Linux-Misc Digest #362, Volume #20 Wed, 26 May 99 23:13:07 EDT
Contents:
Re: word processing, what to use? (Michel)
Re: G200? (Jason Nickerson)
Re: Restrict Directory access (Ben Short)
Hp Deskjet 710C (Stephane Ricard)
Re: Re-placing LILO (Matt Starnes)
Re: New Star office for glibc 2.1 (Michel)
Re: About SuSE Linux 6.1 (Jaime Mantel)
New knfsd trouble (was Re: NFS with Redhat 6 server and clients) ("G. Hugh SONG")
Re: Fun things to do with an extra linux box ("Carl Hilinski")
Re: connecting-computers ("Carl Hilinski")
Re: Netscape 4.51 suddenly exits ????????????? (Michel)
Re: Netscape 4.6 .rpm, .deb? was, Re: Netscape 4.51 suddenly exits (Michel)
Re: * * * Mindcraft offer to re-run Linux vs NT test (Christopher Browne)
Re: NT the best web platform? (Christopher Browne)
Re: Linux PPP ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux books (Jim Hill)
Re: * * * Mindcraft offer to re-run Linux vs NT test (Christopher Browne)
FDD Tape Drive--The Sequel (Adam J)
Re: Starting X at boot-up (Michel)
Re: Normal user can't mount floppy on RedHat 6.0..why???? (David Taylor)
Re: Road Runner Customer User Agreement Violation - Using Alternative Operating
Systems ("Timur Tabi")
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From: Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: word processing, what to use?
Date: 26 May 1999 20:04:06 -0500
David Steuber wrote:
D. Vrabel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Since when was vi a word processor? vi is only a text editor.
Wrong! vi is also a piece of shit.
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From: Jason Nickerson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: G200?
Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 19:05:39 -0600
Chris Knapp wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I'm using RH5.2. Is support for the G200 included out of the box? I can't
> seem to get X to work properly.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Chris
I have Red Hat 5.1 and it did not recognize my G200 either.
Since moved over to OpenLinux 1.3 and they didn't support G200 either.
Downloaded the SuSe driver, tweaked it, and am running at 1024x768 32bpp.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ben Short)
Subject: Re: Restrict Directory access
Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 10:51:00 +1000
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
says...
> Howdy all.
>
> I want to restrict a users access to one single directory.
>
> The directory is:
> /usr/local/home/pana/sites/acct/pana-colo
>
> When the user pana-colo logs in, I dont want them to be able to go any
> higher than the pana-colo directory they are in by default. I tried
> changing the permisions on the acct directory to 771,751, and a couple
> of others, but when the user does not have read access to the parent
> directory, the getcwd comand fails on login, saying it cant read the
> parent directory.
>
> What am I doing wrong?
>
> Darren
>
>
Logs in How? Telnet? FTP?
Ben
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From: Stephane Ricard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Hp Deskjet 710C
Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 20:31:57 -0400
Hi!
I'm running redhat 5.1 and i try to install my new Deskjet 710C.
I install the pbm2ppa programs from Tim Norman at www.httptech.com to
manage my printer, but it's not working.
The problem seems to be that it does'nt "recognize" the Alladin
Ghostscript provided with RedHat. I went in the source and it looks for
a script beginning with P1 or P2.
Is there someone who make it work with RedHat 5.1 and Alladin
Ghostscript, if not the case, does somebody knows where i can find one
of those Ghostscript version?
" Next time i'm gonna look at the news groups before to go shopping"
-- A wise guy --
Stephane Ricard
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
tel.:(450) 656-0473
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From: Matt Starnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Re-placing LILO
Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 16:13:27 -0500
Technical Computing Services wrote:
> Installed SuSE 6.1 on my 2nd hard drive (/dev/hdb). Win95 resides on
> the first
> hard drive.
>
> After fragging the 2nd hard drive a few times, I finally succeeded
> installing
> SuSE 6.1 and putting LILO on the first hard drive....or so I thought.
>
> I rebooted and received the "LILO" prompt. Chose 'linux' and booted
> into
> Linux just fine.
>
> Shut down, restarted. All that did appear was "LI"
>
> Well, this is normal, I thought. At least I have System Commander.
> System Commander does let me boot into Win95, but of course doesn't
> let me into Linux.
>
> I'd like to re-install LILO as my boot loader, but I'm not exactly sure
> how
> to do this once I'm past the initial install phase.
>
> Could someone who knows how to do this perchance point me in the
> right direction? For the moment, I'm booting into Win with System
> Command and Linux with a boot disk (see how cumbersome this is?)
>
> Much thanks to anyone who can rescuse me from this slight madness!
You can use your initial system boot disk to boot back into linux. At the
boot prompt you should be able to type:
mount root=/dev/hda2 ro
Replace the hda2 with whatever your linux partition is. This will get you
back and you can reinstall LILO. If the mount root doesn't work, it might
be mount boot. Sorry that I can't remember.
Matt
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From: Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: New Star office for glibc 2.1
Date: 26 May 1999 20:46:01 -0500
Peter Englmaier wrote:
>
> I didn't say it's impossible. I run 5.0 in RH6.0 using
> the trick I posted here. Somebody else posted a way
> to install SO by patching the binaries. I downloaded
> that, because I thought it would fix my problem as
> well, but than I could not print. My fix allows you
> to print but not install. Without print, staroffice
> would be pretty useless for me. Somebody else again
> posted a way to fix the print problem with a statically
> linked bash. My fix avoids this extra trouble.
> Charles E Taylor IV wrote:
The fix is to download the version 5.1
It is 74MB so be patient. When you install it complains that it doesn't
find certain libraries and warns you that it may not work for you. It must
mean that it is compiled with the glibc2 library. But once it's installed
you will find out that it works. The only problem that I found was in the
install when it completed it told me that it was creating a link to my
KDE menu which is odd since not only I didn't install KDE but I installed
gnome. When I feel like it I will make a link on the gnome menu.
It complained that java was not installed, what you I need to install?
By the way Netscape 4.6 libc5 US version goes in a black hole whenever I get to
a java site. With Netscape 4.5 glic2 US version it crashes after a bit on java
sites.
As for Star Office it works great. I will spend the $40 sometime this summer, it's
worth the money.
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From: Jaime Mantel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: About SuSE Linux 6.1
Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 18:42:03 -0700
I agree. I am using both SuSE 6.0 and SuSE 6.1. 6.0 is a rock and
I have had very few problems with it. 6.1 is quite good also. I have
not been using it as long so cannot speak to any major problems but
6.1 is a joy compared to RH6.0. I have nothing but minor problems
with RH 6.0. The worst being my gnome desktop keeps crashing when
ever I open the CDROM door. It is a scsi cdrom but SuSE has no
problems with it. And the Xserver for the ATI card I have looks great
under SuSE but crappy under RH6.0. Same Xserver same resolution and
color depth. If I didn't need to do some configuration testing with
RH6.0
I wouldn't use it. And SuSE is less than half the price of RH.
>
> I don't think so. I find SuSE6.1 as good as any and better than most. The
> amount of included software is superb, and config. tools are pretty good.
> Sure, SuSE6.1 has its quirks and bugs -- but so does any distro. In my
> hands, I've found SuSE far better than RH -- although I will stand corrected
> if someone could tell me how to stop RH continually freezing my system
> (440LX P11-300 128MB 12GB SBPro AGP Viper330)
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:7ieh9v$199$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Hello.
> >
> > I did a search for SuSE Linux 6.1 on DejaNews and
> > from the results, it seems people have been having
> > some major headaches with the new version.
> >
> > Is the release so bad that I should not install the
> > version I bought and return it to the store?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > -Godfrey Degamo
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
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From: "G. Hugh SONG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: New knfsd trouble (was Re: NFS with Redhat 6 server and clients)
Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 10:06:26 +0900
Adnan Vora wrote:
>
> Another thing... I am using RedHat 5.2...
>
> On Wed, 26 May 1999, Adnan Vora wrote:
>
> > Date: Wed, 26 MAY 1999 13:39:03 -0500
> > From: Adnan Vora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Newgroups: comp.os.linux.networking, comp.os.linux.misc, linux.redhat.misc
> > Subject: Re: NFS with Redhat 6 server and clients
> >
> > On Wed, 26 May 1999, Rich Piotrowski wrote:
> >
> > Thats exactly what my exports file says :
> >
> > /filesystem1 abc1.xyz.edu(rw) abc2.xyz.edu (rw) ....
> > /filesystem2 abc1.xyz.edu(rw) abc2.xyz.edu (rw) ....
> >
> >
> > The problem is only one client machine (out of 8) can access the remote
> > filesystem... besides even the one that can access the filesystem cannot
> > access the _other_ filesystem which is also exported..
> > These machines are (to the best of my knowledge) identically setup...
> > with the required differences ofcourse...
> > but still ... "permission denied"
> >
> > Any clues?
> >
> > Thanx
> > Adnan Vora
> >
> > PS the one that _can_ access a remote filesystem is not even the 1st
> > on the list...
> >
> >
> > > Date: Wed, 26 MAY 1999 12:15:36 GMT
> > > From: Rich Piotrowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Newgroups: comp.os.linux.networking, comp.os.linux.misc, linux.redhat.misc
> > > Subject: Re: NFS with Redhat 6 server and clients
> > >
> > > On Wed, 26 May 1999 14:56:22 +0900, "G. Hugh SONG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >Jon Paterson wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> I am having a frustrating problem with a Redhat 6 server that was
> > > >> previously a redhat 5.2 server rebuilt.
> > > >>
> > > >> I have a Linux client (redhat 6.0 also) that is trying to connect to the
> > > >> server and is always getting the "permission denied" message.
> > > >>
> > > >> There is nothing wrong with the exports file, I have even deleted it and
> > > >> done the configuration through Linuxconf, and the same error exists.
> > > >>
> > > >> I think that it may have something to do with Knfsd, but am not sure
> > > >> where to look.
> > > >>
> > > >> can anyone help or point me in the right direction?
> > > >>
> > > >> regards,
> > > >>
> > > >> Jon Paterson
> > > >
> > > >I am having the same problem on both systems of Intel/Linux and
> > > >Alpha/Linux. The error message reads as
> > > >
> > > >fh_verify: ///permission failure, acc=3 error=13
> > > >
> > > >and something similar but related to nfs-something.
> > > >
> > > >I guess that it is not related to RedHat6.0. In my case,
> > > >it appears that it is related to the recent kernels, 2.2.8 and
> > > >2.2.9. It appears that it does no harm on the system. But,
> > > >certainly, it makes me quite nervous.
> > > >
> > > >Unfortunately, I don't know more than that.
> > > >
> > > >Regards,
> > > >
> > > >--
> > > >G. Hugh Song
> > >
> > > Simple!
> > >
> > > Redhat 6.0 NFS now defaults to Read-only. Check your setup in
> > > linuxconf again! Or check man exports. My exports file now loks like
> > > this.
> > >
> > > / machine.name(rw)
> > >
> > > Note the addition of the "(rw)" switch to allow read-write.
> > >
> > > Rich Piotrowski
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > **********************************************************************
> > Adnan Vora Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Adnan Vora Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
My error messages on the server console are
fh_verify: ///permission denied, ...
nfs_stat_to_errno: bad nfs status return number ...
My guess is that we are all using the knfsd package and Kernel-2.2.?.
In /usr/src/linux-2.2.?/Documentation/Changes file, it is
explicitly stated that "NFS is currently under heavy revision" to
work as a kernel-based NFS.
I wish that the stable kernels work a little more "stably" than they
do now. I do not subscribe to the kernel development mailing list.
If someone do, please post this to the mailing list. Thank you.
Regards,
--
G. Hugh Song
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From: "Carl Hilinski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Fun things to do with an extra linux box
Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 21:53:23 -0400
There's a quakeii dedicated server for Linux. Also, the Halflife server for
linux was just released.
You can go to setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu and help look for extraterrestrial
intelligence.
You can use it as a learning tool.
Get a couple of small disks and set up a few RAID arrays.
Load one of the database servers and connect to it using ODBC drivers from
your nt/win workstations.
Get Star Office personal edition for free and have the full office suite
that's comparable to Office97.
Use it as a dial on demand server and run all your local machines to the
internet through it.
Recompile the kernel as a learning experience.
CH
coffee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Gerritt Baer wrote:
> >
> > Well, I've found myself with an extra PII/266, and can't find a real
> > use for the darn thing. I could install w95 on it to chain my pcs
> > together so I can play quake2 with myself, but I was hoping to do
> > something more useful/interesting with it. So i've installed SuSE 6.1
> > on it yesterday and I'm trying to think of some interesting/fun things
> > to do with the box. As, of now, it just sits there doing not much of
> > anything :) Anyone have any good ideas?
> >
> > Gerritt Baer
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> I had a spare 486 sitting around and I set it up as a file
> server. I just download all files to it thru my main
> terminal off internet and store it all there. I also put in
> a tape backup to keep things safe.
>
> It sits in a corner of my bedroom running 24/7. Sometimes I
> forget its even there :))
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Carl Hilinski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: connecting-computers
Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 21:56:28 -0400
Samba to support the windows machines and Netatalk for the Macs.
ch
Fran�ois Patte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I'd like to connect another computer (pc under windows or mac) with mine
> (linux red-hat) in order to copy or install files exactly in the same
> way as I do on my hard disk beetween linux partition and windows
> partition. Is that possible? and how?
>
> Could you give me details?
>
> Thank you.
>
> -- Fran�ois Patte. UFR de math�matiques et informatique.
> 45 rue des St P�res. 75270 Paris Cedex 06
> Tel: 01 44 55 35 59 -- Fax: 01 44 55 35 35
> http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte
>
>
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From: Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape 4.51 suddenly exits ?????????????
Date: 26 May 1999 20:55:16 -0500
Neil Zanella wrote:
>
> Has anyone tried Netscape 4.6?
>
> I heared there were lots of improvements to the code, making Netscape
>
> Java 1.1 compliant, faster, smaller, and with less bugs.
>
> I wonder how it compares to 4.5.
>
Actually it flushes netscape instead of crashing it, as for improvement perhaps
it is, usefull I doubt it.
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From: Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape 4.6 .rpm, .deb? was, Re: Netscape 4.51 suddenly exits
Date: 26 May 1999 20:58:04 -0500
Matt O'Toole wrote:
>
> Has anyone seen Netscape 4.6 rpms or debs yet? Where? I'm too lazy to
> install it otherwise... plus, it's nicer to have it packaged and ready for
> an easy upgrade or uninstall if necessary..
>
The US version is only available in libc5 for both 4.51 and 4.6
and they are tar.gz files
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: * * * Mindcraft offer to re-run Linux vs NT test
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 01:25:12 GMT
On 25 May 1999 19:41:48 GMT, Philip Brown
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 25 May 1999 03:33:04 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>On 24 May 1999 23:42:15 GMT,
>> Philip Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> I would like to figure out WHY microemacs isn't included in any of the
>>> distributions?!! It's great!
>>> (jove is better, but uemacs would be good :-)
>>
>>Because the microEmacs license forbids it to the point that it is a
>>license violation even to put it on a $2 CD from CheapBytes. (It's one
>>of those evil 'anti-commercial' licenses.)
>>
>>I've vainly tried to discuss the matter with Dan Lawrence, microEmacs'
>>maintainer, and he's adamant about how the 'evil' GPL is somehow
>>depriving programmers of money.
>
>Hmm. Okay, but debian could still distribute it without GPL.
... As a non-free extension that can *only* be downloaded via the
Internet. Burning a CD and charging for it is verboten.
If the license discriminates against commercial use or distribution,
then the software isn't free.
Note that this is true for virtually all of the dozen or so major
meanings of the word "free." It's not that the FSF have come up with
some peculiar notion of "free;" in my dictionary, the notion of "free"
indicating "free of charge" isn't in the "top half" of the definitions.
>Guess I'll send him an email.
You'll most likely just irritate him *and* yourself, and waste time for
both of you.
--
"Besides a mathematical inclination, an exceptionally good mastery of
one's native tongue is the most vital asset of a competent programmer."
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Crossposted-To: comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: NT the best web platform?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 01:25:03 GMT
On 26 May 1999 14:25:21 GMT, Chris Sherlock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Tue, 18 May 1999 19:35:00 -0400, Do-Hoon Kwon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>:\begin{sarcasm}
>:In a country where making/saving money is of the utmost importance,
>:why isn't there a fair comparison like this?
>:\end{sarcasm}
>
>Just out of interest, what language is this notation from?
LaTeX
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Linux PPP
Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 01:45:22 GMT
I am having kinda the same problem. When I dial with Kppp that comes
with KDE, it makes all of that noice and them it says that pppd died.
When I click on details it says that pppd is not started on the peer
system. Anyone can help me please email me ASAP.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ian Briggs) wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> :May 26 12:43:27 localhost pppd[230]: pppd 2.3.3 started by root, uid
0
> <snip>
> :May 26 12:43:42 localhost chat[231]: expect (name:)
>
> So far so good -- your end now expects to receive "name:".
>
> :May 26 12:43:42 localhost chat[231]: 33600/ARQ/V34/LAPM/V42BIS^M
> :May 26 12:43:43 localhost chat[231]: ^M
> :May 26 12:43:43 localhost chat[231]: Welcome to 3Com Total Control
HiPer
> :ARC (TM)^M
> :May 26 12:43:43 localhost chat[231]: Networks That Go The Distance
(TM)^M
> :May 26 12:43:43 localhost chat[231]: ^M
> :May 26 12:43:47 localhost chat[231]: alarm
>
> It still hasn't received "name:", so it alarms.
>
> :May 26 12:43:47 localhost pppd[230]: Connect script failed
> :May 26 12:43:47 localhost chat[231]: Failed
> :May 26 12:43:48 localhost pppd[230]: Exit.
>
> Game over.
>
> :My /etc/ppp/chatscript looks like:
> <snip>
> :CONNECT ""
> :TIMEOUT 5
> :"name:" ppp
> :
> :My pap-secrets file is the standard: username * password
>
> Your chat script is expecting to receive "name:", but it never
arrives.
> You've got a strange mixture of scripted and PAP authentication. If
your
> ISP does PAP, rewrite the last three lines of your chat script as
simply:
> CONNECT '\d\c'
>
> If you want to understand this (or it still doesn't work), I suggest
Bill
> Unruh's "How to hook up PPP" at
> <http://axion.physics.ubc.ca/ppp-linux.html>.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Ian
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Hill)
Subject: Re: Linux books
Date: 27 May 1999 01:16:25 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>> Hi there,
>>
>> Does anybody know what the best books on the market are for Linux System
>
>The O'Reilly & Associates series of books is very informative. The ones
>I own:
>
>1) Linux Network Administrator's Guide, Olaf Kirch.
>2) Running Linux, Matt Welsh and Lar Kaufman.
>3) Linux in a Nutshell, Jessica Perry Hekman and staff.
Don't get me wrong; I love O'REilly books and have enough that I really
don't care to count up how much I've spent on them. That said, consider
these facts:
When _Running Linux_ was released in its second edition over two and a
half years ago. At that time, according to the authors, kernel 1.2 was
"just around the corner." There was no KDE, no GNOME. The chapter on
dial-up networking focuses on establishing that all-important SLIP
connection, although the truly hackish might want to see the section on
DIP configuration. The idea of a hard drive big enough to blow past BIOS
limits was still fanciful enough that this critical issue is completely
uncommented-upon in the partitioning&setup section. A machine with 16MB
RAM is referred to as having "a great deal of physical RAM." Old NCSA
httpd is the model for setting up your own web server. There is nothing
about C News, INN, leafnode, slrnpull, suck. I could go on all day.
This is a well-written book, but the pace of change in the Linux world
has made the in-print edition of _Running Linux_ all but useless.
The _Network Administrator's Guide_ is even older, having been published
over four years ago. Among the items left out are ISDN, DSL, cable
"modems", fancy tricks like IP firewalling, forwarding, masquerading,
and on and on and on. Again: yes, it's a well-written book. But if
you're going to be working as an administrator on a network that has
anything remotely resembling modern features, it's a largely-useless
book.
While everyone here loves Linux and damn near everyone here love
O'Reilly, I think we do newbies a great disservice by pointing them at
these books at this time. When updated editions come out, let's put
them back on the list of recommendations, but for now...no.
Jim
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"People have grown used to thinking of computers as unreliable,
and it doesn't have to be that way." -- Linus Torvalds
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: * * * Mindcraft offer to re-run Linux vs NT test
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 01:26:02 GMT
On 26 May 1999 22:53:04 GMT, Philip Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 25 May 1999 22:59:09 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>...
>>According to Dan, even companies doing $2 CD's count as "commercial use"
>>of his code, ignoring that the $2 CD's are loss leaders to get sales on
>>books, t-shirts, stuffed penguins, etc, and that the $50 distributions
>>are selling the support, the pretty box and 'convenience' of buying it
>>from a bookstore.... not the software at all.
>
>I agree with Dan on the last point. THere's no way someone isn't making money
>off the $50 distributions, unless they are grossly incompetant.
That's not the point.
The question is not whether profit is being made, it is what the profit
is on, as compared to Dan's desires.
<aside>
The claim that $2 CDs are "loss leaders" is not correct, by the way; the
thing about them is that they aren't moneymakers for the vendors unless
they're selling a whole spindle of them at a shot.
My local LUG (NTLug) buys on the order of a hundred of the "$2 CDs" each
month, and in those kinds of quantities, LinuxCentral is able to parlay
the (probable) $1.25 or so that they make on each one into a
*reasonable* amount of profit.
</aside>
The question of *how much* is made is not the question.
The question is of whether there is commercial intent. If the answer is
"yes," then MicroEmacs may not be included. Period.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Adam J)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: FDD Tape Drive--The Sequel
Date: 26 May 1999 21:37:37 GMT
Thanks for the info. I installed my Colorado 250MB tape drive, but have
been unsuccessful in getting anything on the tape. I know I should use tar,
(the command line I used was "tar -cz /home/* /dev/ftape/hame.tar") but
whenever I try to use it, I get a bunch of garbage on the screen and my box
starts beeping at me. Any advice?
Thanks,
Adam J
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From: Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Starting X at boot-up
Date: 26 May 1999 20:31:00 -0500
Matthew Bafford wrote:
> : 3. Are there any potential security compromises associated with booting
> : directly into X.
>
> This just gives an graphical login prompt.
>
+ give you the opportunities to have a rich vocabulary of swear words when
it dies and you can't load another X. The safest way is to boot on the
console. It just take a few seconds to run startx
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From: David Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Normal user can't mount floppy on RedHat 6.0..why????
Date: 26 May 1999 21:19:30 +0100
WL> In the /etc/fstab listing shown below the "users" option lets users
WL> mount the given partition. For read/write permissions you can add
WL> "umask=0" as an option for fat or vfat partitions. Also, for any
WL> filesystem just change the permissions on the mount directory to 777.
WL>
umask=0 yes, chmod 0777 foo no.
mount will just 'hide' the permissions of the mount directory the same as it
hides the contents.
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Crossposted-To: alt.fan.roadrunner,comp.os.os2.misc
From: "Timur Tabi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "Timur Tabi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Road Runner Customer User Agreement Violation - Using Alternative
Operating Systems
Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 02:35:04 GMT
On Wed, 26 May 1999 00:54:53 GMT, David A. Spicer wrote:
> I think you're taking this a little too seriously. TWC is never going to
>support all OS's, but the key word here is support. I can't imagine why
>TWC would care what OS you are using...they just won't be able to
>help you support wise.
TWC does NOT care what OS you use. I happily use OS/2 here in Austin and
they have no problem with that at all.
Each city is different. In Austin, they gave us the option of a self-install,
which is a great option. They just told us what needs to be done, and I did
it all under OS/2. I can even log on to my profile and set up email
accounts, etc.
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OS/2 page: http://www.os2ss.com/Information/Newusers/index.html
OS/2 Programming page: http://www.edm2.com/common/links.html
Looking for the best OS/2 soundcard? http://www.tabi.org/timur/crystalos2.html
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