Linux-Misc Digest #523, Volume #20 Sun, 6 Jun 99 18:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Re: HELP! How to get out when netscape 4.5 freezes? (Ray)
Re: crontab to start PPP (Gerald Jensen)
Re: A few questions (Ed Young)
Re: Something is destroying my man pages! (Ed Young)
Re: HELP! How to get out when netscape 4.5 freezes? (Ray)
Re: CRW4416 crashes my system .. a little help please ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Unstable Netscape (Mircea)
Re: Mount CD-ROM over network and report as CD-ROM (Onno Ebbinge)
A MUST read article for Linux fans and wannabes. (Alex Lam)
How do I modify groups for menus in AnotherLevel(fvwm95)? (Lewis)
Linux (RH 6.0) & Seti error ? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: OpenLinux (Karel Jansens)
Re: HELP: 2.2.* kernel boot fails after I've recompiled (Clive DaSilva)
Re: A few questions (Gerald Willmann)
Re: HELP! How to get out when netscape 4.5 freezes? (Jeremiah)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ray)
Subject: Re: HELP! How to get out when netscape 4.5 freezes?
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 19:35:18 GMT
On Sat, 05 Jun 1999 16:19:07 -0700, Alex Lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi,
> I'm using SuSE 6.0, netscape 4.5 came with it. Everything runs
>fine until
>I was browsing a web site, and suddenly all data transfer stopped and
>netscape frozen
>up. All the keys and mouse are disabled.
The only thing I've ever seen lock up Linux this bad is a hardware problem
(ie a dead cpu fan etc).
> <ctrl><alt><del> had no
>effect either. I was forced to power off (without shutdown command) to
>reboot. Fortunity, linux lived through the process.
<Ctrl><Alt><Del> shouldn't do anything in X. <Ctrl><Alt><Backspace> should
kill X however.
>
> What should I do if this happen again?
Just to gather some data, try hitting <CapsLock> or <NumLock> and see if the
LEDs on your keyboard respond, if not then chances are very good that you
have a hardware problem. If you are on the net when this happens maybe you
could go to a friend's house or maybe a Net Cafe and try to telnet in from
there? Alternativly you could set up your machine to answer the phone and
then dial in from somewhere else.
The bottom line is that while Netscape is not as stable is it should be, it
should NEVER lock up Linux and I've never seen it even take out X. If it
does then there is something VERY wrong.
--
Ray
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From: Gerald Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: crontab to start PPP
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 15:02:10 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Juergen Heinzl wrote:
> In article <7je5kv$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Gerald Jensen wrote:
> >Juergen Heinzl wrote:
> >
> >> In article <7jcbn2$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Gerald Jensen wrote:
> >> >Juergen Heinzl wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> In article <7jbdhk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Gerald Jensen wrote:
> >> >> >I'm having trouble getting a crontab to start a PPP session at 11:59pm
> >> >> >every night. I've tried ....
> >> >> >
> >> >> >59 23 * * * /etc/ppp/ppp-on
> >> >>
> >> >> /etc/ppp/ppp-on ought to be a script run by the pppd, not to start
> >> >> up a connection.
> >> >> [...]
> >> [...]
> >> >That is correct ... ppp-on is a shell script I use to start PPP sessions.
> >> >From the command line, if I type ppp-on, the dialer initializes the modem
> >> >and dials. I need the crontab to do it for me unattended.
> >>
> >> Juergen ... get some sleep 8) ... so ...
> >> * /etc/ppp/ppp-on is executable
> >> * the first line is #! /bin/sh (or ksh or csh, whatever)
> >> * you've installed the crontab file as user ...
> >> * you're allowed as user ... to use cron
> >> ...
> [...]
> >Juergen:
> Yes Sir ...
> >
> >Following are the four scripts that are involved (the crontab script, and
> >three scripts used to make / break the PPP connection).
> >
> ># crontab to set up PPP connection, get time/date
> ># use /bin/sh to run commands, no matter what /etc/passwd says
> >SHELL=/bin/sh
> ># Make PPP connection using ppp-on shell script
> ># MAILTO=""
> ># 5 0 * * * /etc/ppp/ppp-on
> ># 6 0 * * * /usr/bin/rdate -s -p 132.163.135.130
> ># 7 0 * * * /etc/ppp/ppp-off
> ... this will not work, at least if those '#' in the last three
> lines are really there, since they mean "comment" ... well, it
> does work, it just does nothing.
> [...]
>
> Cheers,
> Juergen
>
> --
> \ Real name : J�rgen Heinzl \ no flames /
> \ EMail Private : [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ send money instead /
Juergen:
There a number of calls in the text file this crontab comes from (I only sent
you part of it), and I mistakenly forgot to remove the # signs in the sample I
sent you. This is the applicable portion of the crontab as it *actually is* ...
# crontab to set up PPP connection, get time/date
# use /bin/sh to run commands, no matter what /etc/passwd says
SHELL=/bin/sh
# Make PPP connection using ppp-on shell script
# MAILTO=""
5 0 * * * /etc/ppp/ppp-on
6 0 * * * /usr/bin/rdate -s -p 132.163.135.130
7 0 * * * /etc/ppp/ppp-off
... and does not work. If the PPP session is already up, the call to rdate works
fine.
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From: Ed Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A few questions
Date: 6 Jun 1999 20:16:52 GMT
Brian wrote:
>
> Okay, here goes:
>
> I've got RH5.2 and I want to upgrade to 6.0. I've downloaded the kernel,
> but I don't know what to do from there.
You need a lot more than the kernel to upgrade completely to
RH6.0. It's best to get a CD from CheapBytes and upgrade
from CD.
> I downloaded Star Office, installed it, now I don't know how to launch
> it.
In an xterm: soffice &
> I have one session running Seti@Home, and another running XWindows,
> pressing the alt-function keys doesn't work. How do I switch back and
> forth quickly?
Within X pressing alt-Tab cycles through the open windows
(at least in AfterStep)
> I've got many more questions, but I'll start with these.
>
> Brian
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From: Ed Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Something is destroying my man pages!
Date: 6 Jun 1999 19:32:07 GMT
Mircea wrote:
>
> Hello-
>
> I have a very nice Slackware 3.6 system, that I've upgraded to khe 2.2.x
> kernel series, plus all the required packages upgrades, and a large
> quantity of other software. Everything considered, a nice system I'm
> very satisfied with. However, a strange process insidiously took place
> over the past couple of months, that I have no explanation for: I'm
> loosing man pages. Every once in a while, one of my man pages (_only_
> the ones in the (1) and (8) sections) dissapears, and becomes replaced
> with a file with the same name, but only 20 bytes in size, and nothing
> inside. So far it happened to insmod(1), man(1), rmmod(1), dmesg(8),
> mount(8), pnpdump(8), and last night, to mke2fs(8). I remember reading
> the mke2fs man page a couple of weeks ago, but when I tried to view it
> again yesterday, it was gone AWOL :(
> Nobody else than me has access to the system (unless I'm attacked by a
> cracker with a very twisted sense of humor, but I doubt it), and I
> cannot find anything to provide an explanation in the system logs.
>
> What I suspect is man itself kills its own pages, since the timestamp of
> the modified files is the same as the time I tried to access them and
> found they're corrupted. However I tried to reproduce it in a
> "controlled" manner, and wasn't able to get an effect. Also, why only
> _some_ of the pages be affected, but not others, or a page that I was
> able to view before, suddenly becomes corrupt?
Are the files in /usr/man/man? being truncated?
Try going into /var/catman/* and deleting any old *.gz's
that your find. Then try man again. Maybe your man
formatting engine is in trouble.
Just a thought...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ray)
Subject: Re: HELP! How to get out when netscape 4.5 freezes?
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 19:20:35 GMT
On 6 Jun 1999 13:25:05 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In his obvious haste, Alex Lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled thusly:
>: Hi,
>: I'm using SuSE 6.0, netscape 4.5 came with it. Everything runs
>: fine until
>: I was browsing a web site, and suddenly all data transfer stopped and
>: netscape frozen up.
>
>I think that's a common problem with all versions of Netscape.
>(It happens on Netscape 3 on this Sun Station under Solaris as well.)
>
>Unless you're networked to another machine and can rlogin or telnet to the
>crashed machine, there's not much you can do, I don't think.
Really? I've had Netscape lock up at times but all I have to do is switch
to an xterm and do a "killall netscape" or maybe "killall -9 netscape" if
it's really bad.
--
Ray
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup.misc
Subject: Re: CRW4416 crashes my system .. a little help please
Date: 4 Jun 1999 23:08:53 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> hi there
> i had to disconnect my YAMAHA crw4416s scsi cdrw to even get Suse
> 1.6 to install, Suse is up and running fine but i would like to get
> the cdrw workng any ideas?
> everthing goes fine on boot the adaptec 2940 is there but then it
> crashes with errors like
I suspect there is a problem with the drive/adapter and or driver
combination. I have a 4416S running on a Symbios 53c875 without
any problems. If this happens with Linux only and other OSs run fine
then you should try to contact those people maintaining the
Adaptec driver.
Good luck
--
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From: Mircea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Unstable Netscape
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 15:09:30 -0400
Funny..I've had a completely opposite experience. 4.07 crashed on me
only 3 times in 4 months, whereas 4.6 crashed 3 times in the first 10
minutes, then I deleted it and went back to 4.07.
MST
Jay Daniels wrote:
>
>
> I download Comunicator 4.6 from cnet. It's crashed (or should I say
> disappeared) only once in the past week. Much better than 4.07.
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From: Onno Ebbinge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Mount CD-ROM over network and report as CD-ROM
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 21:57:34 +0200
Thats the one I need! Please think hard or call your friend...
I would be very greatfull...
Thanks in advance,
Onno.
Greg Menke wrote:
>
> I've seen a little program which does this- you get a drive mapping,
> this program creates another one which gives a view of the first as if
> it were a CD. But for the life of me I can't remember its name. A
> guy I know was using it to get around stupid copy protection stuff.
>
> Gregm
>
> > >
> > > Onno Ebbinge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > I want to mount a CD-ROM (or ISO file, or directory) that
> > > > resides on my RH Linux 6.0 server over my network and my
> > > > WIN NT 4 machine must report it as a CD-ROM.
> > > >
> > > > I've posted this question on some NT newsgroups but there
> > > > were mostly brain dead people...
> > > >
> > > > I think I need a NT 4 device driver who can pull this off
> > > > but I can't find one. If it's really necessary I can write
> > > > the driver (I have the NT 4 DDK stuff) but I prefer a download...
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From: Alex Lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: A MUST read article for Linux fans and wannabes.
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 12:58:19 -0700
A must read article for Linux fan.
http://linuxtoday.com/stories/6521.html
Alex Lam.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lewis)
Subject: How do I modify groups for menus in AnotherLevel(fvwm95)?
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 21:08:28 GMT
Folks:
I have recently installed RedHad v5.2 on a machine, and have
been trying to figure out how to modify the menu structure in X
Windows.
To the best of my understanding, all the available window
managers included in RH5.2 share some common configuration files for
the menu structure.
I have figured out this much:
1. To add or delete a program to an EXISTING group, simply create or
delete a file in the /etc/X11/wmconfig directory, and make it look
similar to the other files in the wmconfig directory.
2. To modify the very top level of the menu, I have dicovered that
one needs to edit /etc/X11/AnotherLevel/fvwm2rc.menus.m4.
My question is this:
In some documentation, I have seen that to place the files in
the groups that you want. there is a line in there to specify the
group, i.e. (this example taken from RedHat's site)
xwp name "Word Perfect 7.0"
xwp description "Corel Word Perfect"
xwp group WordProcessors
xwp exec "/opt/wp70/wpbin/xwp &"
but my problem is (using the example abobe), if there is not a group
call WordProcessors, the menu entry gets "promoted" to the top level
(this is when I run wmconfig, the program).
QUESTION:
How do I add or delete groups in AnotherLevel? Is there a decent
place to read documentation? I have read in quite a few places, some
telling me to modify my .xinitrc. I don't even have a .xinitrc!
I am considering going to KDE window manager, as I have read that it
is a little more friendly to modifying the menus.
Thanks in advance for your help,
The Lewis'
===================================================
The Lewis's
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.sci.seti,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Linux (RH 6.0) & Seti error ?
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 19:56:03 GMT
Hello,
I have setiathome running on a new server install I completed Friday
night (runs great). After getting past adding ./ to my command to start
setiathome (./setiathome from /usr/share/seti) I noticed an odd message
when the work unit was complete. The ppp0 interface was not up or
connected so the display reported that it would try "...connecting in an
hour". I started my ppp0 connection ala usernet, closed the xterm
setiathome was using, opened another xterm and ran ./setiathome -email.
The connect to server message appeared (contacted the server) and the
next message appeared (that I'm curious about):
found data file: no found result header file: no
receiving... <appeared like normal from here>
Can anyone assist in diagnosing what looks to a new Linux/Unix user like
me to be an error ? Of course if my seti stats rise another work unit
then I know it's not an error.
TIA,
david
--
David Morris / CNA
NetWare / IntranetWare / NT Integration Specialist
New Linux convert ;)
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From: jansens_at_ibm_dot_net (Karel Jansens)
Reply-To: jansens_at_ibm_dot_net
Subject: Re: OpenLinux
Date: 6 Jun 1999 21:21:45 GMT
On Sun, 6 Jun 1999 03:40:43, "Prasanth Kumar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You need to look in the ftp.calderasystems.com ftp server to find the
> updates.
> My impression of OpenLinux 2.2 is that is pretty looking and easy to install
> but when it fails to install, it doesn't work gracefully. Also in order to
> make
> things easier, they don't include lots of the server and development stuff
> that
> many other distributions do.
Isn't that Caldera's angle: to provide an enterprise-ready Linux, with all
the "geeky" (read: scary for managers) stuff safely tucked away?
If there are people who like that stuff, kudos to them.
Karel Jansens
jansens_at_ibm_dot_net
===============================================================
Having a kid at sixty, that's an accident.
Having a piano fallen on your head, that's just bad luck.
Agent WD40, Dick Steel
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Clive DaSilva)
Subject: Re: HELP: 2.2.* kernel boot fails after I've recompiled
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 21:12:29 GMT
Sebastien
I do a make mrproper everytime before I recompile a new kernel.
something about cleaning up older dependancies. and it works for me.
I have compiled every version of the 2.2.X kernels (running 2.2.9
right now), and i never had a problem. one other thing to consider is
that the 2.2.X kernels are pretty big so its advised to make bzImage
instead of make zImage (in your case its make bzlilo instead of make
zlilo). I use this faq extensively whenever compiling a kernel
http://jgo.local.net/LinuxGuide/linux-kernel.html
good luck, dude
Clive
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Hello here,
>
>I've been trying to recompile and re-install the 2.2.*
>versions of the kernel 3 times, but have encountered
>the same & following problem every time:
>The compilation completed properly, but when I re-booted
>my PC I got a funny behaviour. I got the following lines
>at prompt when trying to boot:
>> LILO boot: linux
>> Loading linux .........
>> Uncompressing Linux... Ok, booting the kernel.
>
>and then it got stuck here and no more progressed (I
>even tried once to leave it here for hours to see whether
>it would go on, slowly, but it didn't: it's completely
>interrupted). Moreover, nothing no more responds, I have
>no more keyboard (a Ctrl-Alt-Delete to restart my PC
>doesn't repond), and I must switch off my PC. To recover,
>I boot again with my old 2.0.35 diskette.
>
>I have Red Hat 5.2, on a PC with an AMD 350Mhz, and here
>are the commands thru which I carry out my compilations:
>1- make xconfig
>2- make dep
>3- make clean
>4- make zlilo
>5- cd /boot
>6- mv ../vmlinuz vmlinuz-2.2.8
>7- (modification of the /etc/lilo.conf)
>8- lilo
>And this worked without any problem as long as I did it with
>the 2.0.35 version. I can't seem to be able to complete this
>upgrade to the 2.2.8 version !
>
>Could anyone help me, please ?? What do I miss ? Do I do
>anything wrong ??
>
>Thanks a lot !!
>
>Seb
>
>
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Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Gerald Willmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A few questions
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 13:57:32 -0700
On Sun, 6 Jun 1999, Brian wrote:
> I've got RH5.2 and I want to upgrade to 6.0. I've downloaded the kernel,
> but I don't know what to do from there.
>
> I downloaded Star Office, installed it, now I don't know how to launch
> it.
may I (who happily uses a somewhat modified RH4 system) ask why you want
to upgrade? Unless there is a specific reason (don't really see what that
could be) I would get used to linux for a while, learn things such as how
to find and execute executables, and leave the obsession with the latest
upgrades to others.
good luck, Gerald
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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeremiah)
Subject: Re: HELP! How to get out when netscape 4.5 freezes?
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 21:21:18 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ray) spake thusly:
>> What should I do if this happen again?
>
> Just to gather some data, try hitting <CapsLock> or <NumLock> and see if the
> LEDs on your keyboard respond, if not then chances are very good that you
> have a hardware problem.
Perhaps, but this happened to me once... Netscape froze when
my girlfriend went to http://www.beaniesdownunder.com/. It started by
acting weird: the mouse buttons wouldn't do what they were supposed to.
After maybe 30 seconds, it froze out all mouse clicks and eventually
froze out the keyboard. I could still move the pointer on the screen with
the mouse, but none of the buttons would work. <CapsLock> and <NumLock>
didn't change the LEDs on the keyboard.
I've never had any serious problems with my hardware (specs below)
before or after this incident.
> The bottom line is that while Netscape is not as stable is it should be, it
> should NEVER lock up Linux and I've never seen it even take out X. If it
> does then there is something VERY wrong.
In my case, it didn't lock up Linux, but it sure did a number
on X. My specs:
XFree86 3.3.3.1
STB Velocity 4400 (OEM -- Riva TNT chipset)
stock RedHat 5.2 kernel (2.0.36)
GNOME (core: 1.0.4-13rh, libs: 1.0.8-2rh)
Enlightenment 0.15.5-25
My guess was that it was a problem with Java (since that page
uses Java buttons) and E/GNOME... My X server has been pretty solid (one
other crash in about six months of usage -- again caused by Netscape).
Brian
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