Linux-Misc Digest #572, Volume #24 Tue, 23 May 00 17:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: how to enter a bug report against linux? ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Windows by Day, Linux by Night ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation ("ccghst")
Re: Supermicro PIIIDME with Red Hat 6.2 SMP (Kirk Thoning)
Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux ("Anthony W. Youngman")
Re: Novacom MIX (jose enrique zamorano)
Re: Novacom MIX (jose enrique zamorano)
Highlander PIDs ("Henrique Pantarotto")
What does "DRIVE NOT RESPONDING" mean? (Bev)
Verion of linux? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation ("Erik Funkenbusch")
capturing desktop before exiting X? (Peter Bismuti)
Re: getting started with Apache? (Brian Moore)
Re: login messages (Steve)
Re: Verion of linux? (Erik Taraldsen)
Re: getting started with Apache? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Highlander PIDs (brian moore)
Re: kernel not using memory (Bob Hauck)
Installing a new distro while leaving /home intact (Jason Bowen)
Re: D-link 220 in RedHat 6.2 (Tim Moore)
pointing elm at pop3 server (Peter Bismuti)
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: how to enter a bug report against linux?
Date: 23 May 2000 19:10:12 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc s@- wrote:
: In article <8gdp99$k4a$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Peter says...
:>: a person is a bug tracking system? wow! so if this person gets sick,
:>: the bug tracking system goes down?
:>Yep. Just like if your bugtracking server develops a virus.
:
: I thought linux sw can not get any viruses? but if the bugtracking server
: got a viruse, you can get a backup. If the above person got
Oh yeah? Do YOU know how to set up a bugtracking system? It isn't
exactly a one hour job, or a one day job, ...
: sick, how do you make a backup of him? And what if he get kidnapped?
Well, if alan went out of circulation for more than a couple of months,
I'm sure someone would start collecting bug reports. But collecting
them's not the problem; just archive the kernel list (it is!) if you
want to collect them. They're just little itty bits of syntactic
scrawly symbols unless you get them to someone who understands them.
And that's Alan and the kernel developers and maintainers. Just mail
them.
: and what if he fell and hit his head and lost his memory? and what
Big deal. Someone else would step up. But it's an accounting job.
Nothing else.
: if you need to find something about a bug but Allen happened to be
: busy in the bathroom at the time, do we wait for him to finish
: to find out about a bug? what if he on a vacation?
You wait for him to come out, and you ask (nicely). He takes his laptop
on vacation .. don't even know if he has proper vacations. Those are
the province of 9-5 people.
: tell me right now, how many priority one bugs are there against
: linux kernel 2.2, and how many are against kernel 2.3.99? Where
Oooh tons. And 2.3.99? It doesn't work yet. Not in any satisfactory
sense. Mind you, it works for most people in the sense they understand.
: can I go now on-line and look at the status of these bugs?
Try the kernel list. I get a few hundred messages every day from it.
And then you can go look at the sublists. And if you want to see
an actual buglist on the www, go to alans buglist pages.
: NOt only a bug-tracking system is critical for any modern software
: engineering group, it will also help others volunteer work and time for
Nonsense. All the volunteers are already in and working :-).
: linux. One can look at the list of bugs and decide to go fix some, it
: will actually be good for linux.
Have you actually considered that bugtrack systems are there to remedy
a communications gap that DOESN'T EXIST in linux. If your bug hasn't
been fixed by the maintainer you communicated it to last, just "bug"
him about it. He'll reply.
: May be you guys who think a bug tracking system is not needed for
: linux kernel, need to take a course in software engineering one
: day, but from the types of replies I read, I doubt that one course will
: make any difference.
Perhaps you'd like to read my books and articles on the subject :-).
Peter
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Subject: Re: Windows by Day, Linux by Night
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 19:17:00 GMT
Gerald Willmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Tue, 23 May 2000, Simone Paddock wrote:
>
> > Nope, we certainly don't intend to spam. Au contraire, the article in
> > itself is almost a must-read for anybody working with Linux - and
> > the free book supprts exactly what the article is talking about.
>
> hardly any spammers intend to spam - they all do their victims great
> favors by alerting them to whathaveyounot. You are no exception.
Especially when you consider how the post was improperly cross-posted.
Instead of putting all the newsgroups on one line, they actually had their
newsagent send it to many groups, singularly, defeating the anti-crossposting
schemes of those who read usenet. Shame on them.
--
Da Katt
[This space for rent]
See my work at http://www.geocities.com/sierra_tigris
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From: "ccghst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 14:59:49 -0400
Apple Advertising wrote in message
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>You forgot to figure in that in order to program in Windows a DECENT (read
>reasonably stable, reasonable performance, reasonable maintainability,
etc.)
>program, you have to first BUY the SDK
False; free download from
ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/developr/PlatformSDK/April2000/psdk-x86.exe
> and API documentation
Also free, via the web:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.htm
>(free documentation
>included with Linux - other flavors of *nix vary); and don't forget you
also
>have to BUY the compiler.
There you're right. The SDK is free, the compiler isn't.
>BTW - Visual Basic to me is not the best of
>programming examples since it does NOTHING to teach the new programmer
proper
>coding techniques, let alone teach STANDARDS in programming.
And GCC (or any C compiler) does? News to me.
>I may be a little off here, but I still have not been able to find
documentation
>on Windows interfacing without having to purchase the books. And if someone
>suggests that the documentation is free - how much did it cost you to go
through
>Windows certification training before you have access to this free
>documentation?
$0. Nothing, Nada, Zip, Zilch.
>BTW - same programming software requires a per-machine license in order to
>LEGALLY be used
True. Accuracy index 40%
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From: Kirk Thoning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Supermicro PIIIDME with Red Hat 6.2 SMP
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 12:29:03 -0600
I just installed RedHat 6.2 on a PIIIDME with dual PIII
800MHz cpus and it seems to be working fine.
kirk
Dimitri Komatitsch wrote:
>
> Hi everybody,
>
> I'm considering buying a bunch of new Supermicro PIIIDME
> (or PIIIDM3) motherboards, with dual Pentium-III 750 MHz.
> I plan to run Red Hat 6.2 SMP , does anyone know if these
> new boards are already fully supported and if 6.2 SMP runs
> fine on them? I hope this is not a stupid question,
> I checked the Supermicro web site, looking for some info
> about Linux compatibility, but did not find anything.
>
> thanks
> dimitri
>
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From: "Anthony W. Youngman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 19:10:12 +0100
Reply-To: "Anthony W. Youngman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
>"Anthony W. Youngman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> I am led to believe (in other words I may well be wrong...) that rpms
>> basically have a required/not-required status. If the system MAY require
>> a package, then either it is flagged as required and the system tries to
>> make you install it, or it's not flagged and gets ignored.
>
>Well, technically, some is either required or it isn't. If you're
>right (I have no idea), the problem seems to be more on the package
>maintainer's end, rather than the rpm developer's end.
>
But you're ignoring the example packages I (deliberately) chose ...
If I have an ISDN card, then I *NEED* ISDN4LINUX, if I don't then it's a
waste of space. Same with a sound card and OSS.
If that hardware is present, then those packages are REQUIRED. If the
hardware isn't there then those packages are a waste of space (and on
the system I was complaining about, it was more than 1% of the available
disk space for ISDN4LINUX alone - that's space I can't spare).
As somebody else pointed out, rpms can't have conditional dependency.
Either it's flagged as "required" and I scream blue murder because the
basic install on my mum's pc crashes with a "disk full", or it's flagged
as "not required" and I scream blue murder because it doesn't install on
the office server and I need it.
Don't blame the package maintainer if rpm is too brain-dead to cope with
variations in STANDARD hardware.
--
Anthony W. Youngman - wol at thewolery dot demon dot co dot uk
Witches are curious by definition and inquisitive by nature. She moved in. "Let
me through. I'm a nosey person.", she said, employing both elbows.
Maskerade : (c) 1995 Terry Pratchett
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From: jose enrique zamorano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Novacom MIX
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,es.comp.os.linux.misc,es.comp.os.linux.redes
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 19:58:32 GMT
El Novacom Mix se puede utilizar con linux (bastante bien por cierto),=20
pero necesitas=20
un nuevo firmware que ha desarrollado la empresa fabricante del=20
telefono (Interisa).
Para obtenerlo envia un correo a antonio cervantes . Yo lo he=20
instalado hace unos dias y va fenomeno.
Suerte
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mensaje original <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
El 5/23/00, 10:29:32 AM, "Javier Intriago" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>=20
escribi=F3 sobre el tema Novacom MIX:
> Alguien ha usado en Linux con =E9xito el tel=E9fono Novacom MIX para=20
conectarse
> a Internet. Est=E1 supuesto a ser como un modem externo conectado a un=
=20
puerto
> serial, no?
> Si no se pudiera, VMware provee una buena comunicaci=F3n con los puert=
os
> seriales?
> Agradecer=EDa mucho si alguien me pudiera dar algunas indicaciones.
> j.
> Has somebody used succesfully the phone Novacom MIX to connect to=20
Internet.
> It is supposed to be used like an external modem connected to a serial=
=20
port,
> isn't it?
> If it is not possible, VMware offers good communication with the=20
serials
> ports?
> I will thank very much if somebody could give me indications.
> j.
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From: jose enrique zamorano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Novacom MIX
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,es.comp.os.linux.misc,es.comp.os.linux.redes
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 20:00:57 GMT
Perdon, la direcci=F3n de Antonio Cervantes es=20
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> El Novacom Mix se puede utilizar con linux (bastante bien por cierto),=
> pero necesitas
> un nuevo firmware que ha desarrollado la empresa fabricante del
> telefono (Interisa).
> Para obtenerlo envia un correo a antonio cervantes . Yo lo he
> instalado hace unos dias y va fenomeno.
> Suerte
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mensaje original <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
> El 5/23/00, 10:29:32 AM, "Javier Intriago" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> escribi=F3 sobre el tema Novacom MIX:
> > Alguien ha usado en Linux con =E9xito el tel=E9fono Novacom MIX para=
> conectarse
> > a Internet. Est=E1 supuesto a ser como un modem externo conectado a =
un
> puerto
> > serial, no?
> > Si no se pudiera, VMware provee una buena comunicaci=F3n con los pue=
rtos
> > seriales?
> > Agradecer=EDa mucho si alguien me pudiera dar algunas indicaciones.
> > j.
> > Has somebody used succesfully the phone Novacom MIX to connect to
> Internet.
> > It is supposed to be used like an external modem connected to a seri=
al
> port,
> > isn't it?
> > If it is not possible, VMware offers good communication with the
> serials
> > ports?
> > I will thank very much if somebody could give me indications.
> > j.
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From: "Henrique Pantarotto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Highlander PIDs
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 16:59:11 -0300
Hello friends,
I have a couple of processes in my Linux server that won't die. For
example:
popmgr 18613 0.0 0.0 2144 0 ? DW May11 0:00 [nnpopper]
popmgr 10337 0.0 0.0 2140 0 ? DW May12 0:00 [nnpopper]
popmgr 12868 0.0 0.0 2140 0 ? DW May13 0:00 [nnpopper]
popmgr 1815 0.0 0.0 2152 0 ? DW May15 0:00 [nnpopper]
popmgr 5254 0.0 0.0 2140 816 ? D May18 0:00 nnpopper
popmgr 26973 0.0 0.0 2140 812 ? D May18 0:00 nnpopper
Today is May 23rd, and PID 18613 won't die! I tried kill, kill -9 many
times, but the PID is very strong. nnpopper is a pop3 daemon, reading mail
at a NFS server (a netapp F760).
People tell me that I have to reboot the server, but I don't like doing
this.. (microsoft way of thinking)
Anybody has any clues? Should I send any contents from /proc/18613/* ?
Thanks in advance,
Henrique Pantarotto
Sao Paulo, SP - Brazil
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From: Bev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: What does "DRIVE NOT RESPONDING" mean?
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 13:09:29 -0700
Two of my friends have systems based on the FIC-SD11 motherboard and an
Athlon 750 mhz processor. Both systems have pairs of 13-gig UDMA-66
Western Digital drives. Both systems experience DRIVE NOT RESPONDING
errors on the first hard drive. On one system this causes win98's defrag
to hang. On the other system, mke2fs quit with that message while trying
to format a partition on the first drive.
The Western Digital diagnostic software (Lifeguard, win9x) gives an error
message something like "cannot open SMART driver" on the machine with the
defrag problem and then just sits there.
Any suggestions?
--
Cheers,
Bev
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Linux -- the ultimate freebie!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Verion of linux?
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 19:55:47 GMT
I installed a linux distribution of SUSE on my system, kernel version
2.0.26
Last week i wanted to upgrade my kernel, so I downloaded a new kernel,
version 2,2,15. Acording to the documentation I needed a new compiler
too, so i downloaded the latest GCC compiler and installed it.
After i compiled the new kernel without getting any error (after the
fifth time) i installed the new kernel.
I replaced the old kernel with the new kernel, so lillo would boot with
the new kernel.The new kernel is bigger too, about 670kb. The old kernel
was 570 kb.
During startup, linux still gives a line that says: building 2.0.36
modules. ??
When i use the :uname -r command it also says 2.0.36.
But i still think i'm using the new 2.2.15 kernel, because there are a
number of lines that are showing during startup, that i never seen
before, Like :there are 3 HD's in my system. Linux now shows all my hd's
,
while they are disabled in the bios.
Other than that, the system seem to run fine.
Is there another way too check my kernel version?
Did I make a mistake somewhere during the compilation of the new kernel?
Is it possible the new kernel uses the old modules (during compilation
maybe?)
Thanx
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 20:10:25 GMT
Someone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>How can I spin down my SCSI drives when they are not in use? I've
>been after that for years.
And in all those years, you never went to Google and typed
scsi linux spin down
as your search terms? Because if you did, you'd have found several references
to scsi-idle, and the 9th hit is the "homepage" for it, appropriately titled
"Starting and Stopping SCSI drives under linux".
Or you go to Freshmeat, and enter
scsi spin down
in the search box --- and number 6, "noflushd", is what you are after.
It describes how to handle SCSI disks in its README file.
Now, granted, it sounds like neither solution is completely stable with
the latest development kernels (the last time I used scsi-idle was in '96),
but at least it's there, and it's fairly easy to find.
Bernie
--
Gentleman, I am a Catholic... If you reject me on account of my
religion, I shall thank God that He has spared me the indignity of
being your representative
Hilaire Belloc
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From: "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 15:21:43 -0500
Apple Advertising <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> You forgot to figure in that in order to program in Windows a DECENT (read
> reasonably stable, reasonable performance, reasonable maintainability,
etc.)
> program, you have to first BUY the SDK and API documentation (free
documentation
> included with Linux - other flavors of *nix vary);
Untrue. The SDK is available for free download, and the API documentation
is included in that. It's also available via HTML.
> and don't forget you also have to BUY the compiler. BTW
You don't HAVE to buy a compiler. There are free compilers, such as the
windows version of GCC. Borland also has a complete 32 bit compiler for
free download.
> I may be a little off here, but I still have not been able to find
documentation
> on Windows interfacing without having to purchase the books. And if
someone
> suggests that the documentation is free - how much did it cost you to go
through
> Windows certification training before you have access to this free
> documentation?
It is free. Go to http://msdn.microsoft.com. You clearly didn't look very
hard.
> BTW - same programming software requires a per-machine license in order to
> LEGALLY be used - Sorry my wife won't let me keep up with the single
software
> group that I do have let alone get legal on the several machines that I
work on
> at home (in this case, programming for me is a hobby, not a job).
GPL products require a per-machine liscense as well. It's just that the
liscense is free.
And you can legally distribute GCC for windows and BCC 5.5.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Bismuti)
Subject: capturing desktop before exiting X?
Date: 23 May 2000 20:01:16 GMT
Is there anyway of capturing a desktop before exiting the xserver?
I'd like to automatically fire back up all of the apps I have
running (Netscape, xv, gvim) as well as pop back up all of the xterms
and restore any settings I may have changed.
I use RH6.2 + FVWM2-MWM.
Thanks!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian Moore)
Subject: Re: getting started with Apache?
Date: 23 May 2000 16:11:00 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Just install the apache RPM that comes with RedHat
>> distributions. It runs fine as installed by rpm, but it
>> couldn't hurt to review the configuration files to make sure
>> you like RH's defaults.
>
>For some reason I assumed that running a Web server would be
>way more complex -- but now I realize it won't be that big a deal.
>Though, I would imagine, it takes awhile to figure out all the
>customizations of the configuration.
>
>
>--
>
>Neil
Nope, it's that easy. Isn't that cool? Install the default
Redhat stuff and your web page is up and going. It's for that
reason that I have become by default the webmaster guy of our
department, everybody else runs Windows.
But make sure you know what you do have running, disable the
stuff you don't want (e.g. you may have anon-ftp enabled by
default) and keep your eye on security.
--
Brian G. Moore, School of Science, Penn State Erie--The Behrend College
[EMAIL PROTECTED] , (814)-898-6334
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve)
Subject: Re: login messages
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 23 May 2000 21:20:54 GMT
On Tue, 23 May 2000 15:35:23 +0300, Tuomas Saloranta wrote:
>I have this problem with Caldera OpenLinux 2.3.
>
>After I log in I get the following messages:
>
>
>What is the file that prints the bold line (the second last line)? The
>three rows before "you have mail." is the /etc/motd -file, but in which
>file is the text that says "Welcome to ******"??
>
>If you can help me, please contact me by e-mail at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Post here read here.
Have a look around in your home directory at .bashrc and .bash.profile
and also the bashrc and profilerc files in /etc. These filenames may
not be exact, but you get the idea.
--
Cheers
Steve email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
%HAV-A-NICEDAY Error not enough coffee 0 pps.
web http://www.ndirect.co.uk/~sjlen/
or http://start.at/zero-pps
4:13pm up 6 days, 17 min, 2 users, load average: 1.07, 1.06, 1.01
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From: Erik Taraldsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Verion of linux?
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 21:35:36 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I installed a linux distribution of SUSE on my system, kernel version
> 2.0.26
>
> Last week i wanted to upgrade my kernel, so I downloaded a new kernel,
> version 2,2,15. Acording to the documentation I needed a new compiler
> too, so i downloaded the latest GCC compiler and installed it.
> After i compiled the new kernel without getting any error (after the
> fifth time) i installed the new kernel.
> I replaced the old kernel with the new kernel, so lillo would boot with
> the new kernel.The new kernel is bigger too, about 670kb. The old kernel
> was 570 kb.
>
> During startup, linux still gives a line that says: building 2.0.36
> modules. ??
>
> When i use the :uname -r command it also says 2.0.36.
>
> But i still think i'm using the new 2.2.15 kernel, because there are a
> number of lines that are showing during startup, that i never seen
> before, Like :there are 3 HD's in my system. Linux now shows all my hd's
> ,
> while they are disabled in the bios.
>
> Other than that, the system seem to run fine.
> Is there another way too check my kernel version?
> Did I make a mistake somewhere during the compilation of the new kernel?
> Is it possible the new kernel uses the old modules (during compilation
> maybe?)
cat /proc/version
will show you what verson you are running.
After you created the new kernel you modified /etc/lilo.conf and executetd
lilo? As explaind in /usr/src/linux/README
-Erik
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: getting started with Apache?
Date: 23 May 2000 13:40:11 PST
Brian Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Nope, it's that easy. Isn't that cool? Install the default
> Redhat stuff and your web page is up and going. It's for that
> reason that I have become by default the webmaster guy of our
> department, everybody else runs Windows.
Yes it is very cool. By the way, can't Web servers run on Windows
as well? (Not that I would want to do that I just thought that it
was possible: personal web server, apache, run on Windows?)
> But make sure you know what you do have running, disable the
> stuff you don't want (e.g. you may have anon-ftp enabled by
> default) and keep your eye on security.
Okay. Thanks.
--
Neil
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Subject: Re: Highlander PIDs
Date: 23 May 2000 20:41:52 GMT
On Tue, 23 May 2000 16:59:11 -0300,
Henrique Pantarotto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello friends,
>
> I have a couple of processes in my Linux server that won't die. For
> example:
>
> popmgr 18613 0.0 0.0 2144 0 ? DW May11 0:00 [nnpopper]
> popmgr 10337 0.0 0.0 2140 0 ? DW May12 0:00 [nnpopper]
> popmgr 12868 0.0 0.0 2140 0 ? DW May13 0:00 [nnpopper]
> popmgr 1815 0.0 0.0 2152 0 ? DW May15 0:00 [nnpopper]
> popmgr 5254 0.0 0.0 2140 816 ? D May18 0:00 nnpopper
> popmgr 26973 0.0 0.0 2140 812 ? D May18 0:00 nnpopper
>
> Today is May 23rd, and PID 18613 won't die! I tried kill, kill -9 many
> times, but the PID is very strong. nnpopper is a pop3 daemon, reading mail
> at a NFS server (a netapp F760).
'D' is a clue. This is an uninterruptable sleep. As the man page for
ps states "usually IO" is the clue. It's almost certainly waiting (and
still waiting) for an IO operation (usually disk) to complete.
> People tell me that I have to reboot the server, but I don't like doing
> this.. (microsoft way of thinking)
Depending on what it is waiting for, you may need to.
> Anybody has any clues? Should I send any contents from /proc/18613/* ?
Probably not, it won't do anyone but you any good. But do look there,
probably at the fd directory and see what files it has open, which
should give you a clue as to what IO it is stuck on.
--
Brian Moore | Of course vi is God's editor.
Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | If He used Emacs, He'd still be waiting
Usenet Vandal | for it to load on the seventh day.
Netscum, Bane of Elves.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Subject: Re: kernel not using memory
Reply-To: hauck[at]codem{dot}com
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 19:40:25 GMT
On Tue, 23 May 2000 12:07:23 -0400, Brian D. Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I recently bought 64megs of additional ram to put next to the factory
>installed 64 on my gateway celeron 400. the boot messages indicate that
>it's finding all 128megs of ram, but typing "free" shows that the kernel
>is only using 64meg.
This is a FAQ. You could have found the answer by searching Deja. In
/etc/lilo.conf, in the global section, add:
append = "mem=128M"
Then re-run /sbin/lilo and reboot. This problem is supposed to be fixed
in 2.2, but it sometimes still crops up.
--
-| Bob Hauck
-| Codem Systems, Inc.
-| http://www.codem.com/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason Bowen)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: Installing a new distro while leaving /home intact
Date: 23 May 2000 20:55:16 GMT
I am going to be doing a re-install on a few machines and /home is on a
completely sepearate disk that will not be touched. To keep owner/group
information correct what do you I need to save besides the passwd and
shadow files?
Thanks in advance.
Jason
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From: Tim Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: D-link 220 in RedHat 6.2
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 14:05:32 -0700
Get rid of the 8390 entry. Send the person that told you to load 8390.o to
Redmond.
/usr/src/linux-2.2.16/drivers/net% cat /etc/conf.modules
alias eth0 ne
alias eth1 ne
options ne io=0x240,0x340 irq=3,11
/usr/src/linux-2.2.16/drivers/net% lsmod
Module Size Used by
ip_masq_vdolive 1136 0 (unused)
ip_masq_user 2440 0 (unused)
ip_masq_quake 1156 0 (unused)
ip_masq_irc 1392 0 (unused)
ip_masq_raudio 2800 0 (unused)
ip_masq_ftp 2448 1
ne 5952 2 (autoclean)
8390 6340 0 (autoclean) [ne]
[dmesg]
...
ne.c:v1.10 9/23/94 Donald Becker ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
NE*000 ethercard probe at 0x240: 00 50 ba a0 f7 6c
eth0: NE2000 found at 0x240, using IRQ 3.
NE*000 ethercard probe at 0x340: 00 40 33 d0 f5 88
eth1: NE2000 found at 0x340, using IRQ 11.
...
Kevin Brown wrote:
>
> I have a D-Link 220 in running in RedHat Linux 6.2. I'm using the
> NE2000 module and it works fine, but during boot the kernel gives me an
> unresolved symbol error when loading ne.o. My /etc/conf.modules looks
> like this:
>
> alias eth0 8390
> alias eth0 ne io=0x300 irq=10
>
> the 8390 has to be loaded before the ne module, but it seems the kernel
> isn't doing this on boot. When i do the insmod 8390 and insmod ne
> myself, it works fine.
--
timothymoore bigfoot com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Bismuti)
Subject: pointing elm at pop3 server
Date: 23 May 2000 20:53:25 GMT
Our company uses a POP3 mail server and I have an IP address
that they have given me, how can I point me Linux box at
this address so I can read me mail with elm?
Also, there is a name of a program that sorts mail into folders
before you read it according to subject,cc,from, etc, what is
the name of it?
Thanks!
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