Linux-Misc Digest #149, Volume #26 Thu, 26 Oct 00 15:13:01 EDT
Contents:
Re: Microsoft Linux? (Leonard Evens)
Re: Installing Linux, Kernel Panic ("Bill Hatter")
Re: FOR ALL VOTERS - PLS READ (Roger Blake)
Re: Netscape sucks: alternatives? (Andrew Purugganan)
Mutt kills Linus. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: FOR ALL VOTERS - PLS READ (Leonard Evens)
Re: FOR ALL VOTERS - PLS READ (Larry Autry)
raidstop ?? (Benoit Patry)
gcc refuses cpp files; Library error ?? (Christian Schubert)
Re: Partitioning Windows Intact (Paul Oliver)
Debian Woody: X-error: could not open default font 'fixed' (Oliver Battenfeld)
Help with virtuald and pop3 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Using Russian fonts?
XFree86 4.0.1 and Q3Arena (Paul Oliver)
Re: ftp tools for linux (Paul Oliver)
Re: TV Tuner/Video Capture cards that support Win2K or Linux? (Stuffed Crust)
Re: Microsoft Linux?
Re: Mutt kills Linus. (Lew Pitcher)
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Microsoft Linux?
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 11:53:19 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> On Tue, 24 Oct 2000 09:43:08 -0500, Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Jim Jerzycke wrote:
> >>
> >> I don't understand what you mean by "A Healthy Linux" being there.
> >> Could you please elaborate?
> >> Thanks, Jim
> >
> >If Linux is a system used by a small community of hobbyists and
> >experimenters and can't get any serious work done because it
> >can't communicate with the rest of the computer world, it
> >won't go anywhere.
>
> Linux connects to more networks and can read more file systems than any
> mickysoft product ever will.
>
> For example, this is a list of filesystems I can access with just my RH6.2
> distribution:
>
> adfs, affs, autofs, coda, coherent, devpts, efs, ext, ext2, hfs, hpfs,
> iso9660, minix, msdos, ncpfs, nfs, ntfs, proc, qnx4, romfs, smbfs, sysv,
> udf, ufs, umsdos, vfat, xenix, xiafs
I am not talking about file systems. In a Microsoft dominated world,
you may have to access web sites designed to work well only with
Microsoft products. You may have to read word processing documents
readable only with Microsoft products. The list is endless. Were
Microsoft to play fair and abide by open standards, there would be
a "free market" in which all could compete. But they don't. It
is as if we had to drive on a tollway where cars made by General
Motors could breeze through the toll booths because they were
tuned specially to work for such cars automatically and others
had to insert the toll in pennies, and even then some toll booths
would refuse to let your car through. You might have a marvel of
technology in your car, but you would have a hard time getting
anywhere on such a road.
--
Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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From: "Bill Hatter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Installing Linux, Kernel Panic
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 13:41:42 -0400
I may be wrong but I believe that the problem stems from the mtrr settings
as well. When you compile your kernel for Dual Processing, you need to
ensure that the MTRR settings are the opposite of what you currently have.
Try that and see if it works.
Bill Hatter
"Brad K" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8t9gm4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hopefully someone can help me with this.
>
> I install Linux (Redhat, Mandrake, and Slackware) and everything goes
fine.
> Then when I
> reboot, I get the error message.
>
> ...changing IO-APIC physical APIC ID to 16
> Kernel panic: could not set ID
> In swapper task - not syncing
>
> Then it just hangs. The system is a Dual PPro 150. When I boot to the
boot
> disk, it boots fine, albeit, not in SMP.
>
> Does anyone have any idea how to fix this?
>
> Thanks,
> Brad K
> www.photova.net
>
>
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roger Blake)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: FOR ALL VOTERS - PLS READ
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 17:53:58 GMT
On Thu, 26 Oct 2000 17:23:02 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Only because their only point of reference is previous microsoft products.
>ANYONE who's used ANY other operating system sees windows for what it is.
Indeed. I'm still constantly amazed by home much better in terms of
performance and stability RSX11M+ is compared to any Microsoft OS
that I've used! (Ditto for RSTS, VMS, TOPS-10, TOPS-20, *nix, etc.)
--
Roger Blake
(remove second "g" and second "m" from address for email)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Purugganan)
Subject: Re: Netscape sucks: alternatives?
Date: 26 Oct 2000 17:52:17 GMT
Jean-David Beyer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
[ user_pref("browser.cache.directory", "/home/jdbeyer/.netscape/cache/");
[ >>>---------------------------^
[ This final slash is the key: it must be there.
Don't get this the wrong way, but HOW DO YOU FIND OUT ALL THIS STUFF???
It sounds so 'X-Files', like Deep THroat talking to you in a parking
garage in the middle of the night:
The final slash is the key: it must be there. OOoooooh
Us newbies don't stand a chance with secrets like this
--
jazz
Registered linux user no. 164098 +--+--+--+ Litestep user no. 386
Doesn't it bother you, that we have to search for intelligent life
--- OUT THERE??
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Mutt kills Linus.
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 17:49:35 GMT
Full text of story at:
http://www.stlnet.com/postnet/stories.nsf/ByDocID/2829695318CF7837862569
82003872CE
--
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: FOR ALL VOTERS - PLS READ
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 12:27:37 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Private User wrote:
> > >
> > > The state of Texas, under the leadership of Governor George W. Bush,
> is
> > > ranked:
> > >
> > > 50th in spending for teachers' salaries
> > >
> > > 49th in spending on the environment
> > >
> > > 48th in per-capita funding for public health
> > >
> > > 47th in delivery of social services
> > >
> > > 42nd in child-support collections
> > >
> > > 41st in per-capita spending on public education
> > >
> > > And ...
> > [Etc. deleted]
> >
> > But one could easily make a compelling argument for Linux users
> > to support Gore rather than Bush. Bush has essentially promised
> > to take the Justice Department heat off Microsoft. Once
> > Microsoft is free of "big government" it will turn its attention
> > to crushing Linux.
>
> Poppycock. Bill Gates (Microsoft) never held a gun to anyone's head
> to purchase Windows, ... . The multitude has done so of their own
> volition. There is more than a modicum of anti-microsoft sentiment
> in the Linux movement and we have benefited from this; a common enemy
> causes a group to coalesce and bolsters its resolve (Psychology 000).
>
> Don't let someone use scare tactics to impose their political doctrine
> on you.
>
> If you want to do service to the Linux community lobby your
> representatives to use Open-Source software in our educational system.
>
> A French legislator has embarked on an interesting venture.
> http://slashdot.org/articles/99/10/28/0820202.shtml
> We should be able to do better.
>
> At a state institution of higher learning, very familiar to me,
> you can use any OS you want as long as the vendor is Microsoft.
> Also, you can buy any soft drink on campus as long as it's a
> Coke product. And this situation is common.
>
> How do you like them apples.
This seems to contradict what you said above. Somebody is forcing
the students and faculty at that university to use Microsoft products.
And the slashdot article reenforces my point. The French want their
GOVERNMENT to insist on open standards. Do you think Microsoft
is going to go along with such legislative proposals in this country?
Why do you think there is a Justice Department suit? That is
exactly the point.
By the way, this is not an issue of conseervative vs. liberal.
Some very conservative figures like Bork are opposed to Microsoft.
(He has been hired by a Microsoft competitor.) And I believe
Orrin Hatch is not too happy about Microsoft dominance. But
it is also true that the Clinton Justice Department has gone
after Microsoft and that Bush has basically suggested he would
not.
Certainly no one should vote for Gore just on the basis of this
issue. It is one of many. But for some people who otherwise
can't see a difference, it is worth pointing out that this is
a difference.
>
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> Before you buy.
--
Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Larry Autry)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: FOR ALL VOTERS - PLS READ
Date: 26 Oct 2000 17:56:40 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>Block Iron & Supply Co - CIS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently
>scribble:
>>> Didn't they offer the GUI first?
>
>> Macs 1984, Lisa 1983? I believe Apple stole from Xenix.
>
>Apple were shown around Xerox. The company were terrified by the idea of
>a paperless office (as most of their business came from copiers, and
>where not going to do anything with the research they'd accumulated.
>
>Apple took the ideas they saw at Xerox and made a mainstream GUI usable
>by the general public.
During a support visit to Xerox L.A. (pre-1983), I saw this GUI
demonstrated. The system was the Xerox Star and it used a mouse. The
hierarchal menus looked a LOT like the Mac.
--
Larry Autry
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Benoit Patry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: raidstop ??
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 14:12:28 -0400
Hi ! (sorry for ny english)
I work with RAID on multiple partition.
I use two disks ide and redhat 7.0
They are my partition config
md0 for /boot (hda1,hdc1)
md1 for /swap (hda6,hdc6)
md2 for /var (hda5,hdc5)
md3 for / (hda7,hdc7)
I would like stop my raid on comand line ( not with shotdown )
But when i use command (raidstop /dev/mdx)
I have wrong message device are busy
I use umount command and i have similar message.
Is-it possible stop my raid ?
What are good methode ?
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Christian Schubert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: gcc refuses cpp files; Library error ??
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 20:28:25 +0200
The system runs on Suse 6.2 Kernel 2.2.10
My aim is to do some progamming under KDE.
This was the first time to utilize the compiler with my own code.
Compiling a new Kernel works o.k.
The compiler accepts files with a .c suffix e.g. hello.c but then
interprets them as C-code.
In the man-files cpp suffix should be accepted by the compiler but the
compiler reacts as you can see
the lines below.
gcc/home/..../hello.cpp -o hello -I$QTDIR/include
gcc/home/..../hello.cpp file not recognized: File format not recognized
Getting the version of the compiler causes the following lines:
gcc -v reading specs from /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2.3/specs
gcc version 2.7.2.3
What do I do wrong ? Is there some confusion in the C-Libraries ? I did
already changes from egcs to gcc and vice versa. Nothing helps. Didn't
expect to have such difficulties.
Thanks for help in advance
Christian
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Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 13:16:27 -0500
From: Paul Oliver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Partitioning Windows Intact
Mark McKay wrote:
>
> I have a fairly new workstation running Windows 98 and am wondering if
> there's a way to repartition it without loosing everything I have on
> it?
> I'm planning on installing RedHat on the new partition I create. Is
> there anything I should be careful of when partitioning to ensure
> everything is fine for RH? (I recall something about the main linux
> partition having to be located in a low numbered sector of the
> harddrive?)
>
> Please cc responses to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Mark
Partition Magic 5.0 is the way to go. Instead of installing Redhat,
install Mandrake, which is based on Redhat and supports everything Redhat
does (RPMs, same file storage scheme, etc.). It's less buggy, and Mandrake
7.1 came with a free version of Partition Magic. You can set up your
partitions during the Mandrake install! Mandrake 7.2 is coming out soon,
but 7.1 is a good choice.
I'm dual-booting windows 98 and Mandrake 7.1. Here's a rough outline of
what you need to do:
1. Install Windows 98 (if it's already installed skip this)
2. Run Partition Magic if you own it, or just put in the Mandrake
install CD, and go through the installation until you get
to the partition part:
3. I set up my partitions like this:
(30 GB Hard Drive)
Size Mount Point Type Descr
____ ___________ ____ __________________________
11 GB /mnt/windows VFAT I resized the windows partition
6 GB /mp3 VFAT this was a vfat partition for mp3s
so I can access them from both OS's.
Linux can read windows partitions
5 GB /usr e2fs Linux partition for "Program Files"
2 GB /home e2fs Linux partition for user profiles, etc.
4 GB / e2fs Linux partition (the rest: /etc, /var . . .)
512 K swap Linux swap partition. Roughly RAM x 2.
This is just a reference. Look at some documentation on partitioning, and
also check out the Managing Multiple Operating Systems HOWTO at:
http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/MultiOS-HOWTO.html
paul
--
___________________________________________________________________
In the year 2000 . . .
Sales of Johnson & Johnson baby shampoo will drop off dramatically
when they change their slogan from No More Tears� to No More Face�!
-- Conan O'Brien
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From: Oliver Battenfeld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Debian Woody: X-error: could not open default font 'fixed'
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 20:24:22 +0200
Hi,
I just tried to install KDE2 on my woody system, which was "X-free"
before. I installed "task-kde" which depends on the necesseray xfree86
debs. Whenever I do a "startx", I get the following error message:
===
error opening security policy file
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy
System: `/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/xkbcomp -w 1 -R/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb
-xkm -m
de -em1 "The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports:" -emp "> "
-eml
"Errors
from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server" keymap/xfree86
compiled/xfree86.xkm'
Fatal server error:
could not open default font 'fixed'
When reporting a problem related to a server crash, please send
the full server output, not just the last messages
X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).
===
I�m not sure, what the first 2 errors are about - the xfree86
documentation however says something about the above fatal error:
corrupt fonts.dir files in the font directories. I did a "mkfontdir" in
the respective directories to no use.
Any ideas ? All the necessary packages should be installed (didn�t break
any dependencies at least).
--
Ciao,
Oliver
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Help with virtuald and pop3
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 18:17:15 GMT
I have the virtual services all up and running on my system, yet cannot
seem to get pop-3 to work. when I try to login it reports back a bad
username even though the inetd is running ipop3d through the virtuald
and the user account exists.. Any ideas? (/var/spool exists). Ftp, www
both work just fine..
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Using Russian fonts?
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 18:30:09 -0000
Hello,
Can anyone help me set up my Windows ME and my AOL account so that I can
receive Russian-language emails from my friends in Kyrgyzstan?
I have enabled multi-language support on my computer, but nothing seems to
happen. I have downloaded all the fonts I had on my previous computer
where I could read Russian (so I assume some of the them are Russian-
language fonts), but when I get Russian-language messages the computer
still cannot recognize them. When I go on my Internet Explorer, I can make
a selection for koi8 under encoding, but how do I activate the kio8 for
use with AOL?
Thanks,
Heather
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Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 13:40:38 -0500
From: Paul Oliver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: XFree86 4.0.1 and Q3Arena
I was running Quake 3 Arena using XF86 3.3.6, agpgart and the UtahGLX
drivers for my Matrox G400. OpenGL worked great. Then I upgraded to
XFree86 4.0.1, and openGL was nowhere to be found. Has anyone successfully
set this up? And how did you do it? (Q3Arena under XFree86 4.0.1).
Thanks,
paul
--
___________________________________________________________________
In the year 2000 . . .
Sales of Johnson & Johnson baby shampoo will drop off dramatically
when they change their slogan from No More Tears� to No More Face�!
-- Conan O'Brien
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Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 13:45:44 -0500
From: Paul Oliver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ftp tools for linux
Te-Cheng Shen wrote:
>
> Hello
> Is there any ftp tools like WSFTP on windows platform such that you
> can download the whole directory.
>
> Best
>
> STC
I use gftp, it comes with gnome, and is very similar to wsftp, actually
it's better. (wsftp is my favorite ftp client for windows).
--
___________________________________________________________________
In the year 2000 . . .
Sales of Johnson & Johnson baby shampoo will drop off dramatically
when they change their slogan from No More Tears� to No More Face�!
-- Conan O'Brien
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From: Stuffed Crust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: rec.video.desktop,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: TV Tuner/Video Capture cards that support Win2K or Linux?
Date: 26 Oct 2000 18:50:27 GMT
In rec.video.desktop Edward Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I did not find anyting on Linux. Can you post the url? Thanks.
http://www.strusel007.de/linux/bttv/
- Pizza
--
Solomon Peachy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I ain't broke, but I'm badly bent.
Patience comes to those who wait.
...It's not "Beanbag Love", it's a "Transanimate Relationship"...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: Microsoft Linux?
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 19:00:06 GMT
On Thu, 26 Oct 2000 11:53:19 -0500, Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I am not talking about file systems. In a Microsoft dominated world,
>you may have to access web sites designed to work well only with
>Microsoft products. You may have to read word processing documents
>readable only with Microsoft products.
BTW: I can read all microsoft formats just fine w/ any microsoft software.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lew Pitcher)
Subject: Re: Mutt kills Linus.
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 19:05:40 GMT
>From the subject line, I hope this _isn't_ a story about how a stray dog of
unknown breed mauled Linus Torvalds to death ;-)
On Thu, 26 Oct 2000 17:49:35 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Full text of story at:
>
>http://www.stlnet.com/postnet/stories.nsf/ByDocID/2829695318CF7837862569
>82003872CE
>
>--
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.
Lew Pitcher
IT Consultant, Development Services
Toronto Dominion Bank Financial Group
(Opinions expressed are my own, not my employers')
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