Linux-Misc Digest #747, Volume #20 Tue, 22 Jun 99 22:13:08 EDT
Contents:
Re: Debian advocates (Benoit Goudreault-Emond)
Re: .bash_profile Path question (Scott Lanning)
Re: SuSE 6.1 anyone? (Michel Catudal)
Routing issue ("Carl Hilinski")
Re: Debian advocates (William Tanksley)
Re: Bytelan switch boxes (jerrad pierce)
Re: Problems booting 2.2.9 kernel: unable to mount root fs ("Cliff J.")
Re: Where can I get a free copy? (Michel Catudal)
Re: .bash_profile Path question (Hunkyu Chung)
Re: enlightenment sound (Michel Catudal)
The "RedHat Version" of KDE? ("Steve D. Perkins")
Re: open systems?!? Re: Why does Apple not cooperate with Be? ("Jeffrey Flowers")
Re: many boxes -> 1 monitor (jerrad pierce)
Re: Debian advocates (William Tanksley)
md/RAID-1 problem (xcitor)
Re: RealPlayer G2 (.ra, .ram) files?? (Michel Catudal)
X Problems in RH 6.0 ("Eric D. Futch")
ANN: Open Source XML Application Server Beta Released
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Red Hat 6.0 Bugs ("Moez Tharani Jr.")
Re: PPP/Modem problem (Bill Unruh)
Re: UNIX / LINUX Compatibility (Victor Wagner)
Re: using winmodems under Linux ?? (Michel Catudal)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Benoit Goudreault-Emond)
Crossposted-To: linux.debian.user,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Debian advocates
Date: 23 Jun 1999 00:05:04 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Steve Lamb wrote:
> On 22 Jun 1999 01:31:11 GMT, Benoit Goudreault-Emond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >scary. I still upgrade critical packages through the net, but with each
> >critical library upgrade eating up our single phone line for 5 hours+, it's
> >just not practical for me to do it this way.
>
> You need to sleep, your computer does not. One night, start the download,
> go to bed. That is how I did both of my installs over a 28.8k modem.
Connection dies too easily. Noisy line. AND doubles as phone line, not
only mine, with folks wanting to use it at wee hours. I'll take the CD,
thanks. :{)
--
Benoit Goudreault-Emond
CoFounder, KMS Group ; Student, B. Comp. Eng, Concordia University
``Being too close to a fireball can worry a man --- to death.''
-- Zeb Carter in "The Number of the Beast" by Robert A. Heinlein
Note: the "From:" address is not correct to protect myself against spam.
My actual e-mail address is: ``bgoudem AT axess DOT com''
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Lanning)
Crossposted-To: redhat.kernel.general,redhat.general
Subject: Re: .bash_profile Path question
Date: 23 Jun 1999 00:00:02 GMT
tpage ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: it will say that the command is not found. I know that I have
: to modify my Path somehow but I don't know how to do it. Does
: anyone know? thanks....
An immediate, but temporary, fix is
bash$ export PATH="$PATH:."
That appends a dot (current directory) to your already
existing $PATH.
That works fine...till you logout. You want it to be set
automatically on login, so you have to change a file which
is sourced when you login. It depends on which Linux you've
got where these files are exactly. You could try going into
the /etc/rc.d/ (or /etc/rc/ or something like that) directory
then 'grep PATH *' trying to find which file PATH is in. Then,
in that file, at the end of the PATH list, put ':.', like
set PATH='/usr/bin/:/usr/local/bin: ... /usr/sbin/:.'
^(here's the dot)
There're other places like, /etc/profile or /etc/bashrc, just
have to be sourced at login.
Some people will argue that you shouldn't put '.' in your
path for some fuzzy reason of security. Like, if some
hacker breaks into your account and placed a command like
'ls' in some directory, hoping you eventually try to ls that
directory only to find that it's been replaced by 'rm -rf /*'
or something like that. It seems a bit bogus to me. If you
read the order in which bash looks for the commands you give
it, it first goes through all shell functions, then all shell
builtins, then goes through--in order--through your PATH, so
if you put the '.' last, it'll only be executed after every
other possible thing. If someone can give me a convincing,
not overly paranoid, argument otherwise, I'd be interested.
--
Scott Lanning: [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://physics.bu.edu/~slanning
"One should not confuse this craving for change and novelty with the
indifference of play which is in its greatest levity at the same time
the most sublime and indeed the only true seriousness." --Georg Hegel
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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SuSE 6.1 anyone?
Date: 22 Jun 1999 18:45:10 -0500
Dave Brown wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ted Sikora wrote:
> >> Dan Star wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Can't SUSE be downloaded over the NET? I believe that this is
> >
>
> I noticed CompUSA is selling the official SuSE 6.1 package for $29.
> (Shucks, just paid $35 for it at cheapbytes.) The enclosed book is
> worth the 30 bucks.
>
Plus the fact that it includes OSS sound driver + tons of neat
applications.
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From: "Carl Hilinski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Routing issue
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 19:55:22 -0400
Okay, I've spent too much time on this and I'm ready for someone to just
tell me how to do this.
My Linux machine is 192.168.1.100.
My Ntserver box is 192.168.1.200. The ntbox runs MSProxy with nothing fancy
on the setup. When I run Netscape on the linux box and set it up to connect
to the internet through the proxy, everything works fine. However, if I try
to use another port 80 application (such as setiathome), the linux box
cannot connect to the internet.
The default route points to the ntserver. What am I doing wrong that I can't
get this to work?
ch
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Tanksley)
Crossposted-To: linux.debian.user,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Debian advocates
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 00:45:09 GMT
On 23 Jun 1999 00:05:04 GMT, Benoit Goudreault-Emond wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Steve Lamb wrote:
>> On 22 Jun 1999 01:31:11 GMT, Benoit Goudreault-Emond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>> >scary. I still upgrade critical packages through the net, but with each
>> >critical library upgrade eating up our single phone line for 5 hours+, it's
>> >just not practical for me to do it this way.
>> You need to sleep, your computer does not. One night, start the download,
>> go to bed. That is how I did both of my installs over a 28.8k modem.
>Connection dies too easily. Noisy line. AND doubles as phone line, not
>only mine, with folks wanting to use it at wee hours. I'll take the CD,
>thanks. :{)
Wow, bad luck. Almost amazingly so.
One thing I like about apt is that it handles resumes -- if the other
systems hangs up on you, you can just apt-get or dselect again and
everything will be fine.
Of course, with lines like that it might take several nights. Eww.
>Benoit Goudreault-Emond
--
-William "Billy" Tanksley
Utinam logica falsa tuam philosophiam totam suffodiant!
:-: May faulty logic undermine your entire philosophy!
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From: jerrad pierce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Bytelan switch boxes
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 16:12:51 -0400
Nope, but you could do away with the box all together an use VNC...
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From: "Cliff J." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problems booting 2.2.9 kernel: unable to mount root fs
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 23:47:50 GMT
Did you compile filesystem ext2 into the kernel and not a module?
"Ryan T. Rhea" wrote:
> I downloaded the new 2.2.9 kernel and after succesfully
> configuring/compiling the kernel, I recieved the following error at the
> first boot:
>
> Kernel panic: VFS: unable to mount root fs on 03:06
>
> Anybody have any ideas?
>
> Sincerely,
> Ryan T. Rhea
>
> p.s. please send a courtesy copy of any replies to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Where can I get a free copy?
Date: 22 Jun 1999 19:54:11 -0500
Mark Grosberg wrote:
>
> Cardiac Cardinals <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hello,
>
> > Where can I go to get a copy of Red Hat Linux? Also, will this install
>
> You can FTP it from many places but it is much easier to install from
> CD-ROM. You can get the CD-ROM rather cheaply from www.cheapbytes.com.
>
> > on my existing NT box?
>
> Linux can easily remove NT without any problems. During the install you
> can remove the NT slice (partition) and make new Linux partitions right
> over where NT was.
>
Very good response but I'd doubt that it is what he meant.
If it is to install along side NT I don't see why not. Partition
magic should be able to resize the drive. Without partition magic
the safest route would be to repartition and reinstall NT than
Linux and put Linux on the NT boot loader.
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From: Hunkyu Chung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: redhat.kernel.general,redhat.general
Subject: Re: .bash_profile Path question
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 09:45:14 +0900
Hi~,
I had the same problem.
Insert '.' in your $path environment variable which is in your startup file.
In my case, I use csh so I wrote '.' as the following line in .cshrc file.
path = ([included directories]:.)
tpage wrote:
> I need to get a.out and other executables working correctly. Right now I
>
> can type:
>
> $ ./a.out
>
> or
>
> $ ./executable (where executable is an executable file)
>
> and they will work correctly but if I just type the executable like:
>
> $ a.out
>
> or
>
> $ executable
>
> it will say that the command is not found. I know that I have to modify my
>
> Path somehow but I don't know how to do it. Does anyone know? thanks....
>
> TC
>
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> http://www.searchlinux.com
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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: enlightenment sound
Date: 22 Jun 1999 19:20:26 -0500
Jason Shea wrote:
>
> Hi all
>
> im having a problem with the esd daemon. I can send normal .au files to the
> /dev/audio device and it plays it. I run the esd daemon, it takes over the
> port (i know this because it will no longer accept the .au files). but when
> i try to play a sound (by using esdcat for example), it does nothing. it
> seems its receiving the data ok, its just not outputting it.
>
> what the hell is going on!?!
>
> Jason
Just don't use it, it takes over.
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From: "Steve D. Perkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: The "RedHat Version" of KDE?
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 19:57:12 -0400
Does anyone have any real clue as to why RedHat chose to
bastardize the distribution of KDE they include with 6.0...
installing it into non-standard directories, etc?!?
Steve
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From: "Jeffrey Flowers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.be.misc,comp.unix.misc
Subject: Re: open systems?!? Re: Why does Apple not cooperate with Be?
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 20:51:19 -0400
I believe that the reason Apple doesn't support foreign Operating Systems is
due to competition for the MacOS upgrade money that's out there. I don't
think people fully appreciate how much Apple must have made from this over
the years.
Which would you rather do: spend $99.00 for MacOS 8.6, which is really
System 7.0 with extra libraries and a pretty face (although I do like
Sherlock) or $69.00 for the techinically superior BeOS?
My answer was to give my iMac (Rev C) to my girlfriend and buy a Gateway PC,
on which BeOS 4.5 will be installed tomorrow.
Jeffrey
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From: jerrad pierce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: many boxes -> 1 monitor
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 16:09:32 -0400
Well if you were to run X on them you could use x2vnc
an extension of AT&T's VNC
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Tanksley)
Crossposted-To: linux.debian.user,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Debian advocates
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 01:18:20 GMT
On 22 Jun 1999 02:01:58 GMT, John Girash wrote:
>In col.misc William Tanksley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On 21 Jun 1999 04:21:27 GMT, John Girash wrote:
>>>I don't think he's asking for security updates for *all* past versions. Just
>>>for all past _minor_ versions of the current _major_ version, 2.x . Many open
>>>source developers seem to forget that a large part of their target audience
>>>is on _production_ machines that can't/won't/shouldn't be subjected to every
>>>*minor* OS upgrade as soon as it comes out if it can be avoided. Hamm is a
>>>fine, solid release; why abandon it so soon just 'cause slink is sexier?
>> We're going to have to artificially compensate (pay) people to do this,
>Hey, that's a real defeatist attitude! Why do you assume that it's possible
>to find hundreds if not thousands of volunteers to develop Debian, but not
>any to offer security support for already-existing releases? Doesn't add up.
That's because it's not only wrong, it's a classic example of a terrible
mistake I keep lecturing people about: Free Software works better than
that.
I feel really stupid for falling into a trap I knew so well.
>I've got a 486 at home that I'll happily test exploits & patches to hamm on.
Then you're the man. Join the Debian Developers group NOW, and suggest
that on their board. Even if you're not a coder, it's not that much work
for a coder to slap a test together and place it on your machine.
The hard part will come when it's time to actually add the patches to the
old release -- but I have confidence that if you cross that bridge when
you come to it, things will work out.
>> because there's no benefit otherwise. It's just too easy to upgrade!
>> Even for production machines.
>It's not a matter of ease, it's the issue of balancing risks. When does it
>become riskier to continue applying security patches and delay upgrading to
>the next point-release? Certainly not as soon as each "stable" release is
>available. That's just plain reckless. Sure, I trust Debian to get it 99.9%
>right before bestowing the "stable" moniker. But opening myself up to get
>bit by that last 0.1% would be irresponsible. Test it & let it mellow a bit.
Nothing is ever 99.9% stable, except maybe TeX.
Frozen is the time to test and let mellow; stable is a confidence-fest.
>Therefore security support for at least the previous minor version is necessary
>in order for Debian to be considered a viable alternative on real-world boxen.
Those are not exactly minor versions... But at the same time, if someone
like you's willing to run the tests and do the work, I suspect you'd be
well recieved in the Debian developer community.
>>>Otherwise Debian risks becoming an elitist hackers-only distro I fear.
>> Yeah, I don't want that. I hope Corel helps somewhat.
>??? How is Corel going to help in this regard?
Because Corel wants their Debian-based distro to look good to
corporations, who don't all place as much faith in auto-upgrade as
I've come to. Thus, you can bet that they'll pay people to maintain past
versions for a LONG time, maybe as long as IBM maintained OS/2 2.1.
I think Corel is a REALLY good thing.
--
-William "Billy" Tanksley
Utinam logica falsa tuam philosophiam totam suffodiant!
:-: May faulty logic undermine your entire philosophy!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (xcitor)
Subject: md/RAID-1 problem
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 20:28:21 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Setup: RedHat 5.2, running kernel 2.2.9, md driver version 0.36.6, according
to:
[xcitor@axel xcitor]$ dmesg | grep md
md driver 0.36.6 MAX_MD_DEV=4, MAX_REAL=8
I'm running raidtools 0.41 (the .5.something beta wouldn't compile).
I run the following set of commands:
/sbin/mdadd /dev/md0 /dev/sda3 /dev/sdb2
That command creates and /etc/mdtab that looks like this:
[root@axel /root]# cat /etc/mdtab
# mdtab entry for /dev/md0
/dev/md0 raid1,8k,0,90bc32d9 /dev/sda2 /dev/sdb2
I then run /sbin/mdrun -p1 /dev/md0,
and I get invalid argument
So then I try /sbin/mdrun -ar,
and I get the same error.
Also, on both examples, syslog has this to say:
Jun 22 20:20:33 axel modprobe: can't locate module md-personality-3
I have md support compiled in monolithically, not modularized, so I don't know
what it's complaining about. Any ideas? Pointers?
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8:02pm up 23:29, 3 users, load average: 1.63, 1.32, 0.85
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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RealPlayer G2 (.ra, .ram) files??
Date: 22 Jun 1999 20:15:06 -0500
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Mike Persell wrote:
>
> Dave Bailey wrote:
> > OK, I had forgotten the %s. Now it gets the title, author,
> > copyright, and says it's buffering the stream - but it never
> > actually starts playing the stream. Interestingly, it also
> > doesn't play the test file right. It seems to just keep
> > repeating a tiny smidgen of it over and over again.
>
> When you get the answer make sure you post it...I have the same
> problem on the G2 version.
>
> Mike
Mine works fine. This is under SuSE, it worked ok also on
RedHat 6.0
Look a the beginning of the attachment. You can put that in
/etc/profile
Change whatever is needed if you installed on a different directory.
The rest is unrelated, I'm too lazy to make a special file.
On RedHat make sure that the sound isn't enabled under Gnome
since you would get no sound out of anything but gnome as it
takes full control of the sound card.
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LD_LIBRARY_PATH="/usr/lib/RealPlayerG2"
export LD_LIBRARY_PATH
TIMID_DIR="/usr/lib/timidity"
export TIMID_DIR
GS_DEVICE=bjc250
export GS_DEVICE
MOZILLA_HOME="/opt/netscape"
export MOZILLA_HOME
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From: "Eric D. Futch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: X Problems in RH 6.0
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 01:01:21 GMT
X complains about this when I try to start it. Please send any
information you have on a possible fix.
...
(--) SVGA: XAA: Using 8 128x128 areas for pixmap caching
(--) SVGA: XAA: Caching tiles and stipples
(--) SVGA: XAA: General lines and segments
(--) SVGA: XAA: Dashed lines and segments
_FontTransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
failed to set default font path 'unix/:-1'
Fatal server error:
could not open default font 'fixed'
When reporting a problem related to a server crash, please send
the full server output, not just the last messages
Thanks
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ANN: Open Source XML Application Server Beta Released
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 00:49:04 GMT
Seattle, WA - June 22, 1999 - Planet 7 Technologies today announced the
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From: "Moez Tharani Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
linux.redhat,linux.redhat.announce,linux.redhat.misc,linux.redhat.development,linux.redhat.rpm
Subject: Re: Red Hat 6.0 Bugs
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 00:08:35 GMT
Howdy,
Here's the solution for that nasty java crash in Netscape. You'll find it at
the following URL:
http://www.redhat.com/cgi-bin/support?solution&11-990511-0082&100-926468988&14-0&15-0&25-0&3-netscape%2520crash&30-
One thing you might miss, you must be in ROOT in order to apply the fix. Lemme know
if it worx, later.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Greg Boyce wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Jun 1999, D. Michael Basinger wrote:
> >On Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:55:57 +0200, Luca Satolli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
>
> >>2. Netscape Communicator 4.51 crash on java applet and have a big bug on
> >>addressbook so tha u can't use it. I've updated it to 4.6 and the
> >>problem are still there!!
> >
> >I also get this. I glad slashdot.org does not use java.
>
> I have the same problem myself. The way I worked about this is by disabling
> Java within Netscape. That way I don't have to worry about crashing if I
> stumble on a page that uses Java. I've been told this issue is due to the
> upgrade to glibc2.1. I'm guessing it's because Netscape was compiled on
> glibc2.0.
>
> One issue I've seen though is that if I have multiple web pages open and I go
> to Dell's webpage, it consistantly crashes netscape. Even with Java disabled.
> It dosen't happen with any other page, and it dosen't happen if I only have the
> one Window open. I haven't quite figured this one out yet.
>
> >
> >>3. Somethimes E sound crash, I get this error logging out from a user
> >>and logging in into another. It happens only if the both the users use
> >>Enlightenment.
> >
> >I had something E core dump about once an hour, said screw it, and went to
> >WindowMaker. Fine now.
>
> I'm using E myself, but I don't have sound support on this machine right now
> (weird soundcard). I did figure out this issue on another machine though. esd
> runs as a particular user, and dosen't quit when you log out of E. Then when
> you log in with a new user, it cannot access the hardware in order to start esd
> for the new user. You can manually kill that process to fix this issue. Kind
> of a pain though.
>
> ---
> Gregory Boyce
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: PPP/Modem problem
Date: 23 Jun 1999 00:40:12 GMT
In <7kp9rs$dsv$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Straight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>the address on ppp0 is correct. I found that the ip address for eth0 was
>being assigned to ppp0 also. I got around this by making my name not
That is fine. More than one thing can have the same address. The only
thing is that machines out there must have one way of getting to you.
The address is for them, not for you. You must set up your routes
properly as well so the system knows which line to send packets down.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Victor Wagner)
Crossposted-To:
alt.unix,alt.unix.geeks,alt.unix.wizards,alt.unix.wizards.free,ca.unix,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: UNIX / LINUX Compatibility
Date: 22 Jun 1999 20:28:42 +0400
In comp.os.linux.development.apps Brian M. Begg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: June 21, 1999
: Hello:
: I have purchased LINUX 6.0 o.s. and I
: was curious: if I upload LINUX-compiled
: applications (CGI's) and my web-host server
: runs on UNIX, will these CGI's run? i.e.,
: is there compatibility with LINUX 6.0 and
: UNIX?
First, you have to find out which unix is used by your ISP. There is
good enough chance that really they use Linux too. In this case you can
safely transfer binaries provided that they are statically linked or
your ISP have same or newer shared librares as you. (I doubt that it is
the case with redhat 6.0. Most sysadmins would avoid glibc 2.1 for
several month at least, and certainly are not willing to upgrade working
servers without a reason. I myself write this from libc5 syste,).
Second, you have to choose language to write your CGIs on.
If your ISP provides perl interpreter (most of them do) I'll reccomend
it. No compilation required, no compatibility problems exist (except
minor version incompatibility, so you have ask tech support which
version of perl they have, and if they have one older than 5.004_04
persuade them to upgrade. If they use 5.005, I recommend you to install
same version)
Things may be little worse with other scripting languages - Tcl and
Python - your ISP probably have at least tcl, but it can well be
outdated. Current version is 8.1.1, but most distributions still include
7.x, while there was too many improvements in 8.0.x series.
But with some care you can write CGIs which would work from 7.5 to 8.1.1
With Python things seems to be simplier - either they have it, and
probably have person, who can help you with it, or they don't have it
and you scarcely could do anything with it.
But your question was about compilied languages, like C or C++. I can
say only one thing - never write CGI on those. It is much better to
invest time into learning perl and Tcl. You see - I've done this and now
have enough time to write long messages in Usenet ;-).
You might however want to compile some tools (say your own version of
Python interpreter). Real Unix guru can easily set up cross compilier on
Linux system and build program for Solaris or HP/UX on Linux system, All
what is needed is source CD which comes with your distribution.
But even with my five years of experience with Solaris, BSDI and Linux I
should feel myself very desperate before attempting to do it. I'll
better search for precompilied distribution of perl or Tcl for
particular platform (usially can be found on ftp site of OS vendor in
section of "contributed software" or something alike).
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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: using winmodems under Linux ??
Date: 22 Jun 1999 20:01:05 -0500
Ronald Haynes wrote:
>
> Hi, I am considering purchasing a new computer. Almost every system
> I consider comes with a winmodem.
> I had heard in the past that this may cause difficulties under Linux, is
> this the case?
>
Visit dejanews and you will find a lot of jokes about winmodems
and software modem. They may be usefull as paper weigh perhaps
but
Just take a drive to CompUSA and buy a Viking modem preferably
an external modem. They're cheap right now because of the low
value of the Canadian money. I got a 56k modem on the weekend
for $99, a who knows FAX modem from US Robotic at Walmart range
from $125 to $145 depending which town you go to.
And you should seriously think about SuSE as you go to CompUSA,
it's $30 and includes the commercial OSS sound software costing
normally $20.
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