Linux-Misc Digest #252, Volume #19 Mon, 1 Mar 99 21:13:17 EST
Contents:
Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (Matthias Buelow)
Re: Easy cron question (Bjoern Frantzen)
Re: Easy cron question (Dave Ringkor)
Easy cron question ("Kerry J. Cox")
Re: Is Open Source movement anti bourgeois? (Bill Unruh)
Re: More bad news for NT (Robin Becker)
Re: CD audio --> MP3 (Tim Morris)
Re: How to change date for Unix/Linux? (Eric Levenez)
Re: Linux/FreeBSD compatability (Was Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)) (William
Burrow)
Re: Linux/FreeBSD compatability (Was Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)) (Felix
Schroeter)
Re: Adding something to PATH? (Jim Richardson)
Re: Multilink PPP in Linux with 2 x V90 = 105,333 bps? (bill davidsen)
Re: Cannot determine local hostname? (kernel patch problems) (John Mark Emery)
Re: Adding something to PATH? (Ambrose Li)
Re: Easy cron question (Ambrose Li)
Re: Missing Screen Savers in RedHad v5.2? (diahedrial)
Linuxconf and segfault (Andy Piper)
Changing the input/sampling rates of /dev/audio ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux/FreeBSD compatability (Was Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)) (Alexander
Viro)
Re: Linux/FreeBSD compatability (Was Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)) (void)
Re: Is Open Source movement anti bourgeois? (Seby Varghese)
Re: Encryption of passwords for AuthUserFile on Apache server? (Daevid Vincent)
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Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Buelow)
Date: 1 Mar 99 19:05:49 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Andy Newman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Have any of the Linux developers acknowledged Ken Thompson?
>Do most of them even now who he is?
How irrelevant; as it seems, many linux developers have never
seen Unix at all, so why care about some beardy old hippie? ;)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bjoern Frantzen)
Subject: Re: Easy cron question
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 01:57:14 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kerry J. Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>A friend of mine has a RedHat 5.1 quake server that has a fairly
>extensive cron job listing. However, he keeps getting tons of email
>messages to root fromthe cron process. How does one go about diabling
>any and all incoming messages from cron. Deleting over 500 messages a
>day can get tedious. We've tried piping the messages out to /dev/null
>but I think the syntax is wrong.
>I'd be most appreciative if someone could tell me where exactly I need
>to go to disable this feature, what files are involved, etc.
>Thanks.
Put the line
MAILTO=""
in the top of the crontab-file, it's documented in crontab(5).
--
Bjoern Frantzen - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Dave Ringkor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Easy cron question
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 01:00:54 +0000
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Kerry J. Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >any and all incoming messages from cron. Deleting over 500 messages a
> >day can get tedious. We've tried piping the messages out to /dev/null
> >but I think the syntax is wrong.
> >I'd be most appreciative if someone could tell me where exactly I need
> >to go to disable this feature, what files are involved, etc.
>
> The usual way is to pipe the thing that generated the messages to /dev/null.
> Remember that you need to rerun the crontab command for changes to take
> effect.
*Redirect* (not pipe) the output to /dev/null. For example:
# Crontab file
0,15,30,45 * * * * /path/to/executable > /dev/null
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From: "Kerry J. Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Easy cron question
Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 20:31:43 +0000
A friend of mine has a RedHat 5.1 quake server that has a fairly
extensive cron job listing. However, he keeps getting tons of email
messages to root fromthe cron process. How does one go about diabling
any and all incoming messages from cron. Deleting over 500 messages a
day can get tedious. We've tried piping the messages out to /dev/null
but I think the syntax is wrong.
I'd be most appreciative if someone could tell me where exactly I need
to go to disable this feature, what files are involved, etc.
Thanks.
KJ
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| [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systems Administrator |
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Crossposted-To: soc.culture.indian.kerala
Subject: Re: Is Open Source movement anti bourgeois?
Date: 2 Mar 1999 01:26:17 GMT
In <7bf3cl$9lg$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Seby Varghese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>A random thought : Are the people behind the open source movement anti
>bourgeois and not true economic man, who always perform internal "cost
The "true economic man" is and has always beena myth. People do things
for many motives, not just money. Some economists try to get around this
by saying tht the people still operate economically, only they are
assigning a value to things which the markeyplace does not value.
Unfortunately the analysis is not consistant (A can be more "expensive
than B, B more than C and C more than A in one on one comparisons, and
at times.)
>benefit analysis" before giving away their product ? Is there any historical
>precedence for this kind of movement ?
Sure. people hae been helping each other for centuries.
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From: Robin Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.linux
Subject: Re: More bad news for NT
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 11:59:09 +0000
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, The Ghost In The
Machine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
...
>
>(Side point: Windows 3.1 wasn't all that bad, within its limitations.
>It only got messed up when Windows 95 came out, IMO. See
>http://www.iarchitect.com/mshame.htm for some of the dubious
>design decisions that went into Win95.)
>
...
as for 98 browser integration makes this even more painful than 95.
>----
>[EMAIL PROTECTED], who isn't sure he needs an active desktop, just a
> usable one
--
Robin Becker
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From: Tim Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CD audio --> MP3
Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 14:28:49 -0500
Nguyen-Dai Quy wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm looking for software allowing to convert audio tracks to MP3 format for
> Linux RH5.2.
>
> Thank very much if you CC me your message.
>
> QUY.
Hi, I'm not sure of the home page, but search for "bladeenc" It seems to be
wuite good, and easy to use:
bladeenc <song, or list of songs (*)>
Converts all songs automatically.
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From: Eric Levenez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: How to change date for Unix/Linux?
Date: 1 Mar 1999 20:47:16 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> How does one change the date for a Unix/Linux machine? Answers
> will be greatly appreciated.
You must be root, then type "date MMDDhhmm[[CC]YY][.ss]".
Of course, replace MMDD... by the date you want.
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"We are Microsoft. You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile."
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Burrow)
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Linux/FreeBSD compatability (Was Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?))
Date: 2 Mar 1999 00:55:25 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 1 Mar 1999 21:07:36 GMT,
void <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 1 Mar 1999 16:05:30 -0500, Alexander Viro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>>In article <7beri9$jm9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>>Felix Schroeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>Why? On 4.4BSD, there's sysctl(3) for much kernel related information.
>> ITYM sysctl(2).
>
>ITHM sysctl(3).
>
>narcissus% uname
>FreeBSD
>narcissus% man 2 sysctl
>No entry for sysctl in section 2 of the manual
>narcissus% man 3 sysctl
>Formatting page, please wait...
Obviously it is the other way around on Linux systems. EOD.
--
William Burrow -- New Brunswick, Canada o
Copyright 1999 William Burrow ~ /\
~ ()>()
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Felix Schroeter)
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Linux/FreeBSD compatability (Was Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?))
Date: 1 Mar 1999 19:59:05 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello!
In article <7b9jfp$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
david parsons <o r c @ p e l l . p o r t l a n d . o r . u s> wrote:
>In article <7b6skh$27ts$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Robert Sexton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>I'm still unsure as to why the Linux camp has made /proc into the
>>lazy programmers kernel interface. I guess its easier to open a file
>>than to look up a system call.
> It's easier to get to the information that it is if that information
> is only in a system call. If all the kernel information is locked
> up behind a system call, it's somewhat difficult to get at it from
> a shellscript.
Why? On 4.4BSD, there's sysctl(3) for much kernel related information.
And there's sysctl(8) as a shell frontend.
>[...]
Regards, Felix.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Adding something to PATH?
Date: 1 Mar 1999 19:57:22 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 28 Feb 1999 21:19:18 +0000,
Mykool, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
brought forth the following words...:
>GC wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> How do I add a directory to my PATH in linux?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> --
>> Please post, no e-mail.
>
>Edit your /etc/profile or ~/.bash_profile
>
Or for a one time, or immediate change.
export PATH=$PATH:/extra/directory/path:2nd/extra/yet_another_extra
which is only effective for the current login. edit .bash_profile
or something for a more permanent setup
(I ignore csh &etc here, 'cause I am totally ignorant of them, and because
RH at least, uses bash as the default.)
--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bill davidsen)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.x,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Multilink PPP in Linux with 2 x V90 = 105,333 bps?
Date: 1 Mar 1999 23:34:54 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| If the technitions at said ISP know anything, they can force a 3com or
| ascend box into multi-link ppp conection. then use the eql driver for
| outgoing and multi-link for incomming. ( expect to pay$$$$ to get your
| ISP to do it ) in therory, It should work
Based on one experiment, I think you can do multipath between Linux
boxes by using the equal cost multipath stuff, and can connect to two
totally separate ISPs, specifying both dialup addresses as routes to
your "real address" on the dialup box.
This appeared to work, but was a PITA to setup, so I never bothered
again.
--
bill davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CTO, TMR Associates, Inc
Politicians and diapers have one thing in common. They should both be
changed regularly and for the same reason.
--Ted Symons(?)
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From: John Mark Emery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Cannot determine local hostname? (kernel patch problems)
Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 16:17:39 -0800
Martin wrote:
> Hi John,
> Assuming that you have the correct configuration for the kernel, you
> probably need to rebuild the modules. Boot as normal, login as root and do
> :-
>
> cd /usr/src/linux
> make modules
> make modules_install
>
> This will build new versions of the modules you require and place them in a
> directory tree under /modules/2.0.31. Now reboot, and everything should be
> back to normal. Each time you update the kernel, you will have to repeat
> this process which updates the driver modules to match the new kernel.
>
> Hope this helps
>
> Martin
>
>
Thanks for responding to my post!
Actually, after posting this letter...I found that section in the
Kernel-HOWTO. I did do exactly what you suggested. I ran make modules from
/usr/src/linux (the symbolic link to /usr/src/linux-2.0.31), then ran make
modules_install, then rebooted. Still have the same exact trouble.
I noticed that there aren't any files in the /usr/src/linux/modules directory.
Not until I ran the make modules command. After that, there are still only a
couple of symbolic links and that's it! It seems like the modules are living
in /lib/modules/2.0.31.
I tried loading one of the modules that wouldn't load on boot manually by
running insmod...like this: insmod /lib/modules/2.0.31. I got the following
error message: "The module was compiled on kernel version 2.0.30. This kernel
is version 2.0.31. They don't match! Check that the module is usable with the
current kernel, recompile the module and try again."
Is there any way to recompile a module independently? Is this what I need to
do?
Thanks!
--
John Emery
System Administrator
Sue Mills, Inc.
1840 Market Street
San Francisco, CA 94102
415-864-1899 X146
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From: Ambrose Li <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Adding something to PATH?
Date: 1 Mar 1999 16:03:20 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jim Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Or for a one time, or immediate change.
>
>export PATH=$PATH:/extra/directory/path:2nd/extra/yet_another_extra
>
>which is only effective for the current login. edit .bash_profile
>or something for a more permanent setup
>(I ignore csh &etc here, 'cause I am totally ignorant of them, and because
>RH at least, uses bash as the default.)
Under *csh, the equivalent command is
setenv PATH $PATH:/extra/directory/path:2nd/extra/yet_another_extra
and the corresponding file to edit is .cshrc or .login (depending
on your configuration).
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ambrose Li)
Subject: Re: Easy cron question
Date: 1 Mar 1999 16:05:01 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Kerry J. Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>any and all incoming messages from cron. Deleting over 500 messages a
>day can get tedious. We've tried piping the messages out to /dev/null
>but I think the syntax is wrong.
>I'd be most appreciative if someone could tell me where exactly I need
>to go to disable this feature, what files are involved, etc.
The usual way is to pipe the thing that generated the messages to /dev/null.
Remember that you need to rerun the crontab command for changes to take
effect.
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From: diahedrial <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Missing Screen Savers in RedHad v5.2?
Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 16:56:31 -0800
I had a similar problem, chose the "workstation" install with Redhat
5.2, but no xlock or xscreensaver installed, had to manually install the
rpm's.
-diahedrial
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I just installed Red Hat v5.2 and XFree86. When I checked out the
> Screen Savers.... They don't seem to be anywhere.
> Can anyone tell me what happened to them?
> Previous installs had them all installed.
>
> Ian
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Andy Piper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linuxconf and segfault
Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 21:05:19 +0000
I'm having a pretty major problem with linuxconf. Every time I
try to run it - however I try to run it - it bombs out with a
segmentation fault.
The worst part is that linuxconf apparently gets called by some
of the networking scripts at boot time, and it fails then - as a
result, I have to manually configure my network interfaces once
the machine has come up.
This has been going on for a while now, and I cannot for the life
of me work out what is wrong. I'm running a RedHat 5.1 system
(upgraded in parts, with a 2.2 kernel), so things are maybe a
little bit messy anyway, and it's hard to pin down what's wrong.
I've tried various RPM versions, and this evening I've even
downloaded the latest source version and compiled it - still no
joy.
Basically - HELP! :-/
Thanks for any advice!
Andy
--
Andy Piper [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fareham, Hampshire
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Changing the input/sampling rates of /dev/audio
Date: 1 Mar 1999 20:44:28 -0500
I need to be able to change the sampling rate and input source of
/dev/audio via the command line. The Sound-Playing HOWTO makes a
reference to a program called vrec and a package called snd-utils, but
I cannot find the program nor the package anywhere on sunsite.
As default /dev/audio uses 8 Khz sampling and selects the Microphone
jack as the input source. I want /dev/audio to run at 16 Khz sampling
and use the Line-In jack on the soundcard as the input source.
I am looking for some utility that will allow me to set the attributes
of /dev/audio, or a simple recording program that can dump the AU
audio data to stdout. I think vrec and its associated programs will
do what I'm looking for, but I can't find it. Any Suggestions?
Eric
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alexander Viro)
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Linux/FreeBSD compatability (Was Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?))
Date: 1 Mar 1999 16:05:30 -0500
In article <7beri9$jm9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Felix Schroeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Why? On 4.4BSD, there's sysctl(3) for much kernel related information.
ITYM sysctl(2). Linux also has it, all right. The main problem with
procfs being that there is old code that would break violently on a change.
Probably it should do so, but that's *not* a -STABLE thing. And it wasn't done
in 2.1, so, sorry, it will wait for 2.3 (at least). BTW, idea of ASCII controls
is neat - Plan 9 folks demonstrated it quite nice. Now, the clutter in /proc is
*not* neat, but that's another story ;-/ One of possible ways to fix the whole
things without too bad breakage would be proper unionfs, but that's also 2.3
stuff.
--
"You're one of those condescending Unix computer users!"
"Here's a nickel, kid. Get yourself a better computer" - Dilbert.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (void)
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Linux/FreeBSD compatability (Was Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?))
Date: 1 Mar 1999 21:07:36 GMT
On 1 Mar 1999 16:05:30 -0500, Alexander Viro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>In article <7beri9$jm9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Felix Schroeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Why? On 4.4BSD, there's sysctl(3) for much kernel related information.
> ITYM sysctl(2).
ITHM sysctl(3).
narcissus% uname
FreeBSD
narcissus% man 2 sysctl
No entry for sysctl in section 2 of the manual
narcissus% man 3 sysctl
Formatting page, please wait...
--
Ben
"You have your mind on computers, it seems."
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From: Seby Varghese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.culture.indian.kerala
Subject: Re: Is Open Source movement anti bourgeois?
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 01:25:25 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore) wrote:
> On Mon, 01 Mar 1999 22:12:45 GMT,
> Seby Varghese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > A random thought : Are the people behind the open source movement anti
> > bourgeois and not true economic man, who always perform internal "cost
> > benefit analysis" before giving away their product ? Is there any historical
> > precedence for this kind of movement ?
>
> Proof that a "random thought" is a contradiction.
>
> Please try for coherence next time.
Where do you find the contradiction in the thought ?
>
> --
> Brian Moore | "The Zen nature of a spammer resembles
> Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | a cockroach, except that the cockroach
> Usenet Vandal | is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
> Netscum, Bane of Elves. Peter Olson, Delphi Postmaster
>
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Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 12:58:56 -0800
From: Daevid Vincent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Encryption of passwords for AuthUserFile on Apache server?
> >How, exactly does one encrypt these
> >passwords into a file other than /etc/passwd?
> >I really don't want to have to write my own tool
> >for this, I have too many other rods in the fire already.
I run this program in crontab.daily on one of my machines.
#!/usr/bin/perl
###############################################
## Version 12.08.97 ##
###############################################
## webshadow.cgi ##
###############################################
## Converts /etc/shadow to web auth pw file ##
## (c)1997 Daevid Vincent ##
## Unauthorized use of this code is strictly ##
## prohibited and subject to criminal ##
## prosecution and or death ##
###############################################
%BarList = ( "root", 1, "majordom", 1, "httpd", 1 );
open(ShadowFILE,"</etc/shadow") || die("Can't open input file: $!");
open(SHADOW,">/www/conf/auth/private") || die("Can't open output file: $!");
while (<ShadowFILE>) {
@field = split(/:/);
if ( (!$BarList{$field[0]}) && ($field[1] ne "*") ) { print SHADOW
"$field[0]:$field[1]\n"; }
} # main while loop
close(ShadowFILE);
#Taking the shadow passwords and making them available as world readable is
terribly
#fucking stupid.
chmod("600","/www/conf/auth/*");
print "Updated Web Passwords from /etc/shadow.\n";
then use an auth file like this:
<Directory /usr/local/apache/html/private_area>
AuthName "Private Area"
AuthType Basic
AuthUserFile /usr/local/apache/conf/auth/private
require valid-user
</Directory>
keep in mind that this can be a huge security hole as HTTP requests for failed
logins aren't usually monitored or throw up flags like when a telnet session
fails to login... Use at your own risk.
��5I�
what is http://TheMatrix.com
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