Linux-Misc Digest #641, Volume #20 Tue, 15 Jun 99 06:13:10 EDT
Contents:
Re: GNU g77 & LINUX glibc (Rob Komar)
Multiboot question (Shaun Dishman)
Re: making linux go away (Ted Sikora)
Re: kernel panic: No init found. THANKS STAROFFICE! (Charly)
Re: Umlaut: Linux <--> MS (Villy Kruse)
Filename for File descriptor (Andreas Birkholz)
extract password from login box (Khairul Azmi Abu Bakar)
Re: first/second/third world (Ketil Z Malde)
eldorado (jik-)
Re: SuSE vs Red Hat? (Stephen E. Halpin)
volunteer artist needed for LINUX application Logo (randall loomis)
Mirror setup problem (eddycheung)
Re: first/second/third world (Richard Kulisz)
Re: Commercially speaking....? (Matthew Malthouse)
Re: PPP and RedHat 6.0 (Ian Briggs)
Re: COL225: LILO says: geo_comp_addr: Cylinder number is too big (1137 > 1023)
(Chris Raper)
Re: dpkg on non debian (and/or non-linux?) (J.H.M. Dassen (Ray))
Re: Linux on Palm-PCs (Roger Gammans)
Q3Test with TNT2 ?! (Andreas Spengler)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rob Komar)
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.fortran
Subject: Re: GNU g77 & LINUX glibc
Date: 14 Jun 1999 18:22:57 GMT
Helmut Kindl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
:
: I have a problem with the "trapfpe", that is a small c-routine which
: handels the Floating-point Exception.
: The routine run quite well up to the point I upgarded my RedHat-LINUX
: and my glibc from 2.0.7-29 to
: 2.1.1-6!
: Has anybody an idea who to solve the problem.
Hi,
I have heard that the __setfpucw routine was removed from gclibc 2.1.
If your C code used this function, then it would stop working. Look
at http://www.linuxsupportline.com/~billm/index.html for some
information on using the new proposed extensions to the C language.
: ps: Please send answer to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Okay, I mailed this, as well.
Cheers,
Rob Komar
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From: Shaun Dishman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: git.unix.linux
Subject: Multiboot question
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 03:02:14 -0400
Here is my current scenario:
/dev/hda : Maxtor 4 GB HD, Running Windows NT 4.0
/dev/hdc: Western Digital 6.4 GB HD, Running Linux RedHat 6.0
I have currently come to the conclusion that, although I am happy at the
fact that I am running 2 incredibly stable OSes, I have no outlet
through which to play most of my games (besides Q2, that is). So I have
decided to sell my soul and put a small win95 partition on my computer,
just big enough to hold all of the games I'd like to play. Currently my
system is being booted through the NT Boot Loader, and my question is
this: is there any way I can add a 95 partition to this system and not
have to redo everything, thereby losing the games I have on there (and
can't replace)? I understand that one of the above would probably have
to be formatted and split up to make room for a new partition (unless I
use partition magic), but my problem lies in the fact that I'm scared
that if I set up a w95 partition, it's going to overwrite the MBR and
screw over the linux/NT partitions. Has anybody done this, or have a
viable solution? Thanks...
Shaun
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Shaun Allen Dishman
BA 535, Theta Xi Fraternity
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://tx36.eastnet.gatech.edu
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I can do all things through Christ which
strengtheneth me. - Philippians 4:13
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From: Ted Sikora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: making linux go away
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 07:01:48 GMT
John Sowden wrote:
>
> I read the responses, just flames. The problem is you are asking a valid
> question. I also need to know how to remove Linux from a hard drive, as I
> am installing a new copy (caldera) and it doen't discuss in the newbie part
> about installing over an existing linux os.
>
> Can someone please take our requests seriously.
>
> adam howard wrote in message <7iv13k$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >talk about a waste of bandwidth....do we really need a few dozen people to
> >give the same answer?
> >
> >
> >> How do I get rid of Linux in the boot sector (I guess that's where it
> >> is) once and for all?
> >
> >
> >
Open fdisk in Linux change the T(type) to 6 on all Linux partitions then
W(write) Shutdown Linux and boot with a DOS bootdisk. At the a:> prompt
run # fdisk /mbr to clean the boot sector then format the partitions
using # format d:/u You are now back completely.
--
Ted Sikora
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://tsikora.tiac.net
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From: Charly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: kernel panic: No init found. THANKS STAROFFICE!
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 09:31:04 +0200
Hi,
I saw people having similar problems in some newsgroups around.
They said that booting with the rescue disk have get back the system
working.
That's all I know, can't help more !
Bye.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Subject: Re: Umlaut: Linux <--> MS
Date: 15 Jun 1999 10:04:59 +0200
In article <7k3bpc$te1$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Indicatrix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Can anyone offer advice about how to deal with umlauts in Linux? In
>particular, I receive some mail written in MS Windows in the German
>language. In Linux (set up for US English) those special characters
>appear as '?' .
>
If the character set is set to US-ASCII there are no umlaut characters.
If they want to send umlaut characters they need to set their character
set to West-European (or whatever the paramtere is called this month).
Then they should enable mime and convert to Quoted-Printable to make sure
no mail gateway garbels the message by stripping the 8'th bit.
If this is done the characters will appear in pine same way as they were
sent. In pine you defind the character set as iso-8859-1 to avoid a
warning about incompatible character sets.
>Is there a way to make international characters appear the same in Linux
>as they do in MS Windows? Also, I want to be able to write in Linux and
>have the characters appear properly in MS Windows. Will switching the
>language from US English to German solve this issue? How will that
>affect my normal activities, which are almost completely English?
>
The standard character set fo e-mail within West Europe is iso-8859-1
aka latin-1, which includes both German umlauts as well as French
accent characters.
>Convincing everyone I correspond with to use Linux rather that Windows
>is not a practical solution (yet) :-( Even I must use Windows NT at the
>office.
Not required; but you could try to convinse them to turn off the HTML
formatted mail.
Villy
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From: Andreas Birkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.misc,comp.os.linux.developement.system,de.comp.os.misc,de.comp.os.unix.programming,de.comp.os.unix.misc
Subject: Filename for File descriptor
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 08:58:47 +0200
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From: Khairul Azmi Abu Bakar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: extract password from login box
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 16:15:02 +0800
Hello!
I'm trying to write a program where it need to have the password from the
login box as the input. The problem is how can i pass the password value
to my program. Thanks
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: first/second/third world
From: Ketil Z Malde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 08:11:29 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus) writes:
>>> First World largely refers to Exploiter nations (eg, USA) and Third
>>> World to their colonies (eg, Mexico, Brazil, Columbia, Saudi Arabia).
>> this is the most impressively patronizing, ivory-tower, silly,
>> academic attitude
> Well, that being said, have you got any actual proof that his
> assessment was wrong?
Only if you're brainwashed enough by the mass media to believe that
countries like Mexico, Brazil, Colombia and Saudi Arabia actually have
their own governments, and aren't colonies at all.
But yeah, we all know that they are *really* colonies, with CIA
staging elections to control the puppet regimes.
(Actually, I never thought I'd say this, but I kinda agrees with
Richard's rant about USA (and others) liberalizing/protecting markets
as it sees fit - and "it" being dominated by certain lobby-heavy
industries. Segregating into "exploiter nations" and "colonies" is a
bit harsh, and I don't think it serves to promulgate reasonable debate
about the subject.)
-kzm
--
If I haven't seen further, it is by standing in the footprints of giants
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From: jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: eldorado
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 01:21:24 -0700
I want to make a bootable CDROM. The CD-Writing HOWTO mentions this as
posible and tacks a name to it but never explains how to go about it. I
also read a very short file somewere that went into more depth by saying
you have to use LILO.....and the mkisofs man page has the command
switches but I don't know what I am supposed to feed it.
Could anyone explain the steps required to make a bootable CD, and is it
possible to make a bootable ext2fs CD?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stephen E. Halpin)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: SuSE vs Red Hat?
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 08:33:27 GMT
On 14 Jun 1999 15:59:17 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>In the sacred domain of comp.os.linux.misc didst Stephen E. Halpin
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> eloquently scribe:
>: As I recall, Redhat was different. Partitioning was still worse (why
>: Linux cant allocate a single BIOS partition and provide the usual 8
>: slices that other UNIX systems provide is beyond me) but the rest of
>: the installation was smoother, you had more control over which services
>: ran, and the LILO configuration allowed me to reference the nextstep
>: partition from the installation routine instead of hand editing the
>: lilo.conf file and reloading it (something a novice would have to
>: dig to find out about with SuSE.)
>
>??????
>
>During install, YaST asks if you want the machine to start using LILO. If
>you answer yes, you are placed on a simple screen that allows you to add new
>operating systems do LILO and so on.
I reinstalled with a smaller subset of stuff (still noting that most of
it was shown as "already installed" after I had completely wiped any
data on the non-NeXtstep part of the disk and did another clean install)
and beat hard on the LILO screens. There was a popup list which allowed
for DOS/Windows and OS/2 booting, but there was no way of specifying an
alternate OS (in my case, NeXTstep, which was already installed, and a
quick update of /etc/lilo.conf and running lilo gave me easy access to.)
>I haven't touched lilo.conf once manually, and I've been using SuSE for well
>over 6 months (and recompiled the kernel several times, modifying LILO to
>point to several kernel versions to be safe).
>
>: I havent configured this card with SuSE yet,
>: so I dont know if thats going to be easier or not.
>
>Quite possibly...
>
>I got the extra
>: stuff like the PowerTools, only to find that when I wanted to install
>: a package I got errors about missing packages, and had to fish them
>: out of the same disc by hand rather than being allowed to select an
>: "install all dependencies as well" button. The commercial X server
>: should also be avoided at all costs if you have a Matrox Millenium
>: card. I couldnt select valid display modes for my monitor and when
>: the screen saver activates the server trashes itself. The XFree86
>: stuff worked flawlessly, though the configuration is still not well
>: setup for a novice.
>
>SuSe has something called SaX (SuSE Advanced X configurator... Much easier
>to use than the old xf86Setup and xf86config).
I gave it a try (I usually just toss in one of my own hand customized
files) and it really was a >major< improvement. I didnt get around to
trying to install the Pinnacle sound card drivers or map to my networked
printer yet, but Ill do that sometime a little later in the week.
For me, the selection of packages was by far the worst part of the
installation. A better set of configurations, proper indication of
what is and is not installed, and useful help online (and in the
manual - there are no descriptions of the configurations and less
than a page of text on this whole subprocess in the installation
instructions) would make this a much better product. I like the
layout of the system, and the default KDE desktop as configured is
much more appealing and better setup than the default fvwm2 desktop
that RedHat 5.2 had (this obviously is configurable, and I dont know
what RedHat 6.0 shipped with.)
Im already happy about the switch to SuSE, as I feel I got a better
product for a lot less money than I would have spent on RedHat for the
base operating system and PowerTools. (BTW, it appears that the kernel
did accept the 512M page file I gave it, so it appears the warnings in
the partitioning software and manual can be ignored if you install the
2.2.5 kernel from the SuSE 6.1 discs. It looks like you can choose the
2.0.36 kernel after you partition, which is probably why the warnings are
still there. I also missed the fifth disc hiding behind disc four in the
case the first time!)
>--
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-Steve
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From: randall loomis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: volunteer artist needed for LINUX application Logo
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 12:07:39 -0700
I'm hoping to find someone with some artistic talent willing to
contribute a logo design in exchange for whatever fame or good
karma might be earned as a result of generously contributing
a little time and talent to The Cause.
I compiled the gnu egcs tool chain and cynus newlib for linux
host and the Hitachi H8/300 embedded microprocessor target system.
Additionally, I created a linux based FLASH eprom programming tool
for programming the H8/300's with on board FLASH memory.
I am GPL'ing my FLASH programming application and am planning to
call it GnuZFLASH. It's Gnu, it's for FLASH, and, well.....Z
The web site is http://www.zanshinsys.com/linux-h8300
the GnuZFLASH application is what is currently referred to
as the "flashpod" adaptor and the h8flash application.
I plan to update my site and would like add a new logo.
The idea I have in mind is the linux penguin in a reclined position
wearing wayfarer type sunglasses and an open newspaper across his chest
with a small H8 logo on it. Above, is the bright yellow sun with rays
shining down on him.
TIA,
randall
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Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 16:47:56 +0800
From: eddycheung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mirror setup problem
There is some problem when I setup mirror for my linux. I am using
raidtools-0.90-3 and kernel version is 2.2.5. The source partition is
/dev/sda1 and want to set mirror at /dev/sdb1.
Then I've written /etc/raidtab as following,
raiddev /dev/md0
raid-level 1
nr-raid-disks 2
nr-spare-disks 0
chunk-size 4
device /dev/sdb1
raid-disk 0
device /dev/sda1
raid-disk 1
and then I run 'mkraid /dev/md0'
it says,
handling MD device device /dev/md0
analyzing MD device /dev/md0
disk 0 : /dev/sdb1, 2056288kB, raid superblock at 2056192kB
/dev/sdb1 appears to contain ext2 filesystem
mkraid: aborted
What's wrong with me? should I format /dev/sdb1 once again?
Eddy
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Kulisz)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: first/second/third world
Date: 15 Jun 1999 08:35:42 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Ketil Z Malde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Segregating into "exploiter nations" and "colonies" is a
>bit harsh, and I don't think it serves to promulgate reasonable debate
>about the subject.)
It's meant to be harsh. If you see torture, call it what it is because
you don't gain anything by using the euphemisms the perp wants you to
use. No intelligent discussion can be held about trade if you ignore
the realities of exploitation and protectionism. I'm being deliberately
harsh to focus attention on a totally ignored issue.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthew Malthouse)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Commercially speaking....?
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 20:56:22 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jamie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
} The book implies that it will only leave the first of an 8.3 filename
} without a ~1.
What will it then do if the resultant 8.3 is not unique in the directory?
Matthew
--
"Homo sum: humani nihil a me alienum puto"
http://www.calmeilles.demon.co.uk/index.html
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ian Briggs)
Subject: Re: PPP and RedHat 6.0
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 19:35:21 GMT
Lance wrote:
:I've got a friend that can't seem to connect to the net as a regular user,
:although he can connect as root.
Probably wrong permissions for the files. If the installation didn't
already create a group called pppusers (or something similar), then
your friend can create one and make himself a member of it. Then he
needs to change the permissions on (off the top of my head)
/wherever/ppp-on, /etc/ppp/options and /etc/ppp/dialer (or whatever
these files are called) to group pppusers.
Ian
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Raper)
Subject: Re: COL225: LILO says: geo_comp_addr: Cylinder number is too big (1137 > 1023)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 08:57:25 GMT
On 11 Jun 1999 19:36:18 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Collin W.
Hitchcock) wrote:
Hi Collin
Sory for the delay in following up on your post - I got side-tracked
by a project that _had_ to go out last week! Work eh - who needs it!
;-)
>1) Put the kernel on a partition with cylinders less than 1024.
How easy is it do do this? Obvously, my current partition covers this
area of disk so (in theory) all I have to do is provide a _division_
that I can drop kernels into that is wholly within the confines of
cylinder 1024. But does Linux _have_ to boot from the first division
in a partition - ie. division #0? Or could I set up a small division 0
for kernel copies and set the main division as #1 for the rest of the
OS? Also, the next problem is - how do I know how many sectors = 1024
cylinders - or is it more complicated than that?
TIA
Chris R.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J.H.M. Dassen (Ray))
Subject: Re: dpkg on non debian (and/or non-linux?)
Date: 15 Jun 1999 09:00:35 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Is there a more general-purpose distribution of dpkg? I'd like to use dpkg
>on redhat systems, as well as digital unix and solaris.
Versions of dpkg have been used under Solaris, and Apple's installation tool
for Darwin will be dpkg(-based).
dpkg's source is portable, but the build process is somewhat involved. You
may want to ask for pointers on the dpkg development mailing list,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
HTH,
Ray
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J.H.M. Dassen | RUMOUR Believe all you hear. Your world may
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | not be a better one than the one the blocks
| live in but it'll be a sight more vivid.
| - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
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From: Roger Gammans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: Linux on Palm-PCs
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 20:02:22 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Ho) writes:
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Christian Kleitsch wrote:
>>>
>>> As far as I know, a Linux version for the Palm Pilot and even one for
>>> the Atari Portofolio has been already developed. Did anybody start to
>>> develop a 'Pocket Linux' for Palm-size PCs? (I mean this devices
>>> running now WinCE)
>> From my understanding, the compiled the kernel and got it to run on a
>> Pilot. Unfortunately, there really is no file system on a Pilot
There is also the linux7K project, which is building linux on the Psion5
and geofox-one.
It is possible that support for the latest ericsson device and the new
psion5x could be added.
All these devices have a CF or PCMCIA slot so Flash memory devices can
be/are used to build a filesystem.
>The only reference to this project I know about is
>
> http://ryeham.ee.ryerson.ca/uClinux/
>
You could look at (IIRC) http://www.calcaria.net/linux7k, for the Psion
stuff.
TTFN
--
Roger Gammans
"If I have trouble installing Linux, something is wrong. Very wrong."
-- Linus Torvalds
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Spengler)
Subject: Q3Test with TNT2 ?!
Date: 15 Jun 1999 11:07:15 +0100
Hi folks,
when I am running Q3test on my Linux box with a
fresh TNT2 Card I don't get any textures...
I would be very happy if some of you could tell me
if they got q3test to work with a TNT and how they
did it.
I know that the nVidia-FAQ states that q3test might
not work, but I tried it nevertheless.
Thanks for any help,
Andreas Spengler
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