Linux-Misc Digest #252, Volume #20               Tue, 18 May 99 17:13:09 EDT

Contents:
  Re: RedHat Linux 5.2 Deluxe Operating System (TS Stahl)
  how to copy file from diskette to hard drive? ("jmt")
  Re: DDS-3 DAT drive (Per Steinar Iversen)
  Re: how to copy file from diskette to hard drive? (benjamin)
  Re: New Star office for glibc 2.1 (Eric Fierke)
  Re: New cable modem means I have a lot to learn (Michael Meissner)
  Re: What's wrong with this kernel??? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  GnomeICU Compile Problem ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: A Capitalists view of freedom (George MacDonald)
  Re: how to copy file from diskette to hard drive? (Steve Urkel)
  Re: AutoInstall is for experts, not beginners!!! (Roger Gammans)
  DDS-3 DAT drive (Chris Mauritz)
  Re: NT the best web platform? (Miguel Cruz)
  PPP Madness ("Michael Rathburn")
  Re: was getting a Lexmark 3200 a mistake? (zz)
  Re: SECURITY ISSUES: Single user restriction at lilo boot: (Mike Bristow)
  Re: CompuServe? (siz)
  Re: how do I interrupt boot sequence? (Bob Tennent)
  S3/VIRGE vs. OS/2 WARP 4 (Ulrich Brachvogel)
  Re: Exhaustive testing of a suspect hard drive (Christopher Mahmood)
  Re: FTP with Resume feature? (Leslie Mikesell)
  Re: AutoInstall is for experts, not beginners!!! ("D. Vrabel")
  Re: The Vi Lovers Home Page (Aqeel Mahesri)
  Re: SuSE 6.1 anyone? (marco tephlant)
  can't initiate modem if not root ..???? help please ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: The Vi Lovers Home Page (Roland Smith)

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From: TS Stahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help,linux.redhat.devel,linux.redhat.development,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.rpm
Subject: Re: RedHat Linux 5.2 Deluxe Operating System
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 09:02:40 -0500

Jik offered some excellent advice.  If you are really this new to the game,
then I would suggest finding a mentor.  If a mentor is not available, then try
one of the many commercial books dedicated to Linux.  Red Hat linux unleashed
is a good start, and it comes with RH 5.2.

Those partitions the install wants you to create are the home of the file
system.  You will be just fine defining two partitions:  one called / (yes,
just slash /), and one swap partition.  The swap partition should be twice your
memory size, but not more than 128 meg.  The / partition should be as large as
you want linux to have. Six hundre megs or so is a good start for a dual boot
learning box.

Happy computing.


Andrew Meyer wrote:

> I am a newbie to the Linux/unix envrionment and interested in becoming more
> knowledgeable.  But lately for some reason whenenver I install a copy of
> RedHat's Linux 5.2 Deluxe OS during the install it wants me to specify the
> types of drives or something like that for the partitions.  If you know
> anything about this then please e-mail me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]  What are
> the specific drive names?  Also what is the command for mounting a CDROM
> drive? and is there any GUI copmression utlility for Linux that is similar
> to Winzip or Aladdin?  And please if you could help me with the C source
> code compiling it would mean a great deal to me!!!
>
> Thanks
> Andrew Meyer
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

--
Scott Stahl
MIS Asst.
Illinois Housing Development Authority
401 N. Michigan Ave. Ste. 900
Chicago, IL 60611



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From: "jmt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: how to copy file from diskette to hard drive?
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 17:58:21 GMT

I have a file on a dos formatted diskette and need to copy it to my linux
hard drive. How can I do this? Running Red Hat 5.2.

Thanks,
Jeff




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Per Steinar Iversen)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: DDS-3 DAT drive
Date: 18 May 1999 18:42:18 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Tue, 18 May 1999 15:59:16 GMT, Chris Mauritz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>What's the secret to getting a DDS-3 DAT drive to work with linux?
>I've tried reading/writing tapes with Redhat 5.2 and Redhat 6.0 
>using an HP and a Seagate drive without success.
>
>When I try to read/write tapes, I get:
>
>tape read error:  Input/output error
>
>I've compiled SCSI tape support into the kernel (tried both 2.0.36 and
>2.2.9) and made sure the device files (/dev/nst0 /dev/st0) exist.
>
>Anyone have any suggestions?

In the case of reading tapes this could be due to different block lengths
between the drive that wrote the tape and the reader.

Assuming that a tape contain a tar-image, then one can make linux figure
out the blocksize:

mt -f /dev/st0 setblk 0
tar xf /dev/st0

The trick is to use "mt setblk" with an argument of 0 - this seems not
to be documented in the mt man-page, but it works well though.

I have a handful of DDS-3 DAT tapes running with linux, they work
very well, both Sony and HP.

-psi

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From: benjamin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how to copy file from diskette to hard drive?
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 22:40:20 +0200

jmt wrote:

> I have a file on a dos formatted diskette and need to copy it to my linux
> hard drive. How can I do this? Running Red Hat 5.2.
>
> Thanks,
> Jeff

  You need to mount the floppy specifying its fs type:

---Enter the disk---

# mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /mnt         (Note: do it as root)

(This will mount the disk in /mnt -you can change this- with fs  type msdos)

# cd /mnt

(You go in /mnt and you do what you want as if /mnt was the disk itself)

# cp /mnt/the_file /linux_directory_target
# umount /dev/fd0           <-- DON'T FORGET THIS !!

(The changing will be applyed by this command. If you forget it, nothing
will be copied)

Hope that helps.
Ben.



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From: Eric Fierke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: New Star office for glibc 2.1
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 14:47:36 -0400

You can't download it.  It is currently only available on the Applications
cd that ships with Red Hat 6.0

Eric


> Does anyone know where I can download the new glibc 2.1 star office that 
> susposedly comes with RH 6.0?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 


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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: New cable modem means I have a lot to learn
From: Michael Meissner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 18 May 1999 14:50:54 -0400

"Steve Snyder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> 0. My ISP will provide a dynamically-allocated IP address.  Does that mean I
> need to configure my server for DHCP?  All the client system will continue
> to have static addresses.

It depends, but generally yes, you will need to configure whatever machine
connects to the ISP to use DHCP (or more precisely the client program DHCPCD).
You should make sure the clients (and server if you use a firewall) all use IP
addresses that are reserved for private use (10.x.x.x, 172.16.x.x,
192.168.x.x).

Note there are some ISP's out there that state they don't allow a computer
providing internet service for a lan (you are supposed to buy separate cable
modem service for each PC).  I've seen some reports that they will refuse to
deal with you if your computer has a lilo prompt.  Hopefully, you have a more
enlighted ISP.

> 1.  Supporting a 2nd NIC in my server.  Having Linux recognize both NICs is
> a no-brainer, but how do I configure it to communicate only with the cable
> modem?  (The 1st NIC will remain connected to the hub, of course.)

I don't have cable service, but I believe the cable installer just plugs the
cable box into your NIC (basically the original hub does not share any wires
with the NIC/cable modem),

> 2. IP Masquerading?

Yes, unless you get a fixed set of IP numbers.

> 3. Firewall?  Up to now I haven't had to think much about security, since
> the LAN doesn't have direct Internet access.  Now that we'll be constantly
> connected, I'm wondering if I need a firewall.  I have an older machine that
> I could use solely as a firewall if needed.

It might be less disruptive to use a firewall (that way the server is the same
config as before except you set up routing through the firewall).  It is also
more secure, especially if you don't allow access without passwords from the
firewall to the client machines (rlogin, nfs, etc.), and use different
passwords on the firewall.

> Any information, or pointers to info, on these topics would be gratefully
> received.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> ***** Steve Snyder *****
> 
> 
> 

-- 
Michael Meissner, Cygnus Solutions
PMB 198, 174 Littleton Road #3
Westford, Massachusetts 01886
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]      fax: 978-692-4482

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: What's wrong with this kernel???
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 18:07:26 GMT

In article <7hs1aj$cn7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  oscarh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Just a thought - after you copied the images to the boot directory and
edited
> lilo.conf, did you run lilo to lock 'em in?
>
> --
> OK,
>
> oscar
Ya, I did a 'make zlilo' and lilo and it succesfully showed the
different labels that it can use:
  linux  *
  oldkernel
  win

-Ben


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: GnomeICU Compile Problem
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 18:14:38 GMT

I had some problems while installing version 0.63 on Redhat 6. The
program "./configure" worked fine, only reporting that it couldn't find
the esd-config file, but otherwise working fine, however when i
typed "make", it generated A BUNCH of error messages on like every
single line of pixmap.c or .h saying "Undefined reference to gdk-
render" or something like that. Now, in order to get the configure
program to work, I had to go back to my Redhat CD and install all the
Gnome rpm's...and I already have Gnome working on my system. My
question is, where do I get all these gdk*.* files...I already have the
gtk1.2.1 that comes on the CD and I'm sure it is installed. Can you
offer any suggestions? Thanks.

Chris Oldenburg
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: George MacDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: A Capitalists view of freedom
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 18:55:59 GMT

Mr Barry P Macmahon wrote:
> 
> A little aside from the previous discussion. I have always been taught
> that for every freedom one takes advantage of, you infringe on someone
> elses freedom. 

I think you are confusing freedom with resources. If you are in a
world of constrained resources, then you will only ever be able to
aquire a certain percentage(unless you eliminate all others).

How does my freedom to bear arms in any way limit your freedom to do
likewise? 

> We want the benefits that a competetive capitalism brings
> [eg.ambition, creativity] 

Competative capitalism, which by the way can *only* exist in "free"
societes allows for the *free* exchange of goods and services.
Thus one gets choice and opportunity in the same way that natural
selection produces a variety of species.

Creativity is an inate human ability and is not in any way the
product of capitalism.


> but  everything has a price [except Linux ;-) ]

The saying "nothing is free"; comes more from the fact that all things
require effort, it's not about units of currency.


> and it's always those who are considered 'the weak' who pay. 

And now you venture into the "dark" side of capitalism, i.e. those
who use money as a mechanism for weilding power to deny others
freedoms. I think they call that facism?

> What's wrong
> with having ridiculous taxes for the ridiculously rich. 

Next time you go to a restaraunt why shouldn't the proprietor,
size you up for how much he thinks you can afford for the meal.

         Nice suit, your burger will cost $150!


> I'm sure Bill's
> billions could improve the quality of living for John Doe.

As far as I'm concerned Bill Gates should not pay any more in taxes
than I do. If he wants to volunteer more in helping the government
or society in general then that is commendable. Persons who
gain great wealth in a free society are free to respond in kind
if they wish. Such a response comes from the inate human quality
of "sharing".


-- 
We stand on the shoulders of those giants who coded before.
Build a good layer, stand strong, and prepare for the next wave.
Guide those who come after you, give them your shoulder, lend them your code.
Code well and live!   - [EMAIL PROTECTED] (7th Coding Battalion)

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From: Steve Urkel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how to copy file from diskette to hard drive?
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 19:23:12 GMT

You can use mtools 
for example,
use the command 'mcopy a:\foo.bar .' replacing 
a:\foo.bar with your filename

SU

jmt wrote:
> 
> I have a file on a dos formatted diskette and need to copy it to my linux
> hard drive. How can I do this? Running Red Hat 5.2.
> 
> Thanks,
> Jeff

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From: Roger Gammans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: AutoInstall is for experts, not beginners!!!
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 19:54:18 +0100

In article <udB*[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Damerell
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>[re: Debian]

>They've also done much better in terms of the a.out-ELF and
>libc5-glibc transitions; a glibc Debian can not only run libc5 binaries
>(if the right packages are installed) but has a complete compilation
>environment for libc5.

Cool, which packages are these. I have a desperate need for this
functionality.

My only complaint with dselect is finding the packages you need. But I
think this is getting used to the tool more than anything else. I've
discovered \//\\ (think about it) so am finding it easier now than when
I first used it.

Now if I could just stop the help appearing when I don't want it....

TTFN
-- 
Roger Gammans

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
From: Chris Mauritz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: DDS-3 DAT drive
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 15:59:16 GMT

What's the secret to getting a DDS-3 DAT drive to work with linux?
I've tried reading/writing tapes with Redhat 5.2 and Redhat 6.0 
using an HP and a Seagate drive without success.

When I try to read/write tapes, I get:

tape read error:  Input/output error

I've compiled SCSI tape support into the kernel (tried both 2.0.36 and
2.2.9) and made sure the device files (/dev/nst0 /dev/st0) exist.

Anyone have any suggestions?

Chris

-- 
Christopher Mauritz
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Crossposted-To: comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: NT the best web platform?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Miguel Cruz)
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 16:18:18 GMT

In article <7hru82$am6$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Did any of your guys look at the webbechmark posted by PC
> magazine?Below is the URL
> http://www.zdnet.com/pcmag/stories/reviews/0,6755,2256617,00.html
>
> In this, it stated that NT4 and IIS is the best web platform today,
> with "Leading performance, excellent programmability and wideest variety
> of third party addons". Contraray to common belive, it says IIS
> outperformances other webserver(apache, netscape enterprise server) when
> load increased!!

They used a dual-processor system, yet for the Linux tests, chose an
outdated version of Linux with minimal multiprocessor support. They use
ISAPI on IIS, and CGI on Linux. All the tests prove is their staff's
inability to properly configure servers running non-MS operating systems.
This is the same sort of deck-stacking nonsense we saw with the Mindcraft
"study".

miguel

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From: "Michael Rathburn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PPP Madness
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 20:35:08 +0100

Please help I have a linux box and am a single user I have had a nightmare
trying to sort out a connection to the internet and irc servers alike ive
tried KDE desktop using kppp I have tried following PcPlus instructions I
have used thier scripts done it manually and allsorts of wierd things have
happened all I want to do is use my linux machine to learn about unix step
by step but it seems you have to read more crap than a Philadelphia lawyer
on a case with no precedent !    I conncect with minicom do the login and
password bit then it says Async Interface address is unumbered  header
compression will match your system then I close minicom without a reset then
everytime after about 10 seconds it drops the carrier, Is this so only elite
sys admins and hackers are suppose to use unix ?.I have bought 2 books and
it seems you have to read the lot on networking before you begin to use the
internet .



BTW I have read the man pages and it still wont work




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From: zz
Subject: Re: was getting a Lexmark 3200 a mistake?
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 16:14:42 GMT

Lexmark International (NYSE:LXK).
well, it won't be long before their stock drops... sell now.

On Tue, 18 May 1999 02:14:35 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Williams) wrote:

>On Sun, 16 May 1999 02:38:48, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> In article <dEfBft5hvBuv-pn2-gIyr8ILgBLHC@localhost>,
>>   [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Williams) wrote:
>> > I recently bought a Lexmark 3200 after reading good comments in
>> > comp.os.os2.misc.  This was before I got Linux, but I was planning on
>> > getting Linux in the near future.  Well I have RH 5.2 now, and as you
>> > might expect, this printer doesn't work with Linux. I didn't realize
>> > it was a Windoze-type printer (since there was an OS/2 driver for it)
>> 
>> It is truly bizarre that Lexmark went so far as to write a driver for
>> OS/2 but then left Linux conspicuously absent from the support list.
>> 
>> You're screwed.  The printer needs proprietary drivers to work.  Lexmark
>> won't write a Linux driver, and no one else can write one because
>> Lexmark won't release the specs.  Catch-22.
>> 
>
>Oh well. I still have an Epson LQ-850 that will work, but I boxed it 
>up when I got the Lexmark. I suppose I need to find room for two 
>printers and get an A/B switch.  Maybe one day I'll sell the Lexmark 
>and get a printer that supports Linux.  Don't really have much in the 
>budget though (or else I'd have gotten a PS printer.)
>
>Are there good, inexpensive, color/BW inkjet printers that work under 
>Win9x / OS/2 / Linux? 
>______________________
>Tim Williams


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Bristow)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.security,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: SECURITY ISSUES: Single user restriction at lilo boot:
Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 22:03:21 GMT

[ note: quoting rearranged to be the right way up]

On Mon, 17 May 1999 17:40:10 -0400, 
        Charles Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Murni & Hamid wrote in message
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>>Stephan M. Ott // OKDesign oHG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> A better way would be disable the floppy in the bios, then
>>> password-protect the bios. 
>>
>> A much better way is to change your bootup sequence rather
>> than disabling the floppy. Instead of reading A: and then C:,
>> do it the reverse, C: and then A:. Modern BIOS should have
>> this feature. And surely password protect the BIOS setup. The
>> ultimate way is to install a diskless X server and let your
>> Linux machine locked inside a secured room.

It's likely that this can be got round also, by (for example)
gaining knowledge of the MAC address used (using a network
sniffer) , then unplugging the controller and issuing
RARP/BOOTP/DHCP requests (which?  Hey!  You've just plugged a
sniffer into the network!) to convice the server that the box has
just booted and should be allowed to NFS/whatever mount the
remote filesystems.

I could be wrong, however, but I'd need some convincing.

> If booting first from C:, then A:, what would happen if the
> "hacker" disconnected the power plug from the hard drive,
> booted from floppy, then replaced the plug on the hard drive.

If the hacker can do this, you've lost, as they could remove the
harddrive and mount on their laptop, edit /etc/passwd & friends,
replace the drive and go on their merry way.

Actually, you could boot using initrd or similar, and when you
mount / require the passphrase for the encrypted filesystem.

But this destroys the possibility of unattended reboots, and
people may well be able to obtain the passphrase by compromising
the keyboard controller or cable.

If people have access to the hardware you must assume that they
have root/adminstrator/whatever on that machine, and gaining such
privilages on a local machine should not be able to compromise
the rest of the network.

-- 
"How should I know if it works?  That's what beta testers are for.  I
only coded it."
        -- Attributed to Linus Torvalds


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From: siz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CompuServe?
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 15:16:07 -0400

Did that, now what about IP addresses? Also, I still can't get
usenet. I am trying news.compuserve.com for the host (and I tried both wi=
th and
without authentication). What do you think?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Schultz) wrote:
>On Sat, 15 May 1999 13:56:10 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>In an installation of SuSE Linux I saw a reference to Compuserve being
>>used as an ISP when setting up PPP. I'm not currently on SuSE but would
>>like to use Compuserve if possible. At the moment I'm unable to connect
>>due to chap secrets error. If anyone out there in Linux Land is using
>>Compuserve and would like to share examples of chap setup or other
>>critical considerations please email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>Ray Seiffert
>
>You don't use chap to connect to Compuserve.  You set up a chat script
>that does the following:
>
>send an initial carriage return ('/r')
>respond to the "Hostname:" prompt with 'CIS'. =20
>respond to the User ID: prompt with 'XXXX.XXXX/GO:PPPCONNECT'=20
>respond to 'Password:' prompt with your password. =20
>
>(XXXXX.XXXX is your Compuserver ID.
>
>It should establish your ppp connection at that point.
>
>With RedHat's netcfg program it's pretty trivial.  I've also set it up
>in Slackware and Debian, but you have to actually type in the script.
>
>--=20
>Bruce Schultz
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Tennent)
Subject: Re: how do I interrupt boot sequence?
Date: 18 May 1999 15:21:25 GMT
Reply-To: rdt(a)cs.queensu.ca

On Tue, 18 May 1999 14:34:57 +0100, Keith York wrote:
 >I am using Debian linux and it is hanging during startup when it tries
 >to load a corrupt program.
 >
 >How do I interrupt the startup to get a root prompt so I can remove the
 >offending line.  (I tried ctl c etc but that doesn't stop it.)
 >
Ctrl-Alt-Del should force a shutdown.  Then reboot in single-user mode
to fix the problem.

Bob T.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ulrich Brachvogel)
Subject: S3/VIRGE vs. OS/2 WARP 4
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 22:27:20 +0200

Hi everybody,
since I have installed a S3-Virge display adapter (4MB)
and the respective driver, I only get standard vga resolution.
Is there anybody who has already had and resolved this problem? Maybe 
an older posting?
thanks for help
Ulrich
-- 
 Mit frdl. Gruss 


// <( ) 
//    \______// 
//     \____/    Ulrich Brachvogel 
//       / \ 
//               "Save The Curlew!"

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From: Christopher Mahmood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Exhaustive testing of a suspect hard drive
Date: 17 May 1999 06:07:27 -0700

badblocks, be sure to read the man page first.
-ckm

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
Subject: Re: FTP with Resume feature?
Date: 18 May 1999 12:03:17 -0500

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Mr. Fabulous <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>During a restless day hobnobbing in comp.os.linux.misc, Ed Hurst
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> quacked like a little penguin as (s)he typed on
>the keyboard like so:
>
>> Rob,
>> 
>> I like ncftp.  I know that it's smarter than I am, and automates some
>> really good features, like remembering where you left off, even if you
>> stop the download manually yourself.
>
>How is it on automatically reconnecting after timeouts or dial-in
>disconnects??

If you run in command line mode, there are options to control the
retries.

  Les Mikesell
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: "D. Vrabel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: AutoInstall is for experts, not beginners!!!
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 21:56:51 +0100

On Tue, 18 May 1999, Roger Gammans wrote:

> In article <udB*[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Damerell
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
> >[re: Debian]
> 
> >They've also done much better in terms of the a.out-ELF and
> >libc5-glibc transitions; a glibc Debian can not only run libc5 binaries
> >(if the right packages are installed) but has a complete compilation
> >environment for libc5.
> 
> Cool, which packages are these. I have a desperate need for this
> functionality.
They're in the old-libs section I think.

David
-- 
David Vrabel
Engineering Undergraduate at University of Cambridge, UK.


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From: Aqeel Mahesri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The Vi Lovers Home Page
Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 17:30:52 -0700

ok, maybe not officially.

Bill Unruh wrote:

> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Aqeel Mahesri 
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> >UC Berkeley has officially appologized for the creation of the
> >not-much-better-than-Windows-Notepad editor vi.  Why do people still keep using
> >it?
>
> In which speach of which president of Berkeley did this happen?
> Which resolution of which Board of Governors?
> Or do you mean that someone sometime passing through the grounds of the
> campus did so, and that made it "official"?


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (marco tephlant)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: SuSE 6.1 anyone?
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 01:33:42 +0100

In article <7hq9hp$8a6$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> In article <7hpruv$uj9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Is there anyone willing to lend me their SuSE CDs to make a copy? I
> > purchased version 5.3, but I would like to upgrade. Of course I will
> pay
> > shipping. I live in Pennsylvania.
> 
> That is illegal, there is licensed software onboard; but here is
> another solution: (from a recent post)
> ...
> 
> | I was pleasantly surprised to find that http://www.chumbo.com sells
> | SuSE 6.1  for around $23 plus another $5 for shipping.
> |
> | I really like Suse and KDE.
> 

Illegal?   Since when?   I have scanned the SuSE packaging and there is 
no copyright markings anywhere,  why would it be illegal.  What is 
licensed on it - YAST?  A few SuSE scripts?  There is staroffice but 
without the registration code it's not a problem either.

-- 
Marco

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: can't initiate modem if not root ..???? help please
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 20:54:29 GMT



hi
I've an internal rockwell modem it's attached to the ttyS1 ( com2 ) port
of my computer
the problem is I ca'nt reach it except when I'm root I want to reach it
when I 'm a usual user mincom refuese and says it can't access the lock
file ...
can you pleas help me
how can I make any user access my modem .. or prevent him from doing so
..?

thanks in advance

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From: Roland Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: nl.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: The Vi Lovers Home Page
Date: 18 May 1999 22:59:42 +0200

"Thomer M. Gil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Please visit the Vi Lovers Home Page. 
> Vi is *the* editor under Unix,
> Windows 95/98/NT and many other operating systems.

Tijd voor de jaarlijkse emacs - vi flamewar :) 

EMACS RULES!

Roland (die nu z'n asbest ondergoed uit de kast haalt ;)
-- 
Roland Smith                      "The time between slipping over
r s m i t h @ x s 4 a l l . n l    a banana peel, and landing on
                                   the pavement is exactly one
http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/      bananosecond"

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