Linux-Misc Digest #149, Volume #19 Tue, 23 Feb 99 06:13:11 EST
Contents:
Re: Zip Drive (Leif Kremkow)
Re: realplayer netscape (Matthew Blakley)
Re: linux commmands ("Scott L. Foglesong")
VC switching problem with X (Matthew Blakley)
Re: linux commmands (Steve Zinck)
Re: Compile error on Linux RedHat 5.2 - na undeclared (Aaron Elkiss)
Re: libungif.so.4 - Where can I get this file? (Gary Momarison)
swapon warning (John Thompson)
Re: Yale Alumni Bites the Dust (John Thompson)
Re: Small version of Linux ("Karsten M. Self")
Re: Possible problems with kernel 2.2.1 (Anthony Campbell)
Re: Can someone recomend an ASCII text editor for X, not X-Emacs.... (Michael Powe)
Re: Basic Bash script question (Michael Powe)
Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (William Burrow)
Re: Glibc-2.0.112 Problem. (Steve A)
Re: New Message in netscape freezes with 2.2.1 Kernel (matt)
Re: Linux book ("Scott L. Foglesong")
Chat Program (sabunimjw)
Re: (No) PPP (at all) using Zyxel external ISDN TA (Fernando Raimundo)
Re: Linux Sources (gus)
Re: New Message in netscape freezes with 2.2.1 Kernel
Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers (Michael Powe)
Sybase ODBC driver (Raymond Doetjes)
Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (Jason Clifford)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leif Kremkow)
Subject: Re: Zip Drive
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 10:00:56 +0100
based on my experience with SuSe 5.3, you don't really need a driver (as
is the case with windows...).
you just need to recompile your kernel to include support for ppa
devices (parallel port adaptor). you should find it under something like
"scsi devices" since the iomega thing behaves like scsi device. then,
all you need to do is mount the device. (mind you: zip disks are usually
/dev/sda4 if i recollect correctly).
reading -> just mount it, and then write to the mount point (e.g. /zip)
writing -> once mounted, read from the mount point (e.g. again /zip)
formatting -> err.. well, i never tried that. but to my knowledge, there
is a set of tools to deal with this (and deal with the read/write
protection too) called the "ziptools" - should be somewhere on you
distribution.
for more useful info. search the web. there are a couple of web pages
that tell you what to do exactly (i.e. how to reconfigure your kernel).
but i lost by bookmark file since i tried myself, so i forget the URLs-
sorry.
reagrds,,
L. Kremkow
Maurizio Napoli wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Where can i get a driver to be able to read, format, write on IOMEGA Zip
> drives?
>
> I am running RedHat 5.2...
>
> Thanks.
>
> Maurizio.
>
> --
> *************************************************************
> Maurizio Napoli
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *************************************************************
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From: Matthew Blakley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: realplayer netscape
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 00:56:16 -0800
Tamas Antal wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am a little disappointed with this linux version of realplayer. It's
> not even unable to use presets but unable to play anything unless I
> write the URL to "open location".
> My question: How can I achieve that it starts playing when I click to
> the address in netscape? (of course I set the application in netscape,
> so netscape starts rvplayer but then nothing happens) I tried with
> Netscape 4.07, 4.08, 4.5.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tamas
Make sure to set the app command-line as
/usr/bin/rvplayer %s
so that the URL will get passed into rvplayer.
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From: "Scott L. Foglesong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux commmands
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 01:49:52 +0000
Natanael Copa wrote:
>
> Hi all!
>
> I'm pretty new with unix think. I have spent hours with FAQ's and
> HOWTO's.
>
> But I cant find things like:
>
> How to check free disk space on filesystem (like dos chkdsk. or just the
> dir command...)
>
> how do i turn my computor off? Now I use "reboot" or just ctrl-alt-del
> and wait until linux is shut down and turn it off before lilo restarts.
> I'm shure there is a better way...
>
> Where can I find easy things like that? is there any overview list with
> the commads and a short description what they do? (for more details I
> can see the 'man' pages, i know)
>
> thanks!
> Nat
For the amount of diskspace: df. There are some nice switches for it,
like df -m, which will show you your disk space in megabytes instead of
K. You can also restrict it to a single directory, and it will show you
the disk space for the partition holding that directory.
For diskspace in a particular directory: du. A handy switch for this is
--summarize. For example, to find out the disk space used in the
directory /usr, du --summarize /usr will do the trick.
To shut down the computer: shutdown -h now. (All three). The -h means to
halt, and not reboot, and the 'now' means right now. You can also
specify a time if you want.
To find easy things like that: yes, there are tons of man pages and the
like, but you're really best off with a basic book on Linux. "Running
Linux", by Matt Welsh & Lar Kaufman (O'Reilly) is really a fine basic
book on all things Linux for the beginner. (And really, not so beginner
either, I guess.)
Look up the command 'apropos' as well: you can use it to search for
specific keywords in the 'man' pages.
There's also 'info': type info and you will go into the top level of the
info reader, which has a table of contents. Tons and tons of information
there just waiting to be grabbed. In fact, 'info' really is the modern
'man'.
Cheers--
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Scott L. Foglesong
San Francisco Conservatory of Music
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Too many notes, dear fellow, too many notes."
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From: Matthew Blakley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: VC switching problem with X
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 17:48:50 -0800
I've recently started having a problem with switching virtual consoles
(VC) when running X. Whenever I switch to a VC and then switch back to
X, my mouse acts erratically for a couple of seconds (random movement
and button presses). This only seems to happen when coming switching
back to X. This is also recent behavior and didn't happen with the base
install.
I'm running a stock RH 5.2 workstation install with the Lesstif WM
(fvwm2) and S3 X server. My mouse is a generic ps/2 on /dev/psaux with
0666 permissions (something I set recently so glqw could run non-root;
changing it back to 0664 didn't help).
Any suggestions on where to begin to fix this problem would be
appreciated.
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From: Steve Zinck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux commmands
Date: 22 Feb 1999 01:47:26 GMT
Natanael Copa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How to check free disk space on filesystem (like dos chkdsk. or just the
> dir command...)
`df`
> how do i turn my computor off? Now I use "reboot" or just ctrl-alt-del
> and wait until linux is shut down and turn it off before lilo restarts.
> I'm shure there is a better way...
man shutdown ; man halt
> Where can I find easy things like that? is there any overview list with
> the commads and a short description what they do? (for more details I
> can see the 'man' pages, i know)
http://www.linuxhelp.org
http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP (Linux Documentation Project)
> thanks!
> Nat
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aaron Elkiss)
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.perl.tk
Subject: Re: Compile error on Linux RedHat 5.2 - na undeclared
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 01:53:45 GMT
In comp.lang.perl.tk, somebody wrote:
>WF, Yee ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>: Hello all,
>
>: I was trying to compile Tk800.012 on Linux RedHat 5.2 running Perl
>: 5.004_04 on a Pentium machine and I keep getting the following error.
>: I changed the tkGlue.def as suggested by another poster as followed but
>: I still keep getting the error. Any suggestions?.
>: Thanks in advance.
>
>[...]
>
>Hi,
>this is a post I found in the news some time ago.
>Good luck
>
>Helmut
>
I compiled Tk800.012 today on Redhat 5.2 with perl 5.004_04 using the
patch; everything compiled OK but the tests failed as in the
"installation problem" post with the undefined subroutine &main. This
appears to result from something funny in the thingy returned by new
MainWindow. I couldn't say exactly what, though, as stepping through
it didn't produce anything useful. I am going to upgrade to 5.005_02;
hopefully this will fix the problem.
--
Aaron Elkiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: Gary Momarison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: libungif.so.4 - Where can I get this file?
Date: 21 Feb 1999 17:51:44 -0800
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (James H Timberlake, III) writes:
> i have redhat linux 5.2 with gnome installed and all the windowmaker
> support packages installed. when i try to install the windowmaker
> 0.51 RPM package it tells me it needs this one file. what RPM is this
> file in? i have libungif.so.3 but that isn't what it needs. also i
> need libgnome.so.0, libgnomeui.so.0, and libjpeg.so.6 in order to
> install gicq. same deal here, where can i get these from?
libungif-4.* if in any RPM yet. Or find homepage listed in
http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/graphics.html
All of them are probably available via the GNOME org. site listed in
http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/gui.html
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Look for Linux info at http://www.dejanews.com/home_ps.shtml and in
Gary's Encyclopedia at http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/index.html
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: swapon warning
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 16:21:33 -0600
Since upgrading to kernel 2.2.1 I've been seeing this
warning from swapon whenever I boot:
swapon: warning: /dev/hda6 has insecure permissions 0660,
0600 suggested
Why are permissions a concern for the swap partition? How
concerned should I be about this? Where do I change it
(fstab)? Or elsewhere?
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-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Yale Alumni Bites the Dust
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 16:29:18 -0600
Tim Moore wrote:
> > Gene Siskel of Siskel and Ebert movie review fame died today.
>
> And was good old, er ah, sorry, dead Gene Siskel compiling 2.2.1 at the
> time?
Poor guy apparently didn't read the README's...
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: "Karsten M. Self" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Small version of Linux
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 00:44:20 -0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Andy Johnson wrote:
>
> Jim Richardson wrote:
>
>
> Trinux (http://www.trinux.org) fits on 2-3 disks, but I think is primarily geared
>toward
> network management...
It is, but it also provides a very useful mechanism for adding
additional capabilities to the basic distribution.
I noticed that Trinux has a few oddities, including lack of an 'init',
making it slightly nonstandard. Still, it's a very well packaged
microdistribution.
One of the other microdistributions _is_ designed specifically for
laptop installation. See Freshmeat for a collection:
http://ma.us.mirrors.freshmeat.net/appindex/console/mini-distributions.html
--
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Welchen Teil von "Gestalt" verstehen Sie nicht?
web: http://www.netcom.com/~kmself
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anthony Campbell)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Possible problems with kernel 2.2.1
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 10:04:34 GMT
References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<7astni$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Followup-To:
On 23 Feb 1999 00:45:38 -0000, Timothy Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'd be interested to know if the problem _was_ in fact solved
>in many cases by entering a different lp? in /etc/printcap .
>
>--
>Timothy Murphy
>e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>tel: +353-1-2842366
>s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland
Was for me.
Anthony
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Moves on..." - Edward Fitzgerald (Rubaiat of Omar Khayyam)
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From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,pl.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Can someone recomend an ASCII text editor for X, not X-Emacs....
Date: 23 Feb 1999 00:15:29 -0800
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>>>>> "Artur" == Artur Hefczyc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Artur> Miernik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Can someone recomend an ASCII text editor for X, not
>> X-Emacs....
>>
>> I want it to have sophisticated functions, like syntax
>> highliting for HTML, C, and LaTeX, rectangle selecting, line
>> numbering, capitalization conversion, and so on.
>>
>> But I do not want it to be so big and load such a long time
>> like X-Emacs 2.0, and first of all do not have such stupid
>> menus and dialogs....
>>
>> The file opening dialog in X-Emacs is crazy, and also I cannot
>> select blocks of text by holding <shift> and moving the cursor.
>>
>> thanks....
Artur> I think "vim" could be good for you Tytus
Now you're just being mean. ;-)
mp
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"Three hours a day will produce as much as a man ought to write."
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From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Basic Bash script question
Date: 23 Feb 1999 00:08:11 -0800
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>>>>> "Matt" == Matt Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Matt> I am working on a script that will take a value of the
Matt> letters in a word and give me the total-ex. A=1 B=2 C=3 and
Matt> so on to Z=26, if I type in the word CLOCK-I want it to give
Matt> me the total value of each letter. I know it sounds like a
Matt> weird script-but it is actually a part of a larger
Matt> one-thanks in advance-Matt Moore
I don't believe you can do this with bash, although it does have
arrays. It would be trivial in C or most any language that allows you
to put strings into arrays.
You can, however, do it with gawk, using split(string,array,""). A
null separator will cause split() to break off the individual letters
in a word. You probably could run a small gawk script from within
your bash script. Or, possibly do your whole script with gawk.
mp
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"Three hours a day will produce as much as a man ought to write."
-- Anthony Trollope
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Burrow)
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
Date: 22 Feb 1999 01:39:21 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 21 Feb 1999 14:46:08 GMT,
NF Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Does the BSD style license seek to prevent the a commercial venture
>such as Red Hat/SuSE etc etc from making a profit from disributing
>free software? Even if it did I doubt that such a restriction would be
>enforceable. I conclude the lack of such a venture for BSD licenced
>software is not due to some enabling mechanism in the GPL, but to
>the lack of demand for such a service.
Really, I think it is for historical reasons. 386BSD was originally
a package of BSD software with a BSD kernel. Linux started as a kernel
and had to be built up. Some companies/organizations made this building
process easier by making a package. The idea was so successful, many
people are now doing it commercially and otherwise.
>Are all the possibilities of making a profit from support services etc
>available for with software which has a BSD style licence? Does
>any BSD style license contain a paragraph prohibiting charging for
>support services?
Far from it, many BSD licenced programs appear in commercial operating
systems (eg. SunOS, HP-UX, etc.).
--
William Burrow -- New Brunswick, Canada o
Copyright 1999 William Burrow ~ /\
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve A)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Glibc-2.0.112 Problem.
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 10:06:27 GMT
On Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:37:09 +0000, David Taylor
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I upgraded to glibc-2.0.112 and ended up (after 3 days) getting my
> computer to work again... However, I can't recompile the Linux kernel
> (2.2.1) [using egcs Feb08 snapshot] - it fails with undefined symbols in
> network.a
>
> Output from make follows:
.
.
.
> Now that is one hell of a lot of errors, but they are ALL referring to
> skb_put and skb_push...
>
> Anyone have ANY clue what is going on?
I messed up a glibc2 installation, and it was the presence of the
glibc2 include files further up the path than the libc5 ones that
caused a lot of problems.
The only other time I've seen those skb_ errors is when I had the
wrong version of the pppd module code.
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From: matt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: New Message in netscape freezes with 2.2.1 Kernel
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 08:43:37 +0000
Gerd Roethig wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Sun, 21 Feb 1999 23:48:22 -0700 Doug Nordwall
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Whenever I hit new message in Netscape (4.08 and 4.5), it freezes
> >netscape. This is after I updated my kernel to 2.2.1. It does not freeze
> >if I am logged in as root, but it does as any user, so I suspect that it
> >is a permission problem on a library, but I have no idea which. Perhaps
> >someone with more knowledge could give me a hand?
>
>
Sounds alot like the problem I had. The home directories were NFS mounted
and there seems to be a problem with NFS in 2.2.1 that is fixed in 2.2.2
Matt
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From: "Scott L. Foglesong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux book
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 02:16:54 +0000
Ali Fath El Alem wrote:
>
> Hi ALL!
> I am looking for some comperhensive but easy-to-read Linux text book..
> Any recommendations! Thanks.
Running Linux, by Matt Walsh and Lar Kaufman (O'Reilly).
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Scott L. Foglesong
San Francisco Conservatory of Music
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Too many notes, dear fellow, too many notes."
===============================================
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From: sabunimjw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Chat Program
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 02:20:38 GMT
Does anyone know of a CHAT program for Linux?
Jw
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fernando Raimundo)
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.ppp,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: (No) PPP (at all) using Zyxel external ISDN TA
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 11:05:21 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh) wrote:
>In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] =
(Fernando Raimundo) writes:
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>[P.f. remova '.xx' ao responder] [Please remove '.xx' when replying]
>
>I was going to send you some material but I do not send anything to
>people who do not give their return address to make it easy on me.
Wow!=20
Let me count... 1, 2... er...100... 133 keystrokes, and not counting =
mouse
clickings, just to inform that you refuse to make 3 keystrokes to help =
other
people maintain their mailbox usable.
Is this representative of the Linux community?
=46ernando Raimundo
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: gus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Sources
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 10:07:56 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kevin wrote:
>
> Hi everyone.
>
> I am a novice of Linux.
> I know that there are so many linux source codes for various applications.
> But I have no idea where they are.
> Could you please tell me which site has the linux source codes for various
> applications and device drivers.
> Please help me.
>
> Good Luck!
>
> My e-mail Accounts are :
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
That's better ;-)
Try looking in /usr/src/linux/drivers ...
the complete kernel source (if installed) will be in
/usr/src/linux-<version>. If it is not there, then have a look on your
install cd, or on ftp.kernel.org or one of it's mirrors.
As for Linux applications, the source will ost often be available at the
same place as the application itself. Otherwise, the application will
mentions somewhere where the source can be found. That is a requirement
of the GPL scheme.
Cheers
gus
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: New Message in netscape freezes with 2.2.1 Kernel
Date: 23 Feb 1999 11:00:46 GMT
Damn, I can't even get to the Kernel patch for 2.2.2... all the servers
are full!!!
- Mike
On Sun, 21 Feb 1999 08:43:37 +0000, matt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Gerd Roethig wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> On Sun, 21 Feb 1999 23:48:22 -0700 Doug Nordwall
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> >Whenever I hit new message in Netscape (4.08 and 4.5), it freezes
>> >netscape. This is after I updated my kernel to 2.2.1. It does not freeze
>> >if I am logged in as root, but it does as any user, so I suspect that it
>> >is a permission problem on a library, but I have no idea which. Perhaps
>> >someone with more knowledge could give me a hand?
>>
>>
>
>Sounds alot like the problem I had. The home directories were NFS mounted
>and there seems to be a problem with NFS in 2.2.1 that is fixed in 2.2.2
>
>Matt
>
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From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
Date: 23 Feb 1999 01:09:49 -0800
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>>>>> "Arthur" == Arthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Arthur> Jim Richardson wrote:
Arthur> There is a process in the automotive industry called
Arthur> "Failure Modes Effects and Analysis" (FMEA) where you
Arthur> consider the results of failures under common
Arthur> conditions. I haven't done one for mechanical components,
Arthur> but I have for electronic components. From that experience
Arthur> I would be fairly certain that the gas tank and the
Arthur> bracket Ford chose to leave out were subject to some
Arthur> analysis of this type - in other words, they had to know
Arthur> that loss of life would (possibly) result. This is one of
Arthur> the things you determine in FMEAs - level of criticality,
Arthur> where loss of life is the most critical (level 9 I think).
Arthur> As an automotive supplier you would not be able to sell to
Arthur> a mfg any item with level 9's on the FMEA. (The mfgs
Arthur> mandate this analysis, BTW).
The Grush - Saunby report, part of which I quoted in a previous
message. In it they determined that the cost to the company from
compensations for death and injury would be about $49 million, but the
savings by not including the safety bars would be $137 million. This
report was used by plaintiffs against Ford.
mp
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From: Raymond Doetjes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Sybase ODBC driver
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 12:04:05 +0100
Does anybody know where I can obtain a odbc driver for Sybase ASE
version 11 for Windoze?
Raymond
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Windows is a 32 bit patch to a 16 bit GUI based on a 8 bit operating
system, written for a 4 bit processor by a 2 bit company which can
not stand 1 bit of competition.
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From: Jason Clifford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 10:10:29 +0000
On 22 Feb 1999, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> I would suggest you start reading what John is saying, and turn your
> socialist idealogy off for a minute. Socialism does not apply to
> everything.
Nothing I have ever read from Linus indicates that he is a socialist. In
fact quite the reverse.
Jason Clifford
Definite Linux Systems
http://definite.ukpost.com/
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