Linux-Misc Digest #747, Volume #21 Fri, 10 Sep 99 04:13:14 EDT
Contents:
Re: starting KDE on Redhat 6 (Timothy)
Re: Why dows Netscape say "no DNS for mail/news" ? (Wade Segade)
Re: Red Hat 6.0 and Cablle Modem Internet Connection. ("Rob")
Re: Driver for ETHERNET cards ("Coral Sea")
Re: How to use a SCSI CD-ROM? (Mircea)
Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie (Albert Ulmer)
Re: NTFS not supported in kernel? (Michel Catudal)
Re: Driver for ETHERNET cards ("Randal W. Carpenter")
Re: More kind words from M$. (Warren Young)
Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie (Richard Steiner)
Red Hat 6 and /etc/issue (Aaron B. Hockley)
Re: Driver for ETHERNET cards ("Randal W. Carpenter")
Re: zImage (Jukka-Pekka Suominen)
Re: Cannot find map file? (Paul Kimoto)
Re: Figure Out The MS Source Code Yourself (bilge)
Kernel Panic: VFS Cannot open root ("Ricardo Wagner")
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From: Timothy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: starting KDE on Redhat 6
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 14:09:04 +1000
Mackis Tiflidis wrote:
> The easiest way is to choose options at the grafic loginpromt and choose KDE
> from there and you start in KDE automaticaly next time you choose whatever you
> whant from the list.
Doesn't seem to work for me for some reason - always starts up in gnome
(enlightenment) unless I specifically choose kde from the options menu every time
during login.
Tim
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From: Wade Segade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why dows Netscape say "no DNS for mail/news" ?
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 05:35:21 GMT
Andrew Purugganan wrote:
>
> What server is defined for Mail and news when you click on
> Netscape-Edit-Preferences-mailAndNews-servers?
> Your ISP should give you these names (you're not the ISP are you :-)
In all Window$ apps, the servers are simply "mail" and "news."
This had worked for news in Netscape under Linux until the other day.
I tried an alternate news server once mentioned by my ISP when I had
problems and that now works. Mail, however is still a problem.
I have another idea I'll try, but suggestions are welcome.
thanks
--
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From: "Rob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.m68k,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.powerpc,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Red Hat 6.0 and Cablle Modem Internet Connection.
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 15:28:26 +1000
You use pump eth0 to receive an DHCP IP address from your provider
... and crossposting sucks
Rob
John Silver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9e_B3.15912$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> My cable company is my internet provider.
> The name of my cable company is MediaOne.
> There is a problem:
> I have the IPs of the 2 DNS servers.
> But all other information is dynamic. Even Default Gateway is assigned each
> time and valid for next 24 hours or till next reset.
> Windows 98 is handle this situation.
> The "Red Hat Linux Unleashed" asks to enter the "IP Address Of My Machine"
> and the "IP Address Of My Gateway".
>
> Did somebody knows the solution?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
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From: "Coral Sea" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.m68k,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.powerpc,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Driver for ETHERNET cards
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 04:59:35 GMT
You should check out the compatible hardware list at Red Hat's Web site
first (http://www.redhat.com/corp/support/hardware/index.html). If those
cards are listed (I think they'll both be Tier II), then you have a
reasonable chance that they'll work. You might have to compile and install
new drivers though. I have found that to be a frustrating experience with
my SOHOware NIC but you might have better luck (couldn't be worse). The
most recent drivers are at http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers
I think it's simpler to use Control Panel, linuxconf, or Networking under
Gnome to configure the NIC and LAN.
John Silver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:rh_B3.15913$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hello,
> Does somebody have:
> "LINKSYS EtherFast 10/100 LAN Card" Ethernet card
> or
> "Realtek RTL8029(AS)" Ethernet card
> with Red Hat Linux 6.0?
>
> What drivers and what parameters should be installed for them?
>
> You can find this information by running "netcfg" from an xterm window.
> Then hit "Interfaces" button at the top of the window. You will see the
list
> of interfaces that installed on your computer.
> If you select an interface and click the "Edit" button, the new window
will
> pop up with the information about this interface.
> Push the "Quit" button on all windows, to be sure do not change anything.
>
> Thank you for your help.
>
>
>
>
>
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From: Mircea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to use a SCSI CD-ROM?
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 00:08:36 -0400
"DAVID L. ORMAND" wrote:
> (..)
But every time,
> it hangs up waiting for a response from the CD-ROM. The
> Busy light on the drive stays on, then after about a minute,
> it times out, linux spews what looks like interpreted SCSI
> commands to the screen, and retries. Only a reset gets
> out of this.
>
> If I disconnect the CD-ROM drive internally to the case,
> linux recognizes and mounts the Zip;(..)
Sounds like a termination problem to me. You don't clearly describe your
scsi chain, I understand the CD-ROM is internal, but your zip might be
internal or external. I will assume both are internal; then, you want
termination enabled on your controller, and on the last device on the
chain - if either end of the chain is left unterminated, or if
termination is enabled somewhere in the middle of the chain, you can get
the type of behaviour you're experiencing.
The same holds true if you have both internal and external devices (e.g.
if your zip is external); you want both ends of the chain terminated,
and you must disable termination on the adapter.
Hope this helps.
MST
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From: Albert Ulmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 05:26:05 GMT
> >>Ooh! That sounds hard! All I have to do is run dselect and hit "+"=20
next to
> >>stuff I want. It automatically takes lets me know about=20
dependencies, so I can
> >>see that it requires a 40Mb browser before I even think of=20
downloading it. The
> >>I hit install and it even downloads it for me, It then installs and =
configures
> >>and I don't even have to think. Wouldn't it be nice if M$ Windows=20
had
> >>something as easy to use as that? You would think it would,=20
especially as they
> >>say "ease of use so often".
> > What is dselect?
> > Sounds like something I would be interested in.
> Isn't it the Debian package manager?
Indeed it is!
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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: NTFS not supported in kernel?
Date: 9 Sep 1999 19:53:07 -0500
Jayan M wrote:
>
> I have seen that tom's root included ntfs write
> support at some point (1.6.2*), so it must be
> 'doable'. I have tried it out once to break an NT machine
> and change the sysadmin's password.. (the infamous
> login.scr hack)
> and it did work.. my replacement login.scr was about 4K
> versus the system one was about 32K or so, even though
> the file got replaced, the directory entry was still showing
> 32K (the real old size)
When I tried it I had to reinstall NT. The partition was completely hozed.
Read Only is safe though.
--
Tann� du plantage avec Ti-Mou?
C'est l'temps d'essayer Linux
http://www.netonecom.net/~bbcat/
We have software, food, music, news, search,
history, electronics and genealogy pages.
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From: "Randal W. Carpenter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.m68k,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.powerpc,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Driver for ETHERNET cards
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 01:11:35 -0500
John Silver wrote:
>
> Hello,
> Does somebody have:
> "LINKSYS EtherFast 10/100 LAN Card" Ethernet card
> or
> "Realtek RTL8029(AS)" Ethernet card
> with Red Hat Linux 6.0?
>
> What drivers and what parameters should be installed for them?
>
> You can find this information by running "netcfg" from an xterm window.
> Then hit "Interfaces" button at the top of the window. You will see the list
> of interfaces that installed on your computer.
> If you select an interface and click the "Edit" button, the new window will
> pop up with the information about this interface.
> Push the "Quit" button on all windows, to be sure do not change anything.
>
> Thank you for your help.
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From: Warren Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: More kind words from M$.
Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 17:03:35 -0600
Dave Newton wrote:
>
> Phil Howard wrote:
> > The notation scheme results in "sz" used for many names (null
> > terminated strings). The Hungarian language itself has many words
> > and names with "sz". I would bet this had an influence, as it would
> > have made the variable names kinda look like some form of Hungarian
> > prose to someone who did not know Hungarian, but noted all the "sz"
> > strings around.
>
> Perhaps, but I'll stick with the "It's a _s_tring, and it's an
> ASCII_Z_ string."
More on my version of this below.
> There are probably a few words that begin with
> 'n' too, but I doubt people will argue that that's why i_n_tegers
> are prefixed with it.
'n' is for "numbers". This is not to be confused with "f" for floating
point. Microsoft uses "f" to mean "flag", but I use "b" for Boolean in
that case. Microsoft uses "b" to mean byte (either raw or as a
modifier: "cb" for count of bytes), but I prefer to use "c" as in "char"
if I'm talking about an ASCII character or "n" if I'm using it as an
8-bit integer.
That brings me to another of my quibbles with Hungarian Notation as
propounded by Microsoft: they encode the size of their numeric types in
the prefix. This is evil, because that's probably the
most-often-changed type aspect in C/C++, and yet it usually never
affects the program's functioning because you usually make the number
bigger. There are several places in the Windows API that are broken or
were forced to be reworked or extended because of poor Hungarian.
About the only time the size of the number matters is in low-level
system programming, where the meaning of particular types of bit
twiddling can change depending on the size of the integer.
And now back to the "sz" thing: I prefer "pc" -- pointer to char. I
never use Pascal-style strings, so "sz" is redundant to me. And, I
prefer to use "s" for C++ style string objects.
This is an example of where Hungarian is really useful: it's common for
me to change something from being an array of characters ("ac") or a
pointer to char ("pc") to a C++ string ("s"). Each of these has a
distinct prefix because they each work differently. Thus, different
extensions are justified.
You might think that "ac" and "pc" are redundant, but there are
significant differences: "pc" usually refers to an object that exists on
the heap and must be destroyed manually, whereas "ac" is either in
static or automatic storage, so the compiler cleans it up. "ac" also
implies that you can find the number of characters being pointed to with
sizeof(), but "pc" doesn't allow this, so you have to pass around a
length parameter with it.
Other prefixes I use are "g" for global variables, "k" for constants
(but _not_ variables that are passed as const!), "e" for enumerated
types (like "n", but implies that you shouldn't assign bare integer
values to it) and "h" for handles (also like "n", but implies that the
exact value of the number should be treated as meaningless).
I think Microsoft's g_, m_ and s_ prefixes have some value, but I have
my own equivalents I like better. I've mentioned the bare "g" prefix.
For member variables, I prefer a trailing underscore. I don't yet have
a "static" prefix, because it's usually either a member variable also,
or also global. The only case I haven't got covered is a static
variable declared in a function, but I keep my functions small, so
there's little need to call attention to the fact that it doesn't go
away when the function returns.
For non-primitive types, I use suffixes. Thus, "vector<int>*
pTitleList;" It seems like this poses a contradiction but I don't find
it hard to keep straight at all. I guess it's because I see a clear
delineation in C/C++ between primitive types and structs or classes.
Yes, I consider C++'s string class a primitive but not vectors. I think
it's because strings you almost always manipulate via the language's
operators, whereas you usually call member functions on vectors to
manipulate them. I know string has member functions and vector has
operators overloaded for it, but I'm talking about the usual use case.
A secondary consideration is that I use string a lot more than vectors,
so they're "more fundamental" to my programs. It's also true that most
STL containers are interchangeable, so changing the object's type often
doesn't change how you use it.
The biggest problem with Hungarian is that most people look at
Microsoft's style, barf, and then condemn the whole idea. All that's
needed is to change the prefixes to a set _you_ like, just like you use
your own indenting and curly brace style.
--
= Warren Young: www.cyberport.com/~tangent | Yesterday it worked.
= ICBM Address: 36.8274040N, 108.0204086W, | Today it is not working.
= alt. 1714m | Windows is like that.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Steiner)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 01:37:42 -0500
Here in comp.os.linux.misc, Joseph Crowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
spake unto us, saying:
>On Mon, 6 Sep 1999, Richard Steiner wrote:
>
>> Very well stated. If people don't like the command line, then Linux is
>> *NOT* an appropriate operating system for them at this time.
>
> That's not necessarily the case, Rich. One of the nice things about a
>Linux or any other Unix system relates to the basic assumption that the
>system architecture supports a multiuser environment, not as a hack like in
>Windows, but from the getgo. In such a case, the person who administers
>the system may need to know the goodies, but the naive user need only know
>how to login and enter her or his password to do exactly the same types of
>things she or he does under Windows, but in a much more (potentially)
>reliable framework.
Oops! Sure, I agree with you ... assuming an administrator is present.
The context of the conversation seemed to be home users, however, which
generally don't have an administrator around and about to take care of
such problems (and have to install/configure things themselves).
Users in that situation (by themselves with no folks about to provide
assistance) should stick with OSes like Windows, IMhO, if they can't
deal with and/or don't want to learn about a CLI environment.
My bad. I overgeneralized. :-)
> By the way, have you done much indepth with BeOS????
Not yet, no. I've used it for some web surfing and done some dabbling
with various utilities, but most of my time is spent elsewhere. I've
been doing stuff in (*gasp*) Windows 95 recently, actually. Oops! :-)
BeOS sure providess a nice-looking (and functional) desktop, though.
--
-Rich Steiner >>>---> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>---> Bloomington, MN
OS/2 + Linux + BeOS + FreeBSD + Solaris + WinNT4 + Win95 + DOS
+ VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
"Need know star RM pic"...??!?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aaron B. Hockley)
Subject: Red Hat 6 and /etc/issue
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 06:40:54 GMT
OK, I am trying to change the message that is diplayed at the login
prompt, which is the contents of /etc/issue
I can change this file, log out, and when I go to log in the new text
is displayed.
However, when I reboot, I get the default message back again and it
has replaced my custom /etc/issue
What's going on?
Aaron
--
Aaron B. Hockley, Consultant
ABH Solutions
Professional Internet Design & Computer Consulting Services
http://www.abhsolutions.com
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From: "Randal W. Carpenter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.m68k,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.powerpc,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Driver for ETHERNET cards
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 01:11:57 -0500
Use the PCI NE2000 for pci realtek cards, or ISA NE2000 for isa ones.
The exception is the realtek 8129/39, which you dont have...the 8129/39
takes the rtl8139 driver.
Randal
John Silver wrote:
>
> Hello,
> Does somebody have:
> "LINKSYS EtherFast 10/100 LAN Card" Ethernet card
> or
> "Realtek RTL8029(AS)" Ethernet card
> with Red Hat Linux 6.0?
>
> What drivers and what parameters should be installed for them?
>
> You can find this information by running "netcfg" from an xterm window.
> Then hit "Interfaces" button at the top of the window. You will see the list
> of interfaces that installed on your computer.
> If you select an interface and click the "Edit" button, the new window will
> pop up with the information about this interface.
> Push the "Quit" button on all windows, to be sure do not change anything.
>
> Thank you for your help.
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From: Jukka-Pekka Suominen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: zImage
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 09:51:19 +0300
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Stephan wrote:
> Hi All,
> Would appreciated if anyone can tell me how to make zImage and
> first.hdimage.
Read the Kernel-HOWTO... That should answer most of your questions...
JP
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: Cannot find map file?
Date: 10 Sep 1999 03:31:12 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Colin R. Day wrote:
> In my log files, I find the message "Cannot find map file". I have
> map=/boot/map in my lilo.conf file.
That's not the map file in question. This is a message from klogd(8),
which is looking for the System.map file.
--
Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bilge)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Figure Out The MS Source Code Yourself
Date: 10 Sep 1999 07:04:56 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fred Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] blared:
>I hear you, but IMHO any prohibition on reverse engineering is horse
>manure. Reverse engineering is a natural right. All reverse
>engineering means is "figuring out how things work". You might as
>well tell me to turn off my brain and watch network TV as try to
>tell me I can't reverse engineer anything I feel like.
>
>I'd rather "forward engineer", though :-) It's usually more satisfying.
>
You havent read the digital millennium copyright act. It provides
for criminal penalties if you even interfere with the normal
functioning of the software as determined by the copyright holder.
Then things take a turn for the worse...
One could construe that applying a patch which is unapproved
by the vendor as a violation of the copyright, subject to
criminal penalties, for example. Read it, if you have not.
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From: "Ricardo Wagner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Kernel Panic: VFS Cannot open root
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 01:13:42 -0500
Yes, I think I got into trouble since I do not have a rescue disk...can
anyone help?
Dist: RH 6.0, PII 400,256 MB Just upgraded from 128.
Everything worked fine after about 6 hours of doing so many things on my
box, among them, trying to put Squid to work and a lot of Linuxconf commits,
After a hard reboot got the deadly : "VFS: Cannot open root device 30:5b
Kernel Panic:
Unable to mount root on 30:5b"
came into the scene an cannot get rid of it...
any ideas?.. help pls
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