Linux-Misc Digest #431, Volume #27 Fri, 23 Mar 01 19:13:01 EST
Contents:
Re: No in.ftpd after install ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: ALSA problems (Bart Friederichs)
Re: Firewall authentication? ("The Spook")
Re: Making .bat-file in linux ("The Spook")
Re: Firewall authentication? (Steve Bui)
Re: How to tolerate improper shut downs ? ("Harlan Grove")
Re: GET RACIST SIPHER42 OUT OF THIS GROUP! ("Avb")
Re: GET RACIST SIPHER42 OUT OF THIS GROUP! ("Matt Borland")
programs mysteriously segfaulting and exiting ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: programs mysteriously segfaulting and exiting ("Davide Bianchi")
Re: Making .bat-file in linux (Jeremiah DeWitt Weiner)
Re: GET RACIST SIPHER42 OUT OF THIS GROUP! ("Brian L. McCarty")
Installing KDE 2.1 RPMs must be easier than this (Chris Gordon-Smith)
Re: GET IDIOT BRIAN McCARTY OFF USENET! (The Magnificent Bastard)
Sendmail problems (Alex Fitterling)
Re: how to search filesystem for a file? (Jean-David Beyer)
Re: question about ssh server version 2 (Jean-David Beyer)
MGA400 + DRI in XFree 4 (Alex Fitterling)
Re: file manager problem ("mari-k")
Re: Upgrading kernal? ("mari-k")
Re: Weird(?) magic word for sh to invoke perl under Linux (Dave Brown)
NNew SCILAB books ("Gilberto E.Urroz")
Re: gnome ^V paste won't work (Bob Hauck)
Re: How to tolerate improper shut downs ? (Bob Hauck)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: No in.ftpd after install
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 19:45:03 +0000
>I would suspect you chose a 'workstation' installation as this leaves
>out the ftp server.
>
>On my machine if I ask rpm to specify which package contains
>/usr/sbin/in.ftpd I get..
>
>[root@weasel /root]# rpm -qf /usr/sbin/in.ftpd
>wu-ftpd-2.6.1-6
>
>If you install this package from your CD with rpm then you will fix it.
>
>Regards
>
>Phil Q
Thank you. Yes, I remember it now. Is there any easy way to change my workstation to a
server? Or where can I find a complete list of utilities installed on a server (by
typical installation) but not on a workstation?
Yong Huang
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From: Bart Friederichs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ALSA problems
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 20:22:44 GMT
Hi,
Did you insmod the OSS compatibility modules? I have the same card
(onboard) and that was a problem in my case. Im using 2.2.16 however,
not tried sound in 2.4.x yet.
Bart
--
=======================================================================
The internet is a too slow way of doing things you'd never do without
it.
Bart Friederichs, 1998
=========================================================================
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From: "The Spook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Firewall authentication?
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 21:39:01 +0100
Steve Bui wrote ...
>Is it possible to create a linux box which acts as a firewall but also
>authenticates incoming users? So for example, user 1 is authenticated
>and gets access to computers A, B, and C while user 2 is authenticated
>and gets access to computers X, Y, and Z. Thanks for your help.
>
>--Steve
I haven't done anything like precisely what you specify, but I've made a
simple program that authenticates a user and opens the firewall to this user
until the connection is broken or the user chooses to close it. This
application could be changed to open a number of possible connections in the
way you specify.
The basic principle is like this:
- The "server" is started by inetd/xinetd for incoming "telnet" connections
to some port
- The user starts a telnet session against this port
- The user specifies his/her username and presses Enter
- The system returns a form of prompt, called a challenge (I use Opie for
authentication)
- The user has an Opie calculator (a program for either Linux or Windows)
that takes the challenge and the user's secret password to calculate a "key"
(the response to the challenge) in the form of six simple, English words
like "DOOM EDEN FRET LIME SO DUAL"
- The user responds to the challenge with the key and presses Enter
- The system either grants access (i.e. inserts rules to open the firewall)
or denies it (just drops the connection)
- The user keeps this session open for as long as she or he needs to have
the firewall open
The above is more or less a cookbook for creating a similar program -- and I
hope it was an answer like this you were looking for.
/TRY
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From: "The Spook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Making .bat-file in linux
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 21:50:37 +0100
Federico Bravo wrote ...
-- Cut --
>> You should make a shell script -- like this:
>>
>> ========== Begin: Cut here ==========
>> #! /bin/sh
-- Cut --
>
>What if I don't put that first line - '#! /bin/sh' ?
It'll probably work, but depending on your system, your shell, other rules
(and maybe the weather in Connecticut), it will start a specific shell to
interpret the script.
On Sun systems (at least when I worked with them), the login shell would
interpret scripts with the C-shell if they did not start with a comment and
with the Bourne shell if they did (or was it the other way round?). On my
Linux system (using bash as the login shell), it is interpreted by bash
unless the #!-notation (called the hash-bang-notation) is used.
You can specify any shell/interpreter/program with the #!-notation, thus
being able to start any data-file that can be interpreted by a program in
this way (the data-file must allow the #!-line, of course).
/TRY
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From: Steve Bui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Firewall authentication?
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 13:03:27 -0800
Is this program posted somewhere for download?
The Spook wrote:
>
> I haven't done anything like precisely what you specify, but I've made a
> simple program that authenticates a user and opens the firewall to this user
> until the connection is broken or the user chooses to close it. This
> application could be changed to open a number of possible connections in the
> way you specify.
>
> The basic principle is like this:
>
> - The "server" is started by inetd/xinetd for incoming "telnet" connections
> to some port
> - The user starts a telnet session against this port
> - The user specifies his/her username and presses Enter
> - The system returns a form of prompt, called a challenge (I use Opie for
> authentication)
> - The user has an Opie calculator (a program for either Linux or Windows)
> that takes the challenge and the user's secret password to calculate a "key"
> (the response to the challenge) in the form of six simple, English words
> like "DOOM EDEN FRET LIME SO DUAL"
> - The user responds to the challenge with the key and presses Enter
> - The system either grants access (i.e. inserts rules to open the firewall)
> or denies it (just drops the connection)
> - The user keeps this session open for as long as she or he needs to have
> the firewall open
>
> The above is more or less a cookbook for creating a similar program -- and I
> hope it was an answer like this you were looking for.
>
> /TRY
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From: "Harlan Grove" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to tolerate improper shut downs ?
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 21:09:53 GMT
Bob Tennent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>On Fri, 23 Mar 2001 00:13:40 GMT, Arctic Storm wrote:
>>Question (1) Is there a way to have the system set, so that it will
>>tolerate abrupt power downs?
>
>Things you can do:
...
>Eliminate your co-workers.
...
In re this option, if you don't mind a little scripting, in your startup
files (RH, so /etc/rc.d/rc.local) scan your logs to find the user ID of the
nice person who's trying your patience, append a very nasty message as PS1
to their ~/.bashrc telling them why they're lower down the evolutionary
ladder than slime mould, give them just one or two lines at the bottom of
the terminal to actually enter commands, change the ownership of their
~/.bashrc to root.root and chmod to remove their write permission. Maybe
that'd work, maybe not. Further in this vein, use ANSI escape sequences to
set their terminal colors to something truly vile (chartreuse text on yellow
background, e.g.) and say it's due to improper shutdowns.
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From: "Avb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.food.wine,rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang,alt.movies,rec.collecting.coins,alt.autos.porsche,alt.tv.sopranos
Subject: Re: GET RACIST SIPHER42 OUT OF THIS GROUP!
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 21:03:03 GMT
whats this photo of? seriously curious
Brian L. McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> in article foYt6.156052$[EMAIL PROTECTED],
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on
21/3/01
> 17:04:
>
>
> > Where are you
> > getting this sexist stuff
>
>
> All anyone has to do is go to your website www.bastardcard.com and the
home
> page has the most vile sexist photo, and text.
>
> Comparing the website IP address with your POSTING website address proves
> it's you.
>
> Sipher42 aka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Proven Racist and Sexist. Dead
> Hotmail address.
>
> Adios, muchachos!
>
>
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From: "Matt Borland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.food.wine,rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang,alt.movies,rec.collecting.coins,alt.autos.porsche,alt.tv.sopranos
Subject: Re: GET RACIST SIPHER42 OUT OF THIS GROUP!
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 16:28:08 -0500
Not to mention it's totally off-topic and nobody asked. I won't crosspost to
this thread again, sorry to all for continuing it. Brian, leave us out of
your
argument.
-Matt-
88LPE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:POtu6.5498$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Brian,
>
> I don't know who you are, but you are coming across as a total psycho to
> everyone around here. You're obsessed with this "sipher" guy.
>
> I've had stuff said to me that made my blood boil, and I've always had the
> option of retaliating or letting it slide. You seem like a complete
> obsessive when you follow this guy around newsgroups and say all this
stuff.
>
> The thing is - 99.9% of us don't know what was said, we don't care to go
> "check headers", and we really don't care. None of us know either of you
> two personally, so this is sort of like you running through the mall with
a
> knife chasing someone yelling... the guy may have beat your wife or stolen
> your car, but YOU Look like the psycho.
>
> Just let it go.... nobody here cares what was said, by who, when, or what
it
> has to do with anything.
>
> LP
>
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Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 23:45:25 +0200
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: programs mysteriously segfaulting and exiting
hi
recently, some of my X processes "sometimes" just segfault on startup,
or they startup, but dont appear on screen. I know they're running by
checking the ps listing.
This happens mostly with netscape and emacs. The strange thing is that
sometimes they work, then i start having these problems again, and later
they work just fine. when emacs crashes, it reports that it caught
signal 11. but nescape and the other programs dont report anything. they
just dont work. at the moment, gnome's panel refuses to start.
there haven't been any errors showing up in the logs
anyone know what's going on??? cos i sure dont.
thanks
ali
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From: "Davide Bianchi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: programs mysteriously segfaulting and exiting
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 16:32:27 -0800
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> This happens mostly with netscape and emacs.
Netscape is known to be quite buggy, when it start to act wirds,
do a killall netscape to destroy all the instances and restart it.
For emacs, maybe is better to update it to a new version?
Davide
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From: Jeremiah DeWitt Weiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Making .bat-file in linux
Date: 23 Mar 2001 21:46:41 GMT
The Spook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On my
> Linux system (using bash as the login shell), it is interpreted by bash
> unless the #!-notation (called the hash-bang-notation) is used.
Damn. Live and learn. I never knew that before. Thanks, Spook!
(Now, my only question is where is that set...)
JDW
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Subject: Re: GET RACIST SIPHER42 OUT OF THIS GROUP!
From: "Brian L. McCarty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.food.wine,rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang,alt.movies,rec.collecting.coins,alt.autos.porsche,alt.tv.sopranos
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 22:02:42 GMT
in article bSOu6.162219$[EMAIL PROTECTED], Avb at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 24/3/01 7:03:
> whats this photo of? seriously curious
He's a sexist and racist jerk. He's [EMAIL PROTECTED] What more do
you need to know?
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From: Chris Gordon-Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Installing KDE 2.1 RPMs must be easier than this
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 22:07:26 +0000
I am trying to install KDE 2.1 onto my Mandrake 7.2 system (which currently
includes KDE 2.0).
I am installing from a CD with binary RPMs. I've tried using GnoRPM,
KPackage and RPMDrake. Whatever I do I get dependency problems and
conflicts. I feel as though it should be much easier than this.
Can anyone help?
Chris Gordon-Smith
London UK
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From: The Magnificent Bastard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.food.wine,rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang,alt.movies,rec.collecting.coins,alt.autos.porsche,alt.tv.sopranos
Subject: Re: GET IDIOT BRIAN McCARTY OFF USENET!
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 22:07:24 GMT
On Fri, 23 Mar 2001 22:02:42 GMT, Brian L. McCarty enlightened the world
with this nugget of wisdom...
> snip
Nobody cares about your personal vendetta, you 'tard....
--
Magnificent Bastard Productions 2001 �
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From: Alex Fitterling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Sendmail problems
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 23:17:09 +0100
Hello.
Can anyone help me to get my local email fixed ?
My send mail configuration is as far working as I can send mail...
Then I use fetch mail (the configuration is without errors, it worked
right before) but send mail seems not to accept fetched mails anymore,
and leaves them on POP server... I generated sendmail.cf by a m4 macro
file, which definitely should work... it did actually before, long
ago..
In my inetd.conf I configured POP3 locally, I believe, I need this, to
have send mail accepting mails from outside... still it doesn't work...
Do I need to update aliases.db ? If there has been any changes ? I
still believed, it's not necessary, because, aliases is used to
forward mail.... well, the mail I want to fetch from external pop3,
has a different name/domain in email-address than that my local is.
What exactly is mailertable used for ? The file is in my configuration
empty...
Does anyone think he can give me a hint.. I no there might so many
reasons why it is not working.... but hopefully someone can tell me :)
Alex
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how to search filesystem for a file?
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 17:32:02 -0500
Koos Pol wrote:
>
> Hartmann Schaffer wrote:
>
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >Is there a way in Linux to search through all the subdirectories
> > >under the
> > >one your in for a specific file? For instance if I wanted to
> > >find "file.txt" in DOS I would do:
> >
> > find <starting directory> -name file.txt -print
>
> Why is everybody forgetting about the 'locate' command?
>
1.) It runs too fast, and therefore former users of Microsoftwear
think it cannot be working correctly.
2.) If you do not leave your machine on long enough at a time,
updatedb does not run, and most users probably would not think of
running it (as root), so that locate has an up-to-date database.
--
.~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642.
/V\ Registered Machine 73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey http://counter.li.org
^^-^^ 5:30pm up 21 days, 33 min, 3 users, load average: 3.77, 3.81,
3.80
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: question about ssh server version 2
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 17:36:08 -0500
Hung Ngoc Lai wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I am currently running RedHat 7 kernel 2.4.2. I am also running
> SSH version 2 on this box. I understand that SSH version does
> have backward compability with SSH version 1.
I do not think so. I believe OpenSSH does, though.
> I usually login
> to this box from my windows machine (98/NT) with TeraTerm Pro.
> I understand that Teraterm does NOT support SSH version 2. Does
> it mean that I am logging to my Linux box with SSH1? I look under
> at the /etc/ssh/sshd_config file in the linux box and it says that
> it supports both SSH1 and SSH2. If this is the case, does it mean
> that I am vulnerable to all the security vulnerabilities that are
> associated with SSH1? Is it much more secure if I just turn off
> SSH1 completely? Please help me because I would like to learn as
> much about SSH as possible. Thanks.
>
> Hung
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
.~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642.
/V\ Registered Machine 73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey http://counter.li.org
^^-^^ 5:35pm up 21 days, 38 min, 3 users, load average: 3.86, 3.80,
3.80
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From: Alex Fitterling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: MGA400 + DRI in XFree 4
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 23:55:58 +0100
Hello,
is anyone using MGA400 with DRI support ?
Alex
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From: "mari-k" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: file manager problem
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 23:24:06 GMT
In article <DGmu6.492$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Robert"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello again,
> I'm having a problem with the xwc file manager- now I can only use it
> as root. (has been working just fine before this) I tried
> uninstalling, logging out, reinstalling, logging out -- but still
> situation is the same. Removed an alias I had created in .bashrc
> thinking it might have something to do with it- still no go. Tried
> changing the ownership to user, then even tried changing it to -r-w-x
> by all-- no help. I have recently installing the sun 1.3 java sdk and
> several java ide's-- can't think of anything else I might have done.
> All other file manager working as expected but I prefer xwc. Running
> Gnome,Mandrake 7.2, sawfish. Pent 11 400mghz 128 ram.
> Any suggestions of where to look for possible answers? many thanks,
> Robert
> (remove "Spamfree" when replying)
>
Just get the best filemanager in the whole universe:
http://www.cd.chalmers.se/~hch/filerunner.html
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From: "mari-k" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Upgrading kernal?
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 23:28:03 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "hoffmyster"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm pretty new to Linux so please bear with me. I am using RH5.2 with
> kernal 2.2.14. Can anyone please tell me if it is worth my while to
> upgrade to 2.4.2?? I have already tried to do this and I am running
> into difficulty. It appears that possibly I don't have the latest
> modutils, binutils, etc.
> I do have according to the changes file the correct versions of gcc
> and make.
> Has anyone out there successfully upgraded from pre 2.2.x to 2.4.2? If
> so did you have to do anything beyond just configuring, compiling and
> installing?
> Thanks,
> RLH
>
You are trying to run before you walk in the linux world. Believe you
me.. all the answers to your ponderings above are in the docs of the
kernel source.
Me? I am patiently waiting for the great rh7.1 .. just around the
corner.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.shell
Subject: Re: Weird(?) magic word for sh to invoke perl under Linux
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 23 Mar 2001 16:20:54 -0600
In article <99fui7$pt6$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jeremiah DeWitt Weiner wrote:
>In comp.os.linux.misc Benjamin Goldberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Abigail wrote:
>>> People putting . in their PATH will be bitten sooner or later anyway.
>
>> What, even if they have it as the very last thing in their path?
>> I'd like to see someone exploit that.
>
> Sit back and wait for someone in /tmp to screw up and type "l s-l foo"
>instead of "ls -l foo". Repeat as desired for "sl", "amil", "lgoout", etc.
There's also a risk, if your monitor is within reach, that someone will try to
hang a picture on in, thereby driving a nail into the screen.
But, you're right: if you persist in switching to /tmp and mistyping commands,
putting "." in your PATH variable is a terrible risk. Perhaps less so, if
you're on a single-user workstation, and have your alter-ego well controlled.
--
Dave Brown Austin, TX
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Subject: NNew SCILAB books
From: "Gilberto E.Urroz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 16:16:00 -0700
The books "Numerical and Statistical Methods with SCILAB for Science and
Engineering" - vols. 1 and 2 are available at:
http://www.greatunpublished.com/Authors/Gilberto_Urroz.htm
The books include the following chapters:
Volume 1
=======
Ch1-Introduction/Ch2-Programming, Strings,
I/O/Ch3-Graphics/Ch4-Vectors(with engineering applications)
Ch5-Matrices and linear algebra (includes lots of applications
too)/Ch6-Solution to non-linear equations (includes complex number
operations)/
Ch7-Numerical Integration using SCILAB (single and double integrals)/Ch
8 - Data fitting and interpolation (includes operations with SCILAB
polynomials)
Ch9-Ordinary differential equations (lots of applications)
Volume 2
=======
Ch10 - Orthogonal functions, Gaussian quadrature and Fourier analysis/Ch
11-Optimization with SCILAB/
Ch12 - Introduction to Probability and Statistics/Ch13-Random variables
(uni- and bi-variate)
Ch14 - Probability distributions (includes STIXBOX applications)/Ch 15 -
Statistical inference
Ch 16 - Regression analysis/ Ch 17 - Time series and spatial data / Ch
18 - SCILAB & matlab
Note: the functions from these books should be available soon from the
SCILAB web site:
http://www-rocq.inria.fr/scilab/
Or, you can request them from me. Just send an e-mail to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
SCILAB is available for free from the SCILAB web site:
http://www-rocq.inria.fr/scilab/
Gilberto E. Urroz, Ph.D., P.E.
Associate Professor
Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering
Utah State University
Logan, Utah
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Subject: Re: gnome ^V paste won't work
Reply-To: bobh = haucks dot org
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 23:43:23 GMT
On Fri, 23 Mar 2001 15:36:22 GMT, Mike Maxwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In the Gnome Terminal app, I want to map the ^V keystroke to 'paste', i.e.
>to paste whatever is on the clipboard.
The bash shell uses ^V as a prefix to allow you to enter control
characters. Maybe this has something to do with your problem.
--
-| Bob Hauck
-| To Whom You Are Speaking
-| http://www.haucks.org/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Subject: Re: How to tolerate improper shut downs ?
Reply-To: bobh = haucks dot org
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 23:43:24 GMT
On Fri, 23 Mar 2001 00:13:40 GMT, Arctic Storm
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Question (1) Is there a way to have the system set, so that it will
> tolerate abrupt power downs?
Put your root fs on a separate partition from /home, /tmp, and /var, and
mount it with the "sync" and "noatime" options. That way you minimize
the chances of it being written to just prior to the power down and also
minimize the chances of a write being incomplete.
You'll still have to fsck the root partition on reboot, but at least
it'll always succeed.
To reduce the fsck time, you'll need to look at putting the remaining
paritions on a journaling file system like ReiserFS. You may have to
upgrade or patch your kernel to do this.
> Question (2) Can/will these abrupt power downs damage the system?
It is unlikely if you do the above. You can still lose user data though.
--
-| Bob Hauck
-| To Whom You Are Speaking
-| http://www.haucks.org/
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