Linux-Misc Digest #489, Volume #21               Sat, 21 Aug 99 13:13:07 EDT

Contents:
  Reduce Log File Size - How? (ORRIN)
  Re: Where is the scsi Dat tape? (Robert Heller)
  Re: ICQ?? (Sorin Balea)
  Re: wicked 3d (Robert Heller)
  Re: Any Support for PCI Modems? (Robert Heller)
  Re: reading file on Win98 part. (Cooper)
  Re: *nix vs. MS security (Thomas L|fgren)
  Unable to Compile glibc-2.1.1 Using Gcc-2.95 (Habibi4me)
  Re: 3com ISA cards and linux ("Kalkas")
  IDE CD Recording (Michael Tyka)
  Re: 3com ISA cards and linux ("Kalkas")
  Re: Real player G2 installed but? ("Duy D.")
  Re: Reduce Log File Size - How? ("Robert Grizzard")
  Re: Can I switch from OS/2 to Linux and be happy? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Is there a way to mount a samba share as a directory? (K. Eggleston)
  Re: 3com ISA cards and linux (Ben De Rydt)
  Re: 3com ISA cards and linux ("Kalkas")

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ORRIN)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Reduce Log File Size - How?
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 13:55:27 GMT

I am running SuSE 6.1 and the var/log/messages file is getting very
large.  Is there a utility to limit its size by either date or size?
Can I just occasionaly delete it?
=============================
Orrin - Long Island, New York
Orrin's Caribbean Index - http://www.orrin.org/carib/
Syosset Camera Club - http://www.orrin.org/syocc/
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Our e-mail address is at  http://www.orrin.org/email.html

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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Where is the scsi Dat tape?
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 15:01:59 GMT

  Douglas Nichols <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  In a message on Thu, 12 Aug 1999 10:46:25 -0700, wrote :

DN> I havve a scsi Dat tape, and it is seen by the scsi device, but what
DN> device is it mapped to in the /dev/s????

Should be /dev/st0 (first drive, second drive would be /dev/st1, etc.).

You might want to create a symlink:

# cd /dev
# ln -sf st0 tape

to make things convenient.

DN> 
DN> Thanks
DN> 
DN> --
DN> Cheers, dn
DN> 
DN> Douglas Nichols                              [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DN> ---------------------------------------------------------------
DN> National Wilms Tumor Study Group                   206.667.4283
DN> Seattle, WA
DN> 
DN> 
DN> 
DN>                                                                                    
               






                               
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From: Sorin Balea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: ICQ??
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 15:05:19 GMT

Christopher Lu wrote:

> Can someone please recommend a good icq program for Linux?  I'm running
> Mandrake 6 and need for the program to be able to interact with
> mirabillis/aol windows icq (see/talk to windows icq).
>
> Thanks in advance!

Kicq, is very similar to the Mirabilis ICQ, don't think it works with AOL
IM


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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: wicked 3d
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 15:02:04 GMT

  "Ruairi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  In a message on Thu, 12 Aug 1999 20:37:09 +0100, wrote :

"> Hi,
"> 
"> I got myself a Metabyte Wicked 3d Vengance 16mb graphics card based on the
"> 3dfx Voodoo Banshee.
"> 
"> Does Redhat 5.2 support this?

Not obviously in the card database:

sauron.deepsoft.com% grep -i Banshee /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/Cards 
sauron.deepsoft.com% grep -i Voodoo /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/Cards
sauron.deepsoft.com% grep -i 3dfx /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/Cards
sauron.deepsoft.com% grep -i Metabyte /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/Cards
sauron.deepsoft.com% uname -a
Linux sauron.deepsoft.com 2.0.36 #1 Tue Oct 13 22:17:11 EDT 1998 i486 unknown

It *might* work as a generic VGA or SVGA (640x480 or 800x600, 4bit (16
colors) or 8 bit (256 colors)).  You might be able to upgrade your
XFree86 to a newer version, which *might* support it, or there might be
a beta X-Server available at www.xfree86.org or www.suse.com.

"> 
"> 
"> Thanks
"> 
"> 
"> Ruairi
"> 
"> 
"> 
"> 
"> 
"> 
">                                                                                     
   






                 
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Any Support for PCI Modems?
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 15:02:03 GMT

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cameron L. Spitzer),
  In a message on 12 Aug 1999 19:14:46 GMT, wrote :

CLS> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
Michael McConnell wrote:
CLS> >On Wed, 11 Aug 1999, Jon Skeet wrote:
CLS> >
CLS> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
CLS> >> > Hi!
CLS> >> >  I Just got a PCI Modem and found out that they are not supported at all
CLS> >> > in Linux.
CLS> 
CLS> Some are.  It's not the PCI-ness that's the problem.
CLS> The cheap modems that aren't supported in Linux generally use the
CLS> host CPU to do the digital signal processing instead of a DSP chip
CLS> on the modem.  It happens that most common PCI-resident modems use
CLS> this cost-cutting trick.
CLS> 
CLS> 
CLS> >> >Is there anyone who is looking into that? This is not a
CLS> >> > winmodem (it does not say "winmodem", but it says you need windoze)
CLS> 
CLS> Many PC add-in products say "designed for Windows-95" because there is
CLS> a strong belief in marketing departments that they lose sales if they
CLS> don't say it.  And many vendors are afraid Microsoft will hurt them if
CLS> they advertise Linux compatibility.
CLS> (3Com seems to be getting over that.  Today I saw an ad for a PC Card modem
CLS> from them, claiming it worked with Linux.)
CLS> 
CLS> You get a very strong hint that a modem is "soft" (that is it does
CLS> not have its own DSP) if it says it requires a Pentium-class processor
CLS> of a certain speed.
CLS> A device driver that does modem DSP functions is quite compute-intensive;
CLS> a 486DX-100 probably can't do it.
CLS> A 386SX-25 can keep up with a traditional "controller-based" modem.
CLS> 
CLS> The win-printers really bug me.  I almost bought a Xerox-P8.
CLS> Then checked the Linux Printers Database (link in the Printing-HOWTO) and
CLS> found out it's a paperweight.  My buddy bought a Lexmark 3200, another
CLS> paperweight.  And there is no processor-speed hint on the packaging of
CLS> either one.

There would not be.  Printers are (as a rule) *slow* devices -- always
will be, due to massive (in a relative sense) *mechanical* overhead.  Also
a WinPrinter would always be pure digital, unlike a WinModem, which must
have an analog side.  Since the WinPrinters are all line-buffer /
moving print-head types (typical of ALL low-end 'dot matrix printers --
all desktop impact and ink-jet printers are like this), the only time
critical aspect is on a line strip basis and the head speed is
(relatively) low in all cases.  I expect that a 386SX-25 could push a
WinPrinter, if it had to.

The head movement mechanics can be eliminated by having a fixed head that
is the full width of the print page, this means increasing the number of
jets from the typical 8-48 vertical to an array of 8-48 by 5,100, or
about 1/4 million for a 48 jet type.  Yikes!  A laser page printer would
be cheaper (and faster).

A modem has no significant moving parts, except maybe a relay or two as
isolation from the phone line (on-hook / off-hook).  Just bits <=>
audio waves.  A fast modem == more bits & more complex waves per unit
time == more processing per unit time.  


A dedicated DSP chip w/ microprocessor controller will always do this
better (and effectively cheaper) than a general purpose computer. 
WinModems have no real advantage, except as a *cheap* 'hack' to sell
unnecessarily fast host processors.  That is, they come off as cheap
and force the consumer to spend much more money for a more expensive
main computer.  You save $25-$30 on the modem and spend an extra
$200-$500 on the host processor / system (that includes the $50-$80
M$oft tax).  Spending a few dollars more for a *real* modem, means you
can get more out of your host processor or get the *same* effective
performance with a slightly lower-end (and slightly cheaper) host
processor.


WinPrinters are in much the same boat, for many of the same reasons.  It
is not like there is a lack of cheap low-end microprocessor elements --
chips like 683xx's, 80186 types, 8080-ish, 8048/8051s, and various
embedded RISC parts, etc.  Slow buffer SRAMs (don't need truly high speed
RAM for a printer's line raster buffer) are cheap as well.

CLS> 
CLS> 
CLS> Cameron
CLS> 
CLS>                                                               






                                                                                       
                      
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From: Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: reading file on Win98 part.
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 17:21:04 -0100

downtown wrote:
> 
> I just downloaded the 2.2.11 kernel.  However I had to download it via
> Win98 because I have no Linux Internet connection yet.  How can I get to
> the Win98 partition through Linux to copy the file to a Linux partition?
> Any help would be appreciated.

mount -t vfat <windows device> /mnt
Make sure you have vfat in your kernel. If you don't have it, try msdos
instead of vfat in that command.

Cooper

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: *nix vs. MS security
From: Thomas L|fgren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 21 Aug 1999 16:17:52 +0200

>>>>> "Lee" == Lee Doolan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>>>>> "David" == David C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

    Lee>                      [. . .]

    David> processor architectures involved.  So binary-executable
    David> virusses will tend not to spread as far.  (This doesn't
    David> prevent virusses written in script-languages, however.)

    Lee>                      [. . .]

    Lee> prediction: it won't be long before someone writes an _ass
    Lee> kicking_ java based virus.

Preditcion: No ass-kicking virus will do much damage on a
well-administered UNIX system.

Tom
-- 
T. Lofgren - Wherever I lay my .emacs, that's my ${HOME}
These opinions are mine, not yours.  Get your own damn opinions.

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From: Habibi4me <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Unable to Compile glibc-2.1.1 Using Gcc-2.95
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 11:17:24 -0400

Has anyone had a successful story compiling glibc-2.1.1 using gcc-2.95? 
I have just compiled and installed full version of gcc-2.95 on my
SuSE-6.1 Linux distro.  When I tried to compile the glibc-2.1.1 using
gcc-2.95, it failed with a bad message on gcc-2.95 in the process of
configuring the glibc-2.1.1:

 loading cache ./config.cache
 checking host system type... i586-pc-linux-gnu
 checking sysdep dirs... sysdeps/i386/elf crypt/sysdeps/unix 
                         linuxthreads/sysdepschecking 
                         for a BSD compatible install...
/usr/bin/ginstall -c
 checking whether ln -s works... yes
 checking build system type... i586-pc-linux-gnu
 checking for gcc... gcc
 checking version of gcc... 2.95, bad         <====== ************
 checking for make... make
 checking version of make... 3.76.1, ok
 checking for msgfmt... msgfmt
 checking version of msgfmt... 0.10.35, ok
 checking for makeinfo... makeinfo
 checking version of makeinfo... 1.68, ok
 configure: error:
 *** Some critical program is missing or too old.
 *** Check the INSTALL file for required versions.

The INSTALL file from the glibc did not mention that gcc-2.95 cannot be
used to compile the glibc-2.1.1.  Any suggestion or input?

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From: "Kalkas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
at.linux,aus.computers.linux,be.comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: 3com ISA cards and linux
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 17:50:05 +0200


Toni Grass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Kalkas wrote:
> >
> > I have been seriously thinking to use Linux and stop using Windows 98. I
am
> > fascinated by Linux's stability and security.
> >
> > Therefore, I have seriously planing to install Linux and USE IT.
> >
> > However, it seems that it is not possible for me to use Linux, since I
use
> > cable modem with a 3com ISA card. More precisely, I use 3com EtherLink
III
> > ISA (3C509/3C509b) network interface card, and there are no drivers
which
> > will support my card in Linux.
> >
> > Did someone else have similar problems?
> >
>
> This card is definitely supported by Linux!! I used the same NIC
> together with a cable modem. The only problem is plug&punish - you will
> have to switch it off.
>
> regards
> Toni

Toni,

That was good news indeed:))

How shall I get those drivers? I have been at the 3com site, but they do not
mention Linux; I plan to phone them directly.

How did you get your drivers?

Regards,
Kalkas





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From: Michael Tyka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: IDE CD Recording
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 15:24:04 GMT

Hi everyone,

I�ve got an IDE Cd Recorder which I need an appropriate software
for. Unfortunately I was unable to find anything that works with IDE
and not with SCSI recorders.

Please help!

Bye,


   Michael Tyka


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From: "Kalkas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
at.linux,aus.computers.linux,be.comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: 3com ISA cards and linux
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 18:23:10 +0200


> 3com 3c509 is almost the best ISA card to use in a simple linux
> machine :)
>
> I use 2 of them in router ... works just fine !

Thank you for your answer!

Then one of my worries are over:)

I also assume that Linux would support Creative Sound Blaster PCI 128 and
monitor MAG InnoVision DX15F. Am I correct in my assumption?

Yours Sincerely,
Kalkas




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From: "Duy D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Real player G2 installed but?
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 16:07:49 +0000

Paul wrote:

> I installed Real player but don`t seem to be able to run the program,
> and don`t seem to be able to find where it is on my system!
> If i try to re-install i get the message "program already installed!
> How can i find it??
>                Paul

find /usr -name realplay -print


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From: "Robert Grizzard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Reduce Log File Size - How?
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 10:37:54 -0500

[followups set to comp.os.linux.misc]

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ORRIN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am running SuSE 6.1 and the var/log/messages file is getting very
> large.  Is there a utility to limit its size by either date or size?
> Can I just occasionaly delete it?

I'm running a cron job as root that deletes /var/log/messages.5 then 
moves /var/log/messages.4 to /var/log/messages.5 and repeats until it 
moves /var/log/messages to /var/log/messages.1.  It then touches 
/var/log/messages (to make the file) and issues a "kill -1 `cat 
/var/run/syslogd.pid`" to restart logging.  If I wanted/needed more 
than five days of logs I'd write a shell script to do the same things 
then call the script from cron. 

HTH

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.os2.misc
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Can I switch from OS/2 to Linux and be happy?
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 15:54:23 GMT

:>I wonder, as I'm sure a few other VAR's wonder, what is the logical
:>progression for Warp now?
:>I don't want to turn that last statement into some sort of flame war
:>about finer points of functionality, but rather its a broad statement
:>with of course a strong view coming from my own business interests
:>which are mainly concerned with small business (not enterprise).

IBM and RedHat if not officially dating are at least seeing each other
a lot.
What this will mean in the future is anyones guess but for now it
makes for a marvelous duel-boot relationship; no "Switching" needed.

I've been able to create a pretty equivelant set of apps on Warp4 and
RH6. Using 'nix-to-OS2 ports and a bunch of Java I could prolly
survive on either platform and continue to manage my business and
other interests. I still enjoy and trust myself with Warp4 a whole lot
more tho.

In a perfect world IBM+RH would provide the tools and a path for
either side to migrate to "Desktop2001" :-)



wishfulthinking
jehnk



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (K. Eggleston)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Is there a way to mount a samba share as a directory?
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 10:55:00 -0500

> See 'man smbmount'

ah-hah... I had a feeling this one'd be right in my face.

> 
> Regards,
> 
> Phil
> 
> K. Eggleston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Hi...  Is there a way to mount a particular samba share as a directory?
> > I'd like to work with files on remote machines just as if they were local
> > on my machine.  FTP and smbclient are good but working with my remote
> > files using bash would be best.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > -Kim
> 
> 
> 

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From: Ben De Rydt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
at.linux,aus.computers.linux,be.comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: 3com ISA cards and linux
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 17:55:26 +0200

Kalkas wrote:
> 
> Toni Grass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > This card is definitely supported by Linux!! I used the same NIC
> > together with a cable modem. The only problem is plug&punish - you will
> > have to switch it off.
> >
> > regards
> > Toni
> 
> Toni,
> 
> That was good news indeed:))
> 
> How shall I get those drivers? I have been at the 3com site, but they do not
> mention Linux; I plan to phone them directly.
> 
> How did you get your drivers?
> 
They're included in the standard kernel.

Greetings,
Ben.

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From: "Kalkas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
at.linux,aus.computers.linux,be.comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: 3com ISA cards and linux
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 17:53:12 +0200


Kalkas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> Toni Grass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Kalkas wrote:
> > >
> > > I have been seriously thinking to use Linux and stop using Windows 98.
I
> am
> > > fascinated by Linux's stability and security.
> > >
> > > Therefore, I have seriously planing to install Linux and USE IT.
> > >
> > > However, it seems that it is not possible for me to use Linux, since I
> use
> > > cable modem with a 3com ISA card. More precisely, I use 3com EtherLink
> III
> > > ISA (3C509/3C509b) network interface card, and there are no drivers
> which
> > > will support my card in Linux.
> > >
> > > Did someone else have similar problems?
> > >
> >
> > This card is definitely supported by Linux!! I used the same NIC
> > together with a cable modem. The only problem is plug&punish - you will
> > have to switch it off.
> >
> > regards
> > Toni
>
> Toni,
>
> That was good news indeed:))
>
> How shall I get those drivers? I have been at the 3com site, but they do
not
> mention Linux; I plan to phone them directly.

OH so stupid of me. Now I understand! The Linux supports it. OK!

Thanks folks! :-)

Kalkas




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