Linux-Misc Digest #747, Volume #26 Mon, 8 Jan 01 02:13:01 EST
Contents:
email software (Harry)
Re: email software (Dances With Crows)
nfs permissions (root)
Re: ppp problem with ISP (Bill Unruh)
Re: who's rewriting /etc/fstab? (jeff)
off topic: kill netscape 'Personal Toolbar Folder' in bookmarks (John Hunter)
Re: Compiling 2.4.0 kernel w/ RH7.0 (John Hunter)
Re: Best Dual Processor board and processor (Stuffed Crust)
Re: ppp problem with ISP (Mark Addinall)
epoch time <-> human time (rj)
kppp problem
Re: How to install KDE on a RH6.2 server (E J)
.Xclients vs .xinitrc (Steve Connet)
Re: email software (John Hasler)
Re: how do i build gnu apps in /usr not in /usr/local (Scott Alfter)
Re: epoch time <-> human time (David)
Re: nfs problem.. permission denied.? (Scott Alfter)
Check for bad pointer (Igor Lavrinenko)
Re: ppp problem with ISP ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: ppp problem with ISP ("Peter T. Breuer")
booting Redhat 7.0 from floppy is very slow (Frank)
Re: The sound of silence (Michael Radocha)
Sawfish behaviour (Max Waterman)
Re: booting Redhat 7.0 from floppy is very slow (Buster Hymen)
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From: Harry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: email software
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 01:55:50 +0000
I'm certain this is going to sound terribly naive, but.....
what's the bare minimum required for sending and receiving email over
IP? The sofware is so wide and varied it's bewildering. Sendmail,
procmail, mailx, pine, elm, mutt, metamail, imapd, smail etc, plus
umpteen X-based efforts. Jesus, what's it all about?
>From what I've read so far sendmail seems to be the bee's knees, but
isn't it rather a complex server system for ISPs and the like? All I
want to do is send ascii to my ISP's smtp box and pull whatever is
waiting from their pop3 box.
The sweetest answer would be for somebody to point me to a unix port
of Forte's Agent ;o)
Harry
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: email software
Date: 8 Jan 2001 04:23:24 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 08 Jan 2001 01:55:50 +0000, Harry staggered into the Black Sun
and said:
>I'm certain this is going to sound terribly naive, but.....
>what's the bare minimum required for sending and receiving email over
>IP? The sofware is so wide and varied it's bewildering. Sendmail,
>procmail, mailx, pine, elm, mutt, metamail, imapd, smail etc, plus
>umpteen X-based efforts. Jesus, what's it all about?
Choice. Freedom is just chaos with better lighting, after all :-]
>From what I've read so far sendmail seems to be the bee's knees, but
>isn't it rather a complex server system for ISPs and the like? All I
>want to do is send ascii to my ISP's smtp box and pull whatever is
>waiting from their pop3 box.
What you want is a Mail User Agent (MUA). There are (predictably) tons
of those for Linux, among them pine, mutt, Kmail, Netscape Messenger,
and the prototype Evolution. So pick one of them and go to it.
Netscape might be the best answer if you're coming from a Windoze
worldview, since the configuration/interface is almost identical to how
it is on 'Doze. I like Pine, but then I'm partially insane.
sendmail, exim, qma!l, postfix, and the like are Mail Transfer Agents,
generally not run by Joe User. They are powerful and nifty, but not
really required if you have a POP/IMAP + SMTP box you can connect to.
If you have a permanent Net drop and multiple users who all want mail,
you may want to read up on MTAs and use one of them. Otherwise don't
bother.
>The sweetest answer would be for somebody to point me to a unix port
>of Forte's Agent ;o)
Isn't that a newsreader, not a MUA? Um, try PAN, the Pimp-Ass
Newsreader, at http://superpimp.org/ . HTH,
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com / Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
=============================/ I hit a seg fault....
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From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: nfs permissions
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 23:31:43 -0500
I have two computers connected through a crossover cable, and networking
is fine. I'm having some troubles exporting the DOS partition from
computer A to computer B via nfs. NFS is definitely working because A
exports
two other partitions (both ext2) to B, which can be mounted and accessed
fine from B.
On computer B
15) root:~> mount /dos
mount: orion:/mnt/dos failed, reason given by server: Permission denied
16) root:~> more /etc/fstab
...
orion:/home /home/orion nfs
rsize=4096,wsize=4096,hard,intr 0 0
orion:/opt /opt/orion nfs
rsize=4096,wsize=4096,hard,intr 0 0
orion:/mnt/dos /dos nfs
rsize=4096,wsize=4096,hard,intr 0 0 <== Can't mount this on B
On computer A:
106) root:/> more /etc/fstab
...
/dev/hda1 /mnt/dos vfat
defaults,user,umask=000 0 0 <== Mounts ok on A
109) root:/> more /etc/exports
/home hyperion(rw)
/opt hyperion(rw)
/mnt/dos hyperion(rw)
110) root:/> exportfs
/mnt/dos hyperion
/home hyperion
/opt hyperion
111) root:/>
Redhat 7.0 with kernel 2.4.0. This used to work under 2.2.16-22.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: ppp problem with ISP
Date: 8 Jan 2001 04:35:47 GMT
I'm sorry.Do you want help or do you just want to qvetch? We have made
suggestions and all you do is repeat what you said in your last post. I
will gladly ignore future postings if all you want to do is complain. If
you want help, then give some indication that you are listening and
trying to fix things.
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
]Clifford Kite wrote:
]>
]> Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
]>
]> > i've called 2 times. They say PAP is PAP and supplying a username and
]> > password is all that is needed. That's what I do in Windows98 and it
]> > works fine, why it won't work in linux using the same procedure is
]> > beyond me.
]>
]> Procedures for Linux PPP are different - although some distributions are
]> intent on imitating Microsoft with the likes of kppp and wvdial, both of
]> which are frontends to pppd. It boils down to "learn how to do things
]> under Linux or stick to Windows." Your choice.
]>
]i got linux on the Net before my ISP switched their system around on
]me. However, Windows is still able to connect so why can't Linux with
]pppd?
]Windows is somehow able to communicate with the dial up server to get a
]ppp link going, why can't Linux? On my end pppd is started but on the
]ISP end ppp is not. So the question is, what is windows doing that
]Linux isn't?
]why is it i can supply a username, password, and phone number with
]Windows but the same isn't true for Linux?
]This is my connection log for Windows:
]01-07-2001 18:48:20.78 - Recv: <cr><lf>CONNECT 49333 V42bis<cr><lf>
]01-07-2001 18:48:20.78 - Interpreted response: Connect
]01-07-2001 18:48:20.78 - Connection established at 49333bps.
]After i see 'connect 49333 v42bis' in the terminal window using Linux my
]ISP's menu appears and waits for me to type in a '1' to start a shell
]login or a 'q' to quit. THere is no option, anymore, to start a ppp
]link anymore. However using Windows a link is still started somehow,
]without my intervention. In order to do that obviously ppp has to be
]started on my end and at the dial up server. In Linux it's started on
]my end but it's not on my ISP's end thus causing ppp on my end to die
]b/c of it not getting any response from my ISP. So the question is what
]is making the difference between win98 and linux?
]If i know that i can maybe compensate for it in linux. W/o knowing that
]I don't know in which direction to go.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jeff)
Subject: Re: who's rewriting /etc/fstab?
Date: 8 Jan 2001 04:52:57 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 7 Jan 2001 16:54:51 GMT, Carl Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 7 Jan 2001 09:08:23 +0100 Eric en Jolanda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >to use dd for volume copy, you'd use
> >
> >dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb
> >
> >No UNIX file(point of argument), no defrag, no touching of data in anyway.
> >hdb would be an exact copy of hda, partition table included.
>
> What would happen if the drives are different? (Different
> capacities, different block sizes, etc.)
I use a full-drive dd to backup my multi partition system on a weekly basis
- but only to a drive with identical geometry. I've never tried copying to
a different type of drive but my guess is that the result would be an
unusable mess. Since dd does, AFAIK, a block-for-block copy, I'm guessing
that all boundaries (partition, partition table, etc.) would be off.
-jeff
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Subject: off topic: kill netscape 'Personal Toolbar Folder' in bookmarks
From: John Hunter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 07 Jan 2001 23:00:14 -0600
Sorry for the off topic post.... I'm hoping someone here could help me
out. Got zero hits on Deja News.
My kingdom to the first person who can tell me how to disable the
automatic regeneration of the annoying 'Personal Toolbar Folder' in
the netscape bookmarks.
Thanks,
John Hunter
Version info:
netscape v4.72
RHL 6.2
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Subject: Re: Compiling 2.4.0 kernel w/ RH7.0
From: John Hunter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 07 Jan 2001 23:11:06 -0600
I have not tried to install the 2.4 Kernel and don't know what you've
tried, but it looks to me from the links you provided that the 2.4
kernel is not properly installed.
Did you do something like 'make bzlilo'? It is not enough to compile
the kernel, you must also install it. Read the Kernel-HOWTO,
especially the part about installing the kernel.
Good luck,
John Hunter
>>>>> "Steve" == Steve Connet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Steve> Hello, I downloaded the linux kernel 2.4.0 source and am
Steve> compiling it now, as described in the README file.
Steve> In my boot directory there are links, which the README does
Steve> not mention.
Steve> System.map -> System.map-2.2.16-22 kernel.h ->
Steve> kernel.h-2.2.16 module-info -> module-info-2.2.16-22
Steve> After I compile 2.4.0 does it create a new System.map-2.4.0
Steve> for me? And a module-info-2.4.0? Where do I get these? Do
Steve> I create them? If so, how?
Steve> If not, do I just leaves those links? If they are used
Steve> won't the new vmlinuz-2.4.0 get confused with those old map
Steve> and module info?
Steve> What should I do with them? There is alos a boot.0300,
Steve> boot.b, and chain.b, map, and message files. Do I need to
Steve> do anything with those?
Steve> -- Steve Connet (steve.connet@home`NO-SPAM`.com)
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From: Stuffed Crust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Best Dual Processor board and processor
Date: 8 Jan 2001 05:17:14 GMT
In comp.os.linux.hardware [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Do you need CPU power? A WWW server isn't exactly CPU-intensive
> unless you run lots of server-side scripts, and proper SQL queries
> will keep MySQL from blocking too badly.
A better SQL server will also keep your SQL queries from blocking up too
badly...
(MySQL is terrible when it comes to larger loads, especially when there
more than a trivial amount of writes..)
But yeah, unless you have a REALLY fat network pipe, CPU is nearly
irrevelant when it comes to serving straight web pages.
- Pizza
--
Solomon Peachy pizzaATfucktheusers.org
I ain't broke, but I'm badly bent.
Patience comes to those who wait.
...It's not "Beanbag Love", it's a "Transanimate Relationship"...
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From: Mark Addinall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: ppp problem with ISP
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 14:41:55 +0930
Glitch wrote:
>
> "Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
> >
> > In comp.os.linux.misc Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > John Todd wrote:
> > >> With my ISP, I have to cue them which service I want with my
> > >> username, thus:
> > >> SERNAME: myusername%ppp
> > >> If I leave that out, I get the shell. Maybe call (phone!)
> > >> your ISP and check what they expect?
> >
> > > to get a shell you enter a '1' at their menu that appears when u dial in
> > > or 'q' for quit, how u get ppp started is beyond me. That isn't an
> >
> > It had better start being within you, because if you can't find out, your
> > computer won't. People are more intelligent than computers.
> >
> > > option anymore so that means the only way is automaticaly starting it.
> >
> > What do you mean "automatically"? Do you mean "without waiting".
> > Wvdial can do that. It's the "stupid" option. Configure it.
>
> I used it. The same thing happens no matter what program I use. PPPD is
> started but the server does not do its part and b/c of that pppd on my
> end dies. I can't help that Linux doesn't work the same way Windows does
> in this respect. I thought it would but you tell me why I can get a ppp
> link started with win98 with only providing my username and password but
> i CANT do the same in Linux. The only different is the OS. My ISP said
> with the new digital system supplying a username and password is all
> that is needed and that would fall under the protocal of PAP, however it
> doesn't work that simply in Linux, only in Windows.
> >
> > > Windows can do that, Linux can't it seems, at least not with my ISP.
> >
> > It's nothing to do with linux.
> >
> > > i've called 2 times. They say PAP is PAP and supplying a username and
> > > password is all that is needed. That's what I do in Windows98 and it
Sounds like your machine is set up in the old fashioned mode.
No flame, I'm a dinosaur and it took me a while to nut it.
Seems to work by magic.
If you are using chat scripts lose them.Select
PAP authentication in whatever dialer you use.
Make sure your pap-secrets file is set up with
your fully qualified username and password.
Then off you go :-)
Mark Addinall
> >
> > Good, so now you are sure. So do it.
> >
> > > works fine, why it won't work in linux using the same procedure is
> >
> > It works fine.
> >
>
> so why is pppd dying on my end when i use linux , but i can get a
> connection in Win98?
>
> > > beyond me. Somehow Windows is able to make the dial up server initiate
> > > a ppp link. Linux won't do that I presume. Something wont work
> >
> > It's nothing to do with linux. It's up to YOU.
> >
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From: rj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: epoch time <-> human time
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 05:30:38 GMT
Hi there,
The squid access.log file writes time in 'seconds since midnight jan 1
1970' format.
Is there a simple way to find human-readable time from "978931272 since
midnight jan 1 1970"?
Thanks in advance,
rj
(rm between j and @ for correct e-mail)
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: kppp problem
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 05:30:11 -0000
I connect to my ISP and surf the web using kppp and netscape. I typed in
the IP addresses for the primary and secondary dns. Recently my ISP
switched to dynamically allocating IP addresses from the server so my
hard-coded ones do not work anymore. I can connect fine but I cannot surf.
I get an error saying the name server cannot find the host name I type in,
the URL. Is there a way through kppp to allow for server determined DNS IP
addresses? Is there another way to do PPP that provides this
functionality? Thank you for your help. JH
--
Posted via CNET Help.com
http://www.help.com/
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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to install KDE on a RH6.2 server
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 05:32:21 GMT
Put in your RH 6.2 CD, and boot off the CD and perform an UPGRADE (don't
do an INSTALL of anykind).
Select XFree86, X packages, KDE packages and other packages that you will
need.
Bo Berglund wrote:
> Since the RH 6.2 install did not put a GUI in when I selected 'server'
> as install option I am now at a disadvantage since I am used to admin
> of the Linux machines from GUI.
> So:
> Is there a simple step-by-step instruction somewhere on how to get KDE
> installed on the server. Note that I can only get to a commadn prompt
> on this box.
>
> Bo Berglund
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: .Xclients vs .xinitrc
From: Steve Connet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 05:44:16 GMT
Hi,
What is the difference between these two files? Which one gets
executed first? What kinds of things should be in each? What is the
purpose of them?
Thanks.
--
Steve Connet ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: email software
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 04:54:40 GMT
Harry writes:
> what's the bare minimum required for sending and receiving email over IP?
telnet. You'll have to learn the essentials of the SMTP amd POP protocols,
but they're pretty simple, really.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Alfter)
Subject: Re: how do i build gnu apps in /usr not in /usr/local
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 06:07:50 -0000
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In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <8UZ56.974$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, lenny wrote:
>> I would like to know if there is a way to
>> have gnu apps built from source to be
>> installed to /usr instead of /usr/local
>
>/usr is supposed to belong to your distributor. If you do this,
>your system may not be able to be upgraded cleanly in the future.
>That is, in the future you get to update the entire system by hand,
>probably from source. Is that what you want?
He could be his own distributor. :-) I'm building a system from source...in
the past two days, I've gotten a diskless client to boot from it and I've
installed XFree86 4.0.2 to get support for the ATI Radeon that's in that
diskless client. (The "diskless client" really has two HDs in it (one SuSE
6.3, the other Win98), but AFAIK there's no XF86 4.0.x for SuSE 6.x yet.
Even if they did, there's (again AFAIK) no distro out there that's optimized
for AMD processors. I've compiled everything with -march=k6.) If you're
building your own system, you might as well throw packages into
/usr instead of /usr/local.
_/_
/ v \
(IIGS( Scott Alfter (remove Voyager's hull number for email address)
\_^_/ http://salfter.dyndns.org
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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: epoch time <-> human time
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 06:17:40 GMT
rj wrote:
>
> Hi there,
>
> The squid access.log file writes time in 'seconds since midnight jan 1
> 1970' format.
>
> Is there a simple way to find human-readable time from "978931272 since
> midnight jan 1 1970"?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> rj
>
> (rm between j and @ for correct e-mail)
978931272 / 86400 = 11330.223 Days
seconds divided by seconds in a day = days since 1970 at midnight
--
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Completed more W/U's than 98.988% of seti users. +/- 0.01%
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Alfter)
Subject: Re: nfs problem.. permission denied.?
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 06:14:44 -0000
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In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Robert Kiesling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I guess that executing "/etc/rc.d/init.d/nfs start" does not, on its
> own, start the NFS server in the std RH 7 configuration. Use "rpcinfo
> -p" to determine what RPC daemons are running, and then start
> /usr/sbin/rpc.nfsd, /usr/sbin/rpc.rstatd, /usr/sbin/rpc.mountd,
> /usr/sbin/rpc.rquotad, and /usr/sbin/rpc.rusersd, if necessary.
You should also make sure that portmap is running, as none of the rest of
the stuff you need for NFS will work without it.
You might also look for another script that starts the NFS server...with
SuSE 6.4, /sbin/init.d/nfsserver starts the NFS server, while
/sbin/init.d/nfs only mounts NFS shares from other systems.
_/_
/ v \
(IIGS( Scott Alfter (remove Voyager's hull number for email address)
\_^_/ http://salfter.dyndns.org
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Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 22:26:31 -0800
From: Igor Lavrinenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Check for bad pointer
Let's say I have a pointer of type char*. Is there any way to tell if I
am going to get SIGSEGV or SIGBUS if I try to dereference this
pointer before I actually do (dereference) it. Of course, I can catch
these signals. What if I can't simply exit() from the program but
would rather return some error from the routine that caused
(or would cause if I did not prevent it) SIGSEGV/SIGBUS.
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ppp problem with ISP
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 06:35:05 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
>> In comp.os.linux.misc Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> What do you mean "automatically"? Do you mean "without waiting".
>> Wvdial can do that. It's the "stupid" option. Configure it.
> I used it. The same thing happens no matter what program I use. PPPD is
What do you mean? We are talking about wvdial. Sow the pppd error
messages.
> started but the server does not do its part and b/c of that pppd on my
> end dies. I can't help that Linux doesn't work the same way Windows does
ppp is ppp. If the other end doesn't start ppp when you start it, and
doesn't offer a menu otion to start it up, then no other method is
available! You try it.
> in this respect. I thought it would but you tell me why I can get a ppp
> link started with win98 with only providing my username and password but
You can't. You have to do something else, such as starting ppp, or
telling the other end to start ppp. There is no magic.
> i CANT do the same in Linux. The only different is the OS. My ISP said
> with the new digital system supplying a username and password is all
> that is needed and that would fall under the protocal of PAP, however it
> doesn't work that simply in Linux, only in Windows.
It works fine. Look at the ppp debugging messages if you need more
info. There is no need to play at guessing.
>> > i've called 2 times. They say PAP is PAP and supplying a username and
>> > password is all that is needed. That's what I do in Windows98 and it
>>
>> Good, so now you are sure. So do it.
>>
>> > works fine, why it won't work in linux using the same procedure is
>>
>> It works fine.
>>
> so why is pppd dying on my end when i use linux , but i can get a
> connection in Win98?
Have a look and find out. There is no need to use your imagination.
Just take a look. Possibly you are requiring authentication, or some
other minor thing that the other end can't satisfy. Or the other
end is demanding a compression mode that you can't satisfy. You have
to observe.
You have deduced that you must start ppp yourself "without waiting",
and that whatever your config option is that is wrecking the handshake,
it's not particular to any frontend. So you know where to look, even
without seeing the debugging info!
>> It's nothing to do with linux. It's up to YOU.
Take that IN.
Peter
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ppp problem with ISP
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 06:35:06 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is my connection log for Windows:
??? What?
> 01-07-2001 18:48:20.78 - Recv: <cr><lf>CONNECT 49333 V42bis<cr><lf>
> 01-07-2001 18:48:20.78 - Interpreted response: Connect
> 01-07-2001 18:48:20.78 - Connection established at 49333bps.
This is just modem stuff. Not ppp.
> After i see 'connect 49333 v42bis' in the terminal window using Linux my
> ISP's menu appears and waits for me to type in a '1' to start a shell
Start ppp then with debug options and show the debug messages. You
may have to change syslog.conf a little to do that.
> started on my end and at the dial up server. In Linux it's started on
> my end but it's not on my ISP's end thus causing ppp on my end to die
Are you sure about that? There is no other possibility other than "you
start ppp" and "they start ppp". One of you has to start it first.
> If i know that i can maybe compensate for it in linux. W/o knowing that
> I don't know in which direction to go.
Tell your isp that you start ppp and they don't, if that is what
happens. But I don't believe it.
Peter
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From: Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: booting Redhat 7.0 from floppy is very slow
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 06:30:05 -0000
I have installed Redhat 7.0 on two machines, IBM 300GL with PII350 and
128MB, Dell XPS T450 with 196MB. They have the same problem. It is very
slow to boot from floppy. It takes more than 5 minutes to read some
information in. As soon as finishing the reading part, Redhat is working
fine.
Did anybody experience same kind of problem before? What kind of problem
it could be? I have another machine installed RH 7.0. It boots normally
from floppy.
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From: Michael Radocha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The sound of silence
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 06:30:10 -0000
Dances With Crows wrote:
>
>
> > Read The Fine Manual that came with your SuSE 6.4 distro.
**Unfortunatly I went the SuSE route this time and as you know for the
average newbie, understanding the SuSE manual is easypeasyjapaneasy and a
real joy!
> So who configured it, and why weren't you paying attention when they did
> what they did?
**A jackass installed it who likes to be alone when he works these
things out and I did call him and he told me to use sndconfig. didn't
work. But don't think I was in the proper terminal. I'll try again.
>
> Audio CDs do not have filesystems on them, so you cannot mount them.
> Use an audio CD player to play audio CDs; SuSE 6.4 shipped with lots of
> those and kscd the default KDE CD Player is a reasonable choice.
**Good to know, thanks. Although,the CD players work fine,or appear to
but no sound is heard. I did get my 8 track player to work though. Thank
GOD!
(needed a Ronco driver)
>
> >am still a Linux newbie so I am still trying to get this linux thing
down,
> >any good sites out there to explain some facts to me?
>
> See above.
** Thanks, I'll give them a go.
>
> "Sohoware"? Never heard of 'em. It's most likely a standard Ethernet
> card of some (cheap) type that got a marketing company's name slapped on
> it. > --
**Yup, El'cheepo But it works fine under win Doh!s.
I think Sohoware is made by NDC.
***Anywho, I'll keep looking and one day hopefully God willing, I'll wade
out from the shallow end of the Linux pool and join the rest of y'all in
the deep end. thanks for your help dwc. ~later
~m
I AM the keeper of the cheese!
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From: Max Waterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Sawfish behaviour
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 22:37:47 -0800
Hi,
I'm new to this group, so I hope this question isn't one that has been asked before.
I am trying to change the behaviour of the window manager. I am using Sawfish, as
installed
by RedHat 7.0 with Nov updates :
$ rpm -q sawfish
sawfish-0.30.3-10
I want the following behaviour :
1) window focus should follow the mouse without any clicking
2) when I click in a window, it should *not* alter it's placement in the window stack
I have 1), but not 2).
If, for example, I type :
$ gvim /etc/fstab
a window is opened at the front of the window stack. I can continue to type in this
window without having it change the placement in the window stack. If, however, I
click in this window (to select some text, for example), the window is popped back
to the top of the stack. I don't want this to happen. It is fine if I click on the
window border, but not in the internal of the window. This is the behaviour I am
used to with our IRIX 4Dwm window manager.
Anyone know how to get the behaviour I want?
Max.
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From: Buster Hymen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: booting Redhat 7.0 from floppy is very slow
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 22:52:39 -0800
Yeah, add more memory to your floppy drive ;)
d00d! you are booting from the floppy, it is trying to load the kernel
into memory. Floppy's drives=ancient technology. It's just a fact of
life. Confucious say: install lilo into Master Boot Record.
Mark
On Mon, 08 Jan 2001 06:30:05 -0000, Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have installed Redhat 7.0 on two machines, IBM 300GL with PII350 and
>128MB, Dell XPS T450 with 196MB. They have the same problem. It is very
>slow to boot from floppy. It takes more than 5 minutes to read some
>information in. As soon as finishing the reading part, Redhat is working
>fine.
>
>Did anybody experience same kind of problem before? What kind of problem
>it could be? I have another machine installed RH 7.0. It boots normally
>from floppy.
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