Linux-Misc Digest #460, Volume #20                Wed, 2 Jun 99 07:13:12 EDT

Contents:
  Highlighting in the editor of Midnight Commander 4.5.30 (Jason Jeong-Suk Yoon)
  How to configure XTerm and mount at boot (Gezhi Hu)
  Re: A Capitalists view of freedom (Marco Antoniotti)
  Re: You can earn $50,000 40686 (Jochem Huhmann)
  I'd like to run a script outside of /home/httpd/cgi-bin. (behapy)
  Re: What are the differences between mySQL and mSQL? (Arnout Kuiper)
  Re: RH 6.0 and .bash_profile (Jon Edwards)
  Re: Linux as a Win95 PPP server (Fred Kuipers)
  Re: choosing an OS for a retired Sun workstation (Volker Borchert)
  Re: Linux as a Voice Mail System ("Christopher R. Thompson")
  kppp (sebastopop)
  Re: opinions on FTP daemons? (Ben Short)
  Re: 16-bit C compiler (bcc) for x86 (Shimpei Yamashita)
  Re: Installing KDE - newbie (Razvoj)
  Re: Real Player G2 (Sitaram Chamarty)
  Re: URGENT. Dead or life. (Sitaram Chamarty)
  Re: How many operating systems can i have on a linux pc? (Michel Catudal)
  Re: ISDN in US (Paul John)

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From: Jason Jeong-Suk Yoon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Highlighting in the editor of Midnight Commander 4.5.30
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 17:27:05 +0900

 I just upgraded MC, and I found that error message is popuped whenever
I tried to edit  any Makefile. The error is
    ' Error in file /home/jason/.cedit/Syntax on line 76'
So I check the line 76 in Syntax.
    ' include makefile.syntax'
After just skipping the error, none of the Makefile is highlighted in
the text.
What should I do for Highlighting some text?

--
Jason JeongSuk Yoon
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cel: +82.18.232.61.65
Tel: +82.2.707.30.07




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From: Gezhi Hu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How to configure XTerm and mount at boot
Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 12:36:29 +0000

Hi,

Many thanks to the people who answered my question "How to execute
a.out". That problem is easily solved.

I have two question for now:

1. How to configure the fonts in XTerm? The current seting is realy
small, I don't feel
    comfertable.

2. I can login as root and mount my non-linux partations, but can I ask
linux to mount
    these partations automaticly at startup?

Thanks again in advance.

Gezhi Hu
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: Marco Antoniotti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: A Capitalists view of freedom
Date: 02 Jun 1999 10:38:34 +0200


[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher B. Browne) writes:

> On 01 Jun 1999 11:56:40 +0200, Ottavio G. Rizzo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted:

        ..
> 
> >It is also true that they are Swiss... 
> 
> And what precisely are you indicating by that?  :-)

Ottavio is Italian, so am I.  Have you ever seen the movie "Pane e
Cioccolata" by Scola? :)  Sez it all :)

Cheers

-- 
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PARADES, Via San Pantaleo 66, I-00186 Rome, ITALY
tel. +39 - 06 68 10 03 17, fax. +39 - 06 68 80 79 26
http://www.parades.rm.cnr.it/~marcoxa

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jochem Huhmann)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.javascript,comp.lang.perl.misc,comp.lang.tcl,comp.mail.eudora.ms-windows,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: You can earn $50,000 40686
Date: 1 Jun 1999 14:53:42 GMT

In article <7iuvt0$qb1$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        "Kent Dahl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Gah! I hate it when they don't have a valid reply adress... So much FUN to
> send a reply, filling their e-mail-boxes as they do with ours.... Now, where
> is that virtual memory file and how do I attach it to outgoing e-mail? ;-))

mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/mem

(I don't recommend mail bombing, it does more harm to others than to
it's target)

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From: behapy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: I'd like to run a script outside of /home/httpd/cgi-bin.
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 11:53:04 +0900

<!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en">
<html>
&nbsp;
<br>I run an apache 1.3.&nbsp; I'd like to run a script outside of 
/home/httpd/cgi-bin.&nbsp;
When I exec a
<br>script at /home/httpd/html/coolboard/board.cgi, error message occurred.&nbsp;
The error message
<br>was like - forbbiden, you don't have permission - even the files's
permission was mode 777.
<br>I guess, it'll be worked, if I reconfigure access.conf, httpd.conf
srm.conf.&nbsp; If I don't have
<br>idea about this.
<p>please help me</html>


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Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.lang.java.databases
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 11:47:16 +0200 
From: Arnout Kuiper
Subject: Re: What are the differences between mySQL and mSQL?

Hi,

On Wed, 2 Jun 1999 03:10:35 +0200 , Ruiming Chen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>
>The Subject askes its all. Are they the same free database software with
>two names?
>Or they are two different free database software?
>Are they both run on Linux?
>
>Thank you!
>--Raymond

They are two different databases:

mSQL (Mini SQL) : http://www.hughes.com.au/
mySQL : http://www.tcx.se/

They both can run under Linux, and are alike with respect to offered
functionality, although I heard that MySQL is slightly better.

You might consider PostgreSQL (http://www.postgresql.org/), which is
in my humble opinion one of the better free databases.

Regards,


  Arnout Kuiper ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
    Sun Certified Java Developer
    Sun Certified Java Programmer
    TekMetrics Certified Master Java Programmer

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Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 06:11:07 -0400
From: Jon Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: RH 6.0 and .bash_profile

    Still doesn't seem to execute either .profile or .bash_profile.
In AIX and CDE there is .dtprofile which requires an extry to utilize the
~/.profile.
I'm wondering if there is anything like that for GNOME ?

Jon

"Jayasuthan [VorHacker]" wrote:

> try .profile
>
> Jon Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> :     I've loaded RedHat 6.0 and GNOME for the desktop with bash as the
> : SHELL.
> : It appears as if .bash_profile simply doesn't execute.  Any ideas why
> : not ?
> : I there some file I need to modify to allow the profile to execute.
> : One of the things I'm trying to add is     set -o vi      If I add this
> : to .bashrc then I can't even issue
> : set -o vi from an xTerm and have it work.
>
> : Jon
>
> --
> ----------
> Jayasuthan
> [Internal Linux System]
> http://eplx01/suthan/
> smtp%"[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
> [External]
> http://skyscraper.fortunecity.com/digital/298/ ( UnderConstruction )
> smtp%"[EMAIL PROTECTED]"


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From: Fred Kuipers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux as a Win95 PPP server
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 22:37:54 GMT

Then why use PPP?  Use ip masquerading.  See the IP-Masquerading howto.

FJK

Technical Computing Services wrote:

> I'm running SuSE 6.1 on one 'puter in the front room.  This 'puter has a
> dial-up
> connection, and I keep it "up" at all times.  I also have another
> computer
> in the backroom that is *not* connected to the internet.   However, I do
> have
> *both* computers linked together via ethernet cables and a hub.
>
> The one in the backroom (the one NOT connected to the 'net) is running
> Win95; the one in the frontroom (to repeat myself, is running Linux, and
> it
> has the dedicated 'net connection).
>
> I can telnet just fine to the Linux box from the Win95 machine; I really
>
> want to use the Linux machine as a PPP server.  THat way, both
> machines will have a 'net connection.
>
> I have heard this is possible, but I'm not sure how to set this up.
> I can configure dial-up networking on Win95 when I switch the
> dedicated connection from the Linux box to the Win95 machine,
> but I have *no* idea how to configure dial-up networking through
> the ethernet connection to the Linux box, and then have the Linux
> box be the PPP server.
>
> So now that I've confused someone, does anyone have any idea
> how to make this possible?  So far, I've not found anything to help
> out here.
>
> NOTE - The Win95 machine does NOT ----  does NOT ---- use a modem
> in ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM!  I am NOT going to be able to use a modem
> connection to the Linux box from the Win95 box.  A modem is not used
> ANYWHERE on the network.  Sorry to shout, but many people who've tried
> to help before think that I'm using a modem to connection from one to
> the
> other.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Volker Borchert)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.unix.bsd.openbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.unix.solaris
Subject: Re: choosing an OS for a retired Sun workstation
Date: 2 Jun 1999 09:50:48 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

|> > You should work out your disk partitioning scheme in advance, however.
|> 
|> That was the hard part.  The only docs I had at the time were man pages
|> from another already-working system and a coworker with more experience.

Doing a "df" on that other system, and taking a look at the
predefined partition tables in /etc/format.dat would probably
have helped.

I admit I have the full set of printed documentation at hand.
Got them for free when my employer decided they only needed
one set...

Anyway, the partitioning problem is not unique to SunOS.

-- 

"I'm a doctor, not a mechanic." Dr Leonard McCoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"I'm a mechanic, not a doctor." Volker Borchert  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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From: "Christopher R. Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux as a Voice Mail System
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 03:23:59 -0700

Austin Wilson wrote:
> 
> Hi
> 
> Is it possible to use Linux as a voice mail system?
> 
> What I would like to do is use a Linux box to answer a phone line and take
> voice mail messages for a number of people. It must then send a message to
> the particular person's Windows box, notifying them that they have a
> message.  Then the person must then be able to listen to the message on
> their Windows box.
> 
> Does a system like this exist?
> 
> Regards
> Austin

I don't have the links bu look up vgetty and mgetty.

I downloaded em a couple o months ago but no time to install yet.

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From: sebastopop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: kppp
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 23:08:17 -0500

hello,
i need help with something
. 
i don't want to set the sticky bit on the SUID in order to allow a
regular user to use the modem.
i would rather create a group that will have access to this device.
i tried a couple of things.  i made sure that file permissions were read
and write on the cua0 for users and groups, the same for pppd, ppp
folder, ppp/ options/ etc.
is there a main file that i am missing.
my problem is that a regular user cannot access the modem using kppp.
anyhelp would be appreciated.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ben Short)
Subject: Re: opinions on FTP daemons?
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 20:30:27 +1000

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> Hi,
> 
> I was just wondering if anybody had opinions on the different FTP daemons
> such as wu-ftpd, ncftpd, etc.  The main features I'm looking for are a
> small memory footprint and the ability to see file transfers that are
> currently running.  It would be nice to have utmp/wtmp support, too.
> 
> Thanks,
> Janet
> 
Try Proftpd (www.proftpd.org). I have found this highly configurable, and 
will log just about everything
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From: Shimpei Yamashita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 16-bit C compiler (bcc) for x86
Date: 1 Jun 1999 23:44:52 +0100

Johan Kullstam  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>Samuel AU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Would you mind telling me where to find 16-bit C compiler (bcc) for
>> x86?
>
>you don't.
>
>why use a 16 bit compiler?  linux is all 32 bit and has a decent 32
>bit compiler in egcs/gcc.  i am fairly sure you cannot even execute
>the 16 bit code even if you manage to generate it.

No, you can't. But where does he say the compiled code is going to run
under Linux?

-- 
Shimpei Yamashita               <http://www.submm.caltech.edu/%7Eshimpei/>

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From: Razvoj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Installing KDE - newbie
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 10:30:46 GMT

Get the RPM-s, works better and easier, believe me. I've been stuck in that
qt.tar file for a month, but when I downloaded RPM (1.42 is enough) I did it in
one day!


B.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Eugene Strulyov wrote:

> put the environment variables in /etc/profile
> .profile (notice the dot) is located in a user's home directory and its
> settings affect only that user.
> /etc/profile (no dot) is for the global settings (all users).
>
> hope that helps
>
> Eugene
>
> Judy wrote:
> >
> > I've spent the week-end installing RedHat 5.2 and getting X it to work with
> > my bro's dumb ATI Fury card (yes!!! it works!!) I'm currently trying to
> > install KDE, but I can't get through the *required* QT installation step.
> > I'm stuck where the INSTALL file says to :
> >
> > "Set some environment variables in the file .profile (or .login, depending
> > on your shell) in your home directory."
> >
> > Right, so what are these files? which one do I make (.profile or .login)?
> > and where do I place them? Should I log on as root, or another user?
> >
> > Anyway, I tried to get something going, but when I executed
> >     make linux-g++-shared
> >
> > It grumbled something strange about $PWD and stopped.
> >
> > I know, this isn't a lady's world, but anyone care to help a poor damzel in
> > distress? Thanx guys :)
> >
> > JuDe
> >
> > PS: BTW, does anyone know how to get the [Alt Gr] key to work in Linux,
> > using a French keyboard? It acts like the regular [Alt] key which means I
> > cannot type characters like '{', '@', '#'. It does, however recognise the
> > AZERTY layout.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sitaram Chamarty)
Subject: Re: Real Player G2
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 10:38:34 GMT

On 29 May 1999 14:13:53 GMT, Steffen Kluge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Richard Edwards  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Have downloaded and installed Real Player G2 .
>
>Downloaded from where? www.real.com insists that the latest
>Linux version they have is 5.0...

There's a beta at

    http://www.real.com/products/player/linux.html

Works OK enough for me so far...

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sitaram Chamarty)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: URGENT. Dead or life.
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 10:38:35 GMT

On Fri, 28 May 1999 23:28:02 GMT, Sitaram Chamarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Thu, 27 May 1999 12:12:41 -0700, Christopher R. Thompson
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Nuno Donato wrote:
>>
>>Get a dos boot disk and install loadlin.exe and a precompiled kernel
>>vmlinuz from one of the distribution sites. Add config.sys entries as
>>follows.
>>
>>shell=a:\loadlin.exe a:\vmlinuz root=/dev/hdxx ro init 1
>
>NOOOOOOO!  No need to do all that!
[snip]
>Press Ctrl-Alt-F1 - you will go to a console.  Login as root, edit
>/etc/inittab and change the 5 to a 3 in the line that contains
>"initdefault".

After some discussion (offline) with someone who knew better, I
have to modify that statement.

The method will work - that's not the problem.  But I discover
that on slackware, only tty6 is available (so Ctrl-Alt-F6 is the
only one that gets you a console login).  On SuSE, there will be
none available at all [1] (which means you may have to do "linux
single" at the LILO prompt to fix this), and so on.

My answer will work for RH.  For other distros, try various ttys
(Ctrl-Alt-Fn, where 1 <= n <= ??)

Sitaram

[1] Although for the 3 months that I used SuSE 5.2 in xdm mode I
could have sworn [2] that the consoles were avlbl - but I cant
check it now...

[2] Oh what the heck - I am an old man now, maybe I just forgot!
;-)


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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How many operating systems can i have on a linux pc?
Date: 1 Jun 1999 22:29:00 -0500

Dr Vincent C Jones PE wrote:
> 
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> GEDEOND <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >   As many as your disk drives can hold.
> >
> >  I have booted with LILO to DOS, Win95, Win31 and Linux.
> >
> >  Now I have Win95, Linux 4.2, Linux 5.2, and acouple test kernels to boot
> >into.
> >  You need 2 5.1 GiG Disks so you can put 10 OS's on them --- ( That was a JOKE
> >- but it is possible ).  The last operating system you put on will frustrate
> >you enough to toss the whole machine out the window - mine almost went the
> >day!!
> >Good Luck ...  Dave.
> 
> Sorry Dave, but you appear to lack experience with PC (as opposed to
> "real") operating systems. With the exception of IBM's OS/2, Linux, and
> various flavors of Unix, all PC operating systems insist on booting from
> a primary partition on the first hard drive. Even NT, which claims to
> install anywhere, puts its boot loader on C:\.
> 
> Since a PC hard drive can only have four "real" partitions, usually
> assigned as three primary and an extended, you are limited to at most three
> OS'es which required booting from a primary partition. The only good
> news is that many OS'es, such as NT, are smart enough to share that
> primary partition with other OS'es which can use the same disk format.
> 
> NetWare is even worse, as it requires a DOS partition to get started and
> then the SYS volume must also be a primary partition (although if you
> have multiple hard drives, it can be on another drive, but I was
> installing on a notebook). Plus, Microsoft tends to believe that their
> OS'es own the HD partition table, and do all sorts of ugly things which
> you then have to go back and clean up after. Fortuanately, once things
> are installed, they tend to be stable, but your mileage may vary.
> 
> FWIW: I speak from experience. My notebook is configured as follows:
>  1st primary partition: 500 MB for testing new stuff
>  2nd primary partition: 500 MB (FAT) for DOS and NT stuff
>  3rd primary partition: Boot Manager
>  4th Primary Partition: Extended partition, with logical drives
>  containing OS/2 (2 copies), Linux (2 copies), & Solaris.
> 
> I have been told that the copy of boot magic which comes with the newer
> versions of partition magic eliminates the need to dedicate a primary
> partition to boot manager.

It puts itself on the MBR, but you still need the boot
manager during OS/2 install. Apparently you would be
able to install dos on the second drive.

-- 
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From: Paul John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ISDN in US
Date: 01 Jun 1999 23:26:11 -0400

"John G. Sandell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

I have 128K ISDN set up & working on SuSE 6.1. What do you want to know?

> I have seen postings here re: ISDN in Europe but need info from anyone
> who has set up ISDN with linux in the U.S. Can anyone help?
> 
> John Sandell

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