Linux-Misc Digest #252, Volume #21 Sun, 1 Aug 99 20:13:09 EDT
Contents:
DNEWS 5 News Server Mthly Pointer to FAQ (Stephen Pugmire)
GDP (Richard Kulisz)
Re: Need: Valid color NAMES for WM config files - list preferable (Ceri Hankey)
Re: CIA assassinations (Richard Kulisz)
Re: screen, the program (NF Stevens)
Re: XWin Terminal Emulator ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Where can I get Xlib.h? (Michael Perry)
Re: Program to find optimal MTU? (Jeff Workman)
currencies (Richard Kulisz)
Re: Create time (Bob Nelson)
Re: What I think of linux. (Terry Porter)
Re: xv on Red Hat 6.0 ("R.K.Aa")
Re: Lilo, I just erased it and I want it back!!! ("Spotillius Maximus aka \"Spot\"")
Re: IDE vs scsi? (Jerry Lapham)
Re: XWin Terminal Emulator (Rod Smith)
Re: screen, the program (Justin B Willoughby)
wealth (Richard Kulisz)
xv on Red Hat 6.0 (GatonSon)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stephen Pugmire)
Crossposted-To:
news.software.nntp,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.admin.networking,comp.infosystems.www.servers.ms-windows
Subject: DNEWS 5 News Server Mthly Pointer to FAQ
Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 23:00:40 GMT
This message is a brief description of the DNEWS 5 News Server
features and a pointer to the FAQ and binary areas.
DNEWS is a high performance NNTP News Server. It is suitable
for large and small ISP's and Corporate Intranets. DNEWS is
available for all common operating systems, installs easily and
is designed to run unattended.
Design :
Database : DNEWS incorporates a database specifically
designed for News, enabling DNEWS to handle full news feeds
more efficiently and faster than other news server software.
This is important as news volumes continue to grow rapidly.
DNEWS can provide significant performance improvements
particularly where resources are limited.
Dynamic Sucking Feed Option: In addition to traditional news
feed options DNEWS also provides the unique Dynamic Feed
option. A Dynamic News Feed offers business and smaller sites
several important advantages over traditional full or
partial news feeds. The Dynamic Feed delivers enormous savings
in Network bandwidth and diskspace compared to taking a full
feed.
Performance is significantly enhanced as the high redundancy
of the full feed is automatically eliminated. Unlike the older
traditional partial feed a Dynamic Feed does not require users
access to be limited or the maintenance of updating selected
groups to meet users changing needs.
By dynamically reflecting users reading habits the server
automatically only gets and maintains those news
groups that users actually want to read. In this way users
retains all the advantages of the full news feed while
enormous saving in network bandwidth and diskspace are
possible.
The process is completely automatic so there is no
ongoing administration .
News Reader Efficiency: The advanced design significantly improves
news server efficiency. On similar Hardware DNEWS will
typically support 2 times as many news readers per server
with the same fast interactive response time.
Scalability: Designed for high scalability DNEWS design will
handle 0-60 Gig news spools most efficiently. Can be
configured with 2-10 Multiple Server processes on single
server each handling 50-200 concurrent users.
DNEWS can be configured to take multiple full news feeds
and up to 16 dynamic suck feeds and can efficiently send
multiple full feeds with built-in Live feed technology.
Easy Installation and Management: Designed to run unattended
DNEWS is easy to install with virtually no ongoing management.
Key Features:
Easy Installation - totally configurable without recompiling.
Low Maintenance - designed to run unattended.
Support for Multiple IHAVE Feeds
Support for Multiple Dynamic Suck Feeds
Built in Live Feeds Technology for sending full news feeds to other
servers with the efficiency of a news router.
News to Web Gateway , for putting news onto web pages , with full
text searching .
New to Mail Gateways (both ways)
PGP authentication (optional)
Flexible Access and Security options for reading and posting.
Flexible Expire Options allowing intelligently response to number of
items and available diskspace.
Advanced 'SPAM' detection and filtering mechanisms.
Email confirmation of posts.
XOVER extensions implemented in software removing the need for a
separate ' XOVER' database
Streaming extensions are built in speeding up feed throughput
Full Documentation
Commercially supported
DNEWS is a not FREEWARE. Registration is free to state schools and
universities for non profit purposes.
Web page: http://www.netwinsite.com
FTP Binaries ftp://netwinsite.com/dnews
FAQ ftp://netwinsite.com/dnews/install.txt
Mirror Site ftp://ftp.std.com/ftp/vendors/netwin/dnews/
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Kulisz)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: GDP
Date: 1 Aug 1999 22:37:11 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Christopher B. Browne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Looking at GDP is either a useful countereffect, or a dramatically
>useless exercise.
>
>GDP is useful to the extent that it provides some semblance of overall
>results. Thus, if several things happened, and the GDP went up, then
>it would appear that the net result was economic growth.
>Alternatively, if GDP fell, the net result of the several events was
>economic decline.
You'll probably want to switch to the Genuine Progress Indicator. The
GDP measures toxic waste cleanup as a positive. If you produce pollution
then pay to clean it up, you've gained in GDP, whereas if you count the
wealth generated from coal and *subtract* the cost of cleaning the
pollution generated by that industry you learn that the entire industry
is actually sucking wealth from the larger economy.
GDP measures only how much people slave away, it doesn't measure how
much actual *wealth* is generated by the economy. Under the GDP, leisure,
health, the environment all have exactly zero value.
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From: Ceri Hankey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Need: Valid color NAMES for WM config files - list preferable
Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 00:34:16 +0200
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Fine, but how do I get these names 'officially' recognized by Linux (RH6.0), I
have 24 bit colour mode and the system keeps on telling me that Wheat colormap
is not available.
How do yo get the colormaps to be correct?
Regards
Ceri Hankey
Paul Kimoto wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Valentin Guillen wrote:
> > Anyone who can send me, or point me to lists of valid color names for
> > use in my Windows Managers configuration files would be "sincerely
> > appreciated".
>
> You want the file "rgb.txt". In the standard XFree86 setup,
> it seems to be in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11.
>
> --
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Kulisz)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: CIA assassinations
Date: 1 Aug 1999 22:56:34 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, A.T.Z. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Richard Kulisz schreef:
>> Are you denying that technology
>> costs a lot of capital which very few people have access to?
>
>No. I assume you want to get back to the past. Throw the machines out and
>people back in??
I'm a Marxist, not a Libertarian.
>> If not
>> then what the hell are you saying
>
>You make it look like a conspiracy from the wealth against the poor. That's
>what I mean when I say this stuff belongs in alt.conspiracy.
Most people are taught by the mass media to sneer at any possibility
of propaganda. People's conception of 'propaganda' is shaped by the
mass media and when you learn anything about the actual meaning of
the word you can see that the mass media is merely a propaganda system
wishing to divert critical analysis from itself. Similarly with conspiracy;
your conception of 'conspiracy' is shaped by a conspiracy which wishes
to divert attention from itself. You should distinguish between the
madman's Grand Conspiracy wherein Everyone Is In On It from the more
prosaic meaning of the word.
"Am I borrowing on Quigley to say then that this one conspiracy rules the
world? The arguments for a conspiracy theory are indeed often dismissed
on the grounds that no one conspiracy could possibly control everything.
But that is not what this theory sets out to show. Quigley is not saying
that modern history is the invention of an esoteric cabal designing events
omnipotently to suit its needs. The implicit claim, on the contrary, is
that a multitude of conspiracies contend in the night. Conspiracy is not
the usage of a handful of rogues, it is a formalized practice of an entire
class in which a thousand hands spontaneously join. Conspiracy is the
normal continuation of normal politics by normal means." -- Oglesby, p. 25
The rich work against the poor because it is in their interests to do so.
If a city council wished to decree that rents would not exceed 200$/month,
how long do you think it would take for all landlords to band together
against this decision? It may be silent but it is a conspiracy nonetheless.
>> >Richard Kulisz schreef:
>> >> And why do you think the technology was put in place? Technology serves
>> >> whoever controls it. Who do you think owns technology in the USA?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NF Stevens)
Subject: Re: screen, the program
Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 23:11:04 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Otavio Exel) wrote:
>hello all,
>
>I'm looking for info on the terminal multiplexer program called screen;
>it it totally impossible to find info on it using web/usenet searches
>because screen is such a common word; I'd apreciate if someone could
>point me to any of:
>- a mailing list or a news group
>- a 'magic' word that would spot screen related messages in (say)
> DejaNews;
>
>and, just in case you can help me..
>I've been using screen with Debian Hamm with absolute success; after
>upgrading to Slink some keys in some situations (ex: space-bar in less)
>takes ages (well: 3 or 4 seconds) to show; any clues?
The README file for screen-3.7.3 contains the following
Send bugreports, fixes, enhancements, t-shirts, money, beer & pizza to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
HTH
Norman
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: XWin Terminal Emulator
Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 21:56:50 GMT
> If you mean an X server for Windows, so that you can run Linux X
programs
> on the PC, I know of three solutions that might suit you:
<snip>
Thank you Rod, but that is not exactly what I mean (though I will
research those products because they look neat). Let me be a little
more specific.
There was a piece of software I used at the last place I worked (Texas
Natural Resource Conservation Commission) that basically opened up a
window on your PC that emulated an XWindows Workstation. When I ran
Unix software (this was either an IBM RS/6000 or and HP-UX box, we did
both) it would actually run remotely, not on my PC. I could conceivably
login to a box, and do systems administration in an X-Windows
environment, but on my PC. The software was called Exceed for Windows
and was commercially available. I think there is a piece of software
called Reflections which does the same thing.
What I was hoping to try was the same thing, but logging into a Linux
box so I could work in Windows and remotely administer the Linux box
without having to switch back and forth.
Of course, I don't have any good reason to do this, I just think it'd
be really neat, I'd have another way of doing administration from it
than with telnet or directly accessing it.
Again, thanks for the response so far.
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Perry)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Where can I get Xlib.h?
Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 21:38:20 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 27 Jul 1999 16:02:37 GMT, John Calla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm using RedHat Linux 5.2 and I'm getting a bit frustrated when it
>comes to installing apps. Some people only release the source and so
>I have to compile it myself, and this is where the problem arises. I
>often get an error when running "make": can't find X11/Xlib.h.
>
>I assume Xlib.h is one of probably many library files that programmers
>use to write X apps. I've searched my system -- I don't have it. So
>where can I get it? And is it part of a huge 50-meg package that I
>have to install? Was it supposed to come with X11R6?
>
>I've found that even if I want to compile a 10k program like xroach, I
>have to go searching around for the necessary libraries and install
>them first. (And sometimes those libraries require other libraries,
>etc...)
>
>I'm a bit new to Linux so go easy on me... :)
>
>Thanks,
>John
>
Install the X devel rpm off the redhat cd.
--
Michael Perry - | No one can give you wiser advice
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | than yourself -Cicero
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From: Jeff Workman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Program to find optimal MTU?
Date: 01 Aug 1999 18:32:24 -0400
IIRC, if you enable PATH_MTU_DISCOVERY when you compile your kernel, Linux will
do this for you automatically.
Jeff
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Kulisz)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: currencies
Date: 1 Aug 1999 23:13:34 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Anthony Ord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Actually, the Japanese economy is a concern to the US government because
>without their money, you cannot finance your budget deficit. This would
This isn't correct. The USA is the only nation that can print as much
money as it wants to without any repercusions to itself because the US
dollar is the de facto international currency.
>mean your government would only be able to spend what they earned. Name
>one Western government that doesn't break out in a cold sweat at that
>thought...
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From: Bob Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Create time
Date: 1 Aug 1999 18:30:47 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I am having a problem here. I can't figure out how to get a file's
> create time. ls will only give me modified (changed) time and accessed
> time. How can I get create time? Thanks in advance.
Can't be done. There's no concept of a ``file creation time'' in the
Unix world. Refer to the stat(2) man page. Also refer to question 3.1
in Ted Timar's Unix FAQ.
--
========================================================================
Bob Nelson -- Dallas, Texas, USA ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
http://www.oldradio.com/archives/nelson/open-computing.html
``Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.''
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.linux.sux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: What I think of linux.
Reply-To: No-Spam
Date: 2 Aug 1999 07:37:25 +0800
On Sat, 31 Jul 1999 15:20:19 +0100,
Heeeeeeeez back! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In comp.os.linux.misc John Burg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:09:25 -0700, Arthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>I punched my first deck of cards for an IBM 1602 (1620??) in 1968.
>>>That's not a PC - it was a mainframe with lots of blinking lights
>>>and a typewriter console. I miss those blinking lights.
>
>> How quaint! ;)
>
>You could always built a small LED array and plug it into your
>parallel port to relive the old days...
>
Or make up a parallel, port driven (lpt2) LCD display, that shows uptime,
mem, swp and cpu free.
I did, using a junked LCD from a old hotel billing
system and a modified version of LCD4 from Sunsite.
It has sat next to my minitor for 2 years, I *must* put it in a box one day
;-)
Too easy, Linux at its best :))
terry
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From: "R.K.Aa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: xv on Red Hat 6.0
Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 01:41:51 +0200
GatonSon wrote:
>
> Does anyone know why Redhat dropped xv from Red Hat 6.0? I want to have xv to
> load the root window with a picture instead of a solid color with xsetroot.
Why they dropped it is a riddle...unless it's cause it's really
commercial now and only free for private use. However, they cleverly
managed to add it on the PowerPack CD, which means it's available for
download from that dir on their FTP-site and mirrors :)
K.
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From: "Spotillius Maximus aka \"Spot\"" <*****@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Lilo, I just erased it and I want it back!!!
Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 18:10:30 -0400
Cameron, that did the trick.
Spotillius Maximus aka "Spot" <*****@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:7o1cas$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Thanks Cameron, I will try it and let you know how it works. I forgot to
> mention that I was using RedHat 6.0.
>
> This accident happened partly due to my mind going into a semi-comatose
> state watching NT4 rebooting while I was installing it. Thank God for
> Linux, you don't have all that rebooting when you add or change something.
>
>
> Ed
>
>
> Cameron L. Spitzer wrote in message ...
> >In article <7o0bof$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Spotillius Maximus
aka
> \"Spot\" wrote:
> >>Well, I did something stupid, I accidentally erased Lilo from my main
SCSI
> >>drive when I was trying to erase Lilo on another removable drive. I
tried
> >>booting from my floppy with the boot disk with no luck.
> >
> >There are many different boot disks. The installation floppies that
> >come with Red Hat, SuSE, Debian, and Slackware will, by default,
> >boot into a little ramdisk-resident mini-Linux system, where you can
> >get a shell (by exploring the menus in the install program, or
> >switching to another console with Alt-F2) and run the command
> >
> > fdisk -l
> >
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jerry Lapham)
Subject: Re: IDE vs scsi?
Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 16:36:17
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 08/01/99
at 06:48 AM, coffee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Here in the states my controller card cost me 120 bucks and my drive
> (4.2 gig scsi) cost about 230 bucks.
> Scsi is quite a bit faster than ide by nature.
But with your normal application mix, can you tell the difference? If
you're running mostly spreadsheets, word processing, etc., where
everything is in memory except startup and saves and internet apps limited
by the speed of your modem connection, does it really matter how fast (or
slow) your hard disk is?
-Jerry
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Jerry Lapham, Monroe, OH
E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Written Sunday, August 01, 1999 - 04:36 PM (EDT)
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MR/2 Ice tag: Trackball: a mouse that went belly up.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: XWin Terminal Emulator
Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 23:11:27 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Posted and mailed]
In article <7o2fqu$f6b$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
>> If you mean an X server for Windows, so that you can run Linux X
> programs
>> on the PC, I know of three solutions that might suit you:
> <snip>
>
> Thank you Rod, but that is not exactly what I mean
Actually, it is, given your later description, though the meaning of my
phrase "run Linux X programs on the PC" is ambiguous at best. "From the
PC" would be better....
> There was a piece of software I used at the last place I worked (Texas
> Natural Resource Conservation Commission) that basically opened up a
> window on your PC that emulated an XWindows Workstation. When I ran
> Unix software (this was either an IBM RS/6000 or and HP-UX box, we did
> both) it would actually run remotely, not on my PC. I could conceivably
> login to a box, and do systems administration in an X-Windows
> environment, but on my PC. The software was called Exceed for Windows
> and was commercially available. I think there is a piece of software
> called Reflections which does the same thing.
Exceed is an X server, just like the MiX and XWin32 products I mentioned.
These programs let you display on the PC an X program that's running on
the Linux box. All three of these do basically the same job, though there
are differences. VNC accomplishes similar goals through a different
means.
--
Rod Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.channel1.com/users/rodsmith
NOTE: Remove the "uce" word from my address to mail me
Author of _Special Edition Using WordPerfect for Linux_, from Que
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Justin B Willoughby)
Subject: Re: screen, the program
Date: 1 Aug 1999 22:57:10 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Justin B Willoughby)
NF Stevens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Otavio Exel) wrote:
>
>>hello all,
>>
>>I'm looking for info on the terminal multiplexer program called screen;
>>it it totally impossible to find info on it using web/usenet searches
>>because screen is such a common word; I'd apreciate if someone could
>>point me to any of:
>>- a mailing list or a news group
>>- a 'magic' word that would spot screen related messages in (say)
>> DejaNews;
>>
Did you try freshmeat.net ?? Did a search for 'screen' and it was the
first one on the list. You could then download the source and read the
README files and such as noted below. The homepage location given at
freshmeat is on gnu.org and does not seem to be real useful from what I
could tell. http://www.gnu.org/software/screen/
- Justin
>
> The README file for screen-3.7.3 contains the following
>
> Send bugreports, fixes, enhancements, t-shirts, money, beer & pizza to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> HTH
> Norman
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_/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/ http://justinw.net
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Kulisz)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: wealth
Date: 1 Aug 1999 23:00:56 GMT
In article <7nk2tf$a8f$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Stefaan A Eeckels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Once created, should they forever remain (financially) equal?
>I mean, it's a difficult problem:
>You've got two forklift operators, one who's a penny-pincher,
>and one who's a spendthrift. Do you constantly take from the
>pennypincher to give to the spendthrift, so that they remain
>(financially) equal?
It's irrelevant how many toys one amasses. The inequality of
wealth is irrelevant until the pennypincher manages to amass
Power over the spendthrift (eg, by loansharking him some money).
>The obsession with what others have, and their status above
>or below oneself is a universal human character flaw.
Actually, people don't /much/ care about the status of those
below themselves. They mostly care about the status of those
above themselves. People don't want to dominate others so much
as fear being dominated by others. This is why egalitarianism
is the only way to satisfy everyone.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (GatonSon)
Subject: xv on Red Hat 6.0
Date: 01 Aug 1999 23:13:04 GMT
Does anyone know why Redhat dropped xv from Red Hat 6.0? I want to have xv to
load the root window with a picture instead of a solid color with xsetroot.
Or, is there a new alternative in Red Hat 6.0 which could serve the same
purpose?
Thanks very much for any information you may have.
Regards,
Jason
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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