Linux-Misc Digest #460, Volume #27 Tue, 27 Mar 01 13:13:02 EST
Contents:
Re: installing linux ignoring a swap partition (Massimiliano Caovilla)
Re: Why is "S" respawing? (Rick Griffiths)
Re: Default dir now /usr/bin? ("Darrell Rudmann")
Re: The death of MS Office? (Holland King)
Re: Default dir now /usr/bin? ("Darrell Rudmann")
Re: The death of MS Office? ("Robert Wiegand")
Re: The death of MS Office? (Steve Lamb)
Re: The death of MS Office? (Steve Lamb)
ICOP 1800 4 port rs232 (Jens Frederik Dalsgaard Nielsen)
Re: real size of a file in a filesystem ... (peter pilsl)
Re: Why Might my 3C509 be DEFERRED? (Markku Kolkka)
EZCamII ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
ALSA and CS46xx Driver ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
iBCS with 2.2.19 Kernel (Bob Schreibmaier)
sound over network (Wolfgang Stefan)
Re: LILO vs. loadlin (Chiefy)
Re: Why Might my 3C509 be DEFERRED? (fred smith)
Re: The death of MS Office? (fred smith)
Re: real size of a file in a filesystem ... (Alex Yung)
USB-Printer in SUSE 7.0 (Kernel 2.2.16) - Setup-Probleme (Holger Schlicker)
Re: The death of MS Office? ("Harlan Grove")
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From: Massimiliano Caovilla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: installing linux ignoring a swap partition
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:14:01 GMT
Tauno Voipio wrote:
> but now I
> > have to reinstall linux and I was wondering how to tell it to ignore
> > solaris' partition. Thanks
>
> Do a 'text expert' installation. You can then select the partitions.
I'll check, but I'm not sure I can select the swap partition.It feels
that they are already activated (swaponned) when I get to fdisk/disk
druid. Usually, I install with text, not with expert mode... thanks for
the hint
> It is
> even possible to have a Linux swap partition without upsetting Solaris: make
> an extended partition and create the swap partition as a logical disk.
I already have that, my "real" swap partition is /dev/hda7 (logical
inside linux's dedicated extended). The problem for me is still that
stupid anaconda swapons that and even solaris' one, corrupting my
installation.
Thanks
Massimiliano
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From: Rick Griffiths <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.setup
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Why is "S" respawing?
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 10:07:22 -0500
In article <985685847.815939@sj-nntpcache-5>, Jan Just Keijser
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
}9 out of 10 times this is a serial port getty that is not hooked up to a
}proper serial port; scan your /etc/inittab file and look for something similar
}to
}
}S:12345:respawn:/bin/getty ttyS<n>
}
}comment out this line (prepent a '#') and reboot - the message should now be
}gone.
I tried this on my own before I saw your advice and I swear
*something* put the line back in. Unless I forgot to save the changes.
My head was swimming at that point from trying to read all the relevant
man pages. But thanks.
--
Use reply-to address.
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From: "Darrell Rudmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Default dir now /usr/bin?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:18:14 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Mar 2001 16:39:46 GMT, "Darrell Rudmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>>Hello, I have been using RedHat 7 for about 2 weeks now and my default
>>directory when downloading from Netscape or bringing up a terminal
>>window HAD been my home directory and is now /usr/bin. How do I get it
>>back to my home directory?
>
> I think you need to provide a little more information. Have you logged
> out since the problem started? What ID (I hope you haven't been doing
> all your surfing as root). What does /etc/passwd show to be your home
> directory. What directory is ~/ (or $HOME)?
>
> Other than that, have you tried saving a file to your "real home"
> directory and then exiting Netscape?
>
> Gord
Hi, yes, I've logged out and rebooted, and am using my personal user id
(not root). /etc/passwd shows my home directory correctly
("/home/userid"). If I enter "cd ~" then I am put in the correct
directory. My $HOME variable is correct as well--/home/userid. But, in
virtually every application, including Netscape, AbiWord, terminals, etc.
the default directory is now /usr/bin. Every GUI program starts out with
/usr/bin, then remembers the correct home directory when I provide it
until I exit and restart it.
I'm not sure what the deal is other than it's odd. I know I did install
the Ximian Gnome desktop around the same time that this started, but given
that I've installed a number of programs lately, that's not much of a
lead.
--Darrell
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From: Holland King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The death of MS Office?
Date: 27 Mar 2001 15:15:06 GMT
MarkEllse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: One day, there will be a true clone of MS Office. Ability Office is nearly
a true clone in the fact that it will be just as buggy and bloated.
: there. Star Office is nearly there - and it runs on linux too. Corel and Lotus
: don't seem to be trying. And when that happens, everyone will flock to the
: clone because it will be so much cheaper, and clearly just as good.
: Oh - it won't be better. It won't have a daft desktop that confuses.
no, why would a user want something that might work. that means they couldn't
have an excuse for slacking off and more importantly something to always
complain about. yes, users would rather have something that doesn't work and
has a bad ui. and as sys admins, you know it is our job to provide that,
as long as it doesn't provide any extra work for us either.
--
Joseph Holland King | "God whispers to us in our pleasures, speaks in our
| conscience, but shouts in our pains: it is His
| megaphone to rouse a deaf world." C. S. Lewis
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From: "Darrell Rudmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Default dir now /usr/bin?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:23:23 GMT
In article <ou1w6.1339$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip]
>
> Also, when you start up netscape, what directory are you in?
>
> Adam
Well, I'm just executing it from the Gnome panel. But you appear to have
hit on something--if I run Netscape (or any other application) from my
home directory on the command line then my home directory is used, as
desired. But if I run them from the panel then /usr/bin gets used.
--Darrell
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From: "Robert Wiegand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The death of MS Office?
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:15:06 -0600
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Steve Lamb"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Mar 2001 21:03:16 -0700, Steve Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>How do you turn it off?
>
> View / Integrated Desktop. It still looks the same except it doesn't take
> over the whole screen, it is just a windowed app at that point.
Could you explain that in more detail?
--
Regards,
Bob Wiegand [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Lamb)
Subject: Re: The death of MS Office?
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 16:08:57 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:15:06 -0600, Robert Wiegand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Steve Lamb"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Mon, 26 Mar 2001 21:03:16 -0700, Steve Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>How do you turn it off?
>> View / Integrated Desktop. It still looks the same except it doesn't
>> take over the whole screen, it is just a windowed app at that point.
>Could you explain that in more detail?
No. I fail to see how I can expand upon the instructions "View /
Integrated Desktop".
--
Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your
ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Lamb)
Subject: Re: The death of MS Office?
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 16:09:51 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 27 Mar 2001 15:15:06 GMT, Holland King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>MarkEllse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>: One day, there will be a true clone of MS Office. Ability Office is nearly
>a true clone in the fact that it will be just as buggy and bloated.
Heh, correct. See vim with "vi compatibility mode". :)
--
Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your
ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls.
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From: Jens Frederik Dalsgaard Nielsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ICOP 1800 4 port rs232
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:22:38 +0200
Hi everybody
I have a pc104 module from ICOP:
4 * rs232 (16550)
shared IRQ
But I am missing a linux driver, and cant find it anywhere :-(
Can anybody help
regards
Jens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ref:
http://www.icop.com.tw/home/products/PC104/ICOP1800.htm
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From: peter pilsl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: real size of a file in a filesystem ...
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:24:19 +0200
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> >
> > thanx for any hints, links and informations,
> >
> Would the du (man du) command do what you need?
>
Unfortunately not. du calculate the needed diskspace on the current
filesystem (reiserFS or ext2), but not its space on the target-filesystem
(joliet-iso9660). On the other hand du is very usefor for calculating the
space for a folder and its subfolder, but no use for calculating the space
for 100.000nds of files seperately, which is what I need.
thanx a lot,
peter
--
pilsl@
goldfisch.at
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From: Markku Kolkka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why Might my 3C509 be DEFERRED?
Date: 27 Mar 2001 19:14:12 +0300
Neal Rhodes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I went into linuxconf and configured the NIC:
(...)
> 3Net device 33c509
This should be eth0
> 3Kernel module
And "3c509" goes here
> It seems to have created the normal stuff...
>
> [root@ducky sysconfig]# cat network
> NETWORKING=yes
> FORWARD_IPV4=false
> HOSTNAME="ducky.mdpcorp.com"
> GATEWAY="192.100.0.1"
> GATEWAYDEV="eth0"
>
> [root@ducky network-scripts]# cat ifcfg-3c509
You should have a file ifcfg-eth0, notice that your GATEWAYDEV points
to eth0
> DEVICE="3c509"
This should be eth0 as well.
--
Markku Kolkka
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: EZCamII
Date: 27 Mar 2001 16:16:49 GMT
Hello,
Please send me all data you have on the EZCamII Camera so that I can write a
good
driver for it.
Justin Hibbits -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: ALSA and CS46xx Driver
Date: 27 Mar 2001 16:27:10 GMT
Hello,
Has anyone gotten their cs4614 working with the ALSA drivers? I can't seem
to get mine to accept input from a mic, I have tried with the kernel
2.4.0-test9
driver, the alsa-0.5, 0.9beta2, and 0.9beta3 and can't get it to work right.
It plays beautifully, but does not record. Can someone help?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Schreibmaier)
Subject: iBCS with 2.2.19 Kernel
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 16:43:36 GMT
I just compiled the 2.2.19 kernel with gcc 2.95.3.
Compiles and runs just fine. I recompiled the
iBCS 2.1 module and it compiles just fine, too.
However, when I try to insmod iBCS it complains
about variable strlen_user undefined.
Everything works fine under 2.2.18.
Anybody else see this? Anybody know how to fix this?
TIA.
Bob
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From: Wolfgang Stefan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: sound over network
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:40:43 +0200
Hi,
is it possible to use the sound device on my linux box to output the sound
from a windows program (e.g. Wavlab) over my network ?
regards
Wolfgang
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chiefy)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: LILO vs. loadlin
Date: 27 Mar 2001 17:16:48 GMT
26 Mar 2001 18:26 UTC, Chiefy did say to the dudes:
> Just wondering if the best thing to do (with loadlin), would be to copy
> your kernel to /dev/hda1 and fire up Loadlin with something like;
>
> c:\path\to\kernel compact root=/dev/hdc1 ro
Just noticed the error. Missed loadlin off the front !!!
c:\path\to\loadlin c:\path\to\kernel compact root=/dev/hdc1 ro
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Chiefy. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: fred smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why Might my 3C509 be DEFERRED?
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 11:35:24 GMT
Neal Rhodes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I'm installing RH 6.2 on a Compaq Presario 5020 and loving it.
: (really!)
<snippage>
: and yet, when it boots, during the normal RH 6.2 initialization,
: it says
: Bringing up interface 3c509 Delaying 3c509 initialization [FAILED]
And what lines are in /etc/conf.modules for the network?
In my (admittedly limited) experience using 3c509 cards on several
computers, if there is an 'options' line there for the card that
gives address/IRQ info you'll get this failure. All that should '
be there (for the 3c509) is a line like:
alias eth0 3c509
If there are any others, comment them out and try rebooting.
Also, I assume you've already set the card to have PNP turned OFF ??
if not I suggest you do so.
Fred
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"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of
heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven."
============================== Matthew 7:21 (niv) =============================
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From: fred smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The death of MS Office?
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 11:38:12 GMT
Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: On 26 Mar 2001 23:08:01 GMT, MarkEllse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:>StarOffice is another near-clone. Yes, it has tables, it is file compatible
:>with MS Office, but then there is this confounded 'desktop' thing that drives
:>you mad.
: Uhm, then why not just turn it off?
So, don't just leave us hanging, fork over some info on HOW one does
that?
It's my understanding that the entire Star Office package is one single
gigantic program. How else does one use it except via the "desktop" ??
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---- Fred Smith -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----------------------------
"For him who is able to keep you from falling and to present you before his
glorious presence without fault and with great joy--to the only God our Savior
be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord, before
all ages, now and forevermore! Amen."
============================= Jude 1:24,25 (niv) =============================
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Yung)
Subject: Re: real size of a file in a filesystem ...
Date: 27 Mar 2001 17:26:39 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In my experience of making ISO images, I never have more than 500k of
overhead. I normally use the output of du and add 500k to it to do
the estimate. It comes very close. If I have to add more, I just
recreate the ISO file. It does not take long to regenerate an ISO
image. I use a slow machine (Sparc5 85MHz cpu). It takes about 12-14
minutes to make an 650MB ISO image. Don't forget 650MB is 681574400
bytes and 700MB is 734003200 bytes. If your cpu is faster than mine,
you can afford to recreate as often as you need.
peter pilsl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: My task is to divide myriads of files into subsets to burn them on a bunch
: of cdroms. For this I use mkisofs (to create a joliet-iso-filesystem) and
: I want to find a way to calculate the space a certain file or directory
: will take in the isofs later.
: I guess, the size I get reported from the system is not the size the file
: acutally needs on the media and then it will need some place in the
: directory-table and more.
: What I want now, is a fast method to estimate this 'real' size of a file
: as good as possible and on the other hand I would be interested in a deep-
: sight background of all this stuff. I read the filesystems-howto but didnt
: found the information I am looking for.
: thanx for any hints, links and informations,
: peter
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From: Holger Schlicker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: USB-Printer in SUSE 7.0 (Kernel 2.2.16) - Setup-Probleme
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:59:51 +0200
Hallo,
leider bin ich noch Fast-Neuling und kenne die internen Zusammenh=E4nge
noch
nicht richtig. Ich hab ein Problem mit der Einrichtung meines
USB-Druckers HP
DJ 930C. Der Drucker wird von Yast2 sauber erkannt und eingerichtet, er
druckt
auch. Nach dem n=E4chsten Neustart geht dann nichts mehr zu drucken. Imme=
r
wenn
ich dann die Yast2-Druckereinrichtung anwerfe l=E4uft er wieder (auch wen=
n
ich
die Installation sofort wieder beende und abbreche!), allerdings nur bis
zum
n=E4chsten Neustart. Nun habe ich nach dem Lesen vieler Hilfen folgenden
Zusammenhang bemerkt.
Es geht nicht mit folgender Einstellung:
holger:/home/holger # lsmod =
Module Size Used by =
=2E..
usb-ohci 12288 0 (unused)
usbcore 42760 0 [usb-ohci]
holger:/home/holger # ./printer_reset
rmmod: module printer is not loaded
mount: can't find usbdevfs in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
holger:/home/holger #
=====================================================
Inhalt von printer_reset (hab ich aus irgendeiner Hilfeseite):
fuser -k /dev/usblp0
rmmod printer
rmmod usb-ohci
umount usbdevfs
rmmod usbcore
modprobe usbcore
mount usbdevfs
modprobe usb-ohci
modprobe printer
=====================================================
Dann druckt er wieder:
holger:/home/holger # lsmod
Module Size Used by
printer 4420 0 (unused)
usb-ohci 12288 0 (unused)
usbcore 42760 0 [printer usb-ohci]
Ich denke mal da fehlt einfach das Modul "printer"?!?
Wo wird das geladen? =
Kann ich da was in der Datei /etc/modules.conf machen?
Des weiteren meldet mir xconsole gelegentlich folgendes:
Console log for holger
Mar 27 19:09:22 holger kernel: usb.c: This device is not recognized by
any installed USB driver.
So das war ganz schon viel, aber ich hoffe das jemand helfen kann.
Mein System:
Suse 7.0 auf AMD K6/II 400
Kernel 2.2.16
USB-Port l=E4uft einwandfrei unter Win"doof"s
Bitte schreibt mir nicht nur ein Posting, ich habe leider im Moment
keinen festen Newsserver, schickt bitte auch eine Mail an
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Danke
Holger
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From: "Harlan Grove" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The death of MS Office?
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:03:24 GMT
Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
...
>It does not set a standard. Microsoft change the standards with every
>release. The standards are secret, and secret standards are oxymoron.
Not quite. It's not _free_, but the Office Software Developers Kit does
provide details on the file formats, and Microsoft Developers Network has
even more infomation in this vein. FWLIW, there was no file format change
from Excel 97 to 2K. At least with regard to spreadsheets, arguing that the
product with 90%+ market share doesn't set a de facto standard is just
silly. That _doesn't_ mean we need to like it, though.
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