Linux-Misc Digest #641, Volume #26 Tue, 26 Dec 00 18:13:01 EST
Contents:
Re: alternative module path (Timo Benk)
Re: ...wrong major or minor number ("Steffen Schulz (pepe)")
Samba zu langsam ("Christian Thauerer")
backups with the gnu tar command (Richard NAGY)
Re: Is Linux/Mandrake good? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
sound server with streaming (Richard NAGY)
Re: Only with Linux... (Floyd Davidson)
Re: ...wrong major or minor number (Bill Delphenich)
Re: Only with Linux... (Hartmann Schaffer)
Re: Need MINIMAL Linux for a laptop dinosaur... (Michael Perry)
Re: ...wrong major or minor number ("Steffen Schulz (pepe)")
Re: backups with the gnu tar command (LFessen106)
Re: Alias?? (Dave Brown)
help with configuring F-secure SSH version 1.0 (Hung Ngoc Lai)
Re: opening an Xterm in a script? (Michael Heiming)
installing wordperfect (Kevin Paul)
Re: for(;;) fork(); (M. Buchenrieder)
Re: unset password (Michael Heiming)
Re: LCD projector + linux = torture ("...")
Re: backups with the gnu tar command (Robert Jones)
Re: for(;;) fork(); (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Luis_Domingo_L=F3pez?=)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timo Benk)
Subject: Re: alternative module path
Date: 26 Dec 2000 18:14:24 GMT
Hi,
Forget the previous posting, it was my fault:
I stripped the modules and 'cause of that they didn't worked any more.
-timo
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From: "Steffen Schulz (pepe)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ...wrong major or minor number
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 19:34:37 +0100
On Tue, 26 Dec 2000 17:32:07 GMT, "Dan White"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>The obviuos question, are sure you're mounting the right partition
>number?
>Try 'fdisk -l /dev/hda' to see which partitions are valid.
my primary win32-partition is still /dev/hda1 and my /etc/fstab looks
fine:
...
/dev/hda1 /mnt/C vfat noauto,user 0 0
....
Same for /dev/hda4(ext) to hda9
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From: "Christian Thauerer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Samba zu langsam
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 19:36:54 +0100
Hallo,
Ich besch�ftige mich erst seit 3 Wochen mit Linux. (blutiger Anf�nger)
Ich hab den Samba-Server und das Masquerading installiert,
um mit meinem Windows-Rechner auf's Dateisystem bzw.
auf's Internet zuzugreifen.
Der Samba-Server wird mit dem INETD-D�monen automatisch gestartet.
Das Ganze funktioniert auch recht gut.(nach tagelangem Kampf mit der
Tastatur)
Nur der Samba-Server ist beim Download so langsam (ca. 150 KByte/sec. )
Beim Upload geht's schnell. ( ca 1MByte/sec.)
Ich hab eine 10MBit-Ethernetkarte (Realtec) drin,
aber das kann eigentlich nicht der Grund f�r die schlappe
Downloadrate sein.
Der Rechner ist �brigens ein K6-2 300MHz mit 128MB Ram.
Muss ich vielleicht irgendwo was an der Konfiguration des Servers
�ndern, damit die Kiste mehr ausspuckt???
F�r Ratschl�ge w�re ich sehr dankbar.
Christian
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From: Richard NAGY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.admin,alt.linux.storage.moderated
Subject: backups with the gnu tar command
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 19:43:08 +0100
Hello everybody,
I have some problems using the gnu tar program on RedHat linux 6.2 with the --exclude
directive and
with --new-volume-script directive as well
It does not do what I want.
For the first directive (--exclude) I want to exclude a whole directory ; so I write
--exclude=/exclude/this/one but It does not work !! I had a look in the man pages and
in the info
pages but I dont understand quite well.
Could someone give me an example for excluding an entire directory like
/this/is/a/directory/I/want/to/exclude.
For the --new-volume-script, tar seems to not execute my script. Has someone ever used
this tar
directive and how ?
An example would be very useful for me.
Thanks
--
Richard NAGY
PresenceWeb
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Is Linux/Mandrake good?
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 18:43:18 GMT
dom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: And what's wrong with that? If you want linux to succeed on a wide scale
Who said I want it to "succeed on a wide scale"? All that means is that
it is going to look more and more like the OS's that I dislike. The more
an OS appeals to the "common man", the less it tends to appeal to me.
For years people have said, "The good thing about Linux tho, is that
you don't *have* to use that crap" -> but it is starting to become more
and more the case that you *do*. Yuck. If I wanted MS Windows, I
already know where to get it, thanks.
This is like the age old story of the hero who defeated his enemy only
to realize that he himself has become the same as his enemy.
: it HAS TO get easier to install and configure for the 'common man' as you
: say. It is funny how the instinct to take shots at microsoft also
Why must it be easier to install & ocnfiugre for the "common man"?
Who cares? They already have many OS's to choose from.
: Once the newbie learns the ins and outs of linux, he or she can then tweak
: it how they want. Isn't that the beauty of the thing?
When it takes me several hours to de-windowsify a distribution, that's
most definitely *not* a good thing.
--
Jeff Gentry [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SEX DRUGS UNIX
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From: Richard NAGY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: fr.comp.os.unix,comp.unix.admin
Subject: sound server with streaming
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 19:51:38 +0100
Hello everybody,
I'm looking for a (free or cheap!) sound server with the streaming function which
works under
linux/unix. This server would be useable via windows clients (MS Windows sound clients
and Windows
web browsers).
Does someone know one I can use (if it exists !)
Thanks.
--
Richard NAGY
PresenceWeb
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From: Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Only with Linux...
Date: 26 Dec 2000 08:47:41 -0900
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Lamb) wrote:
>On Tue, 26 Dec 2000 10:55:59 -0600, Block Iron & Supply Co - CIS
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>"Steve Lamb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>>> On 26 Dec 2000 01:22:35 GMT, Carl Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> > find / -name emacs -print
>
>>> You know, I never understood why people insist on -print on a find.
>
>>Some *NIXs require it.
>
> Well given we're in comp.os.linux.misc and the title os "Only with
>Linux..." I think it is safe to assume that, just maybe, the person is using
>Linux. I know find doesn't require -print on Debian, Slackware and Stampede
>so I'm willing to even bet that it is the standard compile option for gnu
>find.
But some Linux users also work with other flavors of unix too, and
anyone who has ever used a find command that does not default to
the -print option will develop the habit of typing out the -print
every time.
It is not a bad habit to have.
--
Floyd L. Davidson <http://www.ptialaska.net/~floyd>
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Bill Delphenich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ...wrong major or minor number
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 13:59:48 -0500
"Steffen Schulz (pepe)" wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Dec 2000 17:32:07 GMT, "Dan White"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >The obviuos question, are sure you're mounting the right partition
> >number?
> >Try 'fdisk -l /dev/hda' to see which partitions are valid.
>
> my primary win32-partition is still /dev/hda1 and my /etc/fstab looks
> fine:
>
> ...
> /dev/hda1 /mnt/C vfat noauto,user 0 0
> ....
>
> Same for /dev/hda4(ext) to hda9
I ran into this problem with RedHat7 after I recompiled the kernel, even
though I didn't touch anything having to do with file systems. My vfat
partition mounted fine via /etc/fstab before I recompiled but after I
recompiled, it wouldn't mount, complaining about wrong major or minor
numbers.
I was never able to get an answer, so I went back to the default kernel
and it works.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hartmann Schaffer)
Subject: Re: Only with Linux...
Date: 26 Dec 2000 00:06:35 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ...
>OK. I got "/usr/bin/emacsclient" but when I tried to run "emacsclient" I
>am informed that the client could not find a socket and then asked if I've
>started the server!?! There is no "emacsserver". (Maybe I should just
>stick with vi and kedit?)
emacsclient is a program that lets you connect to a running emacs to
edit a file. you have to start emacs first and put it into server
mode by typing (gnuserv-start) in the lisp interaction buffer or
putting it into your .emacs file
did you find emacs itself?
hs
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Perry)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Need MINIMAL Linux for a laptop dinosaur...
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 11:28:59 -0800
On 26 Dec 2000 10:50:21 GMT, LuisMiguel Figueiredo
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) wrote in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>>Michael Perry writes:
>>> [ . . ]
>>
>>I don't think it will install in 4MB (run, yes).
>
>Debian now needs 12MB minimum to install :(
>--
>+--------------------------------+
>|elmig |
>|http://www.alunos.ipb.pt/~ee3931|
>|Luis.Figueiredo AT pt.bosch.com |
>+--------------------------------+
What would happen if you could do a slink installation off of the bootable
floppies that slink provided? I wonder if there are old boot floppies
around on the mirror sites?
Just an idea.
--
Michael Perry
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Steffen Schulz (pepe)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ...wrong major or minor number
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 20:20:01 +0100
>I ran into this problem with RedHat7 after I recompiled the kernel, even
>though I didn't touch anything having to do with file systems. My vfat
>partition mounted fine via /etc/fstab before I recompiled but after I
>recompiled, it wouldn't mount, complaining about wrong major or minor
>numbers.
>
>I was never able to get an answer, so I went back to the default kernel
>and it works.
>
>
Hm. I don't want to use the default kernel. It's ugly.
I don't even know if the default kernel support my USB-Mouse...and
SCSI-emulation...and my Matrox G400....the console looks much better
when I enable my G400 goodies
BTW: I'm using kernel 2.4.0. test9
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (LFessen106)
Date: 26 Dec 2000 19:28:21 GMT
Subject: Re: backups with the gnu tar command
>
>Hello everybody,
>
>I have some problems using the gnu tar program on RedHat linux 6.2 with the
>--exclude directive and
>with --new-volume-script directive as well
>It does not do what I want.
>
>For the first directive (--exclude) I want to exclude a whole directory ; so
>I write
>--exclude=/exclude/this/one but It does not work !! I had a look in the man
>pages and in the info
>pages but I dont understand quite well.
>Could someone give me an example for excluding an entire directory like
>/this/is/a/directory/I/want/to/exclude.
OK, This I can help with as I use it *all* the time.. You just need to adjust
your syntax a bit.. This is what I use for my full system backup - it will
show you a working syntax:
tar czvf /dev/st0 / --exclude /proc --exclude /mnt --exclude /dev
That example uses tar to create a zipped archive file on my tape drive
(/dev/st0) from the root directory onward skipping all information in /dev
/proc and /mnt..
Hope this helps!
-Linc.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Subject: Re: Alias??
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 26 Dec 2000 11:13:26 -0600
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>>
>> I think the poster was referring to shell aliases, not mail aliases...
>>
>> In order to have aliases recognized b/w sessions, they need to be placed inside
>> the appropriate startup file for the shell (ie. .bashrc for bash, .cshrc for csh).
>>
>> Adam
>
>Ok then you would add the alias to the ".profile' file in user home.
>
>--
>Confucius say: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
>Registered with the Linux Counter. http://counter.li.org
>ID # 123538
>Completed more W/U's than 98.944% of seti users. +/- 0.01%
--
Dave Brown Austin, TX
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From: Hung Ngoc Lai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: help with configuring F-secure SSH version 1.0
Date: 26 Dec 2000 20:18:27 GMT
Hi all,
I am trying to establish a SSH session from my windows machine (win98 Second
Edition) by using F-Secure SSH client version 1.0 from F-secure to a
RedHat Linux server version 6.1 running kernel version 2.2.18. The SSH server
running on the linux box is also from F-secure (datafellows 2.0.13). Everything
is properly configured on the server. However, I just can NOT connect to the
linux box (with password authentication). I can connect to the linux server
using ssh client from SecureCRT and a trial version of F-secure client version
4.3. In the sshd2_config file on the linux box, I set ssh to be compatible with
both ssh1 and ssh2. I kill the ssh daemon and restart the process but it does
not work.
Any ideas????
Many thanks.
David
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Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 21:43:39 +0100
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: opening an Xterm in a script?
Hello,
clearly the cleaner solution...I looked up your HP, hence the difference
between the solution (for me it worked) of a sysadmin vs. programer.
Thanks
Michael Heiming
Thomas Dickey wrote:
> Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > #!/bin/sh
> > cd $PWD && xterm &
> no exactly:
> #!/bin/sh
> xterm +ls &
>
> (if xterm is not a login-shell, it will run in the current directory,
> also $PWD may/may not be defined, depending on the implementation of sh)
>
> --
> Thomas E. Dickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> http://dickey.his.com
> ftp://dickey.his.com
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From: Kevin Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: installing wordperfect
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 21:08:33 GMT
Aargh! I recently upgraded from RH 5.2 to RH7.0 (cheapbytes
CD's) actually a reformat and clean install and am trying to
reinstall Wordperfect. I downloaded it and also have an Infomagic Cd
with the dl version. I unzip the file and run the Runme script.
Then I get lots of error messages about directories and files not
being found. Meanwhile it creates all the WP directories under /
Once upon a time I installed and ran WP8 happily but now I have no
idea what's goin on. Any help is much appreciated.
--
Kevin Paul
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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.redhat
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder)
Subject: Re: for(;;) fork();
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 16:09:38 GMT
[Note FollowUp-To: header]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[...]
>----frk.c--------
>#include <unistd.h>
>int main() { for(;;) fork(); return 0; }
>-----------------
Yawn. That's what's usually referred as a fork bomb. "man bash" or
"man ulimit" .
>At least the standard redhat kernel configuration/compilation can't
>handle this.
[...]
Because that's not a kernel problem per se. It's your incomplete
local setup.
Michael
--
Michael Buchenrieder * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.muc.de/~mibu
Lumber Cartel Unit #456 (TINLC) & Official Netscum
Note: If you want me to send you email, don't munge your address.
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Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 22:28:48 +0100
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: unset password
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> how can i unset password, or do i have to recreate the account?
>
> Sent via Deja.com
> http://www.deja.com/
type as root:
passwd username
and enter a new one, Re-enter and done...:-)
Good luck
Michael Heiming
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From: "..." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: LCD projector + linux = torture
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 22:06:46 GMT
If you want to use a projector, you will have the best luck using the
Framebuffer server, rather than the server designed for your chipset. The
framebuffer server uses Vesa DDC specs to generate the most appropriate
modelines, and as such is will work with any vesa compliant device,
including projectors. So, if your graphics chipset and the projector is
vesa compliant, then it will work. It is unnacellerated, and therefore
slow, however it does the job.
the framebuffer server for x3.3.x is called FBDev
the framebuffer driver for x4.0.x is called fbdev
X4.0.2 has introduced a new vesa driver that is supposed to be faster than
the fbdev driver, but I haven't tried it yet.
good luck
David Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> I have just spent an entire eventing trying to get my external LCD
> projector to work with Linux on my laptop. All works fine in text mode
> but the LCD projector goes blank and complains "no signal" when X
> starts. I have no problems under Windows 2000. I combed the web for a
> solution but, although I have seen the question posed numerous times, I
> have yet to find a working answer (one suggestion was to "plug the
> projector in after X has started" ... sorry, doesn't work). I am very
> frustrated; please chime in if you know the solution to this vexing
> problem!
>
> Detailed specs are:
>
> Epson 7500C LCD Projector, supports 1024x768
>
> XF86Config says:
> HorizSync 31.5-57.0
> VertRefresh 50-70
> Option "extern_disp"
> "1024x768" 75.00 1024 1048 1184 1328 768 771 777 806
> -hsync -vsync
>
> Maxstation i686 laptop running Red Hat Linux 6.2 with XFree86 3.3
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From: Robert Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: backups with the gnu tar command
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 17:02:45 -0600
LFessen106 wrote:
> >
> >Hello everybody,
> >
> >I have some problems using the gnu tar program on RedHat linux 6.2 with the
> >--exclude directive and
> >with --new-volume-script directive as well
> >It does not do what I want.
> >
> >For the first directive (--exclude) I want to exclude a whole directory ; so
> >I write
> >--exclude=/exclude/this/one but It does not work !! I had a look in the man
> >pages and in the info
> >pages but I dont understand quite well.
> >Could someone give me an example for excluding an entire directory like
> >/this/is/a/directory/I/want/to/exclude.
>
> OK, This I can help with as I use it *all* the time.. You just need to adjust
> your syntax a bit.. This is what I use for my full system backup - it will
> show you a working syntax:
>
> tar czvf /dev/st0 / --exclude /proc --exclude /mnt --exclude /dev
>
> That example uses tar to create a zipped archive file on my tape drive
> (/dev/st0) from the root directory onward skipping all information in /dev
> /proc and /mnt..
>
> Hope this helps!
> -Linc.
Also, if the list of excludes becomes cumbersome, you can do something like this:
tar -cvvf /dev/nst0 / -X /home/rj/nobackup
and then create a file named "nobackup" that contains the files and/or
directories to be excluded:
/proc/*
/dos/*
/usr/lib/*
/usr/share/*
--
Did you know that if you took all the economists in the world and lined
them up end to end, they'd still point in the wrong direction?
4:54pm up 2 days, 21:12, 1 user, load average: 0.10, 0.07, 0.08
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Luis_Domingo_L=F3pez?=)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.redhat
Subject: Re: for(;;) fork();
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 12:55:37 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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El d�a Tue, 26 Dec 2000 06:29:13 GMT,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribi�:
> To all those bragging about their uptime in their sigs:
>
> Try compiling and running the following program as non-privileged users:
>
> gcc frk.c
> ./a.out
>
> ----frk.c--------
>
> #include <unistd.h>
> int main() { for(;;) fork(); return 0; }
>
> -----------------
>
>
> At least the standard redhat kernel configuration/compilation can't
> handle this.
>
> Wroot
>
As far as I know, this is not a kernel recompilation issue. What this
program does is forking (duplicating) itself an unlimited number of times,
allocating huge amounts of memory, file descriptors and so on.
If the system running this program doesn't implement resource limitation
based on users, limiting allocated memory, file descriptors, or maximun
user processes, many things can happen depending on the systems
configuration and physical/swap memoryavailable.
It would be helpful to know what you meant when you said "can't handle" in
your original post. It can mean a kernel crash, unability to carry any
other user process due to resource starvation, etc.
- --
Jos� Luis Domingo L�pez
Linux Registered User #189436 Debian GNU/Linux Potato (P166 64 MB RAM)
jdomingo EN internautas PUNTO org => � Spam ? Atente a las consecuencias
jdomingo AT internautas DOT org => Spam at your own risk
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