Linux-Misc Digest #241, Volume #20               Mon, 17 May 99 19:13:08 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Sony Vaio (marco tephlant)
  Re: SB PCI 128 under RH 6.0 (Robert Tomanek)
  SuSE 6.1 anyone? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Filesystem and Ext2 module?
  Re: A simple (reliable) browser (Aamer Nazir)
  Re: Debian: still viable? (Tim Sutherland)
  Re: Pro-Unix vs anti-WinTel (Steve Lamb)
  Re: Virtual Desktop in X386 (Michael Powe)
  Re: Sony Vaio (Marco Anglesio)
  Re: sound (Scott)
  Re: sound (Scott)
  Linux for Amiga A1200? (Dave)
  multi volume tar (tar -cM > /dev/hdb) (Paul Sullivan)
  Re: CD-R as backup device (Cees de Groot)
  Re: SuSE 6.1 anyone? (Edwin Chacon)
  glibc source
  Re: Pro-Unix vs anti-WinTel ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: SECURITY ISSUES: Single user restriction at lilo boot: ("Charles Sullivan")
  Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522) (Craig Dowell)
  Re: Modem Volume? (jason)
  Re: Redhat 6.0 - no more make ?? (Stuart R. Fuller)
  Re: RedHat price... (Explanations) (Stuart R. Fuller)
  Re: Power Fail Disk Corruption in Linux? (was: MS Challenges Linux (Stuart R. Fuller)
  Re: CompuServe? (Stuart R. Fuller)
  Re: Eudora-like mail program for linux? (With Filters etc) (Steve Lamb)
  Re: telnet and script (Roger Kemp)
  The Vi Lovers Home Page ("Thomer M. Gil")
  Re: mount linux drive from seperate linux box (brian moore)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (marco tephlant)
Subject: Re: Sony Vaio
Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 19:12:20 +0100

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>During a restless day
> hobnobbing in comp.os.linux.misc, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (marco
> tephlant) quacked like a little penguin as (s)he typed on the keyboard
> like so:
> No really. I promise you. If you're in a major city you can see
> japanese tourists loading up on japanese electronics, their own brands
> b/c their distribution system is designed for inefficiency, unneeded
> redundancy, but for high human labor and employment. Check out the NY
> Times archives for examples, I've often come across reported features
> on the subject. It makes you feel great to live in the land of milk
> and honey. No? Oh, yes! Take it easy.

Land of milk and honey?  No I'm in the UK
I just find it hard to believe that anywhere is more expensive than the 
UK for anything!  Ah,  well my quest for cheap sexy electronics good 
continues unabated.

-- 
Marco

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From: Robert Tomanek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: SB PCI 128 under RH 6.0
Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 18:45:08 +0200

Compile your kernel w/support for Ensoniq PCI

        Robert

Jay wrote:
> 
> How do I get SoundBlaster PCI 128 card to work under RedHat 6.0?


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: SuSE 6.1 anyone?
Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 19:50:56 GMT

Is there anyone willing to lend me their SuSE CDs to make a copy? I
purchased version 5.3, but I would like to upgrade. Of course I will pay
shipping. I live in Pennsylvania.

Thanks,
bf


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: Filesystem and Ext2 module?
Date: 17 May 99 19:54:16 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ju Wang wrote:
>Hi all,
>I have trouble when config the ext2 as modules, the kernel just panic,
>is there any
>restriction about file system config?
>
In general, the filesystem and disk controller drivers
for your boot partition must be compiled in.  There are
ways around this (initrd), but it is generally easier
to just compile them in.

Just about anything else may be compiled as a module.

>Beside, does some one know how to make kernel support a new file system,
>I think somewhere of the kernel configuration file must be modifed to
>integrat a new filesysmte. any information will be appreciated.
>
>Thanks
>-Ju
>

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From: Aamer Nazir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A simple (reliable) browser
Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 11:59:08 -0800

Okay, I would get the fonts.  But the problem with this version is that it
CRASHES a lot.
Even with lots of memory and swap space..
Thanks,
Aamer Nazir



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Sutherland)
Subject: Re: Debian: still viable?
Date: 17 May 1999 20:11:31 GMT

In article <7hlfu9$c28$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Cameron Spitzer wrote:
>NIS + Shadow passwords = system won't boot.

Please investigate and report this bug. See bugs.debian.org.

>xinetd never has worked, what's it still doing in there? 

Works for me.

>dwww finds less and less info each time, though it was a good idea.
>I guess usability is no fun, or people would do it.

Are you by chance, using the "unstable" (potato) rather than "stable" (slink)
version?

-- 
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                -- Wanda, "A Fish Called Wanda"

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Lamb)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Pro-Unix vs anti-WinTel
Date: 17 May 1999 19:59:36 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 16 May 1999 10:32:46 +0200, Peter Mutsaers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>    SL>     That is my point though, the tree is, by design, out of
>    SL>     date.  The last
>    SL> time I checked the ports tree FTPs the source directly from
>    SL> the author's site.  With a few thousand programs in the ports

>As any packaging system is always out of date.

    Not in the manner I am describing.  When one of the authors changes
something on his site, ports is out of date.  Debian's system, OTOH, is not
affected by that.  Sure, the program is out of date, but you can still
download the package itself and install it.  From what I understand not
everything in ports is stored in any central repository.  That means the
index, by design, is out of date with the contents.  Is that clearer?

-- 
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         ICQ: 5107343          | main connection to the switchboard of souls.
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Subject: Re: Virtual Desktop in X386
From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 17 May 1999 13:44:17 -0700

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>>>>> "Matthew" == ay-soterr  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

    Matthew> Howdy..  Alright.. here's the deal :: I'm running RedHat
    Matthew> 5.1 on a Fujitsu lifebook series notebook.. I've gotten
    Matthew> all the X configurations to run X windows, but when I run
    Matthew> it, it requires a virtual desktop which has twice as big
    Matthew> a pixel setting as my screen -- so the screen mode is set
    Matthew> at 800 X 600 and the virtual desktop must be at 1600 X
    Matthew> 1200.. So not only do I get four virtual desktop screens,
    Matthew> but each one takes four screens worth to scroll around to
    Matthew> the next one.  I would ideally like to reduce this to 800
    Matthew> X 600 so that each virtual desktop fits in my screen, but
    Matthew> I've been having problems doing that.  When I go into
    Matthew> XF86Config and change the Virtual setting of the screen
    Matthew> to 800 X 600 rather than 1600 X 1200, X windows loads but
    Matthew> everything is blacked out except the icons -- it's really
    Matthew> weird.  Because the icons are still active, I can tell
    Matthew> that the desktop is shrunk to the size of my screen, it's
    Matthew> just that I can't do anything because I can't
    Matthew> differentiate between different windows and such.. If
    Matthew> anyone understands the problem I'm having, I would
    Matthew> greatly appreciate a hand.. Thanks!

It sounds like the problem might be with your Modelines.  If you can
start an xterm, then run xvidtune.  That will allow you to change
settings on the fly.  Also, try C-A-<keypad +> -- that switches
modes.

mp

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco Anglesio)
Subject: Re: Sony Vaio
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 18:28:56 GMT

On Mon, 17 May 1999 04:32:03 GMT, Mr. Fabulous <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>No really. I promise you. If you're in a major city you can see
>japanese tourists loading up on japanese electronics, their own brands
>b/c their distribution system is designed for inefficiency, unneeded
>redundancy, but for high human labor and employment. Check out the NY

I have trouble believing that; on the other hand, wholesale (and hence
retail) pricing schemes are very receptive to the price that the market
will bear and the competition in any given market. For example,
pharmaceuticals produced at the same plant but destined for the caribbean
or for africa are much cheaper than those destined for use in North
America. 

Computer-wise, toshiba notebooks are (or were) much cheaper in the US
than in Canada, even after accounting for currency differences. At one
point, they were half again as expensive *after* currency conversion.

I wouldn't be surprised that even Japanese-made consumer goods would be
more expensive in Japan if the Japanese market dictated that they be. I'd
be surprised that they weren't; can you imagine a wholesaler or retailer
handing over money for nothing, perhaps?

marco

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From: Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.kde
Subject: Re: sound
Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 20:21:30 GMT

In article <7hn4nq$353$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> How do I enable sound in Linux? I have Mandrake 5.2 (=Redhat 5.2) with
> compiled kernel 2.2.5 and KDE 1.1, and also on the same computer SuSE
> 5.3 with kernel 2.0.35 and KDE 1.0. Neither OS has ever made the
> slightest sound. (Sound is fine under Win95. NT4 is silent too.)

Had a similar problem under same distributions -- I've got an old P133
(from 1996) and suspect you have a similar issue.

The problem is that Mandrake/RedHat include a free sound module called
"OSS" -- open sound system? -- that runs as a loadable module.  You
configure OSS through sndconfig (if you haven't tried that yet, do so).

In my case, I had an unsupported sound card (Ensoniq SoundScape VIVO, to
be precise).  The commercial version of OSS ($50!!) supports it; I
downloaded the demo (http://www.opensound.com/ I think) and proved it.

So you need the module which will support your sound card.
Additionally, if it's a PnP, you may need to start up to DOS and enable
the sound card under DOS (which sets IRQ/DMA/memory address/etc.) and
then start Linux with Loadlin (do NOT reboot -- you want the sound card
settings to remain the same).  You'll only need to do that once.

BTW -- the commercial OSS didn't require that I use Loadlin; it just
mysteriously worked.

Scott


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From: Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.kde
Subject: Re: sound
Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 20:21:34 GMT

In article <7hn4nq$353$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> How do I enable sound in Linux? I have Mandrake 5.2 (=Redhat 5.2) with
> compiled kernel 2.2.5 and KDE 1.1, and also on the same computer SuSE
> 5.3 with kernel 2.0.35 and KDE 1.0. Neither OS has ever made the
> slightest sound. (Sound is fine under Win95. NT4 is silent too.)

Had a similar problem under same distributions -- I've got an old P133
(from 1996) and suspect you have a similar issue.

The problem is that Mandrake/RedHat include a free sound module called
"OSS" -- open sound system? -- that runs as a loadable module.  You
configure OSS through sndconfig (if you haven't tried that yet, do so).

In my case, I had an unsupported sound card (Ensoniq SoundScape VIVO, to
be precise).  The commercial version of OSS ($50!!) supports it; I
downloaded the demo (http://www.opensound.com/ I think) and proved it.

So you need the module which will support your sound card.
Additionally, if it's a PnP, you may need to start up to DOS and enable
the sound card under DOS (which sets IRQ/DMA/memory address/etc.) and
then start Linux with Loadlin (do NOT reboot -- you want the sound card
settings to remain the same).  You'll only need to do that once.

BTW -- the commercial OSS didn't require that I use Loadlin; it just
mysteriously worked.

Scott


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From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux for Amiga A1200?
Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 21:45:31 -0700

So is there a release/port of Linux I can download and run on an
Amiga1200 with a 500 mg hard drive?
I'm keen to try.
MAil me
Thanks
Dave

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From: Paul Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: multi volume tar (tar -cM > /dev/hdb)
Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 22:32:41 +0200

Hi,

I've looked in all the HOWTO's I can find, and don't seem to be able to
find any help with this, can anyone help via email (please note
anti-spam measure: _at_) or posting?

If I want to backup a directory structure that is larger than 100Mb (IE
the capacity of 1 Zip disk) can I say tar -cM > /dev/hdb if /dev/hdb is
my zip drive?

The first disk works fine, and tar prompts me to change the media, but
the second volume is written to a file called "-" in my root directory.
There is no activity on the .Zip drive when tar write the 2nd volume.

If the backup is less than 100Mb the above command works fine, and I can
extract the resulting archive 100%.  

Any help appreciated,

Regards
Paul Sullivan

psull_at_gis.co.za

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From: Cees de Groot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CD-R as backup device
Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 20:55:02 GMT

In article <7hp49e$cpk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  I wrote:
> - Write multiple tracks, don't "fix" the CD. Only usable in a CD-R(W)

Just tried it, and it seems to work OK. You want cdar for this (see
 http://ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk/~pdw/cdar/), it helps with reading back the
tracks. Basically:

% cdrecord -blank=fast (for a RW)
% cdar -c .... | cdrecord -multi -nofix
% cdar -c .... | cdrecord -multi -nofix
  (repeat ad lib, one for each incremental backup)
when the disk is nearly full (capacity - 15Mb):
% cdrecord -fix
this'll close the session left open all the time. cdar can read the
tracks back. I _guess_ you can read the tracks back somehow when the
fixation fails, and I'll surely test that before relying on this for my
incremental backups :-)



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From: Edwin Chacon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: SuSE 6.1 anyone?
Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 13:34:43 -0700

yeah...i'll send you mine...as soon as Suse 7.0 comes out

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Is there anyone willing to lend me their SuSE CDs to make a copy? I
> purchased version 5.3, but I would like to upgrade. Of course I will pay
> shipping. I live in Pennsylvania.
>
> Thanks,
> bf
>
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: glibc source
Date: 17 May 1999 21:30:57 GMT

Could anybody tell me where to view/download glibc
source codes? Can I modify and recompile the lib?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Pro-Unix vs anti-WinTel
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 21:30:56 GMT

Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: On 16 May 1999 10:32:46 +0200, Peter Mutsaers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
        >snip<
:>As any packaging system is always out of date.
: 
: Not in the manner I am describing.  When one of the authors changes
: something on his site, ports is out of date.  Debian's system, OTOH, is not
: affected by that.  Sure, the program is out of date, but you can still
: download the package itself and install it.  From what I understand not
: everything in ports is stored in any central repository.  That means the
: index, by design, is out of date with the contents.  Is that clearer?

        The only files not mirrored at ftp.freebsd.org are ones that have
        license or other legal restrictions governing redistribution, such
        as 128 bit SSL Netscape.

        If you have an example of a current port that does not have a
        mirrored copy, please let us know.  If not, shut the fuck up with
        your FUD bullshit.

-- 
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                                        Pizza......for the body.
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From: "Charles Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.security,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: SECURITY ISSUES: Single user restriction at lilo boot:
Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 17:40:10 -0400

If booting first from C:, then A:, what would happen if the "hacker"
disconnected the power
plug from the hard drive, booted from floppy, then replaced the plug on the
hard drive.

Murni & Hamid wrote in message
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Stephan M. Ott // OKDesign oHG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> A better way would be disable the floppy in the bios, then
>> password-protect the bios. When doing it this way, the machine will start
>> up again and go online, but the system cannot be started from floppy.
>
>A much better way is to change your bootup sequence rather than
>disabling the floppy. Instead of reading A: and then C:, do it the
>reverse, C: and then A:. Modern BIOS should have this feature. And
>surely password protect the BIOS setup. The ultimate way is to install a
>diskless X server and let your Linux machine locked inside a secured
>room.
>
>--
>Murni Mahmud & Family
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Craig Dowell)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522)
Date: 17 May 1999 21:38:40 GMT

>> Literacy in the US before public education was instituted during the
>> progressive era was under 50%.  Today it is 96%.
>
>89% of all statistics are made up on the spot.  Do you have references
>for these numbers?

73.1415926535818% of all references are to statistics that were made up on 
the spot for a different reason.

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From: jason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Modem Volume?
Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 18:04:02 -0400

Jason Bond wrote:
> 
> Is there any easy way to change the volume of the modem (when dialing,
> connecting, etc.)?  Thanks much,


It never fails to amuse me -- since I've been perusing the comp.os.linux.*
groups, it seems like similar questions come in bunches.  Anyone noticed
that?

Anyway, I saw the answer this morning in the hardware group -- just add
'm0' to your init string before you dial.  My understanding is that:

m0 turns off speaker
l0 turns speaker volume off
l1-l3 control volume of speaker.

So you'd do:

atm0dt5551212

for instance.  Caveat -- I haven't tried it yet, but I trust the guys in the
other newsgroup.  :-)

Hope this helps,
-jason

(to reply via email, make the appropriate substitution in my email address)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stuart R. Fuller)
Subject: Re: Redhat 6.0 - no more make ??
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 22:00:06 GMT

Christiaan Bouter ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: I have done a clean install of redhat 6.0 and now
: i find that, after extracting a tgz file i do:
: ../configure  - that goes well
: and then i do:  make
: and then i get all sorts of errors, mostly something
: like can't find kmenubar.h or similar.
: I did not have any problems in redhat 5.2
: 
: What am i doing wrong ??

What you're doing wrong is not providing information so that people can help
you.  "all sorts of errors" and "something like..." is not useful
troubleshooting information.  A log of the build process that fails IS useful.

        Stu

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stuart R. Fuller)
Subject: Re: RedHat price... (Explanations)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 22:00:06 GMT

Mr. Fabulous ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: During a restless day hobnobbing in comp.os.linux.misc,
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Smoogen) quacked like a little penguin as
: (s)he typed on the keyboard like so:
: 
: > Ok here are the reasons I know of for a "price hike" on the main boxed
: > set:
: 
: OK. Respectfully: When all the rationalizations are tallied in my
: head, I am jarred by the whopping $80.00 price for the RH official
: boxed set, for something that inherently is free software.

The software is free.  You are welcome to build your own distribution, test it
to have some reasonable sense that it works, create an installation system,
write and print a manual for people to read, package it all up, convince
retailers to carry it (and, they don't work for free!), provide bug fixes,
etc.

Remember, the software is free.  You're just paying Redhat to put it all
together for you.

And, if you still don't like paying for it, download it from the net, borrow
it from a friend, pay someone $2 for it, etc.

Bitching, however, about paying $80 for the Redhat V6.0 distribution will get
you nowhere and just creates a lot of noise in the newsgroups.

        Stu

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stuart R. Fuller)
Subject: Re: Power Fail Disk Corruption in Linux? (was: MS Challenges Linux
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 22:00:06 GMT

Peter Englmaier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: It does regularily update. That is done by the 'update' program
: which is run von /etc/inittab. That is why you may hear a regular
: click from the hard disk during normal use. You can specify the delay
: time
: or stop it completely if you want to. For laptops there is 
: a special version to minimize disk access. You may even call
: the program 'sync' to force an update after some critical
: operation. In addition, the logger program (syslogd) makes a 'fsync'
: after writing a new message. This is often turned of to increase
: performance but on by default. 

'sync' != 'fsync'.

'sync' is used to flush all dirty cache buffers to disk.

'fsync' is used to flush a specific file's buffers in a specific program to
disk.  'syslogd' uses 'fsync' to flush its log files, but that does NOT flush
other cache buffers.

        Stu

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stuart R. Fuller)
Subject: Re: CompuServe?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 22:00:05 GMT

Bruce Schultz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: On Sat, 15 May 1999 13:56:10 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: >In an installation of SuSE Linux I saw a reference to Compuserve being
: >used as an ISP when setting up PPP. I'm not currently on SuSE but would
: >like to use Compuserve if possible. At the moment I'm unable to connect
: >due to chap secrets error. If anyone out there in Linux Land is using
: >Compuserve and would like to share examples of chap setup or other
: >critical considerations please email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: >
: >Ray Seiffert
: 
: You don't use chap to connect to Compuserve.  You set up a chat script
: that does the following:
: 
: send an initial carriage return ('/r')
: respond to the "Hostname:" prompt with 'CIS'.  
: respond to the User ID: prompt with 'XXXX.XXXX/GO:PPPCONNECT' 
: respond to 'Password:' prompt with your password.  
: 
: (XXXXX.XXXX is your Compuserver ID.

Also, you can reduce the number of prompts and responses by noting that
CompuServe will accept the password on the same line as the UserID and GO
word:

        User ID: xxxxx,xxxx/GO:PPPCONNECT\my*password
        
In other words, put a "\" after the GO word, then your password.

        Stu

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Lamb)
Crossposted-To: comp.mail.misc
Subject: Re: Eudora-like mail program for linux? (With Filters etc)
Date: 17 May 1999 22:27:35 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 17 May 1999 13:08:55 -0700, Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Right, you chose to use something else.  If you had not made that
>choice, you'd have procmail installed.  Thanks for making my case.

    And thank you for proving mine about preteniousness.  Actually, I don't
use procmail at all because my MUA does the filtering, not MTA or an arbitrary
delivery agent.  Again, I stress that making a base assumption about what a
person does and does not have on their system is rude, inconsiderate, only
adds to confusing and paints you as a prick.  Good day.  *plonk*

-- 
         Steve C. Lamb         | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your
         ICQ: 5107343          | main connection to the switchboard of souls.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roger Kemp)
Subject: Re: telnet and script
Date: 17 May 1999 21:55:23 GMT

Kurt C. Anderson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: i need to start a telnet session and then run a script file that resides
: locally, but emulates keystrokes at the remote location.  is this possible?
: 

You might be able to use 'expect' to solve your problem.  I use such a 
script to connect to my account on another machine:

#-----Start of my .script
#!/usr/bin/expect --

spawn telnet fire.wall             

expect -re "User: "
send "MyAccountName\r"
interact
#--end of script

You can have as many lines of expect/send pairs as you like.  The interact
line at the end essentially ends the script and allows me to start typing
away.  I also alias the script as ="expect /home/acct/.script" so
that it is convenient to execute from any working directory.

-- 

Roger Kemp         
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: "Thomer M. Gil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: nl.comp.os.linux
Subject: The Vi Lovers Home Page
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 00:17:29 +0200

Hi,


Please visit the Vi Lovers Home Page. Vi is *the* editor under Unix, Windows
95/98/NT and many other operating systems.

The Vi Lovers Home Page:
http://www.cs.vu.nl/~tmgil/vi/vi.html

The Vi Lovers Home Page contains much Vi related info and links to:
- Many downloadable Vi versions for a large range of operating systems,
- Vi FAQs,
- Tutorials,
- FTP sites,
- jokes and the like,
- and much more.

The Vi Lovers Home Page:
http://www.cs.vu.nl/~tmgil/vi/vi.html

Thomer M. Gil



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Subject: Re: mount linux drive from seperate linux box
Date: 17 May 1999 22:09:55 GMT

On Mon, 17 May 1999 11:18:20 -0700, 
 Edwin Chacon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> try this...\\\\linux\\dev\\hda2....i heard somewhere..that you have to do some
> weird..thing..and use...4-\ for the computer name and 2-\ for dir or share
> name...but seems to work here at work..try it..

Icky.

Why not just:

mount linux:/usr2/archived /archived

Much simpler, eh?

You can add the -t nfs if you want, but mount is smart enough to spot
the : and figure that out.

> Tom Elsesser wrote:
> 
> > I have 2 linux machines, a RH5.2 named "linux" that serves as a
> > mail,ppp, dns, and file server, and a caldera1.3 named "linux2" that I
> > am using as a desktop machine. I have a directory called "archived"
> > which is /usr2/archived mounted as /dev/hda2 on the RH box that I
> > would like to mount on the caldera box. Using the sytax "mount -f ext2
> > //linux/dev/hda2 /archived2" barfs back "special device
> > //linux/dev/hda2 does not exist".  I tried many variations of this,
> > with no success. What do I need to make this work?

-- 
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      Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker     |  a cockroach, except that the cockroach
      Usenet Vandal               |  is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
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