much slower.
>
>Don't really know since I have not used it.
>

It creates a complete virtual machine without an OS.  You get a BIOS, Memory, Disks,
Com Ports etc.  Then you load an OS into this space and the OS thinks it is on it's
own machine.  It is pretty slick.

>Steve
>
>On Thu, 15 Jul 1999 17:15:58 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] () wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 15 Jul 1999 22:37:32 GMT, Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Ask jedi. According to him it is so easy to make any version of any
>>>Linux program work with any other distribution.
>>
>> If you were less of a lying rube, you would be aware that
>> vmware has a Windows-esque installation procedure. I'm
>> not sure what sort of init system it thinks it's installing
>> in (looks like Solaris).
>>
>>[deletia]
>



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From: Glenn Valenta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: "system too big".. for WHAT!
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 05:32:26 GMT

Missed a line......

Moshe Sayag wrote:
<snip>
> "
> Here is a basic outline of the kernel-compilation process:
> 
> cd /usr/src/linux (just in case you're in the wrong directory)
> make mrproper
> make xconfig (If this doesn't work out, use make config)
> make dep
> make clean
> make bzImage (Usually the longest part of the process)
> make modules
> make modules_install
> cp arch/i386/boot/zImage /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.zz-new

Above line should read.......
cp arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.zz-new
                  ^

> (edit /etc/lilo.conf)
> lilo
> reboot (no need to do it immediately but the new kernel won't be loaded
> until you reboot)
> "
<snip>

A former cheesehead......

-- 
Glenn Valenta   Engineering @ http://www.coloradostudios.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://ouray.cudenver.edu/~gavalent/
[EMAIL PROTECTED]              Personal mail
[EMAIL PROTECTED]     Work mail

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From: Adrian Hands <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Datestamp in /var/log/messages
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 22:50:11 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Geoff Short wrote:
> 
> Perry Pip ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> : On Mon, 19 Jul 1999 12:52:14 -0700, Warren Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : >I'm sending the output of a script to /var/log/messages.  When it writes
> : >to the file it doesn't stamp the date in front of the message like the
> : >rest of the messages.  Does anyone know how  I can do this?
> 
> Don't just add stuff to the end of the files, send them through the
> syslogd like you're supposed to.  It will add a datestamp, thread
> messages from different sources together, prevent loss of data etc.
> 
> If you're doing it from within a program, use syslog(3); if you are
> using a shell command then pipe it to logger(1).

Definately!
Not to mention, if you do it right (syslog/logger), it will get logged
were /etc/syslog.conf says it should!

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