Linux-Misc Digest #149, Volume #20 Tue, 11 May 99 06:13:08 EDT
Contents:
Re: Proper use of /usr/local (Re: The Best Linux distribution?) (Leslie Mikesell)
Re: Bizarre memory problem (Jon Skeet)
How to uninstall packages? (Chris Wilson)
Re: Installing "glib" and "gtk" : how?? (Mladen Gavrilovic)
Re: Is Unix a single user operating system? (was: Wanted: Database/Contact mgr with
backend on Linux/FreeBSD, web frontend) (Frank Crary)
REDHAT 6, cant get custom Kernel 2.2.6 to boot... ("Alan W. Jurgensen")
Re: RedHat price... (Frank Waarsenburg)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Proper use of /usr/local (Re: The Best Linux distribution?)
Date: 10 May 1999 21:35:34 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>: Under e.g. RedHat and Debian, where you get pre-built packages, this
>: directory should not be used by the distribution at all. (Debian is good
>: about this, not sure about RedHat).
>
> So if I install FooBar as I install my system install (being a
> prebuilt package available in the "distribution"), it should be
> installed in /usr, however if install FooBar myself outside of the
> original system install, it should be in /usr/local? Sorry, but
> that makes no sense. Unless FooBar is part of the actual operating
> system it has no purpose being anywhere near /usr.
If you don't want the distribution versions, don't install them. You
can put your version under /usr/local if that is where you want to
store and (forever) maintain it.
> Also, under Unix the difference between a source code install vs a
> "pre-built" or package install should have absolutely no relevance
> as to where it is installed.
It isn't a source vs. binary distinction. If you build from source RPMs
from the distribution the installation goes to the system directories
just like the binary version. It is a distribution vs. your own copy
distinction. It is annoying at times but in these days of new full
distributions every 6 months it is nice to only have to separately
maintain the things that are not included. If you have /usr/local
as a separate partition or a symlink to a directory in another partition
you can safely wipe out your system partition(s) and reinstall the
latest of everything without losing any of the other software you
have installed there. If a system update clobbers anything in
'your' directories you might have to wade through a backup to sort
things out.
Les Mikesell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jon Skeet)
Subject: Re: Bizarre memory problem
Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 10:08:21 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 2.2.1 had significant bugs, although I don't recall that this was supposed
> > to be one of them. Still, it has been out of date for more than 2 months.
> > Have you tried 2.2.7?
>
> Nope - will do. Thanks very much.
And, indeed, all seems to now be working. 479 concurrent mail users and
rising (and thrashing merrily :)
Cheers - once again, the unofficial Linux technical support proves
effective...
--
Jon Skeet - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.pobox.com/~skeet/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Wilson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: How to uninstall packages?
Date: 11 May 1999 02:39:56 GMT
I'm using RH6.0, which doesn't come with glint. I'm relatively new to UNIX,
and I'm wondering whether or not there is a command line sequence that can
locate a package and uninstall it.
Also, is it dangerous if I just use the "rm" command to delete programs? The
main reason that I want to avoid removing programs via that method (aside from
that it would be time-consuming) is that I'm likely to miss certain files.
However, I'm wondering whether or not it's bad for the system to just delete
programs that are installed in the system without a complete uninstallation.
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From: Mladen Gavrilovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Installing "glib" and "gtk" : how??
Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 21:39:41 +0000
After installing glib/gtk make sure you run ldconfig as root.
Regards,
Mladen
Judy wrote:
>
> I'm new to linux, and one of the first steps I'm trying to take in my
> transition phase (from win98, or course) is get a good MP3 player :o) I've
> been trying to install X11Amp for 3 days in vain.
>
> The problem lies in when, in the readme file, it says to install glib 1.2
> and gtk 1.2 . After several attempts I managed to install glib/gtk and their
> respective 'devel' through rpm. But when I try to install X11Amp, it goes
> fine until something like this is printed:
>
> GLIB - version >= 1.2.1... yes
> GTK - version >= 1.2.1...no
>
> I tried re-compiling gtk from the tar.gz files, but I'm stuck at ./configure
> where after checking the GLIB version, it says something like "X....no" then
> dies :))
>
> Anyway to get thru this? I can't live without MP3!!!!
>
> lancelot98
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank Crary)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Is Unix a single user operating system? (was: Wanted: Database/Contact
mgr with backend on Linux/FreeBSD, web frontend)
Date: 11 May 1999 03:00:44 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Rolf Marvin B�e Lindgren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>UNIX supports several users out of convenience - some processes are best
>run as a separate users.
You might want to go back and read some of the things Brian Kernighan and
others have written about the development of unix. Support for multiple
(real) users was what unix was designed for. Various processes and
daemons now use different accounts, but I'm fairly sure that wasn't
true of AT&T version 1. A multi-user environment was a goal from the
start, and the fact that certain system processes can take advantage of
this was a later development.
>...to me, the fact that the same machine can run
>several login shells simultaneously is not sufficient to call it
>anything else. the concept, in UNIX, is a hack - for instance, that
>there are only two levels of user - root and not root.
And? Would you care to explain why more than two levels of users
is vital (i.e. to a multi-user operating system.) For essentially
all of my work (both as a user and a system administrator) those
two levels are usually all I need, and sudo works well for dealing
with the exceptions. Things like the VMS OPERATOR are only useful
if you need someone with root-like but limited access and don't
trust that person with full root access. Except for the situations
sudo can easily deal with, I don't see this as a real problem.
>if you want a true shared user system, go for an operating system that
>supports it - NOS, VMS, TOPS-20.
Ah. I may see why I disagree with you. You seem to be confusing a
``shared user system'' with a multi-user system. Take the account
and machine I am using to post this ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).
Just about anyone at the University of Colorado, Boulder, can get
an account on that machine, or one of a number of similar machines
(which accounts go on which machines is a matter of balancing
loads, with few other criteria.) At the moment, there are 46 people
using it. It is very convenient to have one machine that fifty-odd
people can use, and I would call this a multi-user system. But the
machine is for email and internet access, not collaborative work.
I _don't_want_ other users to have access to the files in my
home directory, since I have no idea who they are and no control
over who might get an account on this machine. A ``true shared
user system'' is inappropriate for this application. This application
calls for sharing disk space and CPU time, not sharing access to
files. Unix is a very good choice for that job.
Frank Crary
CU Boulder
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From: "Alan W. Jurgensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.help,linux.redhat,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: REDHAT 6, cant get custom Kernel 2.2.6 to boot...
Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 09:56:22 -0500
hiyall,
Got redhat 6.0 up and running a-ok. Now i'm going to setup a RAID1 mirrored
partitions...
have downloaded linux 2.2.6 and applied raid0145-19990421-2.2.6
patch... Now compiled a bzImage and installed via lilo:
boot=/dev/sda
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
prompt
timeout=50
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.6
label=linux
root=/dev/sda2
read-only
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.5-15smp
label=RHlinux-smp
root=/dev/sda2
initrd=/boot/initrd-2.2.5-15smp.img
read-only
When LILO starts booting it, is says uncompressing.... and then nothing
more.... its like it MIGHT be booting, cause I hear hard drive working...
BUT no boot messages... no login...ping from another system wont work...
what am I doing wrong?
This is a ultra2 scsi only system... I notice the redhat boot options use
something called initrd... but Ive never needed that with scsi disks
before.... They appear to just contain SCSI module ncr53c8xx anyways....
I've included the ncr53c8xx in my kernel....
doesn't appear to get that far though....
HELP!
thx al-man
see linux-2.2.6 .config:
#
# Automatically generated make config: don't edit
#
#
# Code maturity level options
#
# CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL is not set
#
# Processor type and features
#
# CONFIG_M386 is not set
# CONFIG_M486 is not set
# CONFIG_M586 is not set
# CONFIG_M586TSC is not set
CONFIG_M686=y
CONFIG_X86_WP_WORKS_OK=y
CONFIG_X86_INVLPG=y
CONFIG_X86_BSWAP=y
CONFIG_X86_POPAD_OK=y
CONFIG_X86_TSC=y
CONFIG_X86_GOOD_APIC=y
# CONFIG_MATH_EMULATION is not set
# CONFIG_MTRR is not set
CONFIG_SMP=y
#
# Loadable module support
#
CONFIG_MODULES=y
CONFIG_MODVERSIONS=y
# CONFIG_KMOD is not set
#
# General setup
#
CONFIG_NET=y
CONFIG_PCI=y
# CONFIG_PCI_GOBIOS is not set
# CONFIG_PCI_GODIRECT is not set
CONFIG_PCI_GOANY=y
CONFIG_PCI_BIOS=y
CONFIG_PCI_DIRECT=y
CONFIG_PCI_QUIRKS=y
CONFIG_PCI_OLD_PROC=y
# CONFIG_MCA is not set
# CONFIG_VISWS is not set
CONFIG_X86_IO_APIC=y
CONFIG_X86_LOCAL_APIC=y
CONFIG_SYSVIPC=y
CONFIG_BSD_PROCESS_ACCT=y
CONFIG_SYSCTL=y
CONFIG_BINFMT_AOUT=y
CONFIG_BINFMT_ELF=y
CONFIG_BINFMT_MISC=y
CONFIG_PARPORT=m
CONFIG_PARPORT_PC=m
# CONFIG_PARPORT_OTHER is not set
# CONFIG_APM is not set
#
# Plug and Play support
#
# CONFIG_PNP is not set
#
# Block devices
#
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_FD=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE=y
#
# Please see Documentation/ide.txt for help/info on IDE drives
#
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HD_IDE is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDISK=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDECD=y
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDETAPE is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEFLOPPY is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDESCSI is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_CMD640 is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RZ1000 is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEPCI=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA=y
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_OFFBOARD is not set
CONFIG_IDEDMA_AUTO=y
# CONFIG_IDE_CHIPSETS is not set
#
# Additional Block Devices
#
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP=m
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_NBD=m
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_MD=y
CONFIG_AUTODETECT_RAID=y
CONFIG_MD_LINEAR=m
CONFIG_MD_STRIPED=m
CONFIG_MD_MIRRORING=y
CONFIG_MD_RAID5=m
CONFIG_MD_TRANSLUCENT=m
CONFIG_MD_LVM=m
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM=m
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_XD is not set
CONFIG_PARIDE_PARPORT=m
# CONFIG_PARIDE is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HD is not set
#
# Networking options
#
CONFIG_PACKET=y
CONFIG_NETLINK=y
CONFIG_RTNETLINK=y
# CONFIG_NETLINK_DEV is not set
CONFIG_FIREWALL=y
# CONFIG_FILTER is not set
CONFIG_UNIX=y
CONFIG_INET=y
# CONFIG_IP_MULTICAST is not set
CONFIG_IP_ADVANCED_ROUTER=y
CONFIG_RTNETLINK=y
CONFIG_NETLINK=y
CONFIG_IP_MULTIPLE_TABLES=y
# CONFIG_IP_ROUTE_MULTIPATH is not set
# CONFIG_IP_ROUTE_TOS is not set
# CONFIG_IP_ROUTE_VERBOSE is not set
# CONFIG_IP_ROUTE_LARGE_TABLES is not set
CONFIG_IP_ROUTE_NAT=y
# CONFIG_IP_PNP is not set
CONFIG_IP_FIREWALL=y
# CONFIG_IP_FIREWALL_NETLINK is not set
# CONFIG_IP_ALWAYS_DEFRAG is not set
# CONFIG_IP_ROUTE_FWMARK is not set
# CONFIG_IP_ROUTER is not set
# CONFIG_NET_IPIP is not set
# CONFIG_NET_IPGRE is not set
CONFIG_IP_ALIAS=y
# CONFIG_SYN_COOKIES is not set
#
# (it is safe to leave these untouched)
#
# CONFIG_INET_RARP is not set
CONFIG_SKB_LARGE=y
#
#
#
# CONFIG_IPX is not set
# CONFIG_ATALK is not set
#
# SCSI support
#
CONFIG_SCSI=y
#
# SCSI support type (disk, tape, CD-ROM)
#
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SD=y
CONFIG_CHR_DEV_ST=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SR=m
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SR_VENDOR is not set
CONFIG_CHR_DEV_SG=m
#
# Some SCSI devices (e.g. CD jukebox) support multiple LUNs
#
# CONFIG_SCSI_MULTI_LUN is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_CONSTANTS is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_LOGGING is not set
#
# SCSI low-level drivers
#
CONFIG_SCSI_7000FASST=m
# CONFIG_SCSI_ACARD is not set
CONFIG_SCSI_AHA152X=m
CONFIG_SCSI_AHA1542=m
CONFIG_SCSI_AHA1740=m
CONFIG_SCSI_AIC7XXX=m
# CONFIG_OVERRIDE_CMDS is not set
# CONFIG_AIC7XXX_PROC_STATS is not set
CONFIG_AIC7XXX_RESET_DELAY=5
# CONFIG_SCSI_ADVANSYS is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_IN2000 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_AM53C974 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_MEGARAID is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_BUSLOGIC is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_DTC3280 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_EATA is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_EATA_DMA is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_EATA_PIO is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_FUTURE_DOMAIN is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_GDTH is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_GENERIC_NCR5380 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_INITIO is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_INIA100 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_PPA is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_IMM is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C406A is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_SYM53C416 is not set
CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C7xx=m
# CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C7xx_sync is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C7xx_FAST is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C7xx_DISCONNECT is not set
CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C8XX=y
CONFIG_SCSI_SYM53C8XX=m
CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C8XX_DEFAULT_TAGS=4
CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C8XX_MAX_TAGS=32
CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C8XX_SYNC=20
# CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C8XX_PROFILE is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C8XX_IOMAPPED is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C8XX_PQS_PDS is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_PAS16 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_PCI2000 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_PCI2220I is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_PSI240I is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_QLOGIC_FAS is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_QLOGIC_ISP is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_QLOGIC_FC is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_SEAGATE is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_DC390T is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_T128 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_U14_34F is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_ULTRASTOR is not set
#
# Network device support
#
CONFIG_NETDEVICES=y
# CONFIG_ARCNET is not set
CONFIG_DUMMY=m
# CONFIG_EQUALIZER is not set
CONFIG_NET_ETHERNET=y
CONFIG_NET_VENDOR_3COM=y
# CONFIG_EL1 is not set
# CONFIG_EL2 is not set
# CONFIG_ELPLUS is not set
# CONFIG_EL3 is not set
# CONFIG_3C515 is not set
CONFIG_VORTEX=m
# CONFIG_LANCE is not set
# CONFIG_NET_VENDOR_SMC is not set
# CONFIG_NET_VENDOR_RACAL is not set
# CONFIG_NET_ISA is not set
# CONFIG_NET_EISA is not set
# CONFIG_NET_POCKET is not set
# CONFIG_FDDI is not set
# CONFIG_DLCI is not set
# CONFIG_PLIP is not set
# CONFIG_PPP is not set
# CONFIG_SLIP is not set
# CONFIG_NET_RADIO is not set
# CONFIG_TR is not set
# CONFIG_HOSTESS_SV11 is not set
# CONFIG_COSA is not set
# CONFIG_RCPCI is not set
#
# Amateur Radio support
#
# CONFIG_HAMRADIO is not set
#
# ISDN subsystem
#
# CONFIG_ISDN is not set
#
# Old CD-ROM drivers (not SCSI, not IDE)
#
# CONFIG_CD_NO_IDESCSI is not set
#
# Character devices
#
CONFIG_VT=y
CONFIG_VT_CONSOLE=y
CONFIG_SERIAL=y
# CONFIG_SERIAL_CONSOLE is not set
# CONFIG_SERIAL_EXTENDED is not set
# CONFIG_SERIAL_NONSTANDARD is not set
CONFIG_UNIX98_PTYS=y
CONFIG_UNIX98_PTY_COUNT=256
# CONFIG_PRINTER is not set
CONFIG_MOUSE=y
#
# Mice
#
# CONFIG_ATIXL_BUSMOUSE is not set
# CONFIG_BUSMOUSE is not set
# CONFIG_MS_BUSMOUSE is not set
CONFIG_PSMOUSE=y
# CONFIG_82C710_MOUSE is not set
# CONFIG_PC110_PAD is not set
# CONFIG_QIC02_TAPE is not set
# CONFIG_WATCHDOG is not set
# CONFIG_NVRAM is not set
CONFIG_RTC=y
#
# Video For Linux
#
# CONFIG_VIDEO_DEV is not set
#
# Joystick support
#
# CONFIG_JOYSTICK is not set
# CONFIG_DTLK is not set
#
# Ftape, the floppy tape device driver
#
# CONFIG_FTAPE is not set
#
# Filesystems
#
# CONFIG_QUOTA is not set
CONFIG_AUTOFS_FS=y
# CONFIG_AFFS_FS is not set
# CONFIG_HFS_FS is not set
CONFIG_FAT_FS=m
CONFIG_MSDOS_FS=m
# CONFIG_UMSDOS_FS is not set
CONFIG_VFAT_FS=m
CONFIG_ISO9660_FS=y
# CONFIG_JOLIET is not set
CONFIG_MINIX_FS=m
CONFIG_NTFS_FS=m
CONFIG_HPFS_FS=m
CONFIG_PROC_FS=y
CONFIG_DEVPTS_FS=y
# CONFIG_ROMFS_FS is not set
CONFIG_EXT2_FS=y
CONFIG_SYSV_FS=m
CONFIG_UFS_FS=m
# CONFIG_UFS_FS_WRITE is not set
#
# Network File Systems
#
CONFIG_CODA_FS=m
CONFIG_NFS_FS=m
# CONFIG_NFSD_SUN is not set
CONFIG_SUNRPC=m
CONFIG_LOCKD=m
CONFIG_SMB_FS=m
# CONFIG_SMB_WIN95 is not set
# CONFIG_NCP_FS is not set
#
# Partition Types
#
# CONFIG_BSD_DISKLABEL is not set
# CONFIG_MAC_PARTITION is not set
# CONFIG_SMD_DISKLABEL is not set
# CONFIG_SOLARIS_X86_PARTITION is not set
CONFIG_NLS=y
#
# Native Language Support
#
CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_437=m
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_737 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_775 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_850 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_852 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_855 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_857 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_860 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_861 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_862 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_863 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_864 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_865 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_866 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_869 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_874 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_1 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_2 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_3 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_4 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_5 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_6 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_7 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_8 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_9 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_15 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_KOI8_R is not set
#
# Console drivers
#
# CONFIG_VGA_CONSOLE is not set
# CONFIG_VIDEO_SELECT is not set
#
# Sound
#
# CONFIG_SOUND is not set
#
# Kernel hacking
#
# CONFIG_MAGIC_SYSRQ is not set
--
+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+
Alan W. Jurgensen - Full Compass Systems
phone: (608) 831-7330 - email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+
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From: Frank Waarsenburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RedHat price...
Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 11:14:27 +0200
Fully agree... Just bought a $15 RH5.0 release to set up the box, and then
upgraded everything from the net. $80 is crazy....
Frank
Ray wrote:
> I just checked out the price on the newest version of RedHat (6.0),
> and I see that the basic boxed set is going to sell for between
> $75-$80, to which I say, "ARE THEY OUT OF THEIR EVER-LOVING MINDS?!"
> Is there really that much new in 6.0 to justify such an extreme price
> hike? I got 5.2 for $20, for the basic boxed set. That was a good
> sale price, but even the off-sale price ($40) was about half of what
> 6.0 is going for. What are the thoughts on this? Is RedHat shooting
> themselves in the foot here? As much as I like Linux, it's still not
> *fully* ready for prime-time (by that I mean the *average* home
> computer user).. no USB support, last I checked, for example. The
> average consumer is going to be real pissed off if they spend $80 for
> Linux and they encounter problems with it.. and that can't be a good
> thing for Linux in general. OK, they readily pay $80+ and have
> problems with Windoze, but still... And, yes, I know we can get
> RedHat for "free" over the Net, but your average user might not want
> to do that, or not know how to go about doing it. I just can't help
> think that this is a Bad Thing, since RedHat is the distribution of
> Linux most often seen in retail outlets. Or, am I way off base here?
>
> Personally, this has dead-set me against getting RedHat 6.0 as my next
> Linux. It'll be Caldera or SuSE for me! Most likely the latter...
>
> Ray
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