Linux-Misc Digest #489, Volume #20 Fri, 4 Jun 99 06:13:16 EDT
Contents:
Re: linux beginner-somebody help (Franklin Phan)
compile with special lib (Benjamin HERZOG)
Re: Making an ICQ server ("Jan Johansson")
Getting stuck in full screen mode (Jason Bond)
Re: enlightenment (Tim Sutherland)
How to edit a file in /proc (Charly)
Re: how to show the running daemon processes? (from beginner) (Charly)
SUSE 6.1 and (unfortunately!) MS Windows 9X Install Question (Dan Star)
how to show the running daemon processes? (from beginner) ("Gump Xu")
Re: problem with locate (Villy Kruse)
Re: Is This Illegal? ("Michael Schmeing")
Re: Rechte :-( ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: What are the differences between mySQL and mSQL? (Don Baccus)
Re: Migrating users from box a to box b ... (Marc Mutz)
Re: NT the best web platform?
Re: Making an ICQ server (Radovan Garabik)
Re: SuSE vs Red Hat? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Journaled filesystem for Linux ? (Oracle) (Anton Dischner)
Multi-OS machine (Linux, Solaris, NT) (Edward J. Smiley Jr.)
Re: SuSE 6.1 module disk ? (Jerome Mrozak)
Re: What are the differences between mySQL and mSQL? ("Jon Smirl")
Re: What are the differences between mySQL and mSQL? (Don Baccus)
Re: How to fsck root filesystem without rebooting? (Colin Watson)
Re: SuSE vs Red Hat? (DJs Disc)
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From: Franklin Phan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux beginner-somebody help
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 00:39:37 -0700
I feel O'Reilly & Associates put out some of the best books on Linux and
Unix. They have a good starter book titled "Running Linux".
Franklin
Vladan wrote:
> Gentleman, what Linux would YOu recomend ? I have heard that Red Hat is
> the best.
>
> And would You recomend any truly good books. Is there any books that
> makes parallel between Unix and Linux.
>
> And also any good web sites with tutorials on this topic ?
>
> thanks !!!
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
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From: Benjamin HERZOG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: compile with special lib
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 22:29:29 +0200
Hello,
I try to compile a program (Xtraceroute) that needs the TIFF lib.
I installed libtiff, and made a ldconfig, but when i run the configure
script of Xtraceroute, i get:
*** checking for TIFFOpen in -ltiff... no
*** configure: error: Missing tiff library
Thank you for helping.
Benjamin.
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From: "Jan Johansson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Making an ICQ server
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:30:20 +0200
>My recommendation is that you replace squid with socks5, which you can
[snip]
Why _replace_? Let them coexist, Squid is a chaching web/ftp proxy which is
good for performance.
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From: Jason Bond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Getting stuck in full screen mode
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 01:39:10 -0700
For several applications that use full screen mode...glquake for
example, when the program exits, it doesn't completely quit and I get
stuck in this text mode...with no prompt.
The only way I know to get out of it is to hit
ctrl-alt-f11 and then kill the X process as root which loggs me out.
Another question...is there a way to retrieve the current session once
ctrl-alt-f11 has been hit and the offending
process has been killed as root? Thanks kindly in advance,
Jason
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Sutherland)
Subject: Re: enlightenment
Date: 4 Jun 1999 08:22:39 GMT
In article <7j38h1$hun$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, benjamin j snyder wrote:
>to my own stupidity). What my question is, is how do you get the windows to be
>translucent? I can get them to be translucent when I am moving them, but dont
>know how to make the backgrounds translucent.
Take a look at Eterm's transparent background feature. If you are wanting all
your apps to have a transparent background, you're out of luck. This is
unrelated to the movement-transluscent feature (which is very nice, BTW,
unfortunately for this Pentium 75 w/1MB S3 868 video card :( )
--
Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no substitute for a good blaster at
your side.
- Han Solo
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From: Charly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How to edit a file in /proc
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 10:26:17 +0200
Hi all,
I want to edit a file that stands in /proc but I
don't know what
program to use to do that. I tried vi (maybe a silly
solution). It
worked but when I reboot, the modification are discarded.
If someone know, let me know too.
Thanks.
Charly.
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From: Charly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how to show the running daemon processes? (from beginner)
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 10:29:04 +0200
Gump Xu wrote:
> Hi,
> I tried "ps" to show the background running daemon processes,
> but failed. How should I do for that?
>
> thanks,
> Gump
Hello,
Try 'ps aux' : it will give you lot of informations about all
processes.
Try 'man ps' to see what options you really need.
You can also try 'ps fe' or better : 'ps auxfe' (| more) to see a
hierarchical view.
Hope this helps.
Charly.
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From: Dan Star <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SUSE 6.1 and (unfortunately!) MS Windows 9X Install Question
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 13:11:20 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi there,
I am going to jump into Linux and would like to buy a system
prequalified to run Linux such as IndyBox as I do not have enough spare
time to deal with the hassles of building a sytem from scratch. My
question is: if the computer comes with Linux installed is there a way
to install Windows 9X without having to re-install Linux?
--Dan
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From: "Gump Xu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: how to show the running daemon processes? (from beginner)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 15:31:03 +0800
Hi,
I tried "ps" to show the background running daemon processes,
but failed. How should I do for that?
thanks,
Gump
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: problem with locate
Date: 4 Jun 1999 10:00:33 +0200
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Rick Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> My RH 6.0 box does not have /etc/cron.daily/updatedb.cron. This happened
>when I upgraded from 5.2 to 6.0. It looks like 6.0 replaced it with slocate.
>Try executing slocate as root and see what happens.
>
That would be '/etc/cron.daily/slocate.cron'.
Slocate is supposed to be a more secure version of locate, probably
in the sense it won't show files the user are not otherwise entiteled
to know the existence of, for example in directories without r and x
permission for the particular user.
Villy
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From: "Michael Schmeing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is This Illegal?
Date: 02 Jun 1999 22:28:34 +0200
K Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Greetings!
>
> Would making or burning copies of Redhat, Slack, SuSE or other distros CDs
> and selling them for a profit considered illegal?
>
> I haven't checked out GPL yet, but I wanted to see if any of you guys knew
> out there. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
Inside the European Union: yes!!! There is some special copyright on
databases and -collections. The distros are data-collections and
therefore protected. Of course you are allowed to burn *parts* of the
distros on cd as long as you only use GPL-SW and no copyrighted like
yast or StarOffice from SuSE but create just copies of the complete
distro is not allowed unless the docs for the distro say otherwise. As
far as I know (I have SuSE 6.0 but never needed this info and I am too
tired at the moment to look it up) SuSE allows to copy and
redistribute some of their distro but retain complete copyright on
their (very good) handbook.
>
> Steve
Michael
--
Michael Schmeing, Artillerieweg 46, D-26129 Oldenburg
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
www: http://www.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE/~michae2
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Rechte :-(
Date: 3 Jun 1999 18:16:56 GMT
NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb
am 28 May 1999 19:02 GMT in comp.os.linux.misc:
N> Hallo Freunde der weltweiten Spinnenwebe,
Dies ist eine Englische Gruppe, also vergraule alle anderen Leser nicht
mit unserem "unverst�ndlichem" Deutsch.
Please do not angry all the people out there, using our "misunderstandable"
german language.
I will follow up in English.
N> Als root kann ich auf meiner Windows-Partition schalten und walten.
N> Loeschen, alte .doc Files lesen, aendern und zurueck speichern, alles
N> kein Problem.
N> Gehe ich aber per User hinein, kann ich die Files lediglich lesen. Ein
N> Aendern und abspeichern auf der Windoof-Partition ist nicht moeglich.
N> Zugriff verweigert, bzw. unerlaubte Operation....
This is not a problem, this is a feature. Because Windoze does not know
about filesystem permissions, so the whole vfat Filesystem has to
be dedicated to one user/group.
You may mount the filesystem with the options uid=value and gid=value
with the uid/gid (user/group id) pair you want. Then you have the
wanted permissions.
This is valid for the *whole* mounted filesystem. Attention all users
belonging to that group wil be able to *write* !
By the way you will find further literature in "man mount".
N> Ich habe den User unter einer neu angelegten Gruppe erzeugt. Wie kann ich
N> jetzt die Rechte aller User dieser Gruppe aendern? Irgendwie komme ich
N> damit nicht klar.
N> Beispiele:
N> chmod u+w ... hier bin ich der User, ok.
N> chmod a+w ... das gilt wohl fuer alle und jedermann, oder?
chmod o+w is right here.
N> chmod g+w ... das sollte fuer die Gruppe gelten, doch welche Gruppe?
N> Wie kann ich expliziet einer Gruppe bestimmte Rechte einraeumen?
N> Vor allem der uneingeschraenkte Zugriff auf den VFAT-Partitionen
N> muss mir gelingen. Sonst gewoehne ich mir noch an, jedesmal als
N> root einzuloggen.
That woul'nt be good.
Mount the vfat filesystem like that
mount /dev/yourpart /mnt -o uid=100,gid=100
for example. then you're ready.
N> Ich hoffe, mein Problem ist klar geworden und fuer einen Profi was
N> zum laecheln ;-)
Why smile about, every one had to start up with that.
N> A. Grobelnik, 26871 Papenburg/Ems
mfG
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Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.lang.java.databases
Subject: Re: What are the differences between mySQL and mSQL?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Don Baccus)
Date: 3 Jun 1999 11:38:23 PST
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Paul D. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>%% [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Don Baccus) writes:
>
> db> Paul D. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >> I'm talking about "free speech", not "free beer". MySQL is much more
> >> free than Sybase, since it comes with complete source code, permission
> >> to modify it, etc.
> db> On the other hand, Sybase is a proven enterprise-class database
> db> engine...
>Your comment is completely orthogonal to mine, as far as I can tell :).
The point is that sometimes getting the job done is more important
than principle, and for some environments a non-transactional db
just ain't the way to go. At the moment, Sybase is really the
only practical free db out there if you need a full-featured
database engine.
I HOPE, as I've said before, that open-source Postgres will grow
into a solid, reliable db and that the folks working on it seem
to be making great progress.
But at the moment I wouldn't trust a system dealing with, say,
people's money to either Postgres or MySQL and Sybase is really
the only free option I know of.
As a total aside, AOLServer, which has great db connectivity
features and runs great on linux, has just annouced their next
version will be Open Source. It's been free thus far, but not
Open Source...
Despite the name, it wasn't developed by AOL (which is why
it works, of course).
--
- Don Baccus, Portland OR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Nature photos, on-line guides, at http://donb.photo.net
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Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 19:24:52 +0200
From: Marc Mutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Migrating users from box a to box b ...
Jonathan wrote:
>
> Is it just a case of copying the password and group files along with
> /home? What about /var/spool/mail ?
>
If your system does not use shadow-passwords, it will really do.
If your system used shadow-pw's, you have to update the shadow files,
but I don't know how to do that.
Moving /var/spool/mail also suffices (did that myself).
If you are upgrading to a more or less totally different system, it
might be a good idea to 'adduser' them and move /home/xxx to
/home/xxx/old_xxx, just to get rid of old stuff...
Marc Mutz
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: NT the best web platform?
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 11:30:55 -0700
On Thu, 3 Jun 1999 10:21:04 -0700, Chad Mulligan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Miguel Cruz wrote in message <7Hy53.8280$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>>Chad Mulligan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> The Access Team anyway, I did see a fix for that on MS's web site though.
>>> There'sstill a major difference between a couple of data records and an
>>> entire hard drive though.
>>
>>I think we're getting closer now. A bug that corrupts a database is
>>professional, but one that wipes data on a hard drive is unprofessional.
>>
>>I just want to know where to draw the line, because professionalism is very
>>important in my line of work. This sort of guidance can be invaluable.
>>
>>miguel
>
>Okay, pay attention, The bug in Access has a fix. The bug in Disk Druid
>doesn't. The bug in Access might make your phone book inaccurate, the bug
>in Disk Druid would destroy your system. Which programmer would you hire?
I guess that depends on what you view as worse: an
untrustworty database or a system that has to be
restored from backups.
--
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random collection of spare parts optimized / | \
for cost rather than ease...
In search of sane PPP Docs? Try http://penguin.lvcm.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Radovan Garabik)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Making an ICQ server
Date: 3 Jun 1999 18:28:35 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc Azfar Kazmi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Hi,
: Is there any ICQ daemon available? I looked at freshmeat.net but found
: none stable. How can I make an ICQ box?
there is an ongoing development... look at http://phantom.iquest.net/icq/,
there was some discussion about it
: I have provided a cache server to users and they connect to Internet
: through that. Since they wish to use ICQ and Squid doesn't allow that
By cache server you mean http caching proxy?
And by "they connect to Internet" you mean "they browse www" ?
: therefore I thought why I don't make my own box an ICQ server. Is that
: possible? I have never used ICQ though. I even don't know how the client
: works.
it is (will be) certainly possible, but it is not what your users want. Such a server
would not be connected to mirabilis network, and therefore useless (for
intended purpose at least)
Is your server acting as gateway? Then there is no problem, users can just
connect to icq servers without problems. If it acts as firewall, you need to
allow access to port 4000. And there is a kernel module to allow use of icq
through ip masquerading (somewhere on fresheat...)
: I am using Redhat 4.1 kernel 2.0.34
upgrade :-)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: SuSE vs Red Hat?
Date: 3 Jun 1999 18:19:36 GMT
In the sacred domain of comp.os.linux.misc didst Dan Star <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
eloquently scribe:
: Didn't SUSE put YAST under the GPL?
Not according to the SuSE 6.0 evaluation disk, I don't think.
(Not that I've read the full COPYRIGHT.yast file)
They might have since then.
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From: Anton Dischner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Journaled filesystem for Linux ? (Oracle)
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 11:12:35 +0200
Hi netters,
we'd like to run a Oracle database on a production system with Linux.
Unfortunately tests had shown that a power failure will destroy
the database.
There are rumors that Oracle for Linux 8.0.5 isn't correctly
coded (no fsync at the right time).
A journaled filesystem would be a solution.
Any infos, ideas,
Kind regards,
Toni
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From: Edward J. Smiley Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Multi-OS machine (Linux, Solaris, NT)
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 17:40:30 GMT
I am trying to boot the following OS's on one machine: NT 4.0 SP3,
Solaris 7, and Mandrake Linux (Red Hat w/ KDE). Here is what I have
found so far.
Here are my disks:
Master: 2.0G Maxtor
Slave: 6.5G Seagate
I read that this works: Partition the 2G into two 1G partitions. Load
NT onto a FAT partition and load Solaris on the other partition.
Then put Mandrake on the 6.5G and make sure that the swap stays with
this disk and not over on the Solaris partition.
Has anyone done this or any variation using these three operating
systems? I was told that I am going to need Randish Boot Manager and
Bootpart to do this. Has anyone ever used these before? Can you give
me any experiences.
Any suggestions appreciated!!
Thanks for reading!
--
Ed Smiley
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From: Jerome Mrozak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SuSE 6.1 module disk ?
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 13:14:15 -0500
John Robson wrote:
>
> x-no-archive: yes
> I just bought SuSE 6.1 Linux. It came with a boot disk and a disk labeled
> "modules". What is the purpose of the modules disk ? It wasn't needed in
> the installation. I couldn't find reference to it anywhere in the manual.
> My modules disk happened to be unreadable, unformatted or corrupted. Two
> possibilities come to mind :
>
> A) The disk is supposed to have something in it, but by very bad luck of
> the draw, the copy I just purchased was defective, corrupted.
>
> B) SuSE deliberately gives away an unformatted disk for some later use.
>
> Which is right ? Can someone tell me what's the purpose and use of the
> "modules" disk ?
Ralph Miarka (see other method) is correct. During the install on my
laptop, if I want to boot using PCMCIA devices I must get those drivers
from the 'modules' disk when the installer prompts me. The SCSI modules
are on the boot disk, and (you may have noticed) are loaded from the
same menu as prompts for PCMCIA devices.
It also holds that the disk is not unformatted, or at least empty.
Don't mess with it, because you might have a future install that needs
it.
Jerome.
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From: "Jon Smirl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.lang.java.databases
Subject: Re: What are the differences between mySQL and mSQL?
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 15:16:56 -0400
If you have one writer and many readers, and that writer is updating several
tables in a dependent manner, how do you keep the many readers from getting
partial results? How about cursor stability for the readers? Are the
readers sorting the data; what about an insert happening in the middle of
the sort?
In a lightly loaded server your probability of encountering these problems
is low but not zero. Stress the server with lots of activity and these
problems will show themselves. Transactions and isolation levels address
these issues.
--
Jon Smirl
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.lang.java.databases
Subject: Re: What are the differences between mySQL and mSQL?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Don Baccus)
Date: 3 Jun 1999 12:12:37 PST
In article <ViA53.1666$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
bryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>again, like I said, with multiple writers contending for common
>resources, yes you're right. for the "one writer, many readers" you
>do NOT need xactions.
Not necessarily true. If you have several related tables
that need to be logically updated at once, the atomicity of
the transactional model is, well, useful if there's a crash
while records are being inserted or updated.
Even if you don't have a crash, when you have such related
tables it's generally kinda nice if "select" statements are
guaranteed to return information in a consistent state.
Without transactions, in this scenario a "select" can pick
up stuff where only a subset of the tables have been
updated.
Of course, even with transactions the programmer can screw
things up :)
It sounds like your application's really simple, and MySQL
sounds like it's great for you.
--
- Don Baccus, Portland OR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Nature photos, on-line guides, at http://donb.photo.net
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Watson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: How to fsck root filesystem without rebooting?
Date: 4 Jun 1999 09:27:32 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Graeme Geldenhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I had a horrible fs crash last week, due to my PC not rebooting and
> Linux
> not checking for any errors.
>
> Is there a way I can make cron run fsck daily and mail me if there are
> serious problems? I ran e2fsck, fsck and fsck.ext2, but they all say
> that the root filesystem is mounted and damage will occur if fsck is
> ran.
You could try running 'mount -n -o remount,ro /' beforehand to remount
the root filesystem read-only (the -n is needed to stop it trying to
write to /etc/mtab), and then run 'mount -o remount,rw /' afterwards
to mount it read/write again. You might experience strange effects if
anything tries to write to the filesystem during that time, though ...
> All I want it to do is check it without trying to fix anything and if it
> comes across serious errors, mail me...
The mailing bit is easy, 'cos cron will mail you standard output and
standard error of whatever it runs. You could pipe it through grep or
a perl script to filter out cases when it's worked, I suppose.
Good luck,
--
Colin Watson [cjw44 at cam.ac.uk]
Trinity College, Cambridge, and Computer Science [riva.ucam.org]
"Oh Danny Boy, the pipes, the pipes are calling,
From glen to glen, and down the mountainside ..."
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From: DJs Disc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: SuSE vs Red Hat?
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 02:41:46 -0500
Michel Catudal wrote:
>
> Keith Phillips wrote:
> >
> > Much agreement from me. I've used RH 4.1, 4.2, and 5.1. When 6.0 came
> > out, I thought about it, then I thought about the price jump :-( I'd
> > been thinking about using a different distro for a while, anyway, so
> > I went with SuSE. Looked at Debian, but they didn't ship (or recommend)
> > the 2.2.x kernel...
> >
>
> ????
>
> At Cheapbytes I found those prices
>
> S.U.S.E 6.1 $34.95
> RedHat 6.0 $1.99
> Mandrake 6.0 $1.99
> BSD 3.2 $7.99
> Slackware 4.0 $3.99
>
> Price jump you say?
>
> --
> Tired of Windows' rebootive multitasking?
> then try Linux's preemptive multitasking
> http://www.netonecom.net/~bbcat/
> We have software, food, music, news, search,
> history, electronics and genealogy pages.
Not really, since that quoted price of SuSE 6.1 at cheapbytes.com is the
official SuSE, compare RH official, Caldera OL Offical and SuSE official
SuSE 6.1 Official sells for 29.99+
Redhat 6 Official core sells for 39.95 Official full 79.95
Caldera OL 2.2 Official sells for 32.99+
Now compare the differences
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