Linux-Misc Digest #615, Volume #20 Sun, 13 Jun 99 16:13:12 EDT
Contents:
Re: Linux on a 486? (Jon Sundquist)
Re: SuSE vs Red Hat? (Keven R. Pittsinger)
Re: SuSE vs Red Hat? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: linux-newbie ("Steven K.Iinuma")
Re: Shutting down as a normal user.. (Ed Young)
Windows doesn't detect "Linux disc" ("Gabriele Frankemoelle")
Re: biZaRRe: X changes pErmisSiOns of /dev/audio*. ????????? (Stewart Honsberger)
Re: Re-assigning IRQ (Stewart Honsberger)
Re: strange telnet problem ("Felix Kan")
Re: Setting up a mail server on RH 6.0 ("Andrey Smirnov")
Re: Wrong major or minor number??? ("Spud")
Re: Which Databases are available for Linux (bowman)
Re: linux-newbie (Stewart Honsberger)
Parition Magic 4.01 obliterated my ext2 partition ("R. Paul McCarty")
Netscape Shift-Button1 Save Command (root)
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Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 12:50:09 -0400
From: Jon Sundquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux on a 486?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> I used to run fvwm95 which was acceptably fast. I now have KDE with kwm
>> on it which is slower, but I like it enough to stick with it. Lately, I
>> just use it mainly for e-mail and some web browsing, especially when I'm
>> on the road.
>
> Try using snice (as root), and change the priority (to -10
> say). On my (similar) system it's made a noticeable
> difference.
Change whose priority? kwm's?
Actually, I'll try that right now (using that old 486SX for wordperfect
8 as I type).
Jon Sundquist
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Keven R. Pittsinger)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: SuSE vs Red Hat?
Date: 13 Jun 1999 17:59:57 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mohd H Misnan) writes:
> On 5 Jun 1999 10:10:47 GMT, Keven R. Pittsinger wrote:
>>In article <7j8hk9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> Reinier Post <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>
>>>>For one thing, where does SuSe stash my *mail*???? It
>>>>sure ain't /var/pool/mail, unless I screwed something up...
>>>
>>> It's in /var/spool/mail, as expected.
>>
>>Heh. The first time I installed it and got onto the net to get my mail,
>>it tossed the incoming mail into the bit bucket. This installation, it
>>seems to work ok.
>>
>>But what *RILLY* maxxes me off is sendmail. It's not a mail handler, it's
>>a *religion*, requiring the sacrifice of small cute furry animals on a
>>regular basis to work properly. <sigh> IMNSFBHO, the *only* thing
>>holding Linux back from being a true desktop OS is its lack of *EASILY*
>>configurable mail tools. By this, I mean, you edit a flat ASCII file (or
>>run a tool provided by your friendly distro compiler), fill in some info
>>about your SNTP mail server, such as IP number and name, and *ALL* your
>>mail goes to it on a send. This *shouldn't* be that hard, dammit.
>>Configuring sendmail can be a *nightmare* for somebody who knows a *bit*
>>about what they're doing; for a rookie, it's almost impossible to deal
>>with without a lot of headbanging. <sigh> It *SHOULDN'T* require buying
>>a $30 book just to email the planet.
>
> On the first place, you dunnot need sendmail if you've your mailbox somewhere
> else (ie. inside your ISP mailserver). You can run Netscape and get it run in no
> time.
I don't like Netscape for email. I like exmh.
Keven
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: SuSE vs Red Hat?
Date: 13 Jun 1999 18:38:29 GMT
In the sacred domain of comp.os.linux.misc didst Keven R. Pittsinger
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> eloquently scribe:
:> nod mail should not be this hard.
:>
:> there are three things which seem to be hard to install/configure in
:> linux - X, ppp and e-mail.
Four... Four things that seem to be tricky to configure in Linux...
X, ppp, e-mail and news and.... I'll come back in....
:)
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From: "Steven K.Iinuma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux-newbie
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 10:29:40 -0700
>5. Does linux support adsl or cable modems.
Yes, it does. As long as the NIC is compatible with Linux then you
shoudld be able to use the ADSL or cable service. However, you need
two more things to get it working. You need be able to start dhcpcd
services on you computer. And a logon program, if your ISP uses one.
Christopher Boyde wrote:
>
> Hello I am thinking of installing Linux 6.0 from Redhat but I have a few
> questions frist
>
> 1. When you install the redhat version 6.0 of linux do you start of with a
> gui or do have to install your own.
>
> 2. Does linux have it's own software for internet sharing.
>
> 3. If linux can't read fat 32 hard drives how can it use hard drives bigger
> than 2 GB which is fat 16 limit.
>
> 4. Can I use Linux for my server where all other systems use win 98 with fat
> 32 hard drives.
>
> 5. Does linux support adsl or cable modems.
>
> 6. Is the Celeron Processor any good for linux.
>
> 7. Whats the difference in the inerface between the workstation and sever
> versions.
>
> 8. Does the server version come with Redhat 6.0
>
> Thanks for any help.
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From: Ed Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Shutting down as a normal user..
Date: 12 Jun 1999 14:32:18 GMT
Anthony DeLuca wrote:
>
> How come I can't shutdown or reboot as a normal user. This is my home
> machine....I am told that shutdown is not an available command... I even
> tried su shutdown -h now.... and it still didn't work...Thanks in
> advance..
Shutdown has to be done as root. However, after you logout
as a user try the three-fingered-salute (Ctrl-Alt-Del) at
the login prompt. I am running RH5.2 and this works for me.
I have altered the /etc/inittab file, changed one line to
look like this:
ca::ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -t3 -h now
The -h used to be a -r, which would reboot the system.
You have to be out of X to do this. I have my system rigged
to boot to a terminal window (level 3). I automatically startx
on login for users (not for root).
Have fun...
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From: "Gabriele Frankemoelle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Windows doesn't detect "Linux disc"
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 20:40:05 +0200
Good eve everyone!
I have a PC with two 2,1 GB hard discs - with Windows 95 (1,9 GB) and a
Linux swap partition on disc C: , the main Linux partition (1,4 GB) and some
more space for Windows swapping and stuff on disc D: \ .
After partitioning the drives (under DOS with fdisk) Windows has no longer
access to the DOS-partition on disc D:, whenever I try to store some files
there I get error messages like "No access to D:\ - no device connected or
defunct"- Fdisk lists the Linux and DOS-partitions correctly, the latter
with "system unknown" which should be FAT 32, I know that much. When I try
to format the D:\ DOS section (with format under DOS) I get some "parser
error 2".
Needless to say ;-) disc D:\ certainly is not defunct or non-existent
because Linux works just fine and even the swap partition on the other disc
is recognized properly. Anyone came across this thing before? Thanx for your
efforts,
Gabriele Frankemoelle
- Freie Journalistin -
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stewart Honsberger)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: biZaRRe: X changes pErmisSiOns of /dev/audio*. ?????????
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 17:43:12 GMT
On Sat, 12 Jun 1999 19:46:35 -0500, Igor wrote:
>I have a problem. Whenever I start X windows, it changes the owner and
>the permissions of /dev/audio*, /dev/dsp*, and /dev/mixer*.
Interesting. I just looked at the permissions on /dev/dsp, and it's got RW
all across the board - but I still have to SU myself to root before I can
access it with my radio card software.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stewart Honsberger)
Subject: Re: Re-assigning IRQ
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 17:44:31 GMT
On Sun, 13 Jun 1999 02:13:05 GMT, Robert Chung wrote:
>Somehow my sound card does not work right when it is not using IRQ 9
>but some device called "i82365" is using it (What the heck is
>i82365?). I would like to re-assign its IRQ 9 to something else so
>that I can let my sound card use IRQ 9. Is there any way to do it?
Do you have something on IRQ 2? IRQ's 2 and 9 are shared, thus using both
of them would cause a conflict.
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From: "Felix Kan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.help,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: strange telnet problem
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 18:42:47 GMT
Had the same problem before. try not to use Telnet from Microsoft (it sucks
anyways)... I downloaded another program called CRT and it works great with
vi.
Felix The Cat
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From: "Andrey Smirnov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Setting up a mail server on RH 6.0
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 11:48:11 -0700
Hello,
Try downloading and installing pop3 server from http://www.qualcomm.com
The popper3 server works great!
Good luck!
Jim Orfanakos wrote in message ...
>I have setup my Linux RH 6.0 system as a DNS serevr and a DHCP server...now
>I want to set it up as a mail server. I have another Linux RH 6.0
>workstation and a WIN 98 workstation that I am testing with.
>
>I have my own domain setup, and am testing with sending mail to:
>
>1) [EMAIL PROTECTED] from any host
>2) [EMAIL PROTECTED] from any host
>3) [EMAIL PROTECTED] from from any host
>4) user from any host
>
>Everything works fine if I use ELM or PINE from the Linux workstation or
the
>Linux server.
>
>The problem is that Netscape Messenger on the Linux server, Netscape
>Messenger on the Linux workstation, and Outlook Express on the WIN98
>workstation cannot establish a connection when sending and receiving mail.
>Actually....it appears that all will send, but none of them will receive.
>
>I suspect the problem is with POP3 / SMTP configuration on the RH 6.0
>server. Netscape and Outlook Express want a POP3 server for incoming mail,
>and a SMTP server for outgoing mail. The RH 6.0 Linuxconf tool for setting
>up a mail server only uses POP for the protocol. There is no separate
>incoming and separate outgoing protocol configuration, plus from the pull
>downs, Linuxconf only supports POP, SMTP, or UUCP.
>
>I want to set the mail server up so it can server any e-mail client.
>
>Thanks.
>
>Any ideas?
>
>
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From: "Spud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Wrong major or minor number???
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 18:46:02 GMT
You shouldn't be trying to mount /dev/pda, you should mount /dev/pda1,
or pda2, etc...
>
>When I try to mount my paride device....pda..........I get the message
>
>"mount: /dev/pda has wrong major or minor number "
>
>
>what does that mean....???and how do I change it?
>
>I'm trying to mount my Syquest Syjet...........since with my new
>kernel...2.5.5-15...the old
>epst.c driver won't compile....
>
>
>Any help would be appreciated...
>
>
>Daniel
>
>
>
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From: bowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Which Databases are available for Linux
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 12:34:04 -0600
Al wrote:
>
> Which databases are available for Linux?
> I want to connect Java to the database.
mySQL and postgreSQL are two that are available. I'm using mySQL, and it
seems to be almost a full implementation. Foriegn keys are not
supported, though the syntax won't choke the manager. Embedded SQL is
also lacking, though there is a fairly standard API that you should be
able to get going with Java.
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http://people.montana.com/~bowman/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stewart Honsberger)
Subject: Re: linux-newbie
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 17:54:21 GMT
On Sun, 13 Jun 1999 14:19:06 GMT, Christopher Boyde wrote:
>Hello I am thinking of installing Linux 6.0 from Redhat but I have a few
>questions frist
<SEMANTICS>
Linux is the kernel, RedHat is the distribution. The product that uses the
Linux kernel.
I beleive RedHat v6.0 comes with Linux v2.2.5
</SEMANTICS>
>1. When you install the redhat version 6.0 of linux do you start of with a
>gui or do have to install your own.
Can't answer this for sure, but I know that in 5.2 there's a user-not-so-
unfriendly text interface. It's still a GUI, just not the kind you're
thinking about.
>2. Does linux have it's own software for internet sharing.
Most distributions come with many (if not all) of the apps you'll ever need
to setup a complete internet server, yes.
>3. If linux can't read fat 32 hard drives how can it use hard drives bigger
>than 2 GB which is fat 16 limit.
Linux has nothing to do with the FAT {shudder} filesystem, except for the
fact that it can read from/write to it.
Side note; Did you know that the FAT filesystem was originally designed for
floppy disks?
Commentary; Do you beleive that a filesystem designed for no more than a
couple megs of data is worthwhile for multiple gigs of data?
Linux uses the EXT2 filesystem (Second Extended Filesystem). It has no 2 gig
limitations, and AFAIK, it's limitations are quite higher than the largest
HDD's you can find today.
>4. Can I use Linux for my server where all other systems use win 98 with fat
>32 hard drives.
Yep.
>5. Does linux support adsl or cable modems.
Since neither of them are 'modems', but instead network cards that plug
into your computer (and connect to an external device that converts the
incoming signal into a plausable data format); yes.
>6. Is the Celeron Processor any good for linux.
I've heard good things about them, as well as bad. At the moment, I run an
IP166. Suits my needs more than adequately.
>7. Whats the difference in the inerface between the workstation and sever
>versions.
Uhm.. I've never headr of workstation vs. server versions.
>8. Does the server version come with Redhat 6.0
Sounds to me like you're thinking of Microsoft products.
A tip: To be successful in the Linux world; forget EVERYTHING Microsoft (or
DOS) related. Linux is a 32-bit, multi-user operating system while Microsoft
(DOS) os's are primarily 16-bit, single user OS's. (NT comes close(r), but
it's still not quite multi-user).
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From: "R. Paul McCarty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Parition Magic 4.01 obliterated my ext2 partition
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 11:34:19 -0500
I don't know how else to describe what Parition Magic did when I resized a linux
ext2 partition from the windows side of a dual boot win95/linux system, then it
obliterated it.
I was so happy when I finally bought the latest version of Partition Magic which
claims to fully support Linux (still can't run the gui in linux though) and the
first thing I wanted to do was resize a linux partition to take advantage of an
800M block of free space I didn't use when I first installed the system. I
booted windows, opened PM, it recognizes the ext2 partitions just fine, I select
resize, drag the end of the partition into the free space and then select apply
changes, it checks the integrity, checks for bad blocks, updates the partition,
and walla, done. I go to reboot under linux and get dropped into a shell
because e2fsck encountered too many errors (note the root partition is separate
from the one I resized). So I run e2fsck and it starts scrolling errors about
duplicate/bad blocks.. I figure it'll fix whatever happened and leave it for a
while, an hour later it's still working on it.. 2 hours.. I cancel reboot to
windows and try to size it back. Again PM gives no complaints and claims
everything if fine. Reboot to linux, same problem. I decide to let fsck run
through and leave it overnight.. 10 hours later it's still fixing things and by
my estimates it would have taken at least another day to fix all the problems,
and I'm not sure whether "fix" would mean empty HDD, or recovered files.
Has *anyone* every tried to resize a linux partition using e2fsck? Did I do
something wrong? Any idea how to recover from this? I mean *anything*. After
perusing Powerquests help files I discovered there is a separate linux native
resize utility, which may actually work, whereas I have no evidence that the
windows version knows how to handle linux partitions properly (despite the fact
it let me do it)
Thanks for any advice..
-Paul
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (root)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Netscape Shift-Button1 Save Command
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 13 Jun 1999 12:00:55 -0700
Does anyone know of a way to bypass the "Save As..." dialog box and
directly save to the disk in the current directory with Shift-Button1?
I tried ActivateLink(save) in the bindings, but there doesn't seem to
be a mapping for that, only 'save-only'.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks!
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