Linux-Misc Digest #241, Volume #26 Sun, 5 Nov 00 20:13:01 EST
Contents:
Re: pump and AT&T Broadband (Rod Smith)
Re: please help! relaying error (ATITUS)
Re: Adding NIC + scanner ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Another Desktop (Garry Knight)
Re: Looking for "clean disk" utility (Garry Knight)
Re: How to install Sun's Star Office ? (Carl Fink)
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WEB ("STREAKS")
Re: How to install Sun's Star Office ? (Stephen Marotta)
Re: Password authentications (Dustin Puryear)
Re: Communication Server like Exchange on Linux? (E J)
Antisocial KDE2 behavior (jeff)
Re: How to install Sun's Star Office ? (Garry Knight)
Re: KDE vs GNOME: specific issues ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Mandrake install problems ("CSNI")
Re: CMI8330 SOUNDCHIP ("LittleFish")
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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: pump and AT&T Broadband
Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 23:15:44 GMT
[Posted and mailed]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> I a running RH 7.0. I just installed it and was able to get connect
> to the internet, after some work. I then rebooted and now it won't
> connect. I have a 3Comm external modem with little indicators. For
> these indicators I can tell the computer is sending information a
> couple of times. I can see the NIC card go up and down (by the green
> light on the modem).
>
> I learned from a couple of HOWTOs about the -h foobar on the end of
> pump. I added it to the ifcfg-eth0. Any one have any ideas when I am
> doing wrong.
Immediately after a failed attempt to use pump, try issuing the
following commands:
/sbin/ifconfig eth0
/sbin/route -n
tail /var/log/messages
The first shows the status of eth0 (change this if you've got more than
one NIC and are using something other than eth0 for the cable modem
connection). If all is well, you'll see a status message and an IP
address (called "inet addr"). If you get nothing at all, it's probably a
matter of a driver for the Ethernet card not being loaded.
The second command shows the route that's set for the system. Assuming
you got an IP address when you tried ifconfig, it's possible that the
routing table is wrong. You should see a line along these lines in the
output:
0.0.0.0 192.168.45.1 0.0.0.0 UG 1 0 0 eth0
This shows the default route (the first 0.0.0.0) going through the
gateway system at 192.168.45.1 (yours will be a different number, of
course).
The third command should show you pump's status messages when it tried
to obtain an IP address from the DHCP server. There may be clues there
about what went wrong.
--
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux & multi-OS configuration
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From: ATITUS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: please help! relaying error
Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 23:12:53 GMT
Peter,
Thanks for your suggestions. Unfortunately, I did not get a chance to
try them. I went back to run the application again and it worked! Has
ever since... I did absolutely nothing to fix the problem. The company
did make some changes to the network though... said there was internal
routing problems. (although it never affected any applications before)
Oh well...
Aaron
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Adding NIC + scanner
Date: 5 Nov 2000 23:15:26 GMT
Paul Floyd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: On 5 Nov 2000 13:38:19 GMT, Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:>Paul Floyd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:>: On 4 Nov 2000 18:35:06 GMT, Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:>: It does all that, except that lilo fails. For some reason Linux now
:>Well, lilo can't fail. It just makes a boot sector and copies it to the
:>first few bytes of the disk. Do you mean that the sector it creates
:>is incorrect in some way? That's perfectly possible. And trivial.
: "can't fail"
: root@bisanne:/home/paulf/ > lilo
: Warning: /dev/sda1 is not on the first disk
: [fair enough, but I've corrected for that in my lilo.conf]
: Device 0x0800: Invalid partition table, 1st entry
: 3D address: 1/1/0 (32)
: Linear address: 32/1/0 (63)
: That's what I call a failure.
No, that's not a failure. It tells you there's something wrong with the
table and exits successfully in a planned program exit. That's not a
failure and nobody would call it that. It's the correct action to take.
(and yes, I chose my words carefully with just this in mind when I
responded to you).
_You_ now should take action to fix the table, having been advised.
Again, I'm pretty sure you've simply flipped between normal and lba
modes in the bios. Put the bios back to lba mode.
: Lilo/fdisk on my linux system is broken.
?? fdisk/sfdisk/cfdisk should be able to write anything you care to tell
them to write to the table.
:>Shrug. Use the keyword "linear" in lilo.conf. That'll tell lilo to set
:>the boot sector up for a bios call using the count of sectors from the
:>beginning of the disk, instead of a bios c/h/s call.
: I have "linear" in lilo.conf.
But you are taking the mickey, surely? Any configuration is invalid if
you persist in maintaining an invalid machine state. You can add anything you
like to lilo.conf and lilo will still exit telling you that the partition
table is all fouled up.
I'd wipe the table (after having noted where your partitions are) and
create it again. I'd even be tempted to use gnu parted to search for
the partitions.
:>It looks as though you have flipped the bios to reporting a "normal" (i.e.
:>untranslated) geometry for the disk, while before you had it set up for
:>"lba" translation. Flip it back.
: No, the BIOS reports CHS 1110, 64, 32. PM under Windows reports the
Why do you say no? That looks like normal mode to me, though 64 heads is
more than usual ! What does lba mode say?
: same. DFSEE under OS/2 reports the same. I wouldn't mind betting that
: both Solaris and FreeBSD fdisks report the same.
Of course. So what? Change it to lba mode.
: Linux fdisk is reporting 8709, 64, 32.
And that's also normal mode. Just a different cylinder count.
: No prizes for guessing which one is wrong.
There are no prizes, and no, it is not wrong. It just reports what the
bios (or you!) told the kernel at bootup. No more, no less. 1110
cylinders would be, uh ~ 1000 * 32 * 32 * 1K = 1GB? I'm sure you have
more disk than that! 8709 cylinders would be about 8 or 9GB. (I'm
counting 512 bytes a sector, 32 sectors per track, 64 plates, and
8 or 1 K tracks). I presume that's right.
:>: Looking at the partition with Partition Magic 4 (Windows) the only thing
:>: it doesn't like is the type 5 extended partition (Windows prefers type F
:>
:>I believe 85 is the correct compromise. Change it.
: Are you mad? Does any OS other than Linux recognize type 85 extended
: partitions?
No. Isn't that the point?
:>Yes. It occurs to me that you are trying to boot from a partition in an
:>place unaccessable to bios calls. I.e. above 1023 cylinders.
:>But lilo told you that, no? The correct response is to use a different
:>bios call, or to tell the bios to use lba mode.
: Err, no. I'm booting Linux from well below 1023 cylinders (the drive is
: only 1110 cylinders). My linux /boot partition is the first on the disk.
Are you sure? I find that quite untenable. Here is my 1.7GB disk:
Disk /dev/hda: 16 heads, 63 sectors, 3390 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 1008 * 512 bytes
As you can see, each cylinder contains 16*63 = 1008 half kilobyte
sectors. That's 0.5M. I have 2.4K cylinders, so 1.7GB.
You have cylinders of 64*32 = 2048 half K sectors, or 1MB each.
If you had only 1110 of them, as you maintain, you would have a disk of
size 1.1GB.
: Incidentally, anyone interested in exploring partitons and file systems
: (especially FAT HPFS and NTFS) should give it a go.
:>: That's for my 3G ext2 partition in a DOS extended partition.
:>
:>Eh? Just show your table. There's no need to go on about it.
: Here is the incorrect version from Linux fdisk
: fdisk /dev/sda: 64 heads, 32 sectors, 8709 cylinders
: Units = cylinders of 2048 * 512 bytes
: Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
: /dev/sda1 * 1 16 16033+ 83 Linux
: Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary:
: phys=(1, 254, 63) should be (1, 63, 32)
Yes, it's clear. You set it up for an lba translation originally.
You can see that it originally was aimed at a cylinder boundary ending
near head 255, which is typical of a translation (255 heads is a
common translation).
: /dev/sda2 16 667 666697+ 7 HPFS/NTFS
: Partition 2 does not end on cylinder boundary:
: phys=(84, 254, 63) should be (84, 63, 32)
: /dev/sda3 667 1671 1028160 16 Hidden FAT16
: Partition 3 does not end on cylinder boundary:
: phys=(212, 254, 63) should be (212, 63, 32)
: /dev/sda4 1671 8708 7205152+ 5 Extended
: Partition 4 does not end on cylinder boundary:
: phys=(85, 254, 63) should be (85, 63, 32)
: /dev/sda5 * 1671 4676 3076416 83 Linux
: /dev/sda6 * 4676 6692 2064321 7 HPFS/NTFS
: /dev/sda7 * 6692 8708 2064321 7 HPFS/NTFS
OK. Just view this in sectors (type "u" in fdisk). Note down the
offsets. I think you should be fine if you just go into the bios
and set the translation to "lba". But you can also go straight
into expert mode in fdisk, tell it how many heads and sectors per
track you have (luckily the number of cylinders makes no difference),
wipe the table, and reenter all of the data, using the sector numbers.
Peter
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From: Garry Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Another Desktop
Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 23:31:53 +0000
On Sun, 05 Nov 2000, Joydeep wrote:
>Hello All,
>
>I am having GNOME desktop on my RH6.2. I would like to have some
>features that KDE is having. Is it possible to keep 2 desktops and
>switch between them? If so, how do I do that? Alternatively how do I
>remove GNOME and install KDE?
Start up the Gnome Control Centre (on the main menu, click Programs, then
Settings to get to it. In the section for your window manager (if you're
running Sawmill or Sawfish, that is) click the Workspaces item. You can have
several workspaces and each can have a virtual desktop that is several physical
desktops wide and deep.
When you've configured your workspaces, click Shortcuts and you can define the
key presses you'll use to switch between them.
--
Garry Knight
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Garry Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.security.unix
Subject: Re: Looking for "clean disk" utility
Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 23:36:37 +0000
On Sun, 05 Nov 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Can anyone direct me to a Linux utility like (Windoze) "Clean Disk";
>essentially a utility that writes (and re-writes) unused space in the
>filesystem?
I've got diskerase, but that works on entire partitions or entire drives. Is
that any use to you?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Fink)
Subject: Re: How to install Sun's Star Office ?
Date: 5 Nov 2000 23:20:51 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 05 Nov 2000 21:44:50 GMT Arctic Storm
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I went to Sun's web site and downloaded the file
>so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en.bin.
>According to the Sun's instructions, I simply type the name of the file,
>but when I do that, I get an error that no such command exists.
You didn't read the instructions carefully. In non-DOS systems, the
command shell will only run programs that are in a special listing
of directories called the "PATH", which does not include your current
directory on your system. If you typed
./so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en.bin
and Enter, that might work. (The period "." means "this directory".)
You might have to use the chmod command to inform your system that
this is a program.
chmod u+x so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en.bin
(Both of the above commands would be easier to type if you knew about
completion, BTW.)
--
Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Manager, Dueling Modems Computer Forum
<http://dm.net>
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From: "STREAKS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,es.alt.sexo,es.rec.musica,teleline,teleline.empleo,teleline.informatica,teleline.internet,teleline.juegosonline,teleline.ocio
Subject: NUEVO SITE DE METAL EN EL QUE PODRAS INSERTAR TUS MP3 Y LOGO CON UN LINK A TU
PAGINA WEB
Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 00:09:40 GMT
http://come.to/streaks
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From: Stephen Marotta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to install Sun's Star Office ?
Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 19:03:48 -0500
Arctic Storm wrote:
> How to install Sun's Star Office ?
> I went to Sun's web site and downloaded the file
> so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en.bin.
> According to the Sun's instructions, I simply type the name of the file,
> but when I do that, I get an error that no such command exists.
> Any help would be appreciated
First thing to check... Are you putting a "./" in front of the command?
If you don't, it will just look in your path, which does not include ".".
Second thing... is the execution bit enabled on the file? Just to be
sure, do a "chmod +x <filename>". But I really think that the problem is
because you're just typing in the "filename", not "./filename".
/* Steve */
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dustin Puryear)
Subject: Re: Password authentications
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 00:08:58 GMT
On Fri, 03 Nov 2000 19:18:22 GMT, Bradley J. Bartram
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Actually, I would like to eliminate Microsoft from our office totally.
>
>I'm simply looking for functionality similar to a PDC, basically central
>authentication and control rather than local authentication.
>
>Our network currently has NT, but again, it is something I would like to get
>away from as there are no applications currently running that a *nix server
>couldn't do more efficiently.
Look into NIS.
Regards, Dustin
--
Dustin Puryear <$email = "dpuryear"."@usa.net";>
Integrate Linux Solutions into Your Windows Network
- http://www.prima-tech.com/integrate-linux
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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Communication Server like Exchange on Linux?
Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 16:18:30 -0800
How about Netscape/iPlanet? You have to purchase the Netscape Calender
server to set up your meeting, scheduling, etc for your group.
Another is HP OpenMail.
Weber wrote:
> Hallo,
>
> does anyone know a stable running free program for linux
> that is comparable to exchange server?
> I mean not only eMail, but also meetings, scheduling and so on...
>
> Also a Web based Solution is great welcome.
>
> Thanks for any hints
>
> hans
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jeff)
Subject: Antisocial KDE2 behavior
Date: 6 Nov 2000 00:23:32 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reminds me of Windows...
On a whim, I installed KDE2 on my perfectly functional Debian 2.2/Gnome
system. Next thing I know, I could not successfully display .jpg
attachments from within mutt. Turns out that the KDE install had sprinkled
little k-this's and k-that's all over my /etc/mailcap. Never did it ask for
permission, or let me know what it was up to.
Who knows what else the KDE install did. Really - if I want a system that
thinks that it knows more about what I want than I do, I'll go back to
Windows.
-jeff
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From: Garry Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to install Sun's Star Office ?
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 00:01:58 +0000
On Sun, 05 Nov 2000, Arctic Storm wrote:
>How to install Sun's Star Office ?
>I went to Sun's web site and downloaded the file
>so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en.bin.
>According to the Sun's instructions, I simply type the name of the file,
>but when I do that, I get an error that no such command exists.
You need to prefix it with ./ since the current directory isn't (and shouldn't
be) on your PATH. So enter:
./so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en.bin
You might need to do a 'chmod u+x so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en.bin' first in order to
make it executable.
--
Garry Knight
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.advocacy,linux.redhat,alt.os.linux,comp.unix.solaris,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: KDE vs GNOME: specific issues
Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 00:50:24 +0000
Jeff Jeffries wrote:
>
> I need to choose either GNOME or KDE. I will be doing computationally
> intensive C++, with very heavy disk I/O. Results will be displayed in 3D
> preferrably with OpenGL.
>
> 1. Are GNOME and KDE C++ and/or object oriented? How will this affect
> developing with C++?
>
> 2. I know GNOME has gtkglarea; does KDE?
>
> 3. What else should a C++ developer know?
>
> Thanks!
You're doing this software for X windows right? The particular widget
set you happen to choose should make a whole lot of difference to the
functionality of the software.
With regard point 1, the gcc compiler will work regardless of the window
manager you use. C++ is always object oriented. The only time the
window manager may come into play is when you develop th UI.
Tom
--
http://www.guild.bham.ac.uk/chess-club
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Reply-To: "CSNI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "CSNI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Mandrake install problems
Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 01:08:33 GMT
Im installing mandrake 7.1 on an Asus CUSL2 Intel 815E Atx 133
motherboard with a 733 processor. Using the Drakx install program, when I
reach the partition
format proceedure, the system hangs or sometimes reboots on its own, usually
at the latterportion of the hard drive. I also get an error saying that
"seems like memory is missing as install crashes'
does anyone have any ideas?
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From: "LittleFish" <littlefish_au[SPAM ME AT YOUR OWN RISK]@yahoo.com>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: CMI8330 SOUNDCHIP
Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 01:14:00 +1000
I had a 8330 working for ages sorry I didn't see this earlier to help. If
you have windozer look under the device properties and note the setting
under MSS MicroSuck Sound and write them down. When you reboot into Linux as
Root .You can run "/usr/sbin/sndconfig" as root without shutting down the
computer and enter in only that recorded data. Disable everything else. You
will be up and running.
LittleFish
"softrat`" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
> >
> > In comp.os.linux.help D. Gross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > : I have the 8338....in Windows it works fine. In Linux...suffice to say
> > : I have pulled out the remaining 4 hairs left on my bald head! I went
> > : to CMedia's website, downloaded the Linux drivers, and followed
> > : the insructions to use "make" and "menuconfig".......only to be
stymied
> > : by a "missing rules" error! I'm installing my old T-Beach Tropez,
> >
> > Why are you stymied by this? A missing rule error either means the rule
> > isn't there or the file in which the rule would be found isn't
> > there. Which is it? You don't tell us. But it sounds like you don't
> > have the kernel sources installed (or haven't configured them), and
> > the missing rule comes from there.
> >
> > Let us know when you feel like giving us sufficient info to help you.
> > The command line and the error output it evokes should be fine.
> >
> > Peter
>
> Mr Breuer has done his standard job of being abusive and unhelpful.
>
> CMedia's documentation is erroneous and their instructions are very much
> oversimplified. I finally got my CMedia sound card to work, but it took
> weeks of experimentation. You actually are taking the best and simplest
> approach: flush CMedia!
>
> George D. Freeman IV
> the softrat
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> --
> The opulence of the front office door varies inversely with the
> fundamental
> solvency of the firm.
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