Linux-Misc Digest #431, Volume #20 Mon, 31 May 99 11:13:08 EDT
Contents:
Re: Oracle8i for Linux: Anyone have their CD yet? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: SuSE vs Red Hat? (Keith Phillips)
Re: Xircom CEM56 Ethernet/Modem and 2.2.5 ? (Andreas Loebel)
Netscrape Plugins (Michael Powe)
Re: The Glass Cathedral (Michael Powe)
Re: Alpha, PowerPC, Intel, and Sparc (Jens Kilian)
vfat not supported!? (Tuomo Louhivuori)
Re: Installing KDE - newbie (Eugene Strulyov)
Re: Offline newsreader for Linux (Michael Powe)
FTP clients that can do site-to-site transfers? ("Louie R. Orbeta")
Re: About RealPlayer G2... (Ted Sikora)
Re: emacs questions
Re: Is Linux Open Source? (stdio.h) (Martin Dieringer)
Re: SETI comparisons (Ollie Acheson)
Re: Background Jobs (Frank Sweetser)
Partitioning advice (Mark E Drummond)
Re: Gvim+Eterm..How To? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: fdisk /MBR ??? (Jay)
help with fdisk (Bill Damon)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
comp.databases.oracle.misc,comp.databases.oracle.server,comp.databases,linux.redhat.misc,alt.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Oracle8i for Linux: Anyone have their CD yet?
Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 23:33:42 -0400
> Well, it's now late May and Oracle said they'd be sending out their 8i
> Linux CDs by now. Anyone have Oracle8i for Linux yet?
I haven't. But I'm not suprised.
I have signed up for similar offers from Oracle in the past, and never
recieved anything from them but junk mail. What a rip.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Keith Phillips)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: SuSE vs Red Hat?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 31 May 1999 11:25:22 GMT
Much agreement from me. I've used RH 4.1, 4.2, and 5.1. When 6.0 came
out, I thought about it, then I thought about the price jump :-( I'd
been thinking about using a different distro for a while, anyway, so
I went with SuSE. Looked at Debian, but they didn't ship (or recommend)
the 2.2.x kernel...
Now, if SuSE would only add printer support to their shipped kernel... :-)
On Mon, 31 May 1999 02:18:40 GMT, p <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
spoke unto us, saying:
> I must agree with the this point of view. I have tryed Redhat 5.2 and
>results were OK. Recently installing Suse Linux 6.1 on my laptop has
>made me a believer. I actually installed it on my laptop after 2
>attempts.
>
>Redhat has sold out. Suse is were its at.
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| Keith Phillips User: "Um, I can't find my files..." |
| [EMAIL PROTECTED] Admin: "Files? What files?" |
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From: Andreas Loebel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
hp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Xircom CEM56 Ethernet/Modem and 2.2.5 ?
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 09:12:50 +0200
Michael Kalisz wrote:
> Hello everyone
>
> Running SuSE 6.1 on a HP Omnibook 4150
> I can use the Xircom CEM56 modem/eth10/100 card.
> With the initial setup I can load network fine,
> but the serial stuff (modem) won't work.
> But if I disable the modem part in /etc/pcmcia/config, like this:
>
>
> card "Xircom CEM56 Ethernet/Modem Card"
> version "Xircom", "*", "CEM56"
> # bind "xirc2ps_cs", "serial_cs"
> bind "serial_cs"
>
> modem works just fine, but ofcourse ethernet doesn't ...
>
> (This used to work in earlier versions of the kernel 2.0.36)
>
> After a bit of investigating I noticed that it's an IRQ problem.
> changing the with "setserial /dev/ttyS3 irq 0" works....
> tested all other irq's but with no luck :-(
>
> So my question is of course:
>
> Has anyone managed to make this work with the 2.2.X kernel at all?
>
> Any clues?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Michael
>
I had exactly the same problems with this card using it in a Toshiba Tecra
740 CDT. On a Siemens Mobile 800, however, the modem and the network part
of this card worked without any problems!?
(Linux distribution was the german DLD-6.01, kernel 2.2.3)
Andreas
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Subject: Netscrape Plugins
From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 30 May 1999 23:49:38 -0700
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Is it possible to use RealPlayer for a plugin in Netscrape in linux?
I tried to follow the instructions for setting it up but they are not
accurate, as they seem to be written for an earlier version of NS.
However, I did put the class files & the .so file in the "plugins"
directory as the directions indicate. When I put the RA entry into
the Applications box, there's no "plugin" option -- it's grayed out.
At any rate, all I get when I go to a page like www.spinner.com is a
pop-up that says I need a plugin. Duh! NS 4.6, the full package. I
had the same behavior with Navigator 4.08.
Thanks for any help.
mp
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Michael Powe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Portland, Oregon USA http://www.trollope.org
"There are certain rights that a woman loses when she becomes a
wife." -- Farrah Fawcett
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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: The Glass Cathedral
From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 31 May 1999 00:07:36 -0700
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>>>>> "Gilles" == Gilles Pelletier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Gilles> Of course, we all know where distributors' and system
Gilles> administritors' moolah comes from: an inadequacy between
Gilles> the system offered and the needs of the general
Gilles> public. There's absolutely not a shade of a doubt that
Gilles> Linux, an OS that overwrites files without prompting, is
Gilles> not for the casual user. This fact has been recognized by
Gilles> M$ at least since DOS 3.
Geez Louise! You just keep going on and on. Perhaps you should spend
more time learning and less time talking!
mp
- --
Michael Powe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Portland, Oregon USA http://www.trollope.org
"There are certain rights that a woman loses when she becomes a
wife." -- Farrah Fawcett
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.alpha,comp.os.linux.powerpc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Alpha, PowerPC, Intel, and Sparc
From: Jens Kilian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 31 May 1999 08:57:54 +0200
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Guy with the Most Cake) writes:
> Another architecture to consider is the Intel Merced
> architecture, if they ever release it.
They did.
http://209.207.142.135/ia-64/foc_sec3menu_index.html
http://developer.intel.com/design/ia64/architecture.htm
Bye,
Jens.
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From: Tuomo Louhivuori <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: vfat not supported!?
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 06:57:34 GMT
Hi,
My problem is that now I get an error when I try to
mount my FAT32-drives under linux. It says that vfat
is not supported by my kernel (error 32 or something).
I'm running RH6.0 out of box and it used to work just
fine.
The problem arose when I tried to make and install a
program called wm_sensors. Actually I installed lm_sensors
-packet (it's required by wm_sensors -frontend) first with
no problems. wm_sensors make gave me a bunch of errors,
unable to find .h -include files. Could this have messed up
my system?
I'm new to linux so any advice would be greatly
appreciated. I wouldn't want to start again from the
scratch.
-Tuomo
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From: Eugene Strulyov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Installing KDE - newbie
Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 19:12:52 GMT
put the environment variables in /etc/profile
.profile (notice the dot) is located in a user's home directory and its
settings affect only that user.
/etc/profile (no dot) is for the global settings (all users).
hope that helps
Eugene
Judy wrote:
>
> I've spent the week-end installing RedHat 5.2 and getting X it to work with
> my bro's dumb ATI Fury card (yes!!! it works!!) I'm currently trying to
> install KDE, but I can't get through the *required* QT installation step.
> I'm stuck where the INSTALL file says to :
>
> "Set some environment variables in the file .profile (or .login, depending
> on your shell) in your home directory."
>
> Right, so what are these files? which one do I make (.profile or .login)?
> and where do I place them? Should I log on as root, or another user?
>
> Anyway, I tried to get something going, but when I executed
> make linux-g++-shared
>
> It grumbled something strange about $PWD and stopped.
>
> I know, this isn't a lady's world, but anyone care to help a poor damzel in
> distress? Thanx guys :)
>
> JuDe
>
> PS: BTW, does anyone know how to get the [Alt Gr] key to work in Linux,
> using a French keyboard? It acts like the regular [Alt] key which means I
> cannot type characters like '{', '@', '#'. It does, however recognise the
> AZERTY layout.
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Subject: Re: Offline newsreader for Linux
From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 31 May 1999 00:20:31 -0700
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>>>>> "Jan" == Jan Panteltje <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>> I've just started using leafnode to make my machine into a
>>> little private mail server. Then read them at your leisure
>>> using slrn (or whatever you prefer).
>> newsserver, you mean!
>> One should tell Steve: Under Linux you don't need an offline
>> reader (infact they don't exist). You set up your own
>> newsserver with INN or leafnode.
Jan> That is not true. I wrote NewsFleX, although it is not free,
Jan> it is a very good off line news reader for Linux. The
Jan> predecessor to NewsFleX, xagent that is free (written in C)
Jan> is at sunsite. So, why bother with all those difficult
Jan> programs if you can have it all, with a decent GUI running
Jan> under X, automatic dial in etc. But of cause you can, if you
Jan> are into not using X, use something simple. NewsFleX can be
Well, you can use Gnus in emacs, if you want something completely
configurable, powerful and useable in both X and console mode. It can
even be used in "offline" mode, if you so desire. AND it's free
software.
mp
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Portland, Oregon USA http://www.trollope.org
"There are certain rights that a woman loses when she becomes a
wife." -- Farrah Fawcett
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From: "Louie R. Orbeta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: FTP clients that can do site-to-site transfers?
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 13:01:25 GMT
Hi,
Can anyone recommend an FTP client that lets me perform site-to-site
transfers?
Thanks a lot in advance.
Regards,
Louie
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From: Ted Sikora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: About RealPlayer G2...
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 07:07:58 GMT
"Jeremy L. Stock" wrote:
>
> On Sun, 30 May 1999 20:53:19 GMT, Ted Sikora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >"David E. Fox" wrote:
> >>
> >> >Donn Miller wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >> >>FreeBSD doesn't even have a "RealPlayer" at all -- we're stuck in
> >> >>the RealAudio era, which is to say, 2 years behind the current
> >> >>RealPlayer. Even Linux is stuck with the archaic RealPlayer 5,
> >>
> >> Can't you run it in Linux emulation?
> >>
> >I guess not...
> >
> > ./realplay
> >Segmentation fault (core dumped)
> >
> >After running ldd here's the result...
> >
> >/usr/compat/linux/usr/bin/ldd: /lib/ld-linux.so.2: not found
> > not a dynamic executable
> >
> >I upgraded to the RedHat 100% compatible libraries in glibc2.tgz
> >from StarOffice 5.1 on top of linux_lib-2.6.1. I tried adding the /dir
> >to ld.so.conf and using a LD_LIBRARY_PATH script too.
> >Does anybody have any ideas? Maybe glibc 2.1 is needed?
> >
> It works for me under 3.2-STABLE-19990528 using the updated linux-base port
> from http://www.scc.nl/~marcel. Hope this helps.
>
> --
> Jeremy L. Stock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Thanks guys. G2 now works. The linux-base-5.2 update solved the problem.
It includes a fix for chrooted files which was the problem. That url is
now part of my bookmarks. It contains some
nice current info for Linux emulation.
--
Ted Sikora
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://tsikora.tiac.net
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: emacs questions
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 13:01:32 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Michael Powe wrote:
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>>>>>> "anon" == <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> anon> hi. I'm using emacs 20.3.1 from slackware 3.6 packages and
> anon> I have some questions.
>
> anon> 1. How do I do syntax highlighting on c mode?
>
>Do something like this:
>
>(defun my-c-mode-hook()
> (turn-on-font-lock)
> (c-toggle-auto-hungry-state 1))
>
>(add-hook 'c-mode-common-hook 'my-c-mode-hook)
>
If you are not using X, you are out of luck. If you need syntax hiliting in
console text mode, use Jed. <ftp://space.mit.edu/pub/davis>.
Paul
>For your other questions, you might be better off in comp.emacs or
>gnu.emacs.help.
>
>mp
>
>- --
>Michael Powe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Portland, Oregon USA http://www.trollope.org
>"There are certain rights that a woman loses when she becomes a
>wife." -- Farrah Fawcett
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From: Martin Dieringer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is Linux Open Source? (stdio.h)
Date: 31 May 1999 15:26:44 +0200
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lew Pitcher) writes:
> On 31 May 1999 13:23:10 +0200, Martin Dieringer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Martin Dieringer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> Martin Dieringer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> > Martin Dieringer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> > > Martin Dieringer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> > > > please someone send me or post /usr/include/stdio.h here.
> >> > > > I don't have access to a linux system
> >> > > I'd be completely satisfied with the definition of FILE
> >> > The datatype and purpose of '_cnt' would serve the purpose.
> >> > The linux version does NOT matter at all.
> >> Where can I download it? Is there a source tree somewhere?
> >
> >no, linux isn't open source. they won't show you stdio.h -
> >m.
>
> Sure, Linux is Open Source.
> But, Linux has nothing to do with stdio.h
> If you want to see stdio.h, check out the Free Software Foundation's
> FTP site, and download the GLIBC sources (which includes stdio.h)
>
> Oh, BTW, loose the chip on your sholder. It's interfering with your
> vision. ;-)
got me! I have no idea what 'chip on my shoulder' could be
m.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ollie Acheson)
Subject: Re: SETI comparisons
Date: 31 May 1999 13:31:31 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jeff -
This is a "plays well with others" setting.
man nice says:
nice - run a program with modified scheduling priority
among other things.
Ollie
On Sun, 30 May 1999 22:36:50 -0700, Jeff Grossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>What does the nice setting do?
>
>Thanks,
>Jeff
>
>--
>Jeff Grossman ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>
>
>Bill McClain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Carl Hilinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> > I'm curious if anyone else is running this and what kind of results they
>are
>> > seeing.
>>
>> Pentium II 300Mhz, setiathome v1.1, Linux 2.0.36: 13 hours. This is
>> running at nice 19 with me doing light work on the machine all day.
>>
>> This is with i386 code. I'm waiting for the current batch to finish so I
>> can try the i686 version.
>>
>> It is fun to watch a background job get 99% of the cpu time without
>> degrading interactive performance at all.
>>
>> -Bill
>
>
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| Ollie Acheson |
| Morristown, NJ |
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From: Frank Sweetser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.redhat,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Background Jobs
Date: 31 May 1999 09:22:52 -0400
"Jeff Grossman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Nope, didn't work. I don't have a man entry for Screen. Can anybody help
> me with this new problem.
you did try 'screen' not 'Screen', right? (case matters) if you don't
have it, check your install disk, it should be on there, or if not, snag
the source from ftp.gnu.org
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/* This bit of chicanery makes a unary function followed by
a parenthesis into a function with one argument, highest precedence. */
-- Larry Wall in toke.c from the perl source code
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From: Mark E Drummond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Partitioning advice
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 10:18:44 -0400
I am about to rebuild my machine at work. Currently running Slack 3.6. I
am going to put Slack 4.0 on it. My current partition scheme was based
on an educated guess but I would like to modify it based on actual usage
info. I have ~8GB to play with (6.4GB IDE drive, 2GB SCSI) plus an extra
2GB SCSI I can put into play if I want.
Here is my current usage (`df -k`):
Filesystem 1024-blocks Used Available Capacity Mounted on
/dev/hda3 54441 19809 31821 38% /
/dev/hda5 1981000 1121395 757193 60% /usr
/dev/hda6 995115 314038 629671 33% /opt
/dev/hda7 101075 32301 63555 34% /var
/dev/hda9 653034 194112 425188 31% /mnt/hda9
/dev/sda1 2028098 1500303 422973 78% /home
/dev/hda8 1018298 17555 948132 2% /mnt/hda8
/dev/hda10 1026067 5 973050 0% /mnt/hda10
/dev/hdc 569130 569130 0 100% /mnt/cdrom
NOTES: ~800MB of /usr consists of /usr/local and /usr/src, and I plan on
using /usr/local/src from now on, except for the kernel of course. So
/usr can be made much smaller. I don't do any local spooling so /var
need not be large. I will be using /opt a lot less, installing most of
what is now in /opt under /usr/local. /home is mostly taken up by
/home/ftp which contains iso images of various distros. hda8, hda9, and
hda10 are scratch areas for whatever. hda1 & hda2 are 128MB swap areas.
This is my plan so far:
MOUNT MOUNT PARTITION SIZE (MB)
Swap /dev/sda1 128
Swap /dev/hda1 128
/ /dev/hda2 50
/usr /dev/hda3 1000
/usr/local /dev/hda5 2000
/home /dev/sda2 2000
/opt /dev/hda6 500
/var /dev/hda7 300
/u1 /dev/hda8 1000
/u2 /dev/hda9 1000
TOTAL: 8106
I've separated swap areas across both disks. I would wonder whether the
IDE or the SCSI (FastSCSI) drive would be faster and therefore listed
first. I want the /u1 and /u2 scratch areas to be 1GB each, gives me
room to prepare iso CD images and for playing with other distros. I have
tried to be generous everywhere. I may start spooling my own email on my
machine though I will use qmail so the mail will not be held in /var.
/usr/local needs room for the ton of stuff I use plus all the source I
have on hand at any one time.
If anyone has any hints or opinions on this scheme I'd love to hear
them.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] Computing Services
Linux Uber Alles perl || die
...there are two types of command interfaces in the world of
computing: good interfaces and user interfaces.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Gvim+Eterm..How To?
Date: 31 May 1999 08:07:44 GMT
Jason Bond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm trying to use gvim inside of an Eterm window....but
> I'm not sure where to start. I have Eterm and gvim both installed.
GVim doesn't run in a Terminal, it brings its own window with it. So
you can't put it into an Eterm. If you want this you have to use
Vim (without the leading g), but then you won't have the menus.
Bye,
Carsten
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Department of Theoretical Physics
University of Hannover, Germany
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jay)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,alt.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: fdisk /MBR ???
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 08:36:57 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 30 May 1999 19:48:53 -0700, "Christopher R. Thompson"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Bill Unruh wrote:
>>
>> In <7iplks$lbd$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Christopher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> >> The ancient CHS addressing method used by the BIOS for boot strapping
>> >can
>> >> not support more than 8GB.
>
>> Sorry, but your diatribe is off track. The software, linux, does know
>
>How am I off track? Arent' we talking about reading a boot-strap program
>that loads an operating system? Thats what I believe I am talking about.
>Bios is cute because it is programable and therefore changeable and
>upgradeable. Nowadays even more so with flash. You don't even have to
>buy a new chip. Why do you believe that we are locked in to some
>mysterious 8GB limitation we are not. That is way old technology still
>at work and it needs to be updated and it will.
>
>> how touse linear addressing. That is what it uses, and it is not limited
>> by 8G. However, linux is not run from the BIOS chip whichis the first
>
>Correct me if I am wrong, but don't think that linux needs much of
>anything to load. Does it? I think that I read something somewhere that
>all of the boot-strap stuff could be loaded onto the begining of the
>kernel. That way you can just load bzImage without dos, loadlin, lilo,
>or anything, and in fact this is probably the way I'll eventually chose
>to go.
>
>> thing that gets control. That BIOS chip loads a program from the MBR of
>
>"MBR" Invented by who?
>
>> the disk, which is a small area and cannot hold much, especially not a
>
>And used by who?
>
>> whole file system (and expecially not all of the different filesystems
>
>What are you talking about? Read up on INITRD. You can mount and create
>any file system you want into a ram disk.
>
>The Master Boot Record is a writeable location on the hard disk. It's a
>program containing instructions that tell the computer what to do. You
>can put any insruction in there that is necessary to tell YOUR computer
>how to run YOUR operating system. Just like the BIOS and ROM. If I want
>the "MBR" to be just exactly the size of vmlinuz it will be.
>
>> the user might want to boot with). Thus, it uses the BIOS's filesystem
>
>The only file system that I want to see is Linux. I don't want to see
>dos, I don't want to see windows, and I don't want to see the floppy
>lights come on. I just want to turn the power on and see a login prompt.
>"Welcome to Linux:"
>
>> routines to read off some absolute sector address off the disk. These
>> are the boot program of the operating system (eg vmlinuz etc). Once
>> those are loaded, they can then use their own operating system's
>> filesystem to continue. Thus you need enough space on teh disk to hold
>> te /boot partition in linux, which must be addressable by the BIOS.
>> My boot is less than 1MB is size. Unfortunately, again the BIOS has
>> problems addressing small areas, and thus has a minimum size that it
>
>Some one once told me that we don't have problems; we have only
>opportunities to excel.
>
>> likes to assign to a partition (1 cylinder?) Thus that less than 1M
>
>Wasted space. I hate waste. Another reason to eliminate it.
>
>> needs a minimum sized partition which is 5M or 8M or whateever depending
>> on the size of your disk and its cylinders.
>
>Do you know that I don't even know how may heads I have on this hard
>drive. I've had to tell linux there are 63 heads and I know that is a
>big fat lie. I hate lies and liars. President Clinton excepted because
>everybody else loves him. The hardware manufacturers have had to invent
>extra code to (get around this problem?(your words?)) seize the
>opportunity. But now I have to undo their firmware if want to do
>something unusual like strobing two sufaces of a cylinder to generate
>timing patterns. Or I have to sign some non-disclosure agreement to find
>out what the internal archectecture is and learn how to optomize it. Or
>maybe I don't. I don't really don't know I just know that it all used to
>be spelled out on the cover of drive and now it's all hidden behind
>cache, and firmware, and who knows what else.
>
>Anyway I think that in the not too distant future you will not be
>needing an MBR at all. I believe that there is a project in the works
>called Virtual Machine that will allow you to not only boot your
>favorite operating system but run it concurrently with your OTHER
>favorite operating system. The hardware will fully support it. If the
>manufacturers would just stop breaking the code to protect their own
>vested intrests maybe some more people would buy more of it.
CHS is a disk addressing scheme similar to the widely used LBA scheme.
The difference is that Dos/Windows/etc. can handle LBA but may have
trouble with CHS. This goes for Lilo too. That's why most Linux
users boot from a root disk or Lilo boot floppy.
What is "print" ed on the screen when using CHS IS the correct cyl,
heads, and sectors. This does not mean that CHS is better than LBA or
vise versa.
Just a little of what I learn at Maxtor's website.
Jay
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From: Bill Damon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: help with fdisk
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 14:34:31 +0000
O.K. here is where I am ... I need help so I don't wipe out something
important...
I have 2 IDE drives; the C Drive is all WIN98 FAT 32.
The D Drive is a 3.6 GB IDE drive that was orginally all WIN98 FAT32. I
cleared some space, defragmented the disk, and then set up an 800
MB partition for Linux. That is not going to be enough.
So I cleaned off a lot more space on the D: Drive and now have the
following:
One WIN98 FAT32 partition of about 1.6 GB
One WIN98 FAT32 partition of about 1.2 GB (This is now empty and is
what I want to use for Linux)
One Linux Native partition of about 732 MB
One Linux SWAP partition of about 64 MB
When I run fdisk it shows the following:
Device Start End Size ID Type
hdb1 1 406 1636960 b WIN95 FAT32
hdb2 2 731 826560 5 Linux Extended
hdb3 407 730 1306368 b WIN95 FAT32
hdb5 731 918 757984 83 Linux Native
hdb6 919 935 68512 82 Linux Swap
I read somewhere that a Linux Extended Partition had to be bigger than
all the parts it is made up of. And I confused about Linux Extended
Partitions anyway...
In this case I originally set up the Linux stuff on an 800 MB partition,
so what is showing as hdb2 is really the "Parent" partition for hdb5 and
hdb6, I think...
hdb3 is currently empty and is formatted as a WIN95 FAT32 partition.
What I want to do is convert hdb3 to a Linux partition.
My question is: Do I (a) delete the WIN95 FAT32 hdb3 partition, and
then create a new Linux partition? If so, what type of partition do I
create? Linux Extended or Linux Native?
Then how do I format the partition so Linux can use it?
And, finally, how do I move /home and /usr over to it so I can get some
room on my original linux partition?
fdisk is a bit scary and I don't want to do something that will wipe out
my current Linux system because it took a while to get it working.
don't want to go thru that again...
thanks...
Bill Damon, Salem, VA
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