Linux-Misc Digest #572, Volume #20               Thu, 10 Jun 99 10:13:22 EDT

Contents:
  Re: CGI-bin returns source not HTTP document? ("Jeremy L. Buchmann")
  Re: Lexmark 5700 ("Dennis J. Sylvester")
  Re: Editing a 4.7Mb file (VI limit 2Mb) (Brad Knowles)
  Re: SuSE 6.1 anyone? ("Dennis J. Sylvester")
  Environmental Variables in a C Shell Script (Paul Wickham)
  strange telnet problem (Charles Wilkins)
  Re: Mosaic: is it dead? (Juergen Heinzl)
  Re: Disk Druid not improving, and why... ("John Allen")
  Re: Telnet problem (Mike B)
  Re: procmail question ("DidiDo")
  Re: Moving from OS/2 to Linux (Ted Sikora)
  Re: dynamic ip address (Mick Costa)
  Re: What tools are there for syslog analysis? (Brad Knowles)
  Re: Telnet problem ("Dardo D. Kleiner")
  Mounting CDROM ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Commercially speaking....? (Jamie)
  Re: Using isapnp to disable plug and play... (Mircea)

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From: "Jeremy L. Buchmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CGI-bin returns source not HTTP document?
Date: 10 Jun 1999 12:14:39 GMT

Jon Skeet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

:> Another annoying beginner. I am trying to teach myself more about CGI
:> scripting for server side forms. Since my commercial ISP doesn't allow
:> access to a cgi-bin dir, I am trying to use the Apache server that came
:> with my RH LINUX. So far all I get back are the unprocessed source
:> documents. Anybody out there have the magical KNOW that will allow me to
:> process server side forms in/on the privacy of my own box?

: You need to check at least three things:

: 1) The scripts you're trying to run have execute permission for the 
: appropriate user (whichever user apache is running as)

Usually this is done by 'chmod a+x scriptname' which gives everyone
execute permissions.   

: 2) They scripts have appropriate extensions, such as .cgi or .pl

I've never found this to be necessary, myself.  None of my scripts (that
all work fine) have extensions...I just call them 'getCount' or something
like that...but extensions do make directory listings easier to read.
This works fine in the latest apache and the web server that comes with
Digital UNIX.


: 3) The Apache config scripts (access.conf and srm.conf are the 
: appropriate ones, I think) are set up to allow cgi access from the 
: appropriate directory and the handlers are present (eg the line
: AddHandler cgi-script .cgi is present and uncommented in srm.conf)

: The .conf files are fairly readable - have a play around with them, 
: restarting the server each time you change them, and best of luck!

I don't know what version came with RH, but the newest version I grabbed
off the net had all of it's config stuff in httpd.conf...kinda nice since
messing with three config files (the old way) really sucked.  Anyway, what
you're looking for is something like this: 

# This may also be "None", "All", or any combination of "Indexes",
# "Includes", "FollowSymLinks", "ExecCGI", or "MultiViews".
# 
# Note that "MultiViews" must be named *explicitly* --- "Options All"
# doesn't give it to you.  
#
    Options Indexes FollowSymLinks ExecCGI
                                   ^^^^^^^
That's the keyword.  There's also plenty more config stuff in there you
need to read/change, but like the previous poster said, it's fairly easy
to follow. 

One last note: CGI itself is pretty easy...it's the scripting languages
that'll throw you.  Most of the info on the web makes it sounds really
hard.

===================================================================
Jeremy Buchmann       "Those who trade freedom for safety deserve
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   neither freedom nor safety." -- Ben Franklin
===================================================================

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From: "Dennis J. Sylvester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Lexmark 5700
Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 17:40:04 -0700

Frank Kraft wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> has anyone an idea which driver (or compatible) do I need for
> lexmark 5700.
> 
> regards Frank Kraft
Try the APSfilter packages I believe there are drivers for the Lexmark's
www.metalab.unc.edu
Dennis

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brad Knowles)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux,linux.help
Subject: Re: Editing a 4.7Mb file (VI limit 2Mb)
Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 13:54:39 +0200

In article
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Daniel W. Burke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Interesting.. I've editing 87meg files with vi, without any problems (128megs
> of memory helps too, *grin*)

    Which version of vi do you have installed?  Which distribution of
Linux are you using?


    Elvis (the default vi-clone installed by the Slackware distributions I
have run across) has a built-in limit of 2MB -- I know, because I ran into
this problem myself (trying to edit a 55MB POP3 mailbox file that had
become horribly munged), and I had to go get and install vim in order to
be able to make things work.

-- 
Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.shub-internet.org/brad/>
    <http://wwwkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE38CCEF1>

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From: "Dennis J. Sylvester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SuSE 6.1 anyone?
Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 17:24:40 -0700

Dan Star wrote:
> 
> Can't SUSE be downloaded over the NET?  I believe that this is a
> requirement of the GPL.
> 
> --Dan
> 
> "Anthony J. Gabrielson" wrote:
> >
> > You can always get one of those $1.89 specials when they come out if you
> > don't want to either spend $35 or download the portions you need.
> >
> > Anthony
> >
> > On Mon, 17 May 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > > Is there anyone willing to lend me their SuSE CDs to make a copy? I
> > > purchased version 5.3, but I would like to upgrade. Of course I will pay
> > > shipping. I live in Pennsylvania.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > bf
> > >
> > >
> > > --== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==--
> > > ---Share what you know. Learn what you don't.---
> > >
> > >
This is not a requirement of the GPL...only that you have access to the
source which is provided on the cdrom set from SuSE.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Wickham)
Subject: Environmental Variables in a C Shell Script
Date: 9 Jun 1999 11:54:43 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi!

This should be straight forward, but I'm banging my head against a brick wall!
I want to be able to modify the an environment variable within an executable
script in Cshell and keep the change when I exit the script. 

If I write a script such as:

#!/bin/csh -f
setenv SOMEVARIABLE bananas

The variable SOMEVARIABLE does not persist outside the script. What do I
need to do to make it persistant?

Any help will be appreciated.

Cheers

Paul Wickham
Gardline Surveys Ltd





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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charles Wilkins)
Crossposted-To: alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.help,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: strange telnet problem
Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 23:37:01 GMT

Sometimes (half the time) when I use vi over telnet (from win95 to
linux), I can't use my arrow keys to move around in the editor. Other
times I can. 

My telnet client and redhat configurations remain the same, yet
sometimes the arrows work and other times they dont.

In addition, when the arrows arent working, (when I use j to scroll
down), the screen buffer doesnt refresh, so what I get is the bottom
line of text changes and thats it.

Any ideas anybody?


Cheers,

Charles Wilkins  CNE / MCP / A+
Network Design Consultant
Practical Computer Solutions
http://www.pcscs.com
609-321-1530
609-321-0840 - fax
--


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Subject: Re: Mosaic: is it dead?
Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 22:37:16 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Marc Mutz wrote:
>Neil Zanella wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Just out of curiosity, is Mosaic still around?
Yes.

>> How does it compare to Netscape?
>> 
>Isn't Mosaic == Netscape (more or less)? I remember reading somewhere
>that Netscape bought it from NCSA and continued development.
No, much smaller though all versions yet were not very stable. Right
now I am downloading 3.4.0 ... 
ftp://sig.enst.fr/pub/multicast/mMosaic/
...

Cheers,
Juergen

-- 
\ Real name     : J�rgen Heinzl                 \       no flames      /
 \ EMail Private : [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ send money instead /

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From: "John Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Disk Druid not improving, and why...
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 12:57:38 +0100


Mike wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>kind of late to the thread but my prob with Disk Druid  has been it's
>seeming inability to format swap space unless that space has already
>been formatted with another OS. There  has been several times that
>I've had installs crash after copying just about enough files to fit
>into my swap. I eventually figured out that if I format that partition

Sorry, fit files into your swap; I thought the swap partition was for the
swapper,
you don't put any files in it, this ain't Solaris you know.

>with NT and then delete it and recreate it in Disk Druid it formats it
>ok and the install proceeds without a hitch.
>go figure
>mike
>
>




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike B)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,alt.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Telnet problem
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 12:25:02 GMT

On Thu, 10 Jun 1999 02:18:44 +0200, Mart van Santen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.linux,alt.os.linux

I'm having a similar problem with mine.  When I telnet from another
host it connects, then immediately it says "connection refused"
without getting a login prompt.  Any ideas?


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From: "DidiDo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: nl.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: procmail question
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 13:31:50 +0200


Sitaram Chamarty wrote in message ...

>If you can "man mimencode" and find out what options will do what
>you want, you can have procmail pipe the message to it and do its
>job.
>
>For me: I dont know if its a bad mimencode or what, but I have
>never managed to get mimencode to do that.  I use "munpack" an

>older program that still works fine.

Same for me, can't get mimencode to do that.





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From: Ted Sikora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Moving from OS/2 to Linux
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 00:17:17 GMT

Richard Henderson wrote:
> 
> Long time OS/2 user seeking advice as to which Linux to move to.  Want
> to network with Win95/98 systems.   Please don't just say move to RedHat
> or Caldera or etc. because it is better.  Tell me what I loose or gain
> from each system.  Or just give me some good URLs and I can do the
> research.  I'm look for the non commercial advice.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Richard

I am a longtime OS/2 and Linux/FreeBSD user. All the distributions will
work fine provided Samba is installed(you need this to connect Warp)on a
network and/or install HPFS support to see the OS/2 partitions. The
trick is setting up bootmanager properly. If you want the specifics just
email me. Woven Goods for Linux is an excellent resource for the
different distributions. My site below is a mirror. Linux.com/org they
all have plenty of info too. Personally I think Slackware would be best
for you. The install is the absolute best installs completely in 20
minutes. You also learn Linux the correct way too. SuSE is another that
I recommend. Most
of the others require some Unix or advanced Linux experience and
many of the programs are beta quality so you can expect some problems.
Why ask for problems. TurboLinux from Pacific High Tech
might be the one to watch. IBM just struck a deal with them and their
Linux software(DB2 for now) will be distributed exclusively with that
distribution in the near future.
  
--
Ted Sikora
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://tsikora.tiac.net

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From: Mick Costa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: dynamic ip address
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:00:15 -0400

I *assume* that this is basically the same as a cable modem?  No
dial-up, just connect and go, right?  If so, you will need to get dhcp
installed.  You may already have it lurking around your system or on
your install disks. Otherwise you'll have to ferret it out on the
Internet.  Also, if you are only talking about 1 machine, you'll
probably only need the client, which I believe if often called dhcpcd.

I also think that the version of dhcpcd that you use will depend on
whether you are libc5 or glibc.  Just read the readmes and you should be
OK.  The install is very easy.  If you want to use it all the time,
you'll have to initialize it in your startup (again, this is described
in the notes).

Sorry I can give you more info since all my Linux stuff is elsewhere.




georg haber wrote:
> 
> I've just bought access to telenet. It's a service that works via cable.
> It's plugged in my networkadapter (eth0).
> 
> But I have to configure linux to take a dynamic IP adress on eth0 before I
> can use it.
> 
> How can I set this up?
>

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brad Knowles)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: What tools are there for syslog analysis?
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 15:27:13 +0200

In article <375ecae8.12955390@news>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> On Tue, 01 Jun 1999 10:46:28 +0100, Phil Berry wrote:
> 
> > Hi all,
> > I have been looking through my syslog files, using the standard
> > Unix analysis tools (grep, sed, awk, etc). Whilst these let me
> > pull out much information quite quickly the though occured to
> > me are there any general syslog analysis tools out there that
> > you can run to provide these sorts of statistics? HTML-output
> > would also be nice, but of course that is secondary :).
> > [ ... ]
> 
> You might want to have a look at logcheck, Works Fine For Me[tm]:
> 
>    http://www.psionic.com/abacus/logcheck/

    On a busy machine (with hundreds of thousands of log entries),
logcheck will *bury* you, since it just greps through the logs looking for
various things and then sends all that stuff to you.

    You need tools to look at the log entry part (ignoring the pid, if
any) and effectively do things like a "sort | uniq -c | sort -nr" on the
log entries, noting both the first and last time the particular log entry
was seen.


    I wrote a Perl script (called syslog-count) that does this sort of
thing.  I'm still trying to get it to be able to tie the hash table it
builds to a dbm database, so that you don't waste quite so much RAM,
although the trade-off would be to increase the amount of disk I/O.

    Nevertheless, the in-RAM hash version works fine for me.  If you would
like to make modifications to syslog-count, I would appreciate it if you
would contribute them back to me.


    If you modify logcheck to put a pipe to this program after the greps
but before the I/O redirection onto temporary files, this should even
properly deal with "last line repeated X times", etc....


    The log entries as seen will go from looking like this:

May  6 18:22:25 host syslogd 1.3-3: restart.
May  6 18:22:26 host kernel: klogd 1.3-3, log source = /proc/kmsg started.
May  6 18:22:27 host kernel: No module symbols loaded.
May  6 18:22:27 host kernel: Swansea University Computer Society NET3.035
for Linux 2.0 
May  6 18:22:27 host kernel: NET3: Unix domain sockets 0.13 for Linux NET3.035. 
May  6 18:22:27 host kernel: VFS: Diskquotas version dquot_5.6.0 initialized^M 
May  6 18:22:27 host kernel: Serial driver version 4.13 with no serial
options enabled 

    To looking like this:

  6505  1999/05/17 18:25:27  1999/06/10 14:16:31  host wonkyftpd: FTP
session closed.
   536  1999/05/18 10:52:49  1999/06/10 13:58:27  host wonkyftpd: FTP no
transfer timeout, disconnected.
   291  1999/06/04 20:19:45  1999/06/04 22:47:53  host wonkyftpd:
ANONYMOUS FTP login as 'anonymous' from flex05.tpu.ru [195.208.172.246] to
10.0.0.1:21
   232  1999/05/28 21:04:55  1999/06/10 00:30:20  host wonkyftpd:
ANONYMOUS FTP login as 'anonymous' from otherhost.domain.example
[10.0.0.2] to 10.0.0.1:21
   209  1999/05/27 14:48:19  1999/06/10 13:16:51  host wonkyftpd: Data
transfer stall timeout: 300 seconds
   149  1999/06/08 02:14:52  1999/06/09 14:47:48  host wonkyftpd: failed
login, can't find user 'username1234'
   121  1999/06/02 13:59:12  1999/06/07 13:31:40  host wonkyftpd:
ANONYMOUS FTP login as 'anonymous' from grumpy-e3.uunet.be [194.7.15.89]
to 10.0.0.1:21
   105  1999/05/28 10:34:19  1999/06/03 10:08:50  host wonkyftpd:
ANONYMOUS FTP login as 'anonymous' from 18-118.CampusNet.ucl.ac.be
[130.104.18.118] to 10.0.0.1:21


    Enjoy!

        -Brad

#!/usr/local/bin/perl -T
#
# syslog-count  Effectively do a `sort | uniq -c | sort -nr` on lines
#               in the format of a syslog file, taking into account the
#               potential pid information that is logged and the first
#               and last times we see this exact line logged.
#
#               Note: This tool is designed to help further reduce the
#               amount of noise you see if you're running something like
#               logcheck.  Of course, since this destroys information,
#               you want to keep the original log files around until
#               you've had a chance to take the information reduced by
#               this program and returned by logcheck and ensure that
#               everything is as you expect.
#
#=====================================================================
#
#               Author: Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
#                 Date: Thu May 27 11:57:30 CEST 1999
#
#=====================================================================
#
# Copyright 1999 by Belgacom Skynet SA/NV, all rights reserved.
#
# Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a
# copy of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"),
# to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation
# the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense,
# and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the
# Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions:
#
# The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included
# in all copies or substantial portions of the Software.
#
# THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR
# IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY,
# FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT. IN NO EVENT SHALL
# THE OPEN GROUP BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY,
# WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT
# OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN
# THE SOFTWARE.
#
# Except as contained in this notice, the name of Belgacom Skynet SA/NV
# shall not be used in advertising or otherwise to promote the sale, use
# or other dealings in this Software without prior written authorization
# from Belgacom Skynet SA/NV.
#
#=====================================================================

require HTTP::Date;
require Getopt::Std;

use HTTP::Date;
use Getopt::Std;

$prog = $0;

$prog =~ s|^.*/||;

$Usage = "Usage: $prog [-dh]\n\nWhere:\n\t-h\tPrint this help\n\t-d\tUse
dbm file for temporary storage instead of in-memory hash\n";

getopts('dh');

if ($opt_h)
{
    print $Usage;
    exit;
}

if ($opt_d)
{
    use DB_File;
    $dbmfile = "/var/tmp/$prog.$$";
    dbmopen(%LogLine, $dbmfile, 0600) || die "Can't open dbm file $dbmfile.";
}

while ($Line = <>)
{
    next unless ($Line =~ /^(... .. \d\d:\d\d:\d\d) (\w+
\w+)\[?\d*\]?(.*)\s$/o);
    $LogTime = str2time($1);
    $LogEntry = $2 . $3;
    if ($LogEntry =~ /last message repeated (\d+) times/io)
    {
        $Count = $1;
        if ($OldEntry ne "")
        {
            $LogLine{$OldEntry}{count} += $Count;
            if ((!exists $LogLine{$OldEntry}{begin}) ||
($LogLine{$OldEntry}{begin} > $LogTime))
            {
                $LogLine{$OldEntry}{begin} = $LogTime;
            }
            if ((!exists $LogLine{$OldEntry}{end}) ||
($LogLine{$OldEntry}{end} < $LogTime))
            {
                $LogLine{$OldEntry}{end} = $LogTime;
            }
        }
    }
    else
    {
        $LogLine{$LogEntry}{entry}=$LogEntry;
        $LogLine{$LogEntry}{count}++;
        if ((!exists $LogLine{$LogEntry}{begin}) ||
($LogLine{$LogEntry}{begin} > $LogTime))
        {
            $LogLine{$LogEntry}{begin} = $LogTime;
        }
        if ((!exists $LogLine{$LogEntry}{end}) ||
($LogLine{$LogEntry}{end} < $LogTime))
        {
            $LogLine{$LogEntry}{end} = $LogTime;
        }
        $OldEntry = $LogEntry;
    }
}

foreach $i (sort Complex keys %LogLine)
{
    @Start = localtime($LogLine{$i}{begin});
    @Stop  = localtime($LogLine{$i}{end});
    $Begin = sprintf "%04d/%02d/%02d %02d:%02d:%02d", $Start[5]+1900,
$Start[4]+1, $Start[3], $Start[2], $Start[1], $Start[0];
    $End   = sprintf "%04d/%02d/%02d %02d:%02d:%02d", $Stop[5]+1900,
$Stop[4]+1, $Stop[3], $Stop[2], $Stop[1], $Stop[0];
    write;
}

if ($opt_d)
{
    dbmclose %LogLine;
    $numfiles = unlink $dbmfile;
        printf STDERR "Deleted %d files.\n", $numfiles;
}

format STDOUT =
@>>>>>  @<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<  @<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<  @*
$LogLine{$i}{count}, $Begin, $End, $LogLine{$i}{entry}
. 

sub Complex
{
    $LogLine{$b}{count} <=> $LogLine{$a}{count}
        ||
    $LogLine{$a}{begin} <=> $LogLine{$b}{begin}
        ||
    $LogLine{$a}{end}   <=> $LogLine{$b}{end}
        ||
    $LogLine{$a}{entry} cmp $LogLine{$b}{entry}
}

-- 
Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.shub-internet.org/brad/>
    <http://wwwkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE38CCEF1>

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From: "Dardo D. Kleiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Telnet problem
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:03:44 -0400

Mart van Santen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I'm running RedHat 6.0 at my server and all is working fine..
> till this morning, I don't know what I did, but telnetd isn't
> working anymore...
> If I connet to my server I get an error message with
> "All network ports in use" but there isn't anyone in use.
> With rlogin I get the error "Out of ptys"
>
> Does anybody knows what wrong (maybe a lockfile I
> can't find??)
> All other services are working okay (www, ftp, hotline..)
>
> Thanks in advance
>
Did you recently update your dev RPM?  After I updated my RH5.2 with the
dev-2.7.7-1.rpm, I got that exact error "All network ports in use", until I
rebooted...Not sure if RH6.0's kernel comes compiled with UNIX98 pty
support, the kernel needs to have the correct option set before you can use
UNIX98 pty's.  Look for /dev/pts, that should indicate an updated dev...

I'm still struggling with the whole tty/pty/etc stuff myself, I hope this
offers some clues.

- Dardo








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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Mounting CDROM
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 12:14:14 GMT

Whenever i try to mount my cdrom in redhat 5.1, a message is displayed
that says "fs iso9660 not supported by kernel".  This cdrom worked when
i installed linux.  Any suggestions about this would be helpful.


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.

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From: Jamie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Commercially speaking....?
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 14:22:40 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

John Garrison wrote:

> What confuses me more is why, in thier attempt to hide DOS, did MS give Windows95
> 
> long filename support but not DOS 7.  I can only assume it would be just as
> easy/easier
> to do this at a lower level than a higher one. And it would make the product much
> easier
> to use. Nothing annoys me more than them stupid "~1" 's.

Childish games 8-) ...

Fire up Win95 to a DOS prompt and type < copy con "this is a test file"
> (note use of quotes to preserve long file name.

Type - < any load of rubbish > and press < Return >

Press the Ctrl + Z keys at the same time and then press < Return >

Now type < type "this is a test file" and you will see that DOS 7 has
just saved your file with a long file name.  Now for the crunch ...  try
typing < dir > and pressing < Return > and you will see that although it
saved it, it did not know how to do it correctly and you now have a file
with an illegal filename (i.e. a space in the filename).  In other words
they didn't finish DOS 7.  

What a wonderful OS 8-)

-- 
_____________________________________________________________________
  ____                                     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   /        All comments expressed should be assumed to be my opinion
\_/ amie    only and you should get your own opinion.

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From: Mircea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Using isapnp to disable plug and play...
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:59:29 -0400

You don't use isapnp to _disable_ PnP, but to setup cards that have it
on. To turn it off, you must use card-specific utilities. For 3c509, you
can download a DOS-based utility from 3Com's web site, or a Linux
utility from http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/diag

MST

Mike Kerr wrote:
> 
> I'm planning to use isapnp to disable the plug and play features on my
> 3Com 3c509b NIC card. I don't really know much about setting up the
> isapnp.conf file. Is anyone using a similar setup with their NIC card?
> Anyone know what the settings should be?
> Thanks!
> Mike

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