Linux-Misc Digest #152, Volume #20 Tue, 11 May 99 13:13:07 EDT
Contents:
can't boot Linux ("M&V")
Re: How to uninstall packages? (Dev Null)
Re: Software for drawing flowcharts? (The Graphical Gnome)
Re: Locate creates page fault + core dump (Henri Brady)
Re: floppy stays read only (David Magda)
Sony,AOL, Canadian Railway ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: emulate a removable media ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
advice learning (Los)
Re: RedHat price... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Installing "glib" and "gtk" : how?? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (Andrew Carol)
Re: Xfig can't fit!! (pces)
Re: How to uninstall packages? (Stuart Miles)
Re: making linux go away ("Jan Johansson")
Tape Backup software (Wolfgang Ganzert)
Re: emulate a removable media (Uwe Bonnes)
Re: where to put libjpeg.so , libpng.so files ? (Mihaly Gyulai)
Re: resume HTTP downloads (brian moore)
Re: How to low-level format a SCSI (Remco van den Berg)
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From: "M&V" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: can't boot Linux
Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 09:37:47 -0400
Hi world,
I upgraded my computer, and now I cannot boot Linux, Red Hat.
I used to have one hard disk with 2 partitions for DOS and 2 non-dos
partitions (main and swap)
Then I installed the second HD, on which I have 2 partitions including boot
for win98, and on the old HD I have one partition for DOS and 2 nondos
partitions.
Can I boot with my old diskette (it is Red Had 4.2)? When I tried, it would
only go as far as typing "LI" (as in "LILO boot") and then freeze.
Can I upgrade to RH 5.1 without loading the current version (RH 4.2)?
What will happen if I try to install RH-5.1 on top of 4.2? will it erase my
old files or only the OS files?
Thanks a lot,
Mike.
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From: Dev Null <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: How to uninstall packages?
Date: 11 May 1999 05:49:47 GMT
> How to uninstall packages?
>I'm using RH6.0, which doesn't come with glint. I'm relatively new to UNIX,
>and I'm wondering whether or not there is a command line sequence that can
>locate a package and uninstall it.
RedHat comes with a program called RPM (it is used by other
distributions too). Read the man page for RPM using the command
man rpm
TO INSTALL:
Basically, software packaged in the RPM format is usually named
in the format "packagename-version-number.rpm". To install the
package you type in
rpm -ivh packagename-version-number.rpm
(make sure you "cd" over to the directory where the rpm package
is or else type in the complete pathname)
TO UNINSTALL
To uninstall do
rpm -e packagename
Note that to remove the package you just need just the package
name (not the filename of the package ending with *.rpm)
TO FIND OUT WHICH PACKAGE IS INSTALLED
For example to find out if emacs is installed do
rpm -q emacs
To remove emacs do
rpm -e emacs
TO GET A LISTING OF ALL PACKAGES INSTALLED ON YOUR SYSTEM
rpm -qa
>Also, is it dangerous if I just use the "rm" command to delete programs? The
>main reason that I want to avoid removing programs via that method (aside from
>that it would be time-consuming) is that I'm likely to miss certain files.
>However, I'm wondering whether or not it's bad for the system to just delete
>programs that are installed in the system without a complete uninstallation.
If you are not sure when you use the "rm" command you might
just mess something up. Using RPM is safer if you are new.
It removes all the files related to that app and will tell
you if it can't remove something. Besides, RPM maintains a
database of all apps that are installed on your system so
it is very handy for maintenance. If you are new to Linux
then I recommend RPM. In fact, if you do the rpm -qa command
you will find all the apps that were installed for you by
the RedHat installed - these were installed using RPM too!
Good luck.
Dev
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From: The Graphical Gnome <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: Software for drawing flowcharts?
Date: 11 May 1999 10:05:39 GMT
Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hello,
> What software is available in Linux to draw flowcharts? Particular,
> I want tools to do Unified Modeling ( I just want the diagram, no need
> for forward/reverse engineering, but if there exists one, I will also be
> interested in ).
>
> Thanks in advance for your advices!
Check out ARGO/UML on
http://www.ics.uci.edu/pub/arch/uml/index.html
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The Graphical Gnome ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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UDDF -> http://www.gnomehome.demon.nl/uddf/index.htm
"I die when it's time for me to die, so let me live my life, like I want to"
J. Hendrix
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From: Henri Brady <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Locate creates page fault + core dump
Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 10:14:22 -0400
No Luck. I changed the updatedb script and told it to Not include
anything under /mnt. That rules out NFS because my only NFS mount is
under /mnt. Anyone else have any ideas ?
- Henri Brady
This may be way off base, but I believe that updatedb can be configured
to keep track of remotely mounted partitions (NFSmounts ...) and a whole
bunch of other things. Check to see what you are holding in UpdateDB,
and recreate it so that it does not include the NFS mounts.
Than try again. It is only a guess, though.
Just by the way, I find "init 1; init 2" is good for fixing some things
without losing (official) uptime ;-)
gus
Henri Brady wrote:
>
> We have a RedHat Linux 5.1 server (p450, 256MB Ram, Raid 5). This
> server has been a great performer; however, a nasty little thing
> happened this AM that I have never seen before.
>
> I can run updatedb; however, every time I use the locate command I get
> "Page Fault, Core Dumped" I suspected the database was corrupt so I
> moved the updatedb database file to updatedb.old and re-ran updatedb.
> This did not fix the problem. I still get "Page Fault, Core Dump".
>
> The only thing that has recently changed is I now have an NFS mount
> pointing to an NFS share on another server.
>
> Any ideas ? I have not tried the Windows solution model (reboot)
> because I pride myself on "Uptime" :-)
>
> Thanks in advance for the help.
>
> -Henri Brady
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Magda)
Subject: Re: floppy stays read only
Date: 11 May 1999 14:15:51 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Brett Neely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[...]
>You can get additional information about mounting by reading the "mount"
>and "fstab" manual pages (i.e., "man mount" and "man fstab"
>respectively).
[...]
I don't think I made myself clear. I'm not doing a 'mount /dev/fd0'. I'm
doing like 'dd if=/mnt/cdrom/dist/some-floppy-image of=/dev/fd0' and
getting a R/O error. Also when I do 'mdel a:' from the mtools package that
deletes the floppy. Then when I put in a new floppy and do 'mdir a:' it
says the floppy is blank even though the new one has stuff on it. The
system isn't detecting a floppy change, or it is and it forgets to rescan
the drive.
--
David Magda <dmagda at ee.ryerson.ca>, 2nd Year Electrical Eng.
"Well," said Pooh, "what I like best--" and then he had to stop and think.
Because although Eating Honey was a very good thing to do, there was a
moment just before you began to eat it which was better than when you were,
but he didn't know what it was called. -A.A.Milne,The House at Pooh Corner
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Sony,AOL, Canadian Railway
Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 13:20:04 GMT
In case you haven't heard, Sony and AOL are looking to deploy Linux
in consumer products (AOL: A set-top box, Sony: nearly everything).
Also the Canadian National Railway is rolling out Linux to 100
server to serve up email, DNS, WEB pages and be proxies. This decision
was based on stability, ease of installation and maintainability
over the past 6 years of using Linux as a DNS.
Not bad, huh? That's one massive blwo to the "Linux can't do
the enterprise" brigade! Read that, D H Brown and Mindcraft!
;-)
(BTW, If you don't want to take my word for it, the links can be found
at http:://www.kieser.net/linux.html)
Brad
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: emulate a removable media
Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 13:51:54 GMT
> : I want emunlate a floppy disk or a ZIP with a file or a partition,
> : it is possible? and how ??
In fact, I want my appli think have a ZIP on the system, without ZIP.
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From: Los <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: advice learning
Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 14:43:32 GMT
Carlos m>>> I am a fairly new linux user, I am looking for soem advice
as far as resources , there's so much, I want some guidance as into what
to read and what is garbage,, I have mastering linux, linux for dummies,
and special edition using linux, But still There might be something
better,, I got thru the installation part pretty easy,, I only had
trouble with my sound card which is not supported that's all,,, Thanks,,
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Subject: Re: RedHat price...
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 15:31:26 GMT
According to Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I just checked out the price on the newest version of RedHat (6.0),
> and I see that the basic boxed set is going to sell for between
> $75-$80, to which I say, "ARE THEY OUT OF THEIR EVER-LOVING MINDS?!"
> Is there really that much new in 6.0 to justify such an extreme price
> hike?
Remember, what you are paying for is *not* the software -- the bulk of
that cost is for the 30 days on installation and technical support. A
small portion of it is production, packaging, manuals, shipping, and
profit for the retailer. To be honest, really, I can't see how they
can make any money at all at that price unless *very* few people
actually call in with technical support problems.
If you don't need support, just download it off the net or buy the CD
from cheapbytes for two bucks.
-p.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Installing "glib" and "gtk" : how??
Date: 11 May 1999 14:40:40 GMT
In his obvious haste, brian moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled thusly:
: Most likely it's either not finding X or you have an older version of
: GTK it's finding instead of your new one. (The latter one bit me until
: I figured it out.) Remove any old version of gtk, or the gtk-config
: program found won't be correct.
Or the gtk-config program can be edited to point to the correct version of
gtk, which can be a lot less painfull than uninstalling the old version.
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From: Andrew Carol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 13:05:58 -0700
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That's also something that has little to do with the
> relative merits of the two platforms or whether or
> not either are commercial ventures.
Still nobody understands. This is not about "merit". This is simply
about what people go to the trouble to obtain and use. I don't think
proprietary software is "better" or "worse". It just exists, as does
free software.
People will weigh the balance of availability, cost, features,
documentation, quality, support, etc to decide what programs they want
to run. Sometimes the Free one meets those criteria better, other
times the proprietary does.
The part many people here don't get is that each of us assign different
weights to each part of the equation. This is not religion to the
average consumer. I don't like most Microsoft products, but my wife
does. We each are quite happy to do it our own way.
That said, I think both models will surive and they will naturally
"fall into" the niches they can best survive in.
> This is the kind of gibberish that constitutes that
> unsurmountable entry barrier that requires a complely
> non-commercial product to combat.
>
> It was an assinine criticsm in 1981, it was still
> assinine in 1988 and is no less so in 1999.
I am not being critical. I am just stating reality. That doesn't mean
I like it the way it is. You seem to confuse my pointing out the
reality of how the world works with being against the goals of Free
software. I'm not.
Free software will not succeed or fail based on you and I debating it
here. It is where the rubber meets the road. Where Free software is a
compelling value to consumers, they will gladly use it. Where not,
they will line up to pay for software.
The best way to promote free software is to write and use it. Spouting
off in a ferver the failings of the proprietary model only shows this
is politics or religion to you, not simply the best value for the
consumer.
I'm sorry you take that reality so personally.
---- Andrew
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From: pces <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Xfig can't fit!!
Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 23:27:43 +0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kenny Zhu wrote:
> Hi, I need some help. I'm working on a laptop the screen is 800x600. I
> have a problem with xfig. I just can't see the bottom tool bars and some
> of the side bars below as well. Any remedies? Thanks.
Even if you move the mouse around(particularly to the bottom)? Does the
screen scroll?
If not, I think it's the virtual screen setting... no.. I know I've had
that problem
too.. I finally got my notebook to do 1024x768 by using xvidtune and lots
of tweaking.
Sorry if i didn't help much.. btw, what notebook are you using?
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From: Stuart Miles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: How to uninstall packages?
Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 16:13:49 +0100
Chris Wilson wrote:
>
> I'm using RH6.0, which doesn't come with glint. I'm relatively new to UNIX,
No, but it does come with gnorpm which is basically the Gnome version of glint.
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Alenia Marconi Systems Phone: +44 1276 63311
Views expressed are mine and not those of Alenia Marconi Systems
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From: "Jan Johansson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: making linux go away
Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 08:47:24 +0200
Just answer his question, if he wants linux removed, why not just help him
by saying
"Run the dos command FDISK /mbr"
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Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 08:21:06 +0200
From: Wolfgang Ganzert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,hk.comp.os.linux,tw.bbs.comp.linux
Subject: Tape Backup software
For the KDE window environment there is the kdat program. It allows
multiple tars on a single tape and has a GUI which is easy to use. On my
systems it does not run stable but maybe this is because I'm using KDE
1.0. Maybe with 1.1 the problem is fixed, I don't known.
Wolfgang
Ron Flory wrote:
> > I'm looking for a very easy & good DAT tape backup software.
> > Any idea?
>
> depends how fancy it needs to be. 'cat file.tar.gz > /dev/st0' works
> fine for me.
>
> ron
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From: Uwe Bonnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: emulate a removable media
Date: 11 May 1999 12:26:19 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: Hello
: I want emunlate a floppy disk or a ZIP with a file or a partition,
: it is possible? and how ??
Learn about the Loop Filesystem (man 8 mount)
Bye
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Institut fuer Kernphysik Schlossgartenstrasse 9 64289 Darmstadt
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From: Mihaly Gyulai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: where to put libjpeg.so , libpng.so files ?
Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 11:10:01 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> ...the path is included in either /etc/ld.so.conf
> or the LD_LIBRARY_PATH environment variable.
Of course I have /etc/ld.so.conf file pointing to the
mentioned directories...
Therefore I can't figure out, why this new package could not
find those files ?
Now I installed 'amaya' with a '-nodeps' option (I have RedHat Linux,
so I used an RPM package of 'amaya') and when I start it, it says :
'error in loading shared libraries'
'libjpeg.so.62: ELF file data encoding not little-endian'
What's the problem now ?
[So, I have libjpeg and libpng already installed into those directories,
that appear in /etc/ld.so.conf file.]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Subject: Re: resume HTTP downloads
Date: 11 May 1999 16:53:04 GMT
On Tue, 11 May 1999 13:01:41 +0800,
ben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hi,
>
> I am looking for a linux program that can resume http downloads,
> something like GetRight for windows. Does anyone knows where I can find
> it?
See http://linuxtoday.com/stories/5761.html for a brief rundown of some
of them. There's a few left out of that (like snarf), but it'll get you
started.
--
Brian Moore | "The Zen nature of a spammer resembles
Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | a cockroach, except that the cockroach
Usenet Vandal | is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
Netscum, Bane of Elves. Peter Olson, Delphi Postmaster
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Remco van den Berg)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: How to low-level format a SCSI
Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 17:31:44 GMT
On Tue, 11 May 1999 10:42:11 -0500, Albert Wiersch wrote:
>
>How can I low level format a SCSI drive on my remote Linux system?
>
>I don't want to have to physically go to it to do so (want to do it through
>telnet). I think the SCSI BIOS has a format utility, but I would like a
>Linux program to do it. Can't access the SCSI BIOS from here.
>
>The drive doesn't have any useful files on it right now... I would just like
>to low-level format it and then set it up as a backup drive.
>
>(Please send your reply to my email, too. Thanks!)
>
>Thanks,
>Albert
Just curious, why is a normal reformat not enough?
You know that most disks are not allowed to be low level reformatted?
-Remco
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