Linux-Misc Digest #252, Volume #24 Tue, 25 Apr 00 11:13:25 EDT
Contents:
Re: Could MS 'Buy' Linux? (Stewart Honsberger)
Re: Floppy format problem. ("David ..")
Re: LILO stops at LI (Henry)
Re: LILO stops at LI (Henry)
need help with a modem config (Conexant) ("Kirk Wythers")
need help with a modem config (Conexant) ("Kirk Wythers")
need help with a modem config (Conexant) ("Kirk Wythers")
need help with a modem config (Conexant) ("Kirk Wythers")
Getting the right lib for an app? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Access Windows files from Linux in the same box (Deja User)
check ca... (Simon Lemieux)
Re: what's up with .tar, .gz., .sh??? (Dances With Crows)
A metaphor of the real. ("Timothy Rue")
Re: LILO stops at LI (Henry)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stewart Honsberger)
Subject: Re: Could MS 'Buy' Linux?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 03:18:17 GMT
On Sun, 23 Apr 2000 20:41:39 -0400, Matt Friedman wrote:
>On the other hand, if MS was so inclined, it could conceivably buy out a
>couple of the major distributions, say Red Hat and SuSE, and leverage
>them to marginalize all the other distributions by flooding the market,
>pre-installing them on major systems and making MS software available
>for Linux that installs REALLY well on their own distribution(s), but's
>a pain in the butt to install on others.
They could try, but isn't that what's been happening with Win'9* already?
The Linux community has never been entirely gung-ho on being the popular
desktop OS of the day, only in maintaining a quality product. My answer to
your suggestion is that the Linux community would shrug their shoulders,
continue to use standard/normal/non-MS distributions, and the world would
continue as if it had never happened.
That's why MS can't buy Linux - Linux isn't an entity in and of itself. If
I wanted to continue development of Linux and call it Stewix I quite
conceivably could. If people liked Stewix, they'd use it. If not..
A group of hackers would take over the development of Linux, and Microsoft
would find themselves with a couple of big investments that amounted to,
basically, nothing. It's analogous to buying water. ;>
>I may be wrong, and there are a lot of people on this NG who'd disagree
>with me, but I suspect a whole lot of people would use a MS Linux
>distribution if it meant they could use MS applications on it. As Bob
>Young says, people don't choose operating systems, they choose
>applications. And MS has some mighty popular applications.
Ha, I say, and *HA!*
MS also has some very popular OSs. I won't deny that Win'9* is the most
popular (widely used) OS on the planet. They use marketting and underhanded
(not to mention illegal) business tactics to push their products. Pre-
installation, so-called integration, etc..
MS is living proof that you don't need a good product as long as you have
a good marketting division.
I, BTW, chose Linux for Linux. The more applications I can get the better,
but I love the fact that Linux is solid as a rock, and that applications
will go away if I tell it to (every OS should have a 'kill -9' :> ).
Word? No thanks. I'll stick to WordPerfect.
Excell? I prefer Lotus 1-2-3, thankyouverymuch.
PowerPoint? Well, {snicker} what's there to say about it?
The fact that their spreadsheet program comes with a flight simulator tells
enough about their product line. The only product of theirs I truly prefer
over all others is their solitaire game. I installed Win'98 under VMWare
for about 50/50 my online banking and solitaire.
>The other distributions wouldn't necessarily go away, though I suspect
>Corel would be an early casualty. Debian and Slackware would continue to
>be used by the hackers, but MS would be able to push its own Linux into
>the enterprise and onto desktops.
I wouldn't use a pre-installed Linux if I were paid.. Well, I'd suggest
otherwise, but hell; if they're paying me to ;>
I'm not even a hardcore Linux power user. I can just picture others hovering
over their consoles installing one package at a time, manually writing the
Makefiles for the compiles <G>
>It could bundle some compelling software and make the case to the suits
>that the only viable business Linux is MS Linux,
If I want a server-Linux, I'll stay as far away from MS as possible. I've
seen what their line of server products can do, and frankly, I'm quite
unimpressed.
>MS could use its marketing machine to convincingly portray Linux as an old
>technology,
HAHAHAHHA! Sorry, pal, but you're a day late and a dollar short!
Haven't you seen their "Linux Myths" page? They already tried that. Sorry. :>
>Of course,all of this is highly unlikely and highly improbable. Aside
>from the obvious legal barriers, MS would have to control Red Hat to
>make it work,
Don't forget SuSE. SuSE is very quickly becomming a major player, especially
if you were to consider the German market.
--
Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://sprk.com/blackdeath/
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
Humming along under SuSE 6.4, Linux 2.2.14
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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Floppy format problem.
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 22:13:13 -0500
Charles Sullivan wrote:
>
> Has anyone successfully formatted a 5.25" double-density 360K
> floppy diskette on a high-density 1.2 Meg floppy drive under
> Linux, specifically RedHat 6.0? Or any version of Linux?
>
> I use the command:
> fdformat /dev/fd0d360
>
> and get the following:
> [csul@localhost csul]$ fdformat /dev/fd0d360
> Double-sided, 40 tracks, 9 sec/track. Total capacity 360 kB.
> Formatting ... done
> Verifying ... end_request: I/O error, dev 02:04 (floppy), sector 0
> Read: : Input/output error
> Problem reading cylinder 0, expected 9216, read -1
> [csul@localhost csul]$ end_request: I/O error, dev 02:04 (floppy), sector
> 2
> end_request: I/O error, dev 02:04 (floppy), sector 4
> end_request: I/O error, dev 02:04 (floppy), sector 6
> end_request: I/O error, dev 02:04 (floppy), sector 9
> <etc>
>
> I don't have this problem when formatting a high-density 1.2 Meg
> floppy under Linux, and Win 98 will format either 360K or 1.2 Meg
> without a problem. I've also tried a different floppy drive
> with the same results. (Both are Teac drives; one is about 10 years
> old and the other is new.)
>
> Any suggestions as to what I might be doing wrong? Or is this a
> bug?
>
> Regards,
> Charles Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You might try fdformat /dev/fd0H360
--
Registered with the Linux Counter. http://counter.li.org
ID # 123538
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From: Henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LILO stops at LI
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 03:30:05 GMT
Dear Bernadino
Thanks for your help. I've tried this and all i could find in the BIOS
under the "LBA mode control" is "enabled". This has been the setting all
along and i didn't change anything. Neither can i find what else is there
in the BIOS that covers that.
As I need to get back into windows urgently, i wonder if there is a way i
can "uninstall" the redhat6.1 or remove the linux partitions and give full
expansion to Windows at the moment? What else is there i need to do to get
back?
Thanks
Henry
bernardino.spensieri wrote:
>
> Henry wrote:
> >
> > Dear folks
> >
> > I've Redhat 6.1 installed as a partition on a HD, sharing with Win95.
It
> > works fine during the "LILO boot:", where i can choose
> > between "windows"(win95) and "linux" until i use Partition Magic to
reduce
> > the size of my redhat partition. I was trying to transfer some empty
space
> > within the main redhat partition (not the swap linux swap partition) to
> > the Windows partition. The notebook then stops at "LI" whenever i try
> > booting up the machine again.
>
> This happened to me when I first installed Redhat 6.0. Their knowlege
> base told me to get into the BIOS and set the hard drives to LBA which
> stands for Linear Block Addressing. What that means, I do not know.
> I'm a CHEM, not a COMP.
>
> Whether this is chancey to just go in and turn on LBA I'm not sure.
> Maybe I got lucky and noting bad happens (can someone confirm this?).
> All I know is that it worked for me!
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> --
> ___________ Beny
> / _______ / / \ | King of the cranium,
> \___\ / / Great one of the grey matter,
> / / Magnificent one of the mind,
> / / Baron of brain,
> |__| The one,
> __ The only, The Riddler
> / \
> \__/ http://on.to/riddlers-world
>
> "I'm a humble person, really
> I'm actually much greater than I think I am..."
--
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http://www.help.com/
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From: Henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LILO stops at LI
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 03:30:07 GMT
Dear Leonard
Thank you for the detailed explanation. Unfortunately i've been
unsuccessful. After getting into DOS mode, i tried fdisk/mbr and there
wasn't any response form teh laptop. Upon rebooting, the pc just stopped
at the same stage, now without the "LI". I tried this both with and
without the write protection for the boot record feature turned on within
the BIOS but the result remained unchanged.
Next, i downloaded (from another pc) both the DOS and Linux version of the
root/boot rescue disk from www.toms.net/rb/home.html. Within the readme,
it was written i should use the linux version of it if i already have
linux install on teh pc. However, as the files (expanded or not) are too
big to fit into a floppy, i couldn't get it into the laptop. I only have
winzip as a decompresion tool but it works only under Windows. So there is
no way i can try that. Do you have any suggestions?
At present, as i need to get into Windows urgently, can i know if there is
anyway i can remove the entire redhat partitions (including its swap
partition) and give full expansion to Windows? I'll get back to linux
again when i'm more settled. I was told that the fdisk in Windows cannot
do the job as it can't recognise the linux partitions. What do you
suggest? I've also went to redhat's website but couldn't download just the
LILO component. I'm rather lost and hope you can advice me further. Don't
forget though that i don't have any linux CD or cd burner with me. The
Redhat was installed by a friend when i went overseas recently, adding to
the mess.
Many Thanks
Henry
Leonard Evens wrote:
>
> Henry wrote:
> >
> > Dear folks
> >
> > I've Redhat 6.1 installed as a partition on a HD, sharing with Win95.
It
> > works fine during the "LILO boot:", where i can choose
> > between "windows"(win95) and "linux" until i use Partition Magic to
reduce
> > the size of my redhat partition. I was trying to transfer some empty
space
> > within the main redhat partition (not the swap linux swap partition) to
> > the Windows partition. The notebook then stops at "LI" whenever i try
> > booting up the machine again.
> >
> > Looking through the postings yield no result as no one seems to face
the
> > same problem as me, though suffering the same fate. I do not have any
> > backup of my data or any info on those /dev/hda..etc info.
> >
> > I do not know how to create a boot disk to get ito Windows again,
except
> > the Windows created one, which when i tried, gets me to A:\. However i
> > couldn't get into Win95 again fom C:\. The error message i got
was "VFAT
> > device initialization faied. A device or resource required by VFAT is
not
> > present or is unavailable. VFAT cannot continue loading. System
Halted."
> >
> > Can anyone kindly help me please? I don't really understand the other
help
> > files.
> >
> > Henry
> >
> > --
> > Posted via CNET Help.com
> > http://www.help.com/
>
> If you need to get into Windows quickly, boot from a DOS/Windows
> (startup) floppy and run the (DOS) command
> fdisk/mbr
> This should restore your master boot record to the default and
> you should be able to boot Windows.
> Someone else has already pointed out that you changed the absolute
> addresses of some critical files that lilo uses to boot Linux.
> So you have to run lilo again. If you never made a boot
> floppy, you will have to use a rescue disk. You can do this
> with the RedHat CD, but it is a bit subtle, so I recommend instead
> getting Tom's Root/Boot disk. I'm pretty sure this can be
> installed under Windows and it may be found at
>
> www.toms.net/rb/home.html
>
> This will give you a boot floppy which will load a form of Linux
> in a ramdisk in memory which is independent of your system.
> Then I think the following should work. Make a mount point by
> mkdir /a
> Then mount your root file system. Let's assume for the sake of
> argument it is /dev/hda5 (but it could be something else.)
> mount /dev/hda5 /a
> ls /a
> should let you look at it. If it has and etc subdirectory with
> etc/lilo.conf a file, it is the right thing. Then run
> lilo -r /a
> and that should restore your lilo boot loader. If it worked
> before to boot Windows, it should still do so provided you
> didn't do something radical with your Windows partition.
> It is possible the above command won't work. In that case
> try
> /a/sbin/lilo -r /a
> When you've finished with running lilo do,
> umount /a
> and reboot. (You wan't to be sure any changed you made to
> the partition are actually written out to the disk.)
>
> --
>
> Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
> Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
--
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From: "Kirk Wythers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,linux.redhat.ppp,linux.redhat.install
Subject: need help with a modem config (Conexant)
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 21:45:12 -0700
I need some help configuring a ppp on a redhat 6.2 box. My modem is a
Conexant MDP3900V-U modem working under windows on COM2.
I have tried linuxconfig and RP3 to get this sucker working. RP3 can't
locate the modem and when I configure manually, I get the error "Can't open
ttyS1" when I run debug. Isn't ttyS1 equivalent to COM2? This is a hardware
modem. What am doing wrong here?
Thanks,
Kirk
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From: "Kirk Wythers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,linux.redhat.ppp,linux.redhat.install
Subject: need help with a modem config (Conexant)
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 21:46:33 -0700
I need some help configuring a ppp on a redhat 6.2 box. My modem is a
Conexant MDP3900V-U modem working under windows on COM2.
I have tried linuxconfig and RP3 to get this sucker working. RP3 can't
locate the modem and when I configure manually, I get the error "Can't open
ttyS1" when I run debug. Isn't ttyS1 equivalent to COM2? This is a hardware
modem. What am doing wrong here?
Thanks,
Kirk
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From: "Kirk Wythers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,linux.redhat.ppp,linux.redhat.install
Subject: need help with a modem config (Conexant)
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 21:47:03 -0700
I need some help configuring a ppp on a redhat 6.2 box. My modem is a
Conexant MDP3900V-U modem working under windows on COM2.
I have tried linuxconfig and RP3 to get this sucker working. RP3 can't
locate the modem and when I configure manually, I get the error "Can't open
ttyS1" when I run debug. Isn't ttyS1 equivalent to COM2? This is a hardware
modem. What am doing wrong here?
Thanks,
Kirk
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From: "Kirk Wythers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,linux.redhat.ppp,linux.redhat.install
Subject: need help with a modem config (Conexant)
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 21:47:09 -0700
I need some help configuring a ppp on a redhat 6.2 box. My modem is a
Conexant MDP3900V-U modem working under windows on COM2.
I have tried linuxconfig and RP3 to get this sucker working. RP3 can't
locate the modem and when I configure manually, I get the error "Can't open
ttyS1" when I run debug. Isn't ttyS1 equivalent to COM2? This is a hardware
modem. What am doing wrong here?
Thanks,
Kirk
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Getting the right lib for an app?
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 03:41:52 GMT
I have an app that when I try to run it I get:
error in loading shared libraries: libXm.so.1: cannot open shared object
file: No such file or directory.
How do I get this libXm.so.1?
I do not have the source code so I cant recompile the app.
I have try "ln -s libXm.so libXm.so.1...still won't work...
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: Deja User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Access Windows files from Linux in the same box
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 04:01:42 GMT
Hi, there:
I'm goint to install Linux in a seperate partition on my Win98 PC.
Is it possible for me to access files (mostly ACSII source code) in
the Windows partition from within Linux, without using a second PC in
the network or using the floppy disk?
Thanks,
Liu Bin
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: Simon Lemieux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: check ca...
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 04:22:41 GMT
Ca pourrait t'interesser...
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Diamond Rio 500
Date: 18 Apr 2000 00:00:00 GMT
Newsgroups: rec.music.ambient
Hi everyone,
I bought a Diamond Rio 500 MP3 player from the site Mobshop.com. I got
it for $200 when it retails about $270. They are offering the same deal
this week, so I though you might want to know. Look here:
http://www.mobshop.com/search?keyword=mp500
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: what's up with .tar, .gz., .sh???
Date: 24 Apr 2000 00:29:23 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 24 Apr 2000 00:30:04 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>I am a newbie to Linux/UNIX
>the files I downloaded from the net: staroffice, QuakeIII Arena etc. end
>with .tar, .gz. or .sh.
>what's does that mean and
>how do I open/install these programs??
Furrfu. Read The Fine Manual! http://www.linuxnewbie.org
http://www.linuxdoc.org
.tar: Archive, always a bunch of files tacked together using the
"tar" command. "tar xvf BLAH.tar ; cd BLAH ; less README INSTALL"
.gz: Often combined with .tar, this is a file that's been compressed with
gzip. If you have a .tar.gz or .tgz file, you'd "tar xvzf BLAH.tar.gz
; cd BLAH ; less README INSTALL"
.sh: Sometimes, programs are shipped as shell scripts that contain
compressed data. "chmod +x BLAH.sh ; ./BLAH.sh" should extract that
compressed data fairly easily." HTH, HAND, RTFM...
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows \###| Programmers are playwrights
There is no Darkness in Eternity \##| Computers are lousy actors
But only Light too dim for us to see \#| Lusers are vicious drama critics
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| BOFHen burn down theatres.
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From: "Timothy Rue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: A metaphor of the real.
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 04:30:03 GMT
Grasping a metapor can help one to grasp a change in the way you preceive
something real. First the Metaphor..... then read on for the REAL.
Seen the Movie "The Matrix"?
Well, it's a metaphor for the REAL.
Not only have I been saying this but Carrie-Ann Moss also said it in an
interview.
Anyway, here is a little of the REAL in parrallel of the metaphor.
---
The
*THREE*
M E T A S
M E T A C o r t e x
M E T A C O R T E C H S
M E T A P h o r s
-or-
Mind Core-Technology FOR
The Natural Laws of the Physical Phenomenon
-or-
the carrier wave
of how we use ABSTRACTIONS
-or-
of communications
-- identify --
-THE MATRIX-
The AI (artificial intelligence) is the by-product illusion
of using this carrier wave thru the tool of computers.
But in hiding the fact of AI being AN ILLUSION:
Is what makes it wrong!
Artificial Intelligence - Nothing is naturally that stupid!
*********
THREE Agents: (The primary programming triplet)
1-Input (an agent)
2-Processing (agent Smith)
3-Output (another agent)
---
Nebuchadnezzar = the ship each of us are.
Containing the *NINE* things we do in anything we do.
1-Switch - To start/stop something
2-Apoc - To keep track of time and place
3-Tank - To obtain/get something
4-Mouse - Where to get something from
5-Dozer - To give/send something
6-Neo - To do things ONE step at a time
7-Morpheus - To Look-up meaning of things
8-Trinity - To identify things
9-Cypher - To constrain what you look-up (morpheus)
and identify (trinity)
---
The Zion codes - The uniqueness of each one of us in our
talents, knowledge, skill, experience, life, etc..
*********
Proof of why The Matrix is real.
In a way simple for people to understand.
Critical MASS Size is the common denominator.
This is the Third Time in Human Evolution
First we had to move from the bicameral mind to the
conscious mind to be able to create and use
higher level abstractions.
Society reached a Critical MASS Size.
(Tower of Babel)
Second was the concept of Zero.
Business reached Critical MASS Size
(counting inventory, money and simple math).
The Zero got us past limited Roman Numerals.
Third time it's the Critical MASS Size of
Abstraction Sets.
As over 3000 programming language are only a part of the
computer industries AWA Broadcast Babel Tower.
This third solution is what the Movie is a
M E T A p h o r
4.
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OK, there is more:
http://www.mindspring.com/~timrue/priorart.html
see written comment #4 to the priorart responces
or more directly:
http://www.mindspring.com/~timrue/KNMVIC.html
And there is more!
besides all else that has been happening in the computer industry, there
is a gravity point that is causing change to happen.
One place that change is being felt and communicated is thru the Amiga
corporations new online newsletter "AmigaWorld" (not the old mag).
http://www.amiga.com/press/zine/4-17-00/AW1.htm
Keep in mind that what you read in the newsletter has been filtered thru
the traditional business model of the computer industry and therefor it
has been altered, distorted in order to try and maintain traditional
directions at a time when tradition is ment to pass away. In no way Am I
asking you to believe what you read will come about but to ask yourself
how it can be done, a system even better than stated.
In the metaphor of the movie "the matrix" you could say that the matrix
old is falling (MS and the matrix Bill Gates once showed to a TIME
magizine reporter) but not without the effort to build a new matrix in
order to maintain "control"...
Linux has had no concern about MS, though linux is really just a kernel
with GNU all around it. This is not to say linux/gnu doesn't have it's
short commings.
Linux is at an opposite end of a spectum where MS is the other end. Both
in their own ways being at extreams and therefor having problems specific
to the business model they each follow.
Of the computer industry, the bottom line is that of software creation.
It was the game of who had the most software to run that put MS ahead of
the pack many years ago.
Software creation remains a controlling issue. Whatever platform software
creation can be done most for, will have a solid stand in the computer
industry. Linux pulled on the works of GNU and continues to pull on such
a wide effort of many.
Ease of use seems to be an issue of linux, weither you see this or not.
One of the areas Linux seems to lack power in is in having a established
user oriented interprocess communication port standard, as what Arexx
causes as a byproduct on the Amiga.
There are three primary user interfaces in computing.
The command line interface.
The OS and Application GUIs
And finally the user oriented application/functionality side doors that
allows users to tie applications and other such functionality together as
they see fit.
However, I have seen ways to provide this in linux in one way or another.
and being that most all application are GPL open source, it seems that
adding such a side door to existing applications can not only be done but
standardized so to be simple to add.
The Movie is in fact a metaphor for the REAL and that goes all the way to
seeing the code directly for what it is, the nine action constants and
their user oriented functionality applied, so to remove the "control" of
the industry over what the users can and cannot do on their own.
Linux is a system based on traditional manual programming practices, a
system more suited to developers than user. There is no reason for this to
stay so exclusive away from the general user, which in turn does keep this
system from growing in use even faster than it is.
The GNU Hurd kernel is probably more suited to a more modular direction
than the linux kernel, but as GNU is not kernal specific then a conversion
to hurd from linux can be done if and when it is desired and allowable.
Even Linus has said linux has limitation.
But the biggest limitation is that of software creation, what has been
defined and labeled as the "software crisis." And that is something that
is an illusion pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth. That
programming is the process of automating actions that can be dynamic in
nature, and this does in fact include the automation of the actions of
programming.
Auto-coding........ what better way to overcome such problems that rely
on the existance of an illusion, than to expose the illusion via solving
it?
Unfortunately, or fortunately (depending on your perspective) Amiga Corps
does not want to do so in a manner consistant with credit honestly given
and allowed to be gotten where it is due. But rather is intent on
following more an MS direction of user entrapment abuse than genuine open
directions.
Why is it that no matter where you go in the computer industry, what
platform you go to, there is something lacking in the product that falsely
limits user accessibility to the abstraction tool that computers really
are?
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So what can I do with a full tower case, that contains 6x CD, both sizes
of floppy drives, a colorado tape backup, a syquest 200 meg drive and some
pentium board that i don't know even works, but all is dated no earlier
than 1995.... I also have a few other parts laying around like harddrives
andeven some gateway monitor. even a few other mother boards for pre
pentium chips.... But I do not believe I have the complete makings of a
system (though I also have a keyboard and mouse somewhere) ....
things lacking include ram, video board, etc.... the sort of things that
may be somewhat minor to the overall picture of getting a system upo and
going.
On top of these is the fact that I either don't have the time to trial
and error it together myself or want to. Nor do I, in all the monies I've
spend to go nowhere, want to spend more for the same nowhereness.
Of course, I have no interest in getting a windows system up and that
leaves me with linux.
What shall I do?
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From: Henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LILO stops at LI
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 04:30:09 GMT
Dear John
Thanks for your help. Unfortunately as i can't access my linux partition,
there isn't much i can do abotu the files you mentioned. As i've posted to
a few helpful others, i intend to pull out completely and start all over
again later as i need desperately to get into Windows.
Do you have any suggestions as to how can i remove the Redhat partitions
(incl the swap partn) completely and expand the Windows partition? What
about the mbr and such? Is there anything else i need to do? I was told i
cannnot use the fdisk from Dos to remove them as it won't recognise them.
Is that true?
Once again, thanks for your help.
Henry
John in SD wrote:
>
> In reducing the size of your RedHat partition, two files critical to
> the boot process moved: /boot/map and /boot/boot.b. These files are
> referenced at absolute disk locations from the LILO first stage loader
> (the guy who puts out the 'LI').
>
> Boot from a floppy and then re-run LILO to reinstall the loader.
>
> --John
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, 13 Apr 2000 10:30:04 GMT, Henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> >Dear folks
> >
> >I've Redhat 6.1 installed as a partition on a HD, sharing with Win95.
It
> >works fine during the "LILO boot:", where i can choose
> >between "windows"(win95) and "linux" until i use Partition Magic to
reduce
> >the size of my redhat partition. I was trying to transfer some empty
space
> >within the main redhat partition (not the swap linux swap partition) to
> >the Windows partition. The notebook then stops at "LI" whenever i try
> >booting up the machine again.
> >
> >Looking through the postings yield no result as no one seems to face
the
> >same problem as me, though suffering the same fate. I do not have any
> >backup of my data or any info on those /dev/hda..etc info.
> >
> >I do not know how to create a boot disk to get ito Windows again,
except
> >the Windows created one, which when i tried, gets me to A:\. However i
> >couldn't get into Win95 again fom C:\. The error message i got
was "VFAT
> >device initialization faied. A device or resource required by VFAT is
not
> >present or is unavailable. VFAT cannot continue loading. System Halted."
> >
> >Can anyone kindly help me please? I don't really understand the other
help
> >files.
> >
> >Henry
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