Linux-Misc Digest #101, Volume #20 Fri, 7 May 99 19:13:08 EDT
Contents:
Re: Where to get gzip (Slip Gun)
Re: The GNU Fragrance of Sharing vs. the Stench of Greed (was: GNU reeks of
Communism (really) (Chris Costello)
KMail (was: I am on a quest...) (Janos Ero)
How to get the target of the link? (Sergei Gnezdov)
PHB ammunition - microsoft hate links (Ken Williams)
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (Matthias Warkus)
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522) (Stefaan A
Eeckels)
Re: manpages (Roland Latour)
Re: Boycott Intel on your own webpage (Andrew Comech)
PCI Hot Plug support (Jim Puthukattukaran)
Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux vs. Windows (Richard Caley)
Re: Don't Have LDCONFIG? (Coy A Hile)
Re: Linux Perl/CGI problem (brian moore)
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (Andrew Carol)
Re: Don't Have LDCONFIG? (Jim McCusker)
tar (Ryan Green)
Re: Is Unix a single user operating system? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: PNP Modem and Linux... (Michael McConnell)
Re: tar (Desmond Coughlan)
Re: RedHat 6 bash: set -o vi broke? ("Michael Y. Chiang")
Re: Mac-emulation on Linux? (Stan Barr)
Re: How to setuid an executable ? (Desmond Coughlan)
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From: Slip Gun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Where to get gzip
Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 23:07:06 +0100
Ian Hay wrote:
> [posted and mailed]
>
> Slip Gun wrote:
>
> > I am a new Linux user wanting to download gzip. I have found a copy on
> > the sunsite archive and downloaded it, but it's a gz file. Where could
> > I get a version of gzip that I dont need gzip to unzip? :-)
> > Cheers,
> > Ed
>
> (a) I am shocked that it's not already installed on your system. How
> did you install linux? From CD?
>
> (b) there is no reason to download it: if you installed Linux from a CD,
> there is exactly 100% chance that it's on the CD you installed from.
> --
> --------------------------------------------------------
> Ian R. Hay <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Toronto, Canada <http://www3.sympatico.ca/ian.hay/>
> "Linux already IS user-friendly ... it's just very picky
> about who it makes friends with!" -- source unknown.
> --------------------------------------------------------
sorry, guess i was a bit stupid! Thanks.
Ed
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Costello)
Crossposted-To:
talk.politics.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.activism,alt.society.liberalism
Subject: Re: The GNU Fragrance of Sharing vs. the Stench of Greed (was: GNU reeks of
Communism (really)
Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 15:32:02 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Hayden wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Costello) wrote:
>
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > wrote:
> > > On Mon, 03 May 1999 02:11:32 GMT, Chris Costello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:
> > > >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >wrote:
> > > >> On Mon, 03 May 1999 01:14:44 GMT, Chris Costello
> > > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >> >In article
> > > >> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, D.
> > > >> >Vrabel wrote:
> > > >> >> On Sun, 2 May 1999, Chris Costello wrote:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mark S. Bilk wrote:
> > > >> >> > > >For each person, it depends on timescale or personal
> > > >> >> > > >interest. Some systems elevate a "class" of individuals to take
> > > >> >> > > >advantage of others ("practical communism" and GPL),
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > Amazing! Exactly what "class of individuals" is enabled
> > > >> >> > > to "take advantage of others" by means of the GPL? All of
> > > >> >> > > humanity minus Bill Gates?
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > The GPL is a crock. It forces openness. That's not freedom.
> > > >> >> > You like walking outside sometimes, I would bet. Would you like
> > > >> >> > being *FORCED* to walk outside all the time? That's the key
> > > >> >> > problem with the GPL and many recognize it.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> Alas, your argument is wrong because your not forced to use the GPL or
> > > >> >> to use GPL software.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I'm completely aware. I don't like developing on software
> > > >> >that makes me release all of my code. If I want to, say, use an
> > > >> >IRC server that's GPLed, and add my proprietary extensions to it
> > > >> >for conferences amongst my coworkers, I can't do that, now, can
> > > >> >I?
> > > >>
> > > >> Sure you can. You just can't try to sell the derivative work.
> > > >
> > > > Ok, I misunderstood that part. How about this hypothetical
> > > >situation:
> > > >
> > > > I'm writing a closed-source database system, but I *really*
> > > >like the sort code from FooSQL, the GPLed SQL server. So I have
> > > >it working with my closed database system. Can I sell it
> > > >legally?
> > >
> > > Sure. You just have to provide source. Distribution
> > > requires disclosure of source regardless of what you
> > > charge for it. Don't distribute it (just use it like
> > > Walnut Creek) & you don't have to release your source.
> >
> > I didn't get my point across right (and I noticed that from my
> > post, not your response):
> >
> > Say I work for a company that wants to sell ClosedSQL, and
> > ClosedSQL's sort code is so bloated that it's just not going to keep
> > companies happy under heavy load, and FooSQL's sort code is so
> > optimized that it simply can't be beat! Copying the code
> > directly would clearly be a violation in license. Closed, Inc.
> > is generally proprietary (much like BSD, Incorporated.) so it's
> > wary to release the source code.
> >
> > See where I'm going?
> >
> So you're saying that it's ok for you to use other code that someone
> has written and gotten perfect and then was kind enough to _give_ away
> and you want to use their time and effort so that you or your company
> can make money. Rather than spending the time and money to make
> ClosedSQL's sort code better you want to rip off FooSQL's code.
>
> And if FooSQL was proprietary and you riped off their code? That would
> be wrong and you would go to jail (unless you are Microsoft). Why is
> Free code any different? The author(s) of the code have (has) said that
> they want this code to be Free rather than making you pay for it. If
> the code is better because it is Free then why should you have the
> right to make it non-Free?
It's free so people can "use" the code in one way or another.
Besides, this isn't about open source! I have nothing against it
at all! My only problem is with the GPL!
>
> --
> Hayden
>
> "You need an IQ upgrade to use that piece of software."
> -- Dogbert
--
Chris Costello
How an engineer writes a program: Start by debugging an empty file...
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From: Janos Ero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: KMail (was: I am on a quest...)
Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 09:34:23 +0200
Josh Miller wrote:
> I use Kmail... it DOES support multiple pop and imap accounts, it's graphical, it's
>been stable for
> me, it's pretty fast. It doesn't seem to have the threading you're looking for (but
>I'm running
> 1.0).
> The only thing I'd like to see in it is html support (for reading, cause there will
>always be idiot
> out there sending the stuff... and a few newsletters I get are in html mail).
> It doesn't support sending from multiple e-mail accounts, but you can recieve from
>as many as you
> want by just clicking one button. That's all I need. If I need to send from another
>account, it's
> probably for a rare reason, and I use netscape's mail (cause I'm usually replying to
>web email links
> when that happens).
>
> I think kmail would make an excellent base for building what you want though!
I use KMail too. It is a very well made tool. Stable, easy to use and
well arranged.
What I miss most is a search function. I would need a header find (what
is the E-Mail address of that guy, who wrote me 3 or 4 months ago?) and
a full content find (slow, but sometimes you need). Stefan Tafener, who
created KMail, will include this in some future version, if his free
time allows.
Janos Ero
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From: Sergei Gnezdov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How to get the target of the link?
Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 16:47:25 -0400
All I know is, that `ls -l` command will show me the target of the link.
What ate the another ways to get it?
If I want to get just name of the target, how can I do this?
Thanks
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ken Williams)
Subject: PHB ammunition - microsoft hate links
Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 15:38:45 GMT
Over the past long time I've collected a bunch of pro linux/hate ms links.
There are as follows for those who give a damn.
http://www.infoworld.com/cgi-bin/displayNew.pl?/petrel/980727np.htm
http://www.osopinion.com/Opinions/GaneshCPrasad/GaneshCPrasad2.
html#Introduction
http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/980730/crl_networ_1.html
http://rshweb.com/support/vservers/unix_nt.html
http://www.cnn.com/TECH/computing/9903/24/mslinux.html/
http://www.fightdivx.com/intelboycott.htm
http://www.bsdi.com/info/ntvsunix
http://www.techweb.com/wire/story/TWB19981029S0001
http://www.hzo.cubenet.de/ioscount/
http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,29416,00.html?st.ne.fd.gif.f
http://msbc.simplenet.com/ierror/
http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit19981105.html
http://www.lantimes.com/98/98aug/808b001a.html
http://www.opensource.org/halloween1.html
http://www.standishgroup.com/syst.html
http://www.insanely-great.com/Interface/
http://www.currents.net/newstoday/98/06/04/news3.html
http://www.infoworld.com/cgi-bin/displayNew.pl?/petrel/980713np.htm
http://www.ncworldmag.com/ncw-06-1998/ncw-06-lastten.html
http://www.gartner.com/public/static/datapro/industry/indnews6.html
http://www.kirch.net/unix-nt.html
http://www.redhat.com/redhat/datapro.html
http://www.isdmag.com/Editorial/1998/CoverStory9807.html
http://www.ncworldmag.com/ncworld/ncw-05-1998/ncw-05-nextten.html
http://www.caldera.com/newsletter/march98/mar98p2.html
http://photo.net/wtr/servers.html
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism
Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 13:37:06 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the Thu, 06 May 1999 13:51:59 -0700...
..and Andrew Carol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Matthias Warkus
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Don't try to divert from the subject. We were talking about how fast
> > software development is. And I don't need to explain to you what the
> > reason is that people run Windows and not an alternative?
>
> Speed of development is one small part of the overall equation of cost,
> availability, features, quality, support, documentation, etc.
But we weren't talking about anything else. That's the point I was
trying to get across. You were blabbering that only the proprietary
way of software development can react fast to the user's needs, and
that is wrong. And that's all we're talking about.
> People weigh it their own way and use what they want. If proprietary
> was not better able to meet some needs it would simply not exist.
>
> > Funny how you know the average consumer so well.
>
> Well, frankly the cash register seems to know them pretty well. I
> interact with two extended families of people who are not in any
> technical kind of business and they love their Windows boxes. They
> bitch about this or that, but they line up for upgrades, seem to love
> the availability of software and seem to be, overall, very happy.
That's because they don't know an alternative.
> They don't develop. GNU means nothing to them. Free software means
> Shareware they "forget" to pay for.
>
> Give them an alternative to Windows which runs what they want and is
> "better", and they'd probably go for it. Until then you are just
> spouting off about how bad it is for the workers today and when the
> revolution comes what we will do with the elite criminal band of
> Capitalist thugs.
>
> We can argue theory all day, but in the end its when the rubber meets
> the road that matters. Free software will do well, but it will never
> come to dominate the industry. In five years things will still
> overwhelmingly favor proprietary software and you will still be bitter
> about it.
There are enough people around here I can reasonably discuss those
issues with, I don't need some idiot like you insulting me, constantly
getting off-topic because he hasn't got arguments and spewing nonsense
all around.
*PLONK*
mawa
--
Multiple exclamation marks are sign of a diseased mind.
-- Terry Pratchett
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stefaan A Eeckels)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522)
Date: 7 May 1999 19:43:01 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> More money is made through music than through books (counting both trashy
>> novels and rap). More people are affected by music than by books. Old music
>> is still relevant, old books are (mostly) not, and are certainly less
>> enjoyable than old music.
>
> I don't find that to be true at all. Most of the best books I have read
> were written more then 100 years ago....and I have read far less of them
> then new novels. Authors have to be pretty good to live for more then a
> few years, and to span 100s is very rare,...so those that do are for the
> most part very good.
Old to me is about 400-500 years. You practically need
translations to be able to read books that old. In addition,
you need help with context, social situations etc. Music
is a lot more timeless, and also more universal, than
the written word.
--
Stefaan
--
PGP key available from PGP key servers (http://www.pgp.net/pgpnet/)
___________________________________________________________________
Perfection is reached, not when there is no longer anything to add,
but when there is no longer anything to take away. -- Saint-Exup�ry
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From: Roland Latour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: manpages
Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 08:32:02 -0700
Martin Bieder wrote:
>
> is it possible to convert manpages into ordinary textfiles?
> Thanks for answers..
All you have to do is take out backspaces & underlines:
man man|col -b > man.txt
--
Retired Tech Support Engineer http://home.cdsnet.net/~rolandl
No matter how great your triumphs or how tragic your defeats --
approximately one billion Chinese couldn't care less.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Comech)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Boycott Intel on your own webpage
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 7 May 1999 01:45:30 -0500
On 6 May 1999 15:56:47 -0500, A Guy Called Tyketto wrote:
>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>Hash: SHA1
>
> Actually, I'll make it better, and take the whole damned thread out
>of c.o.l.misc and c.o.l.hardware. Followups are now set to
>comp.os.linux.advocacy ONLY. go bitch about your CPU wars there. that's
>what the group is for. 'nuff said.
>
> BL.
Hi Brad,
What does it have to do with advocating Linux?
The guy I yelled at was unnecessarily rude when speaking to an
underage who started the thread, but then the "damned thread" was
peacefully discussing certain hardware issues which are also
Linux-relevant.
Regards,
Andrew
--
Looking for a Linux-compatible V.90 modem? See
http://www.math.sunysb.edu/~comech/tools/CheapBox.html#modem
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Puthukattukaran)
Subject: PCI Hot Plug support
Date: 7 May 1999 20:47:29 GMT
I am looking for any effort/interest in providing PCI Hot Plug support for Linux.
Any one interested, please get in touch with me.
regards,
Jim
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From: Richard Caley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux vs. Windows
Date: 07 May 1999 17:11:50 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bill Vermillion (bv) writes:
bv> It's hard to protect a system against stupid mistreaks. :-)
Simpel things like always keeping a process slot open for root,,
always leaving some swap space for root, giving root on the console
absolute priority and so can make sure it's possible to fix stupid
mistakes.
Of course if you make a stupid mistake as root, you deserve to
die:-). But then you shouldn't be doing things as root very often, and
when you do you should have your brain turned up to maximum.
--
Mail me as rjc not [EMAIL PROTECTED] _O_
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Coy A Hile)
Subject: Re: Don't Have LDCONFIG?
Date: 7 May 1999 12:18:25 -0400
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jason Bond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Apparantely, I need the program ldconfig in the process
>of installing GTK and GLIB but I get:
>
>(root@blah: ~) ldconfig
>bash: ldconfig: command not found
>
>when running as root....any suggestions as to the problem?
>Thanks,
>
> Jason
>
>
is wherever ldconfig exists on your system in $PATH?
if not, put it there.
Coy
--
Coy Hile
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Theirs not to reason why; theirs but to do...."
Tennyson, "Charge of the Light Brigade"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Subject: Re: Linux Perl/CGI problem
Date: 7 May 1999 16:22:38 GMT
On Thu, 06 May 1999 18:24:39 GMT,
Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a counter.cgi script that can be run from the cgi-bin directory.
> This can be executed from
> any browser. The chmod of counter.cgi is 777 the same as another script
> I wrote called test.cgi
Why in Linus's name would you make it 0777? Do you really think it's a
good idea to allow anyone to overwrite and change your script?
> that was nothing more than this:
>
> #!/usr/local/bin/perl
>
> print�Content-type:text/html\n\n�;
Why the funky characters? Been using MS products? What's '\x94'
supposed to be?
> print �Show me the monkey�;
Neato, new funky characters. What's \x93 and how is it different from
the \x94 you used above?
> I also did a command of : perl �c test.cgi
> It came back with Syntax ok.
Really? It figured out what '\x96' is?
> I could not access this test.cgi file. Although I can access the
> counter.cgi and the files have the
> same chmod of 777.
Why?
> I don�t understand why I can run the counter.cgi but not the test.cgi.
> Is there more to the permissions than just the chmod?
No, but things such as end of line convention matters.
Considering your use of weird characters in this post you no doubt have
more weird crap like lines with 0x0d in them.
Stop using "MICROS~1 enhancements" and your life will be easier and your
posts won't be filled with crap like \x94. You may even find your code
magically starts working.
--
Brian Moore | "The Zen nature of a spammer resembles
Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | a cockroach, except that the cockroach
Usenet Vandal | is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
Netscum, Bane of Elves. Peter Olson, Delphi Postmaster
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From: Andrew Carol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism
Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 14:40:48 -0700
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The only thing that Free Software really lags in at this
> point is that same thing that has plauged any platform !DOS.
But that is an enourmous set of things to be missing! ("The only
reason we lost the game is the other side made more goals!")
> >The sad thing is that *today*, the *average* consumer is _vastly_
> >better served by Microsoft than by any Free software. Of course it
> >would be wonderful if this changed over time for the better.
>
> So? It's a false dichotomy. There is more to software
> than merely Linux vs. Winodws.
I am no fan of Windows, and I rather do like the ideas behind Free
software. But I also know that the average consumers life *today* is
not bettered by Free Software to the same degree it is by Microsoft
software. (Of course, I hope that reverses)
That doesn't mean Microsoft has "good" software, but rather the Free
stuff is not yet up to the demands of the consumer market. Over time
this situation will improve.
You complain about consumers simply not knowing, yet even if they did
know and did agree with you, there would still be precious little Free
software they could actually use in their current lives.
You have dreams of a wonderful little shop which will give high quality
products away for free. You complain that people don't know it exists
and won't visit because they currently go to the large and expensive
store down the lane. Of course you have only laid the foundation to
your shop and don't actually have any consumer departments yet, but
still you complain. Few suppliers for your shop? Simply convince them
they can eat better with your new system and they will gladly deliver
wonder things for you to give away.
I see Microsoft shipping shoddy stuff today, but all I hear from you is
how great it's going to be when all software is Free. Shoddy is better
than talk.
I think Free software will be really big some day. I think proprietary
software will always be really big. I think it's way to early for you
to reasonably assert that proprietary is doomed. When the shop really
opens then we'll begin to have some real evidence to convince me
otherwise.
--- Andrew
When
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From: Jim McCusker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Don't Have LDCONFIG?
Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 12:56:08 -0400
Coy A Hile wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Jason Bond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Apparantely, I need the program ldconfig in the process
> >of installing GTK and GLIB but I get:
> >
> >(root@blah: ~) ldconfig
> >bash: ldconfig: command not found
> >
> >when running as root....any suggestions as to the problem?
> >Thanks,
> >
> > Jason
> >
> >
> is wherever ldconfig exists on your system in $PATH?
> if not, put it there.
If you've su'ed to root, then it is common for the paths to not be set
properly. ldconfig is usually found at /sbin/ldconfig. Just type that in
and it should run.
Jim
--
Jim McCusker | Class of '99, BA Computer Science & Cognitive Science
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://cif.rochester.edu/~fprefect
~Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it,
poorly.~
~~Henry
Spencer
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From: Ryan Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: tar
Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 05:02:43 -0230
Can somebody please tell me how to unzip programs compressed inside
tar.gz files??
Please help,
Ryan
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Is Unix a single user operating system?
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Date: 07 May 1999 21:38:44 GMT
Jesus Monroy, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: On Fri, 07 May 1999 05:17:43 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>snip<
: No. There would be NO shell. That is the whole issue. A shell as we
: traditionally think would not exist.
:
: Sure you could use 'csh' or 'bash', but other services,
: those associate with a 'multi-user' enviroment would be
: gone. (non-existant, not available)
Then you don't want Unix. Have you tried OS/2?
>snip<
:> In that case, why, pray tell, would you give them a Unix shell
:> of any kind? Wouldn't you want to boot directly into a running
:> KDE session under UID 0?
:>
: Let's skip the politics for a moment, if we can't.
: Let's skip KDE and just say any GUI or command line type
: interface for the moment. The let's consider that there is NO
: UID.
Have you tried OS/2?
>snip<
:> Please do, because your requested configurations not only don't
:> make sense, they have seemingly have nothing to do with your
:> stated goals.
:
: Okay.
:
: A computer system with
>snip<
Have you tried OS/2?
: now for the security part:
: machine #1 would be
: ---
: secured for remote access from a single interface,
: possibly telnet.
Telnet is one of the most insecure remote access systems available.
Maybe ssh?
Also, why just telnet style access? What if you want to transfer a
file? Telnetd without ftpd is almost silly in this design, or do
you think we should resort back to sz?
: insecure from the console, therefore walking upto
: it would allow you INSTANT access.
Have you tried OS/2?
: machine #2 would be
: ---
: impossible to access remotely, and would require
: installation of source code and/or new binaries.
: insecure from the console, therefore walking upto
: it would allow you INSTANT access.
Have you tried OS/2? I really, really don't think you're looking
for Unix at all. If not OS/2, maybe BeOS?
--
-Zenin ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
My code is filled with comments! It's just that my comments are
written in Perl.
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From: Michael McConnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PNP Modem and Linux...
Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 23:22:49 +0100
On Fri, 7 May 1999, Don Whitlow wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I have recently returned to working on my Linux system, trying to get it to
> work again. I have recently reinstalled Red Hat 4.2, and gotten most things
> working. However, I can't remember what the name of the package was that
> would allow me to set my PNP modem to be at a certain COM number, so I can
> PPP to my ISP.
isapnptools (www.roestock.demon.co.uk, IIRC)
-- Michael "Soruk" McConnell [Red Hat 6.0 Available!]
Eridani Star System -- The Most Up-to-Date Red Hat Linux CDROMs Available
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From: Desmond Coughlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: tar
Date: 07 May 1999 23:32:21 +0200
Ryan Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Can somebody please tell me how to unzip programs compressed inside
> tar.gz files??
man tar
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Desmond Coughlan |Restez zen ... Linux peut le faire
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From: "Michael Y. Chiang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.install
Subject: Re: RedHat 6 bash: set -o vi broke?
Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 17:34:05 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Keith Fish
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > anyone install red hat 6.0?
> > >
> > > Ive done it, but bash set -o vi doesn't work?!?!?
> > >
> > > not only is command history not there, but editing broke too....
> > >
> >
> > I had the same problem.
> >
> > I added the following to /etc/inputrc:
> >
> > set keymap vi
> > set editing-mode vi
>
> ditto, i wasn't as clever ... i just deleted all the screwy looking
> escape sequences (last N lines) and the first line of /etc/inputrc
> to make it look the same as what it did for RH5.2. That also did
> the trick.
Well, it seems that I wasn't as clever after all. I originally added
the "set keymap vi" and "set editing-mode vi" to my /etc/inputrc. It
worked for a while, but it seems that just removing all the extra key
bindings was more reliable.
--Michael
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stan Barr)
Subject: Re: Mac-emulation on Linux?
Date: 7 May 1999 17:02:49 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 06 May 1999 15:06:40 -0600, Clifford T. Matthews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>> "Stan" == Stan Barr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Stan> On 05 May 1999 14:15:22 -0600, Clifford T. Matthews
> Stan> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Since the 68040 topped out at 33 MHz (?),
>
> Stan> That's the bus speed, it's doubled internally to 66MHz - like a
> Stan> 486DX2
>
>Popular misconception, but incorrect.
>
>It's true that it's the bus speed.
>
>It's also true that it's doubled internally.
>
>However, unlike the DX2, the internal doubling didn't speed up
>execution dispatch by a factor of two. I used to have a quote from
>Motorola's own manual, but it's been a while since I've seen this
>canard.
>
[more stuff]
Very interesting......I was basing my comment on my memory of studying
a block diagram of the 68040 a while ago. I found the benchmark figures
you quote quite fascinating.
Cheers,
Stan Barr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Desmond Coughlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to setuid an executable ?
Date: 07 May 1999 23:38:11 +0200
christophe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I'd like to allow others users (than root) to
> execute pppd. What shall I do ?
> I don't want to chmod 777 /usr/sbin/pppd
I think you need to create a new group, call it ppp (for example), and
then assign execute permission to pppd, allowing execution by group
ppp. I don't use ppp anymore, so I'm guessing, but I imagine, you
need:
-rwx--x--- 1 root ppp 106536 Jun 5 1998 /usr/sbin/pppd-2.3
In /etc/group you need:
ppp::101:userx,usery,userz ...
... and so on.
Hope this helps.
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